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Solved Printing Problems Following Installing LCD XXL

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  1. Doug Gebhart

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    So, I recently purchased the SMART LCD CONTROLLER XXL from PrintedSolid.
    http://printedsolid.com/collections/accessories-and-upgrades/products/smart-lcd-controller-xxl
    I installed it in two of my R1s and it seems to control the printer fine, except once I started printing a calibration bridge, I realized that it is having troubles.
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    http://imageshack.com/a/img907/1528/DMPlJk.jpg
    It appears as if the Z-axis is getting off. It worked fine before the install and no longer worked after. Any ideas on what could be causing this?
     
  2. Mike Kelly

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    Looks like a lack of cooling to me. Is the parts fan running?
     
  3. mark tomlinson

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    Did you reload the firmware when you added the LCD?
     
  4. Doug Gebhart

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    I did not reload the firmware. I thought that the LCD XXL was enabled by default in the Robo 3D firmware.
    It does appear as if the fan is not working. I am testing a print now with the fan enabled, but I don't understand why it isn't enabled by default on the LCD Controller.
     
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    XXL shouldn't need new firmware, it is, after all, just an extra large version of the 4 line 20 character (2004 smart controller) LCD controller.
     
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    LCD has nothing to do with fan on by default, it is just a display and input device, not a controller. so it just displays current settings until YOU input something into it.
     
  7. Doug Gebhart

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    I meant in the gcode. When I ran things before the LCD, the fan was on. When I run it through the LCD, the fan is off unless I force it on through the LCD.
     
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    Check your slicer settings. Fans should be off for the first layer or two then on for materials that need it.
    You could in the software (Repetier host, Simplify3D, etc) force it on all the time. The LCD will not do that for you.
     
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  9. Doug Gebhart

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    Ok, ignore everything about the fan. That was barking up the wrong tree. The fan is working and it is still having issues. I undid the LCD controller and tried it again and had the same issues. See attached pics.
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    http://imageshack.com/a/img908/5789/W84VJ9.jpg
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    http://imageshack.com/a/img905/9578/zwzylY.jpg
    Notice how the holes are bigger than they should be. (they should be square). This makes me think its a z-axis problem. Perhaps I messed something up when I tilted the printer over to install the LCD. How might I reset the z-axis?
     
  10. Mike Kelly

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    What's your print speed?

    Try just a regular cal cube
     
  11. Doug Gebhart

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    Regular Cal cube printed perfectly fine.
     
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    Got a picture?

    and what are your print settings
     
  15. Doug Gebhart

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    Unfortunately, no. I had access to Imageshack to post pictures, but my district just blocked it. (I am a teacher.) I don't see a way to upload directly to the forum, and I can't access any other image hosting sites, so no posting pictures. Are there any problems you were looking for?

    Printer settings below. All default from matter control other than Z-offset.
    avoid_crossing_perimeters = 1
    bed_shape = rectangular
    bed_size = 228,254
    bed_temperature = 50
    bottom_clip_amount = 0
    bottom_solid_layers = 1mm
    bridge_acceleration = 0
    bridge_fan_speed = 100
    bridge_flow_ratio = 1
    bridge_speed = 60
    brim_width = 0
    build_height = 200
    cancel_gcode = G28 X0\n
    center_part_on_bed = 1
    complete_objects = 0
    connect_gcode =
    cool_extruder_lift = 0
    print_leveling_solution = 3 Point Plane
    print_leveling_method = Manual
    print_leveling_required_to_print = 0
    manual_probe_paper_width = .1
    cooling = 0
    create_raft = 0
    default_acceleration = 0
    disable_fan_first_layers = 2
    end_gcode = M104 S0 ; turn off temperature\nG1 X10 Y200\nM84 ; disable motors
    external_perimeter_speed = 50
    external_perimeters_first = 0
    extra_perimeters = 1
    extruder_clearance_height = 20
    extruder_clearance_radius = 20
    extruder_count = 1
    extruder_offset = 0x0
    extruder_wipe_temperature = 0
    extruders_share_temperature = 0
    extrusion_axis = E
    extrusion_multiplier = 1
    extrusion_width = 0
    fan_always_on = 1
    fan_below_layer_time = 60
    filament_diameter = 1.75
    fill_angle = 45
    fill_density = 0.25
    fill_pattern = rectilinear
    first_layer_acceleration = 0
    first_layer_bed_temperature = 55
    first_layer_extrusion_width = 1
    first_layer_height = 0.3
    first_layer_speed = 30%
    first_layer_temperature = 210
    g0 = 0
    gap_fill_speed = 20
    gcode_arcs = 0
    gcode_comments = 0
    gcode_flavor = reprap
    gcode_output_type = REPRAP
    has_fan = 1
    has_hardware_leveling = 1
    has_heated_bed = 1
    has_power_control = 0
    has_sd_card_reader = 1
    show_reset_connection = 0
    heat_extruder_before_homing = 0
    infill_acceleration = 0
    infill_every_layers = 1
    infill_extruder = 1
    infill_extrusion_width = 0
    infill_first = 0
    infill_only_where_needed = 0
    infill_overlap_perimeter = .06
    infill_speed = 60
    infill_type = GRID
    layer_gcode =
    layer_height = 0.2
    max_fan_speed = 100
    min_extrusion_before_retract = 0
    min_fan_speed = 100
    min_print_speed = 10
    min_skirt_length = 5
    notes =
    nozzle_diameter = 0.4
    only_retract_when_crossing_perimeters = 0
    ooze_prevention = 0
    output_filename_format = [input_filename_base].gcode
    overhangs = 1
    pause_gcode =
    perimeter_acceleration = 0
    perimeter_extruder = 1
    perimeter_extrusion_width = 0
    perimeter_speed = 60
    perimeters = 2
    post_process =
    print_center = 114,127
    raft_air_gap = .2
    raft_extruder = 0
    raft_extra_distance_around_part = 5
    raft_fan_speed_percent = 100
    raft_layers = 0
    raft_print_speed = 100%
    bed_remove_part_temperature = 0
    randomize_start = 1
    repair_outlines_extensive_stitching = 0
    repair_outlines_keep_open = 0
    resolution = 0
    resume_gcode =
    retract_before_travel = 20
    retract_layer_change = 1
    retract_length = 3
    retract_length_tool_change = 10
    retract_lift = .5
    retract_restart_extra = 0
    retract_restart_extra_toolchange = 0
    retract_speed = 30
    skirt_distance = 6
    skirt_height = 1
    skirts = 2
    slowdown_below_layer_time = 10
    small_perimeter_speed = 35
    solid_fill_pattern = rectilinear
    solid_infill_below_area = 70
    solid_infill_every_layers = 0
    solid_infill_extrusion_width = 0
    solid_infill_speed = 60
    solid_shell = 0
    spiral_vase = 0
    standby_temperature_delta = -5
    start_gcode = G28 X0 Y0 Z0 ; home all axes\nG1 Z5 F5000 ; lift nozzle\nM109 S210 ; set the extruder temp and wait\nG28 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Home Z again in case there was filament on nozzle\nG29 ; probe the bed
    start_perimeters_at_concave_points = 0
    start_perimeters_at_non_overhang = 0
    support_material = 1
    support_material_angle = 0
    support_material_create_internal_support = 0
    support_material_enforce_layers = 0
    support_material_extruder = 1
    support_material_extrusion_width = 0
    support_material_infill_angle = 45
    support_material_interface_extruder = 1
    support_material_interface_layers = 3
    support_material_interface_spacing = 0
    support_material_pattern = rectilinear
    support_material_spacing = 3
    support_material_speed = 60
    support_material_threshold = 40
    support_material_xy_distance = 0.7
    support_material_z_distance = 0.15
    support_material_z_gap_layers = 1
    support_type = LINES
    temperature = 210
    thin_walls = 1
    threads = 2
    toolchange_gcode =
    top_infill_extrusion_width = 0
    top_solid_infill_speed = 50
    top_solid_layers = 1mm
    travel_speed = 150
    use_firmware_retraction = 0
    use_relative_e_distances = 0
    vibration_limit = 0
    wipe = 0
    wipe_shield_distance = 0
    wipe_tower_size = 0
    z_can_be_negative = 0
    z_offset = 0.5
     
  16. Mike Kelly

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    Do you not see upload a file next to post reply?
     
  17. Doug Gebhart

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    20151208_122054.jpg 20151208_145829.jpg 20151208_145837.jpg 20151208_145841.jpg
    Wow, I can't believe I missed that. Here it is.
     
  18. Mike Kelly

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    Ok it does look like something is up with the Z axis on that. Do you have an R1 plus?

    Measure the height of each step, should be 5mm The top looks a little distorted from lack of cooling as well
     
  19. Doug Gebhart

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    Yes I do have R1s. I left the print at school, so when I get there tomorrow I will check the height.
     
  20. mark tomlinson

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    The R1 and R1+ potentially have different firmware which is probably what Mike is trying to sort out.
     

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