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  1. robomike

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    I have searched the web for days and can't find any solid documentation on the health hazards of PLS, ABS,Carbon,Nylon..

    From what i have read was you need to be in a well ventilated room when printing anything by PLA. If you are print any other filaments other than PLA, you should have a vent system ?

    I just wanted to know everyone thoughts on this before i install a vent system in my home.

    Thanks,
    -Mike
     
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    Overblown FUD, ventilation is good even necessary but having a venting system is not usually required. If you are running a 3D printer farm then that would be a different story.
     
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    First understand that volume is a key ingredient here. How much printing are you considering doing for a given sized space?
    The fumes off of most filament are not wildly toxic (some are certainly NOT PLEASANT, but that is a different story). Add this to the fact that there is very little volume of out-gassing from filament even if you do an entire spool...

    To keep this answer short and uncomplicated I will say that for almost all normally available filaments good air flow with normal air exchange in a reasonably sized space is more than enough. If you have folks who are extremely sensitive to things then a vent hood can't hurt, but it is not really a requirement.

    Like @WheresWaldo said ... if you have a lot of printers in a space and are melting a lot of plastic then you need to think about it. For most folks in a home environment -- nope.
     
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    I fall into that alot in a little space. Ventilation for me = window fan and keeping the windows open. you know when its to bad...trust me. we run everything from pla/abs to polycarbonate 24/7 and as long as we keep the window open and fan blowing out even the smell is small. I suppose a small factor that may be helping in my particular enviroment is the AC runs non stop (65 deg) ...maybe?

    Just be safe and if the smells are bothering you...ventilate.
     
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    Thanks, I will. to play it safe i'm going to build a plexi box with some cool features to help vent. I wont keep the vent open full blast, doing that all the heat will escape. I only need to worry about heat in the chamber when printing ABS and Carbon ? Not PLA?
     
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    If it were just me... and just one printer...dont worry about it unless it makes you feel wierd. It honestly *shouldnt* bother you. Try without before you spend a bunxh of time and money
     
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    As far as keeping heat in the chamber, that is a must with ABS, but not PLA ?
     
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    Correct pla likes cold abs likes hot....dont print in abs unless you have to. Its a nightmare
     
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    I have heard a few. What stands out with printing ABS with you?
     
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    ABS was formulated to be injection molded and used under pressure. It also has an incredible amount of shrinkage while it cools and molds are purposely created with imperfections so that the cooled parts are the correct size. At least that is the way LEGO does it and they have chemical engineers that actually develop their own blends of ABS. Despite the few people that say they never had a problem, it is not a matter of if there will be issues with an ABS print but rather when. Most common after part shrinkage is warping of parts as they cool.

    Some people only print trinkets with their printer so any issue that they might have with ABS is masked by the low precision requirements of the models they print. Besides this, ABS does emit VOCs when melted or burned. Unless you need high temperature resistance and work around the limitations then ABS is simply a poor choice, there are other filaments with nearly as high or higher tensile strength and temperature resistance than ABS, Here is a sample of a few:

    http://taulman3d.com/how-to-choose.html
     
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    Thanks for the details response, Waldo

    Hae or anyone used E-Sun PLA+ and ABS+ ?
     
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    I've used their PLA+ and it is a bit less brittle than straight PLA, I have never used their ABS. I have used their Stainless Steel, copper and Carbon filled filaments as well as PETG, nylon and Polycarbonate materials.

    And just blindly comparing ABS to PLA is a fools errand since they have completely different compositions and you have to choose filament based on intended use, not availability or coloring or because everyone says so.
     
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    Never have picked on based on color. :)
     
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    But then intended use didn't matter to me, just the color.
     
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