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  1. mark tomlinson

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    Insanity. When I went to the rapid I got to see them running the new HP one. INTENSE. Cant imagine what GE is going to do
     
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    See the picture? That thing is the size of a CNC machine and equivalent build space too.
     
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    No more subtractive manufacturing, could honestly see that replacing CNC Mills. No more wasted material, should decrease costs but I bet the price of that machine will be more than a Mill.
     
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    Maybe, a mill that size is a good ways from cheap too :)
    I imagine you are right though....this would be a lot quieter though :)
     
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    oh no :D. Subtractive manf. is much to fast. I can machine most things faster than I can print them and at a larger quantity. The only time AM overtakes SM in my environment is insanely complex geometries or "impossible to machine" parts and then your still limited by the "plastics" available to you. :D (even 3D Printed metal parts are supposedly not as strong as a machined part).

    On a side note, something I learned about 3D Printed metal parts is the surface finish is lacking so any dimensional call outs have to be machine after the fact (double the process = double the cost ) :D
     
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    At some point we will have machines that "do both" as it were...
    Ted Geisel would approve:

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    You know I feel like that image some days :D
     
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    You wouldn't believe the number of parts we ran through our CNC machine. I used to stack HDPE parts onto a pallet to the point where you could barely move it from the weight.
     
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    Really for 20K its not a bad set up if powder based is what you need. ( I personally am not a fan of the SLS style machines but they have a place and are really quite nice)
     
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    I do a lot of printing with SLS and to be honest there are quite a few models I have that can only be printed with either SLS or SLA types of printers. FDM works for a lot of stuff, most stuff actually, but there are times you need the ability to print very strong and hollow parts and SLS/SLA is the best way to go. The Fuse 1 lists for $9999.
     
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    Yes 10K but the recovery system which would be foolish to not buy is another 9 or 10K. We talked with them and decided to go Resin in stead of SLS. Within the next year ish we will have a metal printer so no real need other than high detail :D
     
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    Fab Lab here in San Diego has a donated (dead) Z Corporation Z510 and I've been trying to help the proprietor over there fix it. I'll try to stop by there Saturday and see if he'll let me play with it. The cartridge lid is wonky and it bails on a print job when it jiggles a cartridge loose.
     
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    @OutsourcedGuru that printer only uses plaster as a print medium. The parts can't be that strong. I wonder though if they can be glazed after printing to add a hard shell over the color. That would be close to how Shapeways does it's colored Sandstone prints. Resolution is pretty low on that puppy so don't expect too many fine details to be apparent in the resulting prints.
     
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    @Geof, I finally got some resin from FunToDo. I am just waiting on a couple of cables and I will start playing with the small SLA printer. I really don't care about the detail, although it is better to have and not use then to need and not have. I will mostly use it to prototype parts. Clear resin will probably be what I use the most and I am trying to decide whether FTD Industrial Blend or Monocure Rapid will be the resin of choice. Machine was upgraded and updated from crappy Sprinter firmware to Marlin and Photonics3D was scrapped for an rPi running nanoDLP.
     
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    @WheresWaldo sorry for the delay...crazy day. Wheres the pictures of that first resin print my good sir! ;) I'm excited for it!
     
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    Have you ever finished a powder part with NeverWet? That stuff's amazing.
     
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    Seem to be another Rain-X
     

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