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Discussion in 'Printing Filament' started by Kingbob, May 27, 2014.

  1. mark tomlinson

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    Slower the better. I never used more than 30mm/s and often slower than that.
     
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    @adepino Here is what I have read, from someone at E3D on how to clean a hotend. Use the cleaner filament! He said he didn't believe it was going to work, but it was able to clean out all the little charred material left in the nozzle and heatbreak. He also said never burn the nozzle clean as you will leave residue that will be sticky to any subsequent filament you put in the printer.

    If you don't have any cleaning filament, you can use the "nylon pull" method take a short piece of nylon filament heat the extruder to about 240-250°C extrude about 3 mm of filament, shut off the heater, as soon as the temp drops to 110°C pull the filament out of the top, you will be surprised at how much junk sticks to it, even if your hotend is "clean"! Then do the procedure again, usually two or three pulls is enough to really clean out the hotend.

    Hope this information is useful.
     
  3. adepino

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    Ok great. ill have to look into that cleaning filament.

    New topic, Id been having fairly loud fan noise, so I replaced the fan thats attached to the bottom panel when you open up the printer. Its the only thing attached to the bottom panel. Apparently that isn't the one making the noise. I already tested the two on the extruder assembly by unplugging them both and the fan noise still persisted. Im not sure if its off balance or what, but Its quite loud and it didn't do it for the first month that I had the printer. So the only other fan that is left is in the power supply right? so now what?
     
  4. Mike Kelly

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    Yup the power supply fan.

    You can buy a 60x10mm fan and try and replace it if you want.
     
  5. adepino

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    You say TRY and replace it... Is it supposed to be hard? lol Ive never replaced a power supply fan.

    I started printing NinjaFlex yesterday. Ive yet to have a 100% successful print... The first 3 prints I tried were the best, and it went downhill from there... The first 3 got about 1/2 to 3/4 complete before they messed up. Now, I can't get past the base layer before it screws up. The recurring problem seems to have to do with feeding the filament. I have a tube with the hole in it which 'appears' to feed well until the brim layer nears completion, then usually the filament just stops feeding, like its losing grip. In the image below you can see the inner circle layer is nice and the outer circle is all choppy...
     

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    too fast would be my first guess.
     
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    Im running at 25mm/s now, I've tried 20mm/s and it didn't change anything. The first 3 prints that came out better were at 30+.
     
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    You do have retraction disabled, correct?
     
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    Correct
     
  10. Mike Kelly

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    It's just like replacing any other fan. There's a connector plug the the fan plugs into on the PSU circuit board and then a couple screws holding it to the enclosure.

    you can kinda see the plug in this picture:
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  11. adepino

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    Ok thanks.

    Im wondering if the issue printing NinjaFlex could possibly have anything to do with trying to print a Brim layer? every time I've tried to do it with brim its messed up, I just started another one without it and it "seems" to be doing ok again. Even so, I've yet to have a completed print when I did it without brim, part of the problem is that halfway though it would become unstuck from the bed.
     
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    Ive yet to have a successful print, it ALWAYS loses it around the halfway mark, and starts leaving those "droplets". I just don't get it because half prints great.
     
  13. mark tomlinson

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    I have never printed anything large with NinjaFlex (I have printed some whoppers with SemiFlex).
    The small stuff I have done (all less than 2"x2") as worked with the tweaks already discussed.

    Frankly, with a single extrduer, this is a specialty filament with limited uses for us.
    With Dual extrusion it becomes a lot more interesting.

    I am sure other folks have lots of great ideas for it :)
     
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    My print is only about 1" round like a rubber tube basically... I can't get 1/2" high before it starts spitting out droplets instead of a steady stream and I can't figure out why 1/2" is the magic height...Ive printed about 8-10 and its almost always the exact same spot every time. My first two tries got about 3/4" high, but after those I never got that high again.

    I remember a while back when I was using matter control, someone told me to change my steps to 2560 if i had M8 rods. Could that be an issue? I changed it in MC but I didn't see a spot to adjust it in Cura. Should the steps/mm be different for NinjaFlex?
     
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    The steps/mm are mechanical, not related to filament.
    If it is not correct in the firmware I'd suggest fixing it here.
     
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    Not to be rude, but does anyone have a picture of their working setup where they have a ruler that they can show the actual size of the tube and where the hole is?

    I managed to find a bic style pen and cleaned out the ink tube, it's a perfect fit and I want to make sure I don't screw it up.
     
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    I had a lovely picture posted.
    I didn't have a ruler on it :)
    But the tube is roughly 3 inches and the notch lines up exactly with the hobb.

    Standard PTFE will work (4mm OD, 2mm ID) or a Bic filler

    Put the tube as far into the hotend as it will go and then put the notch at the point where the hobbed section hits the tube.
     
  18. Kingrames

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    I don't know what you mean by that and have no idea how to find that out.
     
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    That's the post I quoted in my first question. I was asking specifically because I can't judge the size based on your fingers. I have no idea how big your hands are.
     

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