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Unanswered Robo R1+ Issues (Leaning + LCD Contoller)

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  1. WheresWaldo

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    You are using S3D correct?
    If so then the line to set temperature is redundant, because in the temperature tab you check the box that says "Wait for temperature controller to stabilize before beginning build". Your script runs after the temp commands that S3D inserts and before the actual print So when you used the line
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    M109 S[temperature] ; set the extruder temp and wait
    Since S3D has no idea what [temperature] is it resets to 0°. If you insist on putting your own temperature control in the startup script you must use the variable [extruder0_temperature] or else S3D has no clue. Although completely unnecessary the actual line should read
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    M109 S[extruder0_temperature] ; set the extruder temp and wait
     
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    Wow we all answered this at the same time.
     
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    right! almost creepy :D
     
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  5. Hobbit

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    Thanks everyone! I adjusted my starting script to this:

    G28 X0 Y0 Z0 ; home all axes
    G1 Z5 F5000 ; lift nozzle
    G28 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Home Z again in case there was filament on nozzle
    M565 Z-1.0; set the offset for auto-leveling mechanism
    G29 ; probe the bed
    M201 X1000 Y1000; // max accel print

    I think i was trying to set the z offset on the tab before 'G-Code' where is says 'Global G-Code Offset', I assume that this is incorrect as well?

    Is there anything else I'm missing before I try again?
     
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    yes, that Z-1.0 is a starting point. If your to far from the bed use a smaller number Z-.9 for example. and tweak until you get the perfect first layer your after :D

    test print :D
     
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    Again different slicers have different ways to accomplish this, but the M565 is a standard way and easy to see if you look at the GCode. I personally prefer it. It is not slicer dependent.
     
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    Just a small point, there is no longer any need to issue a G28 followed by all the axes, unless you want to home 2 or less.
    Code:
    G28 X0 Y0 Z0
    can be replaced with simply
    Code:
    G28
     
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  9. Hobbit

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    Thanks! I'm setting up a test print right now. I'll let everyone know how it goes.
     
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    pictures too please, perferably of that first layer :D
     
  11. Hobbit

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    Ok I adjusted the off set to -.8 and printed a test model. I think it's still to far away from the bed? I adjusted the z to -.6 and am running another test now.
     

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    yep that was a good call. Keep testing to get that perfect first layer :D
     
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    One of mine uses -0.9 and the other -0.6

    Yours will be whatever it is for a perfect first layer :)
     
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    Thanks guys! here is -.6. Should I go lower still?
     

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    Awesome thank you for that. I'm doing another now and will report back.
    UPDATE: -.5 seems to be the winner for me!

    Something I noticed though was that was when homing the axis's, the x and y are normal but then for z the nozzle now goes to the center of the bed instead of the corner where the x and y 0 was? Is there a setting I need to change to make the z home back at the corner again?
     
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    No let it home in the middle. Its normal
     
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    Hey guys, I was able to print the first part of my LCD case without an issue it seems. I then printed a taller barrel piece and I can see about 1mm shift over about 5mm of height only along the y-axis. I'm going to print a taller piece overnight to see if the issue continues. I did the 25 point mesh level so I'm not sure what to do next.
     
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    25 point mesh level? A layer shift is more often than not a loose component or something getting cought. If it happens on the y, lift the bed and move the rails back and forth see if anything is binding (like the wiring). If not check belt tension and make sure the two set screws on the timing pulley are tight.
     
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    Also double check that the undersized fan on the bottom of your Robo is running 100% of the time while on. Overheating the arduino can cause 'missed' steps that can manifest itself in various defects.

    And @Geof I also use a 25 point MESH I started with 16 but have a warp in one particular area of my glass bed that was missed in 16 points. But that will all change soon as Midwest Steel and Aluminum has shipped my new aluminum plate.
     

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