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Discussion in 'Archive' started by Harry, Mar 4, 2015.

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    Aug 7, 2017 at 6:25 AM - Bill Monroe: I heard there's a topical cream for that...
    Aug 7, 2017 at 6:54 AM - Toro1966: Haha. hey Bill.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 6:57 AM - Toro1966: In my case, the only medication is a large 3d printer!
    Aug 7, 2017 at 8:12 AM - Geof: Hey guys. Good morning
    Aug 7, 2017 at 8:42 AM - daniel871: @Toro1966 - Save up for a Stratasys or go home. :p
    Aug 7, 2017 at 8:43 AM - Toro1966: Lol - I would need to mortgage my home!
    Aug 7, 2017 at 8:54 AM - daniel871: Yeah, well, wouldn't it be worth it for one of these: http://www.stratasys.com/3d-printers/j750
    Aug 7, 2017 at 8:57 AM - daniel871: Or maybe the Objet1000-Plus: http://www.stratasys.com/3d-printers/objet1000-plus
    Aug 7, 2017 at 8:57 AM - daniel871: 1000mm x 800mm x 500mm build space :drool:
    Aug 7, 2017 at 8:58 AM - daniel871: Also, up to 14 different materials in a single print in that last one.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 8:58 AM - daniel871: Which would most likely be multiple colors in three different materials and then support materials, but still.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 AM - Geof: what kills me about them is the sheer price per print. We would have gone that route had it been at least close to competetive. Its in whole other league lol
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:16 AM - daniel871: Well yeah, but they cater to companies that make the kind of money that would make the phrase "I'd kill for that kind of salary" realistic.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:17 AM - Geof: lol thats what we said to the salesmen when they were here pitching their machines
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:18 AM - Geof: "we have alot of clients that make things every day, our service plan is unbeatable, but yes most of these companies are in house producing prototypes"
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:18 AM - Geof: :D
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:18 AM - Geof: (dont get me wrong, I'd stop what I'm doing and join up on that payroll right now lol.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:46 AM - daniel871: Yeah, I've almost bought older Stratasys FDM 2000 machines on a couple different occasions just for the opportunity to play with them and compare them to the machines I use now. Had one on ebay the other week that only wanted $500 for it, came with the original software CD, manual, and a pallet of cartridges to run it.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:46 AM - daniel871: I keep having to remind myself that a machine like that would probably get ruined in shipping.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:47 AM - daniel871: Also I don't really have the room for one any more.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:53 AM - Geof: We have thought about it as well. I've seen a few of those deals and just recently passed on one that was basically free (had to buy the material they had though).
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:53 AM - Geof: Alot of the issue I had was....when the material "they have" is gone...I have to buy from Stratasys anyway so back up that creek lol. Would be fun to play with though for sure.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:53 AM - Geof: Seen quite a few and they are pretty impressive.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:54 AM - Toro1966: Yep - I'll have to stick to something in this stratosphere - price wise :)
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:54 AM - Toro1966: The new CR-10S should be out in a couple of weeks. Dual z lead screws, filament sensor, etc.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:54 AM - Toro1966: New board as well.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:54 AM - Toro1966: It's a little pricier, but it is all relative I guess.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:57 AM - daniel871: The older Stratasys cartridges are easily hacked with an Arduino flasher, Geof.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:58 AM - daniel871: Also, holy LOL Fuck these guys: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROBO-3D-R1-Plus-10x9x8-Inch-ABS-PLA-3D-Printer-White-NEW/142356205477
    Aug 7, 2017 at 9:58 AM - daniel871: Scrolling through 3d printer listings and saw that.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 10:03 AM - Toro1966: Can't believe they sold two already!
    Aug 7, 2017 at 10:04 AM - daniel871: That's not the only ridiculously priced thing they listed.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 10:05 AM - daniel871: https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=scientific1977&_sop=16
    Aug 7, 2017 at 10:05 AM - daniel871: I bet it's something like "You need to sell these things and get them out of the house!" "OK, I'm listing them on ebay."
    Aug 7, 2017 at 10:05 AM - Toro1966: lol
    Aug 7, 2017 at 10:06 AM - daniel871: A $10k multimeter.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 10:06 AM - daniel871: http://www.ebay.com/itm/KEYSIGHT-TE...521199?hash=item21261f872f:g:IqAAAOSw42JZDMMS
    Aug 7, 2017 at 10:06 AM - Toro1966: sold my other R1+ last week for $500. It had E3DV6, LEDs, and dual fans as well.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 10:06 AM - Toro1966: Only sold it because we have two others in the house and I am getting a third (bigger).
    Aug 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM - Geof: thats a good deal on the Robo you got Toro :D
    Aug 7, 2017 at 10:34 AM - OutsourcedGuru: I'm loving the $10K heatshrink tubing
    Aug 7, 2017 at 11:40 AM - daniel871: That's nothing, check out this $10k bottle of loctite: http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOCTITE-242...777247?hash=item21142347df:g:fFgAAOSw-YVXnniQ
    Aug 7, 2017 at 12:01 PM - Geof: got 3 review too ;)
    Aug 7, 2017 at 12:01 PM - Geof: 466/month dan. You could own it.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 12:06 PM - daniel871: I could have an Ultimaker 3 printer farm for that.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 12:14 PM - Geof: I think we had a difference of opinion on what makes a farm ;) lol but you could have a few for sure.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 12:19 PM - daniel871: Okay fine, Monoprice Maker Select V2.1 farm.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 12:34 PM - daniel871: Maybe the "Ultimate" they sell if 20 printers is enough to be a farm instead of 33.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 12:41 PM - Geof: Lol !!!!
    Aug 7, 2017 at 1:16 PM - daniel871: Hey, it's been done: https://web.wpi.edu/Pubs/E-project/Available/E-project-042617-120614/unrestricted/FinalReport.pdf
    Aug 7, 2017 at 1:27 PM - daniel871: They had issues with the robot arm frying everything that fed the controlling server they were using, but the printers themselves did fine.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 1:39 PM - OutsourcedGuru: They forgot the part where they need a facial-recognition robot to detect when your part looks like the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 1:43 PM - daniel871: Never had that issue on mine.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 1:44 PM - daniel871: I've had shifts and jams, but no balls of spaghetti.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 1:45 PM - Geof: Ditto no spaghetti balls. Failed prints but like that
    Aug 7, 2017 at 1:47 PM - OutsourcedGuru: https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/4pd91e/when_your_3d_printer_gives_you_spaghetti/
    Aug 7, 2017 at 1:49 PM - daniel871: Ugh, Reddit.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 2:14 PM - Ryan TeGantvoort: i must say that Robot integrated 3D printer farm is pretty sweet.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 2:22 PM - daniel871: Yeah, their conclusion that you need to use a newer arm than they used to run it properly basically indicated that the only reason their process didn't work well was because they chose the wrong robotic arm to do it.
    Aug 7, 2017 at 2:36 PM - daniel871: I haven't read previous reports, but the 3dhubs report here doesn't even mention any Robo printers being used in hubs. https://www.3dhubs.com/s3fs-public/3d-printing-trends-Q3-2017.pdf
    Aug 7, 2017 at 2:46 PM - daniel871: I know there at least used to be a couple hubs with them, but did none of them complete enough prints to show up in the stats?
    Aug 7, 2017 at 4:18 PM - WheresWaldo: I have some sample output from the HP ProJet 3500, it is a very nice printer.
     
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    Aug 7, 2017 11:44 PM - daniel871: Did HP get a rebranding license? I thought the ProJet line was 3DSystems (Stratasys competitor).
    Aug 8, 2017 5:25 AM - Geof: no that I'm aware of but both are investors in the HP additive line if I remember what they were saying at the Rapid event.
    Aug 8, 2017 5:46 AM - daniel871: It may just be an issue of nobody trademarking the name and two companies using them.
    Aug 8, 2017 5:46 AM - daniel871: ProJet would be an HP-like name to use since they like InkJet and LaserJet so much.
    Aug 8, 2017 6:03 AM - WheresWaldo: Sorry HP is called Jet Fusion, I think the output is better than the ProJet which Dan is correct its Stratsys.
    Aug 8, 2017 6:04 AM - WheresWaldo: The Jet Fusion has a much better surface finish right from the printer than any of the stratasys printers.
    Aug 8, 2017 6:07 AM - Geof: from what I saw of it it was pretty darn impressive.
    Aug 8, 2017 6:08 AM - Geof: (can you imagine they wouldn't say what one cost ;) ) lol. It was also the first time they exhibited the machine.
    Aug 8, 2017 6:09 AM - WheresWaldo: There are a few services already using it. Shapeways is still piloting it after a year or so, I wish they would just move to it now.
    Aug 8, 2017 6:11 AM - Geof: wouldn't suprise me if they did. HP didn't seem very happy with what they had, said they were going to continue to improve and implement those changes to existing in the field machines which I thought was very cool
    Aug 8, 2017 6:15 AM - daniel871: "Starting from $200,000" from a Google search with article summaries.
    Aug 8, 2017 6:15 AM - daniel871: Welp.
    Aug 8, 2017 6:19 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan I fear you and I won't be rushing out and buying one (or many).
    Aug 8, 2017 6:23 AM - Geof: lol :D Waldo your getting there! One day!
    Aug 8, 2017 6:23 AM - Geof: I wont be running out and getting one at 200K either. Cant ROI that kind of money when the majority of people see the finish of low quality vs high quality and cost of each they tend to go with low quality. Lots of large nozzle printing or .3 layers on a .5 nozzle lol
    Aug 8, 2017 6:59 AM - daniel871: .6 layers on a .8 nozzle on a well tuned printer don't look too bad either.
    Aug 8, 2017 7:00 AM - daniel871: About like .3 on a .4 nozzle on a similarly tuned printer, but with the layer lines spaced further apart.
    Aug 8, 2017 7:01 AM - daniel871: (mandatory usage of the "variable layer height" option for objects that have rounded tops though)
    Aug 8, 2017 7:02 AM - daniel871: Finding that balance of "slower feed rate, but still faster than a smaller nozzle running at higher feed rate" can be tricky though.
    Aug 8, 2017 7:33 AM - Geof: most clients perfer the .4 or .5 nozzle with .3 layer price bracket/looks trade. There are a few that I throw a volcano on and let em eat but its .75 layers, 1.0 nozzle :D
    Aug 8, 2017 7:33 AM - Geof: big stuff....
    Aug 8, 2017 8:00 AM - daniel871: Oh my god, some moron just posted in one of the 3d printing groups I'm in about using a Monoprice FDM machine to print models designed for use in dental applications.
    Aug 8, 2017 8:01 AM - daniel871: I replied with "I look forward to reading about you being sued for doing this with not-body-safe/toxic materials. Also LOL at thinking you can use an FDM machine to get the finishes required for dental work".
    Aug 8, 2017 8:12 AM - Toro1966: Morning all.
    Aug 8, 2017 8:19 AM - Toro1966: Some of my latest prints. Not too shabby, Some room for improvement, but overall not bad.
    Aug 8, 2017 8:20 AM - Toro1966: [​IMG]Untitled by acevedor2
    Aug 8, 2017 8:20 AM - Toro1966: [​IMG]Untitled by acevedor2, on Flickr
    Aug 8, 2017 8:20 AM - Toro1966: [​IMG]Untitled by acevedor2, on Flickr
    Aug 8, 2017 8:21 AM - Toro1966: [​IMG]Untitled by acevedor2, on Flickr
    Aug 8, 2017 8:52 AM - Toro1966: [​IMG]Untitled by acevedor2, on Flickr
    Aug 8, 2017 8:52 AM - Toro1966: [​IMG]Untitled by acevedor2, on Flickr
    Aug 8, 2017 10:01 AM - Geof: looks good Toro.
    Aug 8, 2017 10:01 AM - Geof: Daniel- some people (dentists) use FDM as a "model" to get a better idea of what their goign to do, test fittings etc. some just props for their office.
    Aug 8, 2017 10:01 AM - Geof: not all parts are used as "implants"
    Aug 8, 2017 10:01 AM - Geof: but yes agreed if he is selling stuff as an implant that is a issue
    Aug 8, 2017 10:44 AM - Toro1966: Going to try smoothing with XTC. The Tudor box is fine and was printed with .1 The stormtrooper looks pretty nice but I want it a little smoother. printed it at .2
    Aug 8, 2017 10:52 AM - Geof: XTC 3d works well. I use Krylon triple thick clear coat as well. Both works great.
    Aug 8, 2017 10:52 AM - Geof: kylon is cheaper lol
    Aug 8, 2017 10:56 AM - Toro1966: So the krylon just fills in the texture like fill primer does?
    Aug 8, 2017 10:57 AM - Toro1966: Not sure I am going to get much more better quality prints natively out of this printer. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Thoughts?
    Aug 8, 2017 12:46 PM - Geof: if you need smoother its either xtc 3d, or sand paper and filler primer :D
    Aug 8, 2017 12:46 PM - Geof: or the krylon if it works for you like it does for me.
    Aug 8, 2017 3:15 PM - OutsourcedGuru: @Toro1966 For some reason, trying to click-through on the image is asking for Yahoo credentials. (weird)
     
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    Aug 9, 2017 8:52 AM - Toro1966: Morning all.
    Aug 9, 2017 9:00 AM - Toro1966: Really thinking about getting a CR10S to play around with. For about $600 it's a fairly low investment. Was considerign waiting until black friday but not sure I want to :) Someone talk me out of it - Lol!
    Aug 9, 2017 9:02 AM - daniel871: Don't do it, Toro. Wait until Black Friday when it's on sale for even less.
    Aug 9, 2017 9:03 AM - daniel871: Also where are you seeing a CR-10 for $600?
    Aug 9, 2017 9:03 AM - daniel871: They should be $450 MAX
    Aug 9, 2017 9:09 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan I am not seeing any at $450, but have found a few at $500 shipped from China.
    Aug 9, 2017 9:10 AM - Geof: The price has jumped up again because people are hee hawing about it.
    Aug 9, 2017 9:10 AM - WheresWaldo: Wait, Banggood has them in their US warehouse for $420 + $8 shipping.
    Aug 9, 2017 9:12 AM - WheresWaldo: Banggood is pre-order only from the US and $500 from China w/free shipping available now.
    Aug 9, 2017 9:14 AM - WheresWaldo: Aliexpress search is about $100 more, so $600 like Toro says.
    Aug 9, 2017 9:17 AM - Geof: I think he is talking about the version with 2 leadscrews (not out yet?) and a few other upgrades- possibly the larger machine?
    Aug 9, 2017 9:21 AM - WheresWaldo: I found the dual lead screw on Ali-Express for $629 shipped.
    Aug 9, 2017 9:22 AM - WheresWaldo: One of those with a cheap Volcano clone, what do you think?
    Aug 9, 2017 9:23 AM - WheresWaldo: a 1 mm nozzle and .7-.8 mm layer heights.
    Aug 9, 2017 9:23 AM - WheresWaldo: Heck a 1.2 mm nozzle and 1 mm layer heights.
    Aug 9, 2017 9:32 AM - Geof: lol right! :D. My CR10 is likely going titan/e3d/volcano soon. Currently I switch between the Gmax volcano and standard. Going to leave it standard I think :D
    Aug 9, 2017 10:33 AM - Toro1966: Yep - the CR-10S. Has dual lead schrews and filament runout sensor. as well as an improved MB.
    Aug 9, 2017 10:34 AM - Toro1966: You can still get the standard CR-10 for about 420 shipped. Reason I made the comment about black Friday is that the price is already pretty low on those, not sure how much lower they'll go.
    Aug 9, 2017 10:36 AM - Toro1966: I've also considered the larger machine 400x400x400 or even the 500x500
    Aug 9, 2017 10:36 AM - Toro1966: Now one reason for waiting for Black Fridya would be to get a Gmax for cheaper :)
    Aug 9, 2017 10:46 AM - Geof: I doubt gcreate will do that. I waited it out for black friday when I bought mine...no deals.
    Aug 9, 2017 10:46 AM - Geof: :(
    Aug 9, 2017 10:46 AM - Geof: ol
    Aug 9, 2017 10:47 AM - daniel871: Yeah, gcreate never has a sale worth waiting for.
    Aug 9, 2017 10:49 AM - Toro1966: Unfortunate. Just not sure I can pas up the CR-10's price for the relatively few benefits of the GMAX.
    Aug 9, 2017 10:49 AM - Toro1966: Lots of upgrades already for the Cr-10
    Aug 9, 2017 10:49 AM - daniel871: To be fair, the GMAX will be a more rigid machine by the look of it.
    Aug 9, 2017 10:50 AM - daniel871: Probably didn't skimp on the control system either, for the price they put on it.
    Aug 9, 2017 10:50 AM - Toro1966: All that's missing in my opinion is a BLtouch or similar leveling system. You can't hook it up to the standard CR-10, but the CR-10S should be doable.
    Aug 9, 2017 10:51 AM - Toro1966: Completely agree Daniel - but 600vs 3k, I am thinking might be worht the shot.
    Aug 9, 2017 10:51 AM - daniel871: Yeah I'm rethinking that after looking at the specifications on the Gmax.
    Aug 9, 2017 10:52 AM - daniel871: I think the majority of that cost is in the heated bed and it being a printer assembled in the US.
    Aug 9, 2017 10:52 AM - Toro1966: I have been looking non-stop now for a couple of weeks. I think the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger is we're so close to Black Friday of course I could end up just buying another one if they are that cheap!
    Aug 9, 2017 10:52 AM - daniel871: Also shipped fully assembled rather than as a partially disassembled machine.
    Aug 9, 2017 10:53 AM - Toro1966: I definitely know the heated bed is better and I would probably switch it out in the CR-10 for a similar Keenovo.
    Aug 9, 2017 10:53 AM - daniel871: Did you drop $150 on that Monoprice toy delta?
    Aug 9, 2017 10:54 AM - Toro1966: Nope - I am actually now down to 2 Robos and that is it. I really liked my Monoprice, but the build size caused me to always go to my Robos. i will say - and I will probably get blasted for it - that the Monoprice delivered consistently better quality than the Robos....
    Aug 9, 2017 10:54 AM - Ryan TeGantvoort: close????? its like 3 months away
    Aug 9, 2017 10:54 AM - daniel871: No argument from me there. My Monoprice is still going strong.
    Aug 9, 2017 10:55 AM - daniel871: Wait, which one did you get? The one I have was only about 20mm short of the Robo's build space in the directions that matter.
    Aug 9, 2017 10:56 AM - daniel871: You got the Mini?
    Aug 9, 2017 12:31 PM - Toro1966: Nope - got the v3 or whatever it was. Can't remember. I liked it, but mine in particular had a number of drawbacks. bed size, glithcy software in the LCD, hard to move knobs, and extremely loud fan to name a few. That said, it was still a nice prinitng machine, but my robos were easier - and I am laxy :)
    Aug 9, 2017 12:33 PM - daniel871: There is no "v3" by Monoprice.
    Aug 9, 2017 12:33 PM - daniel871: There is the "Mini v2", "Maker V2.1", "Maker Plus" and "Maker Ultimate".
    Aug 9, 2017 12:34 PM - daniel871: The "Mini V1" had loud fans and a knob that was hard to use, supposedly fixed in the "Mini V2"
    Aug 9, 2017 12:35 PM - daniel871: The "Maker V2.1" and on up all had 200mm x 200mm x 180mm build areas while the "Mini" variants have 120mm x 120mm x 120mm build area.
    Aug 9, 2017 12:47 PM - Toro1966: Then it was the V2. It was the larger one. Bought it off Amazon.
    Aug 9, 2017 12:48 PM - Toro1966: Yep - just checked. Maker Select V2
    Aug 9, 2017 1:22 PM - WheresWaldo: Just pulled this off my printer [​IMG]
    Aug 9, 2017 1:22 PM - WheresWaldo: Still green, but all excess resin is cleaned off.
    Aug 9, 2017 1:25 PM - Toro1966: Very nice Waldo! Was looking at the Form 2 but couldn't justify the conumables price tag. The printer I could live with but between the resin, trays, alcohol, etc - it would not have made sense for me since I am just a hobbyist. Looks grea t though!
    Aug 9, 2017 1:32 PM - WheresWaldo: That is all I am, just a hobbyist too. Not all of us can be @Geof.
    Aug 9, 2017 1:34 PM - WheresWaldo: One more showing the supports [​IMG]
    Aug 9, 2017 1:35 PM - WheresWaldo: It is sitting under the UV lamps right now.
    Aug 9, 2017 1:40 PM - Toro1966: Lol. Loooks like the uspports cam eoff easily enough.
    Aug 9, 2017 1:43 PM - WheresWaldo: Yep, just need a good pair of small flush cutters and a bit of sanding and you can't even tell where the supports were.
    Aug 9, 2017 2:15 PM - daniel871: The only thing about the Form2 is that they at least have everything together where you can get an idea of the costs involved with their markup for figuring out how to make it as close to "plug and play" as it gets.
    Aug 9, 2017 2:16 PM - daniel871: The Wanhao D7 though, you're kind of up a creek if you don't know what you're doing with the consumable films/vats/etc.
    Aug 9, 2017 2:16 PM - daniel871: I'd bet Waldo spent a *lot* of time reading up on what he needs to get to the point he's at now.
    Aug 9, 2017 2:32 PM - Toro1966: Lo.l.
    Aug 9, 2017 2:43 PM - WheresWaldo: Yep, did a lot of research. I still want a Form2 simply because it is as close to plug and play as you can get with UV Resin. Right now my workflow involves Fusion 360, then at least two other programs to plate the models and build supports then it still has to be sliced. It is just a bit too much work for the average users. And sadly, it is a bit too much for the average Wanhao D7 user too.
    Aug 9, 2017 3:02 PM - daniel871: I've pretty much decided I'm not going into SLA until I can afford the Form2 and all the accessories and a few liters of resin.
    Aug 9, 2017 3:02 PM - daniel871: Or until a competitor comes out with something close to it.
    Aug 9, 2017 3:02 PM - Toro1966: My problem is how little it lasts.
    Aug 9, 2017 3:03 PM - daniel871: This looks like it might be a close competitor, but only if their "marked down" price stays where it is now and they actually start shipping units: https://uniz3d.com/products.html/
    Aug 9, 2017 3:04 PM - Toro1966: For example I have been told that a liter of resin is about the same as a spool of filament. But one is $20 and one is $150! Also, the trays have to be replaced every 2-3liters of resin and they are $59. Finally, you can only use one tray per resin type/color so that's another expense. Add that to the alcohol you have to buy and replace and the UV curing system and it is just too expensive for my blood.
    Aug 9, 2017 3:05 PM - daniel871: That comparison was probably about the typical amount of wasted prints in FDM vs. SLA.
    Aug 9, 2017 3:06 PM - daniel871: (For amateurs)
    Aug 9, 2017 3:06 PM - daniel871: Also assuming you properly hollow your models to only use as much resin as you need if it's a display piece, etc.
    Aug 9, 2017 3:35 PM - WheresWaldo: That Slash printer is overpriced for an LCD based printer. It is just a Wanhao D7 in a prettier case. Yes the Form 2 is expensive to operate but they are leap years ahead of everyone on ease of use and their software. You can do this with other printers but it isn't easy.
    Aug 9, 2017 3:37 PM - WheresWaldo: If I decide to invest in something bigger it will be a laser based printer instead of an LCD based one. The LCD printers can get you into SLA printing cheaply, but eventually you will need something with more capability or build volume.
    Aug 9, 2017 3:38 PM - WheresWaldo: The Fuse 1 system from FormLabs looks really nice but 10K for a printer and another 10K for the material recovery system is a lot of money for a hobby.
     
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    Aug 9, 2017 11:11 PM - krouton3: i hate when i try to change filaments and forsome reason my controls are released and end up moring the print head out of the way -.-
    Aug 9, 2017 11:13 PM - krouton3: so one layer got screwed over but i repaused to move the printhead to the correct position and the controls decided to be locked... lol but i think i got it back to the point it needs to be in now
    Aug 10, 2017 5:19 AM - Geof: Good Morning all
    Aug 10, 2017 6:24 AM - danzca6: Hmmm, the Hex hotend on the C2 is a 19V and not a 12V? That seems odd. Why not just go to a 24V system? Otherwise the hotend looks identical.
    Aug 10, 2017 6:24 AM - danzca6: minus the connectors of course
    Aug 10, 2017 6:44 AM - Geof: hey danz. C2 is 19V R2 is 24V. No idea why?
    Aug 10, 2017 6:44 AM - Geof: other than the 24V is more "efficient" than the 12V systems lol
    Aug 10, 2017 6:51 AM - daniel871: You'd think it'd be easier to just go 24V and be done with it anyway.
    Aug 10, 2017 6:51 AM - Geof: seems it'd sure be less parts to stock lol
    Aug 10, 2017 6:52 AM - daniel871: Is it literally a power brick like what is used for a laptop or did they find the random 19v power supply that looks like every other DC power supply used in 3d printers.
    Aug 10, 2017 6:55 AM - Geof: nope power brick on both machines from my understanding (more akin to xbox)
    Aug 10, 2017 6:55 AM - danzca6: yeah that is odd to have a 19V and 24V system...making them the same would make more sense
    Aug 10, 2017 6:55 AM - Geof: dont have either rmachine so not sure
    Aug 10, 2017 6:55 AM - Geof: lol to much sense Danz ;)
    Aug 10, 2017 6:56 AM - danzca6: I think a 24V can give you more pwr from the stepper drivers as well
    Aug 10, 2017 6:56 AM - danzca6: funny how the UM runs on a similar brick
    Aug 10, 2017 6:56 AM - danzca6: love to change the R1 over to that...lots quieter
    Aug 10, 2017 6:57 AM - Geof: yep UM runs on them too. Works fine. no real issues. I believe the R2 is mainly modeled after the UM (to a point)
    Aug 10, 2017 6:57 AM - Geof: lots of the same or simliar style parts. Just cheaper.
    Aug 10, 2017 6:57 AM - danzca6: agreed
    Aug 10, 2017 6:58 AM - danzca6: very similar
    Aug 10, 2017 6:59 AM - danzca6: anyone see that Marlin 2.0 is coming out "soon"
    Aug 10, 2017 6:59 AM - danzca6: should have support for some 32 bit boards
    Aug 10, 2017 7:04 AM - Geof: lol :D meh
    Aug 10, 2017 7:05 AM - Geof: Would be overkill for most (if not all) my machines
    Aug 10, 2017 7:05 AM - danzca6: but....it will be new and shiny...hahaha
    Aug 10, 2017 7:06 AM - Geof: lol :D I dont even update half my stuff anymore. They all run production well so I leave well enough alone ;)
    Aug 10, 2017 7:06 AM - Geof: and then buy something new and shiny! lol
    Aug 10, 2017 7:06 AM - Geof: but...I have problems lol.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:07 AM - danzca6: Baahahahaahaha....but in a good way
    Aug 10, 2017 7:09 AM - danzca6: Geof did you see the youtube interview of Josef Prusa by All3DP? It was pretty good. Showed off his shop and his QA station
    Aug 10, 2017 7:09 AM - danzca6: I wonder how many 3d printer manufactures go through that sort of QA of the electronics
    Aug 10, 2017 7:10 AM - daniel871: Prusa Printers is probably the only one at the price point he sells the printers at.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:10 AM - Geof: likely so.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:11 AM - daniel871: With a few exceptions like certain resellers that at least run a test print on the machine before packing it up for selling.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:11 AM - Geof: I'd bet they all "have QA" but very few have good ones.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:11 AM - daniel871: Though the test print before packing up can backfire pretty hard.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:11 AM - danzca6:
    Aug 10, 2017 7:12 AM - daniel871: "Your printer tested fine 6 months ago before being packed up, enjoy your clogged hotend!"
    Aug 10, 2017 7:12 AM - danzca6: I don't think Prusa has printers sitting for 6 mo before shipping
    Aug 10, 2017 7:13 AM - danzca6: of course, now that his lead time is down to a day or two
    Aug 10, 2017 7:13 AM - Geof: Hard to imagine with all they hype the machine had that there are still people buying as many as he says lol
    Aug 10, 2017 7:13 AM - danzca6: he said in the vid that he is shipping 1K of the multi material kits a month
    Aug 10, 2017 7:13 AM - daniel871: I was talking about the reseller, not Prusa.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:13 AM - Geof: Thats not suprising. 12K machines a year.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:14 AM - danzca6: oh, yeah that makes sense then Daniel
    Aug 10, 2017 7:14 AM - danzca6: I think machines, the last I heard, was about 3K a month or more
    Aug 10, 2017 7:14 AM - Geof: I think both resellers and OEM daniel. for instance sigma runs test prints before packing up and shipping to resellers. No issue, but I believe there is a cold pull at the end of htat process.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:14 AM - danzca6: my memory is bad though these days
    Aug 10, 2017 7:15 AM - Geof: sub 1k printers...probably not lol. thats all on the reseller/customer
    Aug 10, 2017 7:15 AM - danzca6: speaking of that geof...
    Aug 10, 2017 7:15 AM - Geof: thats insane to me lol. I cant imagine that many people buying that many machines all year long.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:15 AM - Geof: whats up danz
    Aug 10, 2017 7:15 AM - daniel871: Eh, my $350 printer had that. But they didn't cold pull after printing. Still had some of the filament sticking out the top of the extruder.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:15 AM - danzca6: did you see Joel showing the pic of the gMax with dual X heads
    Aug 10, 2017 7:15 AM - danzca6: sigma style
    Aug 10, 2017 7:16 AM - Geof: nah I'm not big on watching on his videos so much.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:16 AM - danzca6: it was a twitter tease so far
    Aug 10, 2017 7:16 AM - Geof: gmax doesn't do dual extruder setup like the sigma though. Was it a gmax?
    Aug 10, 2017 7:16 AM - danzca6: yes I believe so
    Aug 10, 2017 7:16 AM - Geof: there are a few other companys that have very...ripped off machines from gmax lol
    Aug 10, 2017 7:17 AM - daniel871: Maybe I'm being picky, but this trend of Youtube reviewers getting filament colors named after their channel by some filament supplier trying to drum up business is sad/hilarious.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:17 AM - Geof: I dont think so :D lol. Anna and Gordon are working on the Gmax2 and its just linear rail and titan/v6 with better stepper drivers and built on rolling stand.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:17 AM - Geof: oh with mesh leveling. Nothing dual extruder they've told me about.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:18 AM - daniel871: Joel going full merch with hoodies has me rolling my eyes so hard.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:18 AM - Geof: (gcreates dual extruder is the 2013 old tech two hotends one carriage nonsense)
    Aug 10, 2017 7:18 AM - Geof: Gotta make that money somewhere Daniel. I imagine companies are more...stingy on sending out machines that dont get reviewed for x reason or y reason.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:19 AM - daniel871: It's not that, it's just that I look at them and think "Who the fuck would wear that in public?"
    Aug 10, 2017 7:19 AM - daniel871: Then I remember some of the stupid shit people wear in public.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:19 AM - Geof: Danz just went and had a look thats the formbot machine.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:19 AM - danzca6: yeah daniel the merch push is a bit much
    Aug 10, 2017 7:19 AM - danzca6: oh really?
    Aug 10, 2017 7:20 AM - daniel871: Farmbot?
    Aug 10, 2017 7:20 AM - Geof: https://www.3dprintersbay.com/formbot-trex-3d-printer
    Aug 10, 2017 7:20 AM - Geof: formbot
    Aug 10, 2017 7:20 AM - daniel871: Look up Farmbot, that's even funnier.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:20 AM - Geof: lol i'
    Aug 10, 2017 7:21 AM - danzca6: https://twitter.com/joeltelling/status/895492737515913217
    Aug 10, 2017 7:21 AM - Geof: m thinkin probably not while I'm working lol!
    Aug 10, 2017 7:21 AM - danzca6: you are right Geof...I missed that last night
    Aug 10, 2017 7:21 AM - Geof: yep older version "clone" that I think is taller than a gmax.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:21 AM - danzca6: I'm old and will blame it on that
    Aug 10, 2017 7:21 AM - danzca6: hahah
    Aug 10, 2017 7:21 AM - daniel871: Nah. Farmbot is just a CNC machine used to maintain a raised bed garden.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:22 AM - Geof: lol.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:22 AM - daniel871: Pretty neat concept thing. Solar powered with battery reservoir and arduino controls/steppers in weather resistant casings.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:23 AM - Geof: Danz I went and had a look at them. They seem like alot of ideas crammed into one printer and not implemented the greatest.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:23 AM - Geof: interesting daniel. I'll have to give it a look later.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:24 AM - danzca6: found this near Madison...I remember these when they came out. I wonder how good it is compared todays open source CNC machines like the MPCNC https://madison.craigslist.org/tls/d/craftsman-compucarve/6252700890.html
    Aug 10, 2017 7:24 AM - danzca6: just a toy really
    Aug 10, 2017 7:24 AM - Geof: if it works and cuts would be fun to play with for a few hundred bucks.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:24 AM - Geof: their all toys Danz, just to what extent lol.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:25 AM - daniel871: https://genesis.farmbot.io
    Aug 10, 2017 7:25 AM - daniel871: All open source, or you can buy the kit from them vs. tracking down parts.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:26 AM - danzca6: yeah they were a few thousand new I think
    Aug 10, 2017 7:26 AM - danzca6: 10 years ago
    Aug 10, 2017 7:28 AM - daniel871: It also got pretty horrible reviews everywhere.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:28 AM - Geof: lol sign me up for 5 of them :D ;)
    Aug 10, 2017 7:29 AM - daniel871: Here's the current machine: http://www.rockler.com/carvewright-cx-3d-cnc-system#turnto-reviews-content
    Aug 10, 2017 7:31 AM - daniel871: Don't buy the old Sears machine. It doesn't work (and is often self-destructive).
     
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    Aug 10, 2017 7:32 AM - Geof: :D self destructive! thats hilarious
    Aug 10, 2017 7:32 AM - danzca6: yeah I'd rather stick with the MPCNC...if it's going to be a toy, why not make it from scratch and have fun playing
    Aug 10, 2017 7:42 AM - daniel871: Lots of reviews about the old Sears machine talked about how it would randomly dive the tool bit into the bed or rapidly eject the material because of a dangerous fault behavior in the controls.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:46 AM - Geof: thats border line hilarious lol
    Aug 10, 2017 7:46 AM - JeffTheMess: morning robonauts
    Aug 10, 2017 7:50 AM - Geof: Good Morning
    Aug 10, 2017 7:51 AM - JeffTheMess: this place still alive and kickin?
    Aug 10, 2017 7:57 AM - Geof: seems to be lol
    Aug 10, 2017 7:58 AM - daniel871: Bunch of people talking about anything but Robo printers.
    Aug 10, 2017 7:58 AM - daniel871: :p
    Aug 10, 2017 7:58 AM - Geof: lol tends to be a trend when there is a bunch of people on a forum
    Aug 10, 2017 7:58 AM - Geof: :D
    Aug 10, 2017 7:59 AM - Geof: or 4 or 5 lol
    Aug 10, 2017 8:00 AM - daniel871: Anybody else enter Thomas Sanladerer's 100K printer giveaway thing?
    Aug 10, 2017 8:01 AM - daniel871: He did it where it didn't have the "spam your friends for more entries" options, which is nice.
    Aug 10, 2017 8:01 AM - daniel871: https://gleam.io/yYugJ/toms-3d-100k-giveaway-prusa-mk2s
    Aug 10, 2017 8:01 AM - daniel871: Everyone that enters can only get up to 12 entries.
    Aug 10, 2017 8:03 AM - daniel871: 5 days left and just shy of 5,000 people have entered. LOL
    Aug 10, 2017 8:03 AM - Geof: thats pretty cool idea.
    Aug 10, 2017 8:03 AM - Geof: I do watch him. He is actually technical. not "give me free stuff and I'll print a toy"
    Aug 10, 2017 8:04 AM - daniel871: Yeah, I hate the other contests because there are always some idiots that spam the extra daily entries as hard as they can, not realizing that lowers the odds of winning by having a few hundred people flooding it with hundreds of entries.
    Aug 10, 2017 8:05 AM - daniel871: I mean, it works if you're the only one doing it, but when there are entire subreddits hammering it the odds approach lightning strike odds.
    Aug 10, 2017 8:06 AM - daniel871: Right now, assuming everyone that entered got all 12 entries, my odds are 1 in 4,889.
    Aug 10, 2017 8:06 AM - daniel871: Changing to 1 in maybe 4,895 if everyone reading right now entered.
    Aug 10, 2017 8:06 AM - Geof: lol
    Aug 10, 2017 8:08 AM - daniel871: Given my luck on contest win printers though, it would probably get destroyed in shipping or something.
    Aug 10, 2017 8:09 AM - JeffTheMess: lulz
    Aug 10, 2017 8:11 AM - Geof: LOL aint that the truth.
    Aug 10, 2017 9:00 AM - jim3Dbot: 58874 Total Entries, that's what I'm seeing......but, I got my 12 entries...Thanks Daniel
    Aug 10, 2017 9:18 AM - Geof: daniel your odds just went down ;)
    Aug 10, 2017 9:21 AM - daniel871: :mad:
    Aug 10, 2017 9:26 AM - JeffTheMess: damn thats alot
    Aug 10, 2017 9:35 AM - daniel871: Each person can get 12 entries, that's not 58,874 people.
    Aug 10, 2017 9:54 AM - jim3Dbot: Daniel, your ahead of me........shame of my math skills..........
    Aug 10, 2017 10:02 AM - daniel871: Oh look, it's the next Peachy Printer: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/249504031/sparkmaker-the-most-affordable-desktop-sla-3d-prin
    Aug 10, 2017 10:02 AM - daniel871: Calling a printer "Sparkmaker" isn't the smartest idea when it comes to naming conventions, either.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:04 AM - Geof: LOL I like that you thought peachy printer too.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:04 AM - Geof: for 100.00 it might be worth a gamble but...come on. The resin costs more than that lol
    Aug 10, 2017 10:07 AM - daniel871: I like some of the broken english in the campaign, too.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:09 AM - Geof: yea i noticed that too. I'm not a huge fan of kickstarters in general lol.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:10 AM - Geof: has to be way cheap and low risk for me to even be interested.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:13 AM - daniel871: So far that Monoprice Delta is still looking good for the price they put on it.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:14 AM - daniel871: All of the complaints I've seen on it so far are the standard "Idiot that has never used a 3d printer before" stuff.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:17 AM - daniel871: But that's not really a fair comparison since it was frickin' Monoprice using crowdfunding to do pre-orders and weren't actually looking for funding for the project.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:19 AM - Geof: yea at 100.00 you really better have a good service team to help new people because that will be the majority if not all your market.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:21 AM - Geof: daniel did you see the indian print thats getting complaints on this page https://www.kickstarter.com/project...-affordable-desktop-sla-3d-prin/posts/1953461
    Aug 10, 2017 10:21 AM - WheresWaldo: The Sparkmaster is tiny, I would guess it is just for novelty printing, kinda like the C2 is, a pretty desktop knick-knack.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:23 AM - daniel871: Yeah, well, I'm pretty sure the LCD they specified wouldn't give super high resolution anyway.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:23 AM - Geof: yep looks that way
    Aug 10, 2017 10:24 AM - daniel871: LOL at the photos they posted here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2tkh5z9i9pnt9ty/AABS6r7iBMMnsyDGeXy38nn3a?dl=0
    Aug 10, 2017 10:24 AM - daniel871: Indian head and Putin bust.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:25 AM - krouton3: i have 217 parts printed for this project about 11 more to go lol
    Aug 10, 2017 10:25 AM - krouton3: 27parts*
    Aug 10, 2017 10:26 AM - daniel871: LOL they misspelled "Form" in "Form1+" in their campaign graphics.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:27 AM - daniel871: Okay, scrolled down to see the "team". They're definitely a bunch of college kids looking to steal money from idiots.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:28 AM - krouton3: a rough idea of how tall and big this project is lol [​IMG]
    Aug 10, 2017 10:28 AM - Geof: lookin good for them. they have a crap load of money already lol
    Aug 10, 2017 10:30 AM - Geof: what are you making?
    Aug 10, 2017 10:35 AM - WheresWaldo: The comments on the Sparkmaster are not very favorable. All complaining about the lack of resolution and failed prints.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:36 AM - krouton3: making samus's armcannon from metroid
    Aug 10, 2017 10:36 AM - krouton3: modified the files so that i can wire it up to get it to light up too
    Aug 10, 2017 10:40 AM - Geof: nice krouton3. Waldo- reading through them as well. Over exposure to prevent fails :D lol
    Aug 10, 2017 10:41 AM - Geof: from the creator...thats why they look so bad...100% success rate lol.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:43 AM - Geof: if they could fix that issue and get a better lcd it may be worth it for the "gamer" that wants minis. Hell a set of minis (from what I'm told) is well over the price of that machine.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:44 AM - Geof: I'm a bit confused on how its a SLA machine though? Explain? Its got a UV LED...and a LCD Screen....
    Aug 10, 2017 10:52 AM - daniel871: UV Backlight with LCD screen.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:52 AM - daniel871: Which still bugs me the way they describe it.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:53 AM - Geof: yea...not sla lol.
    Aug 10, 2017 10:54 AM - Geof: I thought the D7 was small. man that is one hella small build lol
    Aug 10, 2017 11:43 AM - JeffTheMess: D7 looks great
    Aug 10, 2017 12:25 PM - Geof: its not bad. still learning.
    Aug 10, 2017 12:25 PM - Geof: most issues are my own, don't appeaer to be the machine.
    Aug 10, 2017 12:26 PM - daniel871: Have you had any successful prints Geof?
    Aug 10, 2017 12:35 PM - daniel871: I think this is it, the best Chrome Extension. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/shut-up/oklfoejikkmejobodofaimigojomlfim?hl=en
    Aug 10, 2017 12:35 PM - Geof: yea a few. Nothing crazy notable. lots of test prints to get the different resin profiles tuned in.
    Aug 10, 2017 12:36 PM - Geof: really the only "fails" i've had have been my own fault due to not knowing what I'm doing. Positioning models in a way that isn't printable in the upside down orientation and things like that.
    Aug 10, 2017 12:43 PM - daniel871: Hahaha, Joel Telling just posted a video about the Ruby nozzle.
    Aug 10, 2017 12:44 PM - daniel871: Comments already up like "That nozzle costs more than my entire Anet A8"
    Aug 10, 2017 12:44 PM - daniel871: I replied to that one with "That isn't saying much, given how the Anet A8 is a really expensive way to build a fire"
    Aug 10, 2017 12:47 PM - WheresWaldo: Jeff, Geof will be an expert in the D7 in no time at all.
    Aug 10, 2017 12:50 PM - Geof: one day lol. Maybe about the time I run out of the resin I bought ;) lol
    Aug 10, 2017 12:50 PM - Geof: its going well though, you gave a huge jumpstart with all the heads up and info before I got it :D
    Aug 10, 2017 2:20 PM - daniel871: I wonder when Joel Telling is going to post his final review of the Robo R2.
    Aug 10, 2017 2:20 PM - daniel871: Assuming it didn't break and everyone just agreed to pretend it never happened.
    Aug 10, 2017 2:25 PM - Geof: Wouldnt be much of a reviewer if that happened
    Aug 10, 2017 2:27 PM - daniel871: He's less "reviewer" and more "Look at this low pixel pokemon/hairy lion I printed on *this* printer" guy.
    Aug 10, 2017 3:23 PM - danzca6: Did anyone see the interview with Robo (Braydon) that MatterHackers posted today? Maybe it's too close to dinner ;)
    Aug 10, 2017 4:54 PM - krouton3: 10 parts left to go with about 960.88 grams of filament left ot use and 66hrs of time left to print
    Aug 10, 2017 5:22 PM - krouton3: my only complaint with the r1 is the darn waves it makes in my prints from the print bed moving back and forth lol
    Aug 10, 2017 6:06 PM - daniel871: Slow down.
    Aug 10, 2017 6:09 PM - Toro1966: Been looking hard at the CR-10- but the more I look at it, the more I want the GMAX XT 1.5+
    Aug 10, 2017 7:21 PM - danzca6: Toro... Just get them both and be done with it hahaha it's easy for me to spend others money
    Aug 10, 2017 7:32 PM - Toro1966: Lol - Exactly! That said, I don't know where I would put both of these monsters!
    Aug 10, 2017 8:12 PM - Geof: Cr10 isnt that big. ;)
    Aug 10, 2017 8:13 PM - Geof: Toro ping me tomorrow i can take some pics foe you
     
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    Aug 11, 2017 at 3:34 AM - AutopsyTurvy: Well, crap. Looks like my kickstarter r1 finally died.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 3:37 AM - AutopsyTurvy: ... otoh, my birthday's coming up and as soon as I mentioned the printer being dead, Mr. Turvy immediately suggested just ordering me an R2... Preeetttty sure he doesn't know it's like twice the price though.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 4:03 AM - daniel871: Tell him to get you a Prusa MK2S instead, it's about the same price as the R1 MSRP.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 4:03 AM - daniel871: Also, better heated bed.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 4:04 AM - AutopsyTurvy: lol f me, that's only 400 euros and I can get it from basically-Dutch-Amazon.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 4:04 AM - daniel871: The Original Prusa MK2S?
    Aug 11, 2017 at 4:05 AM - daniel871: Oh Euros. I was about to say gimme a link if it was USD
    Aug 11, 2017 at 4:06 AM - daniel871: Here's Thomas Sanladerer's review of it if you need something to show Mr. Turvy as a reason why to get that one.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 4:07 AM - AutopsyTurvy: He'll just go with whatever I say I want. :D
    Aug 11, 2017 at 4:08 AM - daniel871: Watch the video anyway, there's a lot of good info on it to put it in perspective with what you've been using.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 4:24 AM - AutopsyTurvy: You're not the only one recommending that one... Looks like it's a good bet, and probably cost me less than fixing up my R1 back into working order.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 4:35 AM - JeffTheMess: morning roboneers
    Aug 11, 2017 at 4:40 AM - daniel871: Happy Friday
    Aug 11, 2017 at 4:41 AM - JeffTheMess: indeed TGIF
    Aug 11, 2017 at 6:03 AM - Geof: Good Morning all
    Aug 11, 2017 at 6:18 AM - JeffTheMess: whatsup
    Aug 11, 2017 at 6:22 AM - Geof: meltin plastic
    Aug 11, 2017 at 6:22 AM - Geof: you?
    Aug 11, 2017 at 7:53 AM - JeffTheMess: wish I was doing that
    Aug 11, 2017 at 7:55 AM - Geof: lol start it up :D
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:03 AM - daniel871: I haven't had to tinker with any of my printers to get them to print things and I've run out of ideas for things to print. :(
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:23 AM - daniel871: Huh. I haven't logged into 3d hubs since deactivating my hub on there when the R1 started having problems, and now it looks like they've removed my ability to reopen the hub.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:27 AM - Geof: yea you have to start a new one.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:27 AM - Geof: not really worth doing since they push their "buisness partners" the work and give the shit jobs to the "local hubs"
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:27 AM - Geof: last job I had come through there was a 1500 print hour flexible job they wanted run on a sigma in 2 days.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:27 AM - Geof: yea...not possible.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:28 AM - Geof: I dont even think sigmas print farm could do that lol.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:28 AM - daniel871: The link to start a hub isn't in the dropdown.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:38 AM - Geof: They have you go through all sorts of stuff now. They may have even done away with the ability to start a hub. hard telling.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:39 AM - Geof: top of the page. Sign up.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:39 AM - Geof: Next to log in.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:42 AM - JeffTheMess: you guys do 3dhubs often enough to see some profit?
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:49 AM - Geof: 3d hubs? no. Its more so doens't hurt extra money thing.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:49 AM - daniel871: It's not there if you're logged in already.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:49 AM - daniel871: Hm.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:49 AM - Geof: oh yea you gotta log out and sign back up.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:49 AM - Geof: I think maybe 400 bucks or so in work. I have had big jobs come through there but they often take the job off 3d hubs and go direct for some reason or another. Normally that 3d hubs is broken.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:50 AM - Geof: cost is jacked and its hard to communicate. Much easier over the phone.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:51 AM - daniel871: How does the setup on 3dhubs compare to Shapeways?
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:51 AM - daniel871: Other than my amateur printers probably being laughed off the site.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:52 AM - daniel871: Also when I go to sign up again I get "There is already an account using this info, please log in on that account"
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:52 AM - daniel871: Blah, never mind then 3dhubs.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:53 AM - Geof: lol yep ran into that too when work shut theirs off prior to me coming aboard. had to bring mine. Couldn't open theirs back up.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:53 AM - Geof: I'm not on shapeways.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:53 AM - Geof: typically i get more money/better margins finding jobs on my own lol.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:54 AM - daniel871: Who was it that was on Shapeways? Waldo?
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:54 AM - daniel871: Found their tutorials pages about setting up a shop, so I won't bug him about it either way. Going to spend time reading those first.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:56 AM - Geof: yea I think he is but as a modeler. I dont think he is there as a print service...I'm not sure shapeways does that?
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:56 AM - daniel871: https://www.shapeways.com/tutorials/open_shop if anyone else wants to start looking into it.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:00 AM - daniel871: Shapeways used to allow people to sell their own prints, but I think you're right. I'm not seeing any tutorials or articles about selling your own 3d printed models outside of uploading them for other people to buy from Shapeways.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:08 AM - Geof: yea I think you can only upload your models and people can "order" the printed version off your "shop"
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:08 AM - WheresWaldo: I have been on Shapeways for over two years, While I have been there I have never seen an option for selling your own 3D prints. It wouldn't make sense for them to do that, they are a print service primarily. iMaterialize and Ponoko do not let you do this either.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:09 AM - WheresWaldo: I am sure you must be thinking about some other service.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:10 AM - Geof: maybe the makexyz ?
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:10 AM - Geof: I think they are the "outdated" 3d hubs competitor
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:11 AM - WheresWaldo: Shapeways does have an option to allow the creator let people download the STL model file. It would be the exact same file that the designer uploads. I never have never enabled that option.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:12 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan, it would be no bother if you have general questions about Shapeways that are not answered in their FAQs.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:15 AM - WheresWaldo: One thing that I will mention, the bulk of Shapeways designers are making jewelry, and not general purpose or utility models. A large percentage of those jewelry designers also have pages outside of Shapeways (including sites like Etsy). Many also just use Shapeways as a supplier for the metal parts, A ring can be designed and printed, Shapeways mixes manufacturing methods (as does Ponoko)...
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:18 AM - daniel871: So much for that idea then. I guess I'll just do some preventative maintenance to the printers and let them sit until I figure out something else to do with them.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:18 AM - WheresWaldo: ... so let's use a ring as an example, designer creates a model has Shapeways produce it in a valuable metal. Shapes prints in a castable material, makes a mold uses traditional methods to cast it and then polishes it before sending it to the designer. The designer adds value (gems, other stones, modifications, additions, etc) and then sells it on their Estsy page.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:19 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan are you trying to monetize your investment in your printers?
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:21 AM - daniel871: Nah, I've printed enough things for projects around the house/shop that I've made that money back in savings over going out and buying ready-made stuff.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:22 AM - daniel871: I'm trying to figure out what to do next, is all.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:23 AM - Geof: full build volume cube :D
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:23 AM - Geof: dense infill
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:23 AM - Geof: 10 perimeters
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:23 AM - Geof: GO! :D
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:23 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof will probably tell you that 3D Hubs isn't worth the time. But if you are looking to makes a few bucks to finance future filament purchases, then Goef may have some insight on how he started out. I am assuming it was a lot of word of mouth, etc.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:25 AM - WheresWaldo: My thought was not to profit from 3D printing, but rather to profit from the design work. That is one reason why I use Shapeways.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:27 AM - daniel871: Something to do that isn't a complete waste of materials, Geof. :p
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:27 AM - Geof: LOL oh now you got stipulations jeeze ;) lol
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:27 AM - Geof: I am lucky in the aspect that I have alot of "tech" hobbies and had alot of people wanting things for those
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:28 AM - Geof: I got started 3d printing because I restore old pachinko, slot machines and pinball machines and needed parts. So then i figured someone else might to and some other people did...then I needed another machine....then another....then another lol
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:28 AM - daniel871: I've done a few small-time tchotchkes for family, but there's no real money in that.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:28 AM - Geof: As far as manufacturing customers...I was a Quality Engineer and worked in a bunch of different factories over the years (freelance type of deal)
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:29 AM - Geof: so when I was printing stuff I'd remember things they needed, would make and print one and take it in and talk with them.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:29 AM - daniel871: Like that glue gun workstation printed in PETG that ended up being less expensive by far than some of the ones offered on Etsy.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:29 AM - Geof: then those people would go somewhere else and work and that company would call me lol.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM - Geof: now I have all sorts of customers, the machine shop has customers that tour the 3d area then find jobs that are better suited for that than the cost of machining
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM - daniel871: Haha. 3Dhubs sent me an email response to trying to get in to reactivate my hub saying they put in a waiting list system for some reason and they'd let me know about reactivating by Monday.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM - daniel871: Hahaha.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:31 AM - daniel871: Good job telling everyone about it, 3dhubs.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:31 AM - Geof: LOL they must be upset that you quit ;)
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:31 AM - daniel871: "Fuck this guy, we'll just keep him from reopening without asking us first!"
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:32 AM - daniel871: "Also we'll make him wait through the weekend, when he'd have the free time to fool with getting things set up again."
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:33 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof, that is kinda the way I started, owned a bike shop, needed a part that no one made, so I 3d Printed it. others saw and asked, then it just grew from there.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:34 AM - WheresWaldo: But I knew the stuff I was doing was not well suited to FDM printing and rresin at the time was too expensive (both time and money)
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:36 AM - WheresWaldo: My home printing is probably a lot like Dan's, a lot of fix it kind of prints, stuff my wife sticks on her desk at work, and sections of my models just to test or as proof of concept kind of stuff.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:36 AM - daniel871: That's pretty much exactly what I've been doing so far.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:38 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan, I really think that is the niche home 3D printing has carved out for itself.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:38 AM - Geof: pretty much.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:38 AM - daniel871: My setups are pretty good at doing dimensionally accurate prints of things, but it starts going to pot if I try to print something "artistic" for some reason.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:38 AM - WheresWaldo: THere are times that I think about printing something then decide to buy it on eBay because it's cheap and a lot less hassle.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:39 AM - Geof: LOL I'm the other way...almost everything in my house is printed. But alot of that is learning modeling software and the such
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:40 AM - daniel871: Well, other than the most common 3d printed models people do like the Benchy/Groot/Dragons/Geese.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:40 AM - WheresWaldo: I needed a lenscover for our Honda, I could print one in about an hour and maybe another modeling it. Bought an OEM one from eBay for $5. No brainer.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:40 AM - daniel871: Tried to print a flower model and that thing went to Hell in a hurry.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:42 AM - WheresWaldo: Funny thing was that I even told my wife I would 3D print it, still went with eBay.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:43 AM - Geof: LOL what she doesn't know ;) lol. I would have printed it just because :D
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:46 AM - daniel871: I wouldn't print something on a vehicle unless I had some ASA on hand to print it in. :p
     
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    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:46 AM - Geof: you got a problem with HT man? lol
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:46 AM - WheresWaldo: Here is an example of stuff I actually print, [​IMG]
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:48 AM - WheresWaldo: It is a prototype of an insert for a bicycle computer mount. It was made to adapt and existing product to work with a brand they never intended it to work with. The resin is too brittle to be an actual working model, but it will work for a few insertions.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:50 AM - WheresWaldo: I generally like to print in a transparent material, so I can see how the inside works. But tchotskies get printed in solid colors. Mostly on the Robo in PETG or PLA.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:51 AM - Geof: I use a crapton of pla, abs and nylon. Then xt, ht, ngen
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:53 AM - daniel871: Pretty much 100% PETG here.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:54 AM - daniel871: Did any of you watch that video where Thomas Sanladerer tested 3d printed materials against bullets?
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:54 AM - daniel871: Now *that* was a fun video.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:55 AM - daniel871: Pretty much all of my guns are much higher velocity than the ones he was playing with though, so I couldn't do that without every single material failing.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 9:55 AM - daniel871: (rifles)
    Aug 11, 2017 at 10:06 AM - Geof: lol does it really matter if the part holds up though at that point? baby groot gotta die ;)
    Aug 11, 2017 at 10:34 AM - danzca6: there's a model for that Geof https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2026795
    Aug 11, 2017 at 10:38 AM - Geof: thats less fun than daniel going deadpool on a groot danz ;)
    Aug 11, 2017 at 10:41 AM - daniel871: Hm...
    Aug 11, 2017 at 10:42 AM - danzca6: haha either way...just film it for the rest of us to enjoy
    Aug 11, 2017 at 10:53 AM - Geof: thats what I was thinkin :D
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:02 AM - daniel871: I don't have a high speed camera for the dramatic slow motion replay of a print being pulverized by 7.62x54r or .30-06 or one of the random swiss rounds I have.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:05 AM - Geof: lol dan....were going to need you to do this.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:11 AM - daniel871: Guess I better create a Patreon claiming I need funds for cameras to start a Youtube channel.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:11 AM - Geof: LOL you might get more money if you told them what its really for ;)
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:12 AM - daniel871: I wonder if there are actually Patreons that are literally "Hey, I need money, gimme some"
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:13 AM - daniel871: Welp, so much for that idea, Patreon's guidelines state that weapons and promoting the use of them are prohibited.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:14 AM - Geof: well thats just not right...go fund me? kickstarter?
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:14 AM - Geof: ;) indiegogo
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:14 AM - daniel871: lol
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:15 AM - daniel871: Pretty sure Kickstarter has the same rules.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:15 AM - daniel871: Hm.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:15 AM - daniel871: If it wasn't for exposing myself to dipshits there would always be Hatreon.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:17 AM - daniel871: https://www.usatoday.com/videos/new...ew-crowdfunding-platform-alt-right/104313784/
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:17 AM - Geof: lol !
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:17 AM - daniel871: Then again, there might be a ton of money there...
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:17 AM - Geof: probably more than any of us would like to acknowledge :)
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:23 AM - daniel871: Hm, if I want to create a Patreon creator page, I need to put some thought into a gimmick name.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:26 AM - Geof: "buy that for a dolla"
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:27 AM - daniel871: Bixby Snyder?
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:33 AM - Geof: LOL
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:41 AM - daniel871: Well, what would be a good camera to look at for the first goal?
    Aug 11, 2017 at 11:42 AM - Geof: I have no idea lol, thats beyond me :D
    Aug 11, 2017 at 12:33 PM - daniel871: Welp, I figure if it's good enough for Thomas Sanladerer it should be good enough for what I'd do. First goal is funding to buy one of the same cameras he uses.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 12:36 PM - Geof: lol likely so!
    Aug 11, 2017 at 12:49 PM - daniel871: This is lame as hell, but here we go: https://www.patreon.com/bixbysnyder
    Aug 11, 2017 at 12:58 PM - Geof: LOL hilarious!
    Aug 11, 2017 at 1:56 PM - daniel871: Won't get a dime, but social media shared anyway. lol
    Aug 11, 2017 at 2:19 PM - daniel871: Mike Pence's website got hacked and the edits are hilarious.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 2:19 PM - daniel871: http://www.officialmikepence.com
    Aug 11, 2017 at 2:19 PM - daniel871: "Give us your email and we'll remind you to kill any tiny dog you see"
    Aug 11, 2017 at 2:21 PM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Aug 11, 2017 at 2:22 PM - daniel871: Some of that merch might fit right in with 3dPrintingNerd's merch.
    Aug 11, 2017 at 2:23 PM - daniel871: "mouth corner ointment"
    Aug 11, 2017 at 2:36 PM - daniel871: Anyway, a challenger to the 3d printed dragon model approaches: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2479319
    Aug 11, 2017 at 7:30 PM - danzca6: Well at least they didn't remix it to put a politicians head on it
    Aug 11, 2017 at 8:05 PM - daniel871: Hey now, the politician heads on butt plugs are hilarious.
     
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    Aug 12, 2017 8:41 AM - Dick Travis: had the r2 for over 2 weeks without a problem, but now it has stopped warming the bed???
    Aug 12, 2017 9:14 AM - Geof: Pogo pins likely. Contact Robo support
     
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    Aug 13, 2017 at 12:21 AM - krouton3: just 5 more parts left to print [​IMG]
     
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    Aug 14, 2017 4:24 AM - daniel871: Did anyone else watch Thomas Sanladerer's livestream where he finally caved to people asking him about Anet printers and did a live build of one and how stupid they are/how much they suck?
    Aug 14, 2017 6:00 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan what was Thomas' conclusion?
    Aug 14, 2017 6:09 AM - daniel871: I haven't finished the video yet, but he gave them a lot of shit for their crappy manual and lots of things that need to be done during the assembly for things to work properly that weren't documented and that a newbie wouldn't know to look for if it was their first printer.
    Aug 14, 2017 6:10 AM - daniel871: One thing that stuck out was that the stepper motors were installed so that the connector plugs were all facing directions that would interfere with assembly and also interfere with motion after assembled.
    Aug 14, 2017 6:10 AM - daniel871: Z-stepper connectors were facing so that they would interfere with the Y-carriage travel path.
    Aug 14, 2017 6:11 AM - daniel871: (Z-steppers sit on top of the foundation frame and basically put said connector directly in the path of the carriage unless you rotate them)
    Aug 14, 2017 6:15 AM - daniel871: Also a lot of complaining by Tom about pretty much every poorly thought out choice of components in the build. Like standard flat/square wheels on standard extrusions instead of V-slots with V-wheels. Also every single component was loose/not tightened properly.
    Aug 14, 2017 6:15 AM - daniel871: Also a hilariously long Bowden tube that was 4mm od x 3mm id for a 1.75mm system.
    Aug 14, 2017 6:17 AM - WheresWaldo: Wow, guess you get what you pay for on the Anet.
    Aug 14, 2017 6:22 AM - daniel871: Well yeah. Some people are getting mad at Tom for "nit-picking" it though.
    Aug 14, 2017 6:57 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan, You and I both know that no one wants their decisions questioned, so if you hate on something whether justified or not and you tell a bunch of people that already bought it that they are stupid they are going to be mad.
    Aug 14, 2017 6:59 AM - daniel871: Yeah, I've just been posting reminders that Tom's reviews are almost always from the point of view of someone following whatever manual comes with the printer. So if Anet wants better results they should do better QC and provide better manuals.
    Aug 14, 2017 7:00 AM - daniel871: I mean, remember the lego-like printer he put together a while back? That thing was another pile of hot garbage, but it had a better manual.
    Aug 14, 2017 7:00 AM - daniel871: So most of his criticisms had to do with the bad design and not compounded issues caused by bad documentation
    Aug 14, 2017 7:30 AM - WheresWaldo: Well people buying in this range and are noobs probably shouldn't be buying kits to begin with. Did he actually get to print anything after the build?
    Aug 14, 2017 7:31 AM - WheresWaldo: There are a bunch of people sucked in by the more expereinced people showing prints then thinking they are going to get the same results out of the box, just because.
    Aug 14, 2017 7:32 AM - daniel871: He did, but it looked like pure shit. LOL
    Aug 14, 2017 7:33 AM - daniel871: When the print was done a shitload of filament came spilling out of the nozzle from all of the backpressure in the bowden tube.
    Aug 14, 2017 7:34 AM - daniel871: And the only reason it printed at all was because he broke down and did some extra things to it not in the manual so that all of the wires could physically connect up to the stepper motors.
    Aug 14, 2017 7:39 AM - WheresWaldo: What I have seen from YT audiences and to as greater extent manufacturers forums is that most of the audience are people that already bought their printers and are looking for that pat on the back to say they did a good thing. I think very few people actually look at forums to see if there are issues and YT is unreliable if you want unbiased reviews since they are dependent on those same manufacturers to keep providing products to review.
    Aug 14, 2017 7:40 AM - WheresWaldo: A company that really believes in their products should go to their harshest critics to show new things, but they just don't do that. They want the same platitudes that customers want to hear.
    Aug 14, 2017 7:41 AM - WheresWaldo: Especially in niche markets like these 3D printers we are so fond of.
    Aug 14, 2017 8:14 AM - daniel871: That reminds me, Joel Telling never did post that follow-up review of the R2.
    Aug 14, 2017 8:18 AM - daniel871: There is a comment thread on Twitter where he vaguely references a lot of power supply/cooling issues, but no ETA on the follow-up.
    Aug 14, 2017 8:45 AM - WheresWaldo: Joel is just another talking head, Mostly unboxings and "look what I printed" videos. But if he can't get it to print maybe he should pass it on to his buddy Jerry. :) ;)
    Aug 14, 2017 8:51 AM - WheresWaldo: Joel has probably come across the pogo-pin issue but I don't have any info on that, just a guess.
    Aug 14, 2017 9:11 AM - daniel871: Oh man, I'd love to see a reaction video of Joel handing the R2 off to Jerry and the look on his face.
    Aug 14, 2017 9:15 AM - daniel871: Also LOL @Joel trying to tread some kind of line about not wanting to piss off racists on twitter while also saying "racism is bad".
    Aug 14, 2017 9:17 AM - daniel871: I replied with "Fuck hurting a racist's feelings, if you want to offer any themed commentary it should be 'High Five Nazis right in their fucking faces'".
    Aug 14, 2017 9:49 AM - daniel871: https://twitter.com/joeltelling/status/897129816842842112
    Aug 14, 2017 9:49 AM - WheresWaldo: I have my own opinioins on all things twitter and the demographic it appeals to.
    Aug 14, 2017 10:02 AM - daniel871: I'm only on it for 3d printer contest entries.
    Aug 14, 2017 10:03 AM - daniel871: Rapidly finding out about every stupid thing politicians do is just a bonus.
    Aug 14, 2017 10:09 AM - WheresWaldo: I am on it for the entries also, but never frequent the pages and turned off all notifications.
    Aug 14, 2017 10:18 AM - daniel871: It's a pretty good source of schadenfreude when people do really stupid shit, if you're into that.
    Aug 14, 2017 10:19 AM - daniel871: Like the assholes in those racist marches being identified and losing their jobs for being irredeemable racist shitheads.
    Aug 14, 2017 10:21 AM - daniel871: What makes it Schadenfreude is their utter shock that doing those things has consequences.
    Aug 14, 2017 10:22 AM - WheresWaldo: Much more interested in the disappointing VEGA RX reviews, now seriously reconsidering my CAD computer's video choices, probably going to go with a 1080Ti w/ waterblock.
    Aug 14, 2017 10:56 AM - daniel871: Prusa Printers has finally outpaced their backlog and has units in stock. https://twitter.com/josefprusa/status/897144428313407488
    Aug 14, 2017 10:56 AM - daniel871: That first response though.
    Aug 14, 2017 11:42 AM - danzca6: what's wrong with my response?
    Aug 14, 2017 11:43 AM - danzca6: maybe the order of responses looks different to me
    Aug 14, 2017 11:46 AM - danzca6: you buying one Dan?
    Aug 14, 2017 12:10 PM - daniel871: I was talking about the one with the mario character freaking out.
    Aug 14, 2017 12:15 PM - danzca6: oh yeah...I noticed the other day what looks ok on a phone when you post looks completly different on a PC. Way more crazy with animated gifs. I need to stop using them
    Aug 14, 2017 12:24 PM - daniel871: And no, I'm not buying one any time soon.
    Aug 14, 2017 12:24 PM - daniel871: Slight chance of getting one from that contest, but otherwise, no.
     
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    Aug 15, 2017 at 5:58 AM - daniel871: Speaking of which, five hours left on that contest, then a drawing at some point later today.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 6:39 AM - Geof: Good Morning
    Aug 15, 2017 at 6:45 AM - daniel871: Morning Geof.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 6:46 AM - Geof: How goes it Daniel
    Aug 15, 2017 at 6:46 AM - daniel871: I'm going to hold off on actually creating videos of 3d prints being shot until after I recover from some surgery next Tuesday. Once some videos are made the Patreon gag profile might actually get some traffic.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 6:48 AM - Geof: That would be cool! Sorry to hear about surgery. Hope all goes well
    Aug 15, 2017 at 6:48 AM - daniel871: On the theory that I need to post some regular video speed videos of 3d printed parts exploding to help justify the campaign for a high speed camera.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 6:59 AM - daniel871: Eh, just more fallout from the damage done by chemo back in 2011.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 7:00 AM - daniel871: The doctor I saw for this was all "Yeah, having months of horrible muscle cramps in your digestive track will cause long term issues, who knew?!"
    Aug 15, 2017 at 7:01 AM - daniel871: Less sarcasm toward me personally and more toward the doctors that treated my cancer who didn't have me get checked out for this kind of thing sooner. I'll be fine, it's just another month or so of pain to look forward to recovering.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 7:10 AM - Geof: best wishes on a fast recover !
    Aug 15, 2017 at 7:24 AM - danzca6: chemo is a nasty thing...father in law is going through it. So many side effects that he even says at times if it's worth it. I sure hope this surgery helps repair the damage quickly for you Daniel.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 7:25 AM - Geof: Morning Danz!
    Aug 15, 2017 at 7:36 AM - daniel871: Eh. The chemo I went through was rough but I was told from the beginning that I was going to survive it because I had an extremely common cancer that they've basically nailed the treatment down on it.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 7:37 AM - daniel871: Depending on what your father-in-law has it may be far worse than what I went through.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 7:38 AM - daniel871: Though I figure the main differences are the starting point health you're in when you go through it. I was sweating blood and having godawful muscle cramps all the time, but didn't vomit because I loaded up on anti-nausea drugs.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 7:44 AM - daniel871: Best way for him to avoid what I'm dealing with now once he gets to the other side of it is to stick to a high fiber diet and get checked regularly for issues by a gastroenterologist, danzca. It's a minor thing in the scheme of cancer issues but still a pain.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 8:14 AM - danzca6: thanks Dan....I'll mention that to him tonight. His age might have a lot to do with it. He is struggling with the cancer and kidney failure at the same time. So the combo makes for a crazy balancing act with meds and such.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 8:14 AM - danzca6: man, sweating blood, you had some rough symptoms there...yikes
    Aug 15, 2017 at 8:20 AM - danzca6: oh and hey Geof...sorry bouncing in and out today
    Aug 15, 2017 at 8:56 AM - Geof: no worries Danz. I'm doing the same while juggling some finiky printers today lol
    Aug 15, 2017 at 9:56 AM - danzca6: they are probably just upset because you took yesterday off. They weren't used to sitting still that long.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 9:59 AM - Geof: LOL :D Thats the truth. tons to catch up on now. I havent run anything on them since Friday :D
    Aug 15, 2017 at 9:59 AM - Geof: (not goin to lie...it was nice )
    Aug 15, 2017 at 10:30 AM - krouton3: printing off the last part to this project woot
    Aug 15, 2017 at 11:08 AM - OutsourcedGuru: @daniel871 Sorry to hear that, dude. Long story, short: my Kaiser doctor diagnosed me with colon cancer back in... 2008 or 2009 or something like that. I decided to trust my own instinct and didn't go back to them.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 11:12 AM - daniel871: It's kind of a good time to be forced to take a break, really. Nazis are coming out of the woodwork and defacing holocaust memorials and the lincoln memorial for some reason, because those memorials are the same thing as memorials to traitorous secessionists in southern states that were put up to intimidate minorities.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 11:12 AM - daniel871: What is pissing me off about this is the unwillingness by the media at large to just straight up call these fuckers Nazis.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 11:13 AM - daniel871: "White nationalists", no, fuck that. They're literally waving swastika flags. They're Nazis.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 11:20 AM - OutsourcedGuru: It might have something to do with the Turd-in-Chief being a racist.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 11:21 AM - daniel871: Maybe. Someone pointed out that his mealy-mouthed response to this bullshit may have to do with him not wanting to say bad things about his own father. Makes sense, but still, fuck him.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 11:22 AM - OutsourcedGuru: The pendulum swings. Eight years with a black president and the Democrats decide to offer a woman as the next candidate. Brilliant thinking, guys. /sarcasm
    Aug 15, 2017 at 11:24 AM - daniel871: Yeah, you know you're fucking up when fucking Jeff Beauregard Sessions, Mr. "Too Racist to be a Supreme Court Judge in 1988" says what you're doing is too hateful for this nation.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 11:24 AM - OutsourcedGuru: lol
    Aug 15, 2017 at 11:27 AM - OutsourcedGuru: Oh look, it's Jeff leading parade (how patriotic!) http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/36840.jpg
    Aug 15, 2017 at 11:31 AM - daniel871: Certain cynical people on the internet pointed out that the only reason Sessions took the stance he did was because Heather Heyer was white.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 11:35 AM - OutsourcedGuru: Statistically-speaking, our nation is racist. And by that, I mean the fearful males in the red states who are the ones most likely to vote, to do stupid shit, to feel like it's their job to protect the white women.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 11:41 AM - daniel871: I'm getting a lot of schadenfreude out of the nazis losing their jobs when people on Twitter are reporting them to their employer.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 11:48 AM - daniel871: Even fucking Wal-Mart is getting in on condemning Trump: https://us3.walmartone.com/pages/stories-and-news/articles/a-message-from-doug/#
    Aug 15, 2017 at 12:28 PM - OutsourcedGuru: Perhaps Walmart has a little 'splainin to do: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/walmart-apologizes-after-racial-slur-used-in-product-description/
    Aug 15, 2017 at 12:34 PM - Ed Ferguson: As CEO's on Trump's council drop away, his response is there are many more to take their place. You know ... like The Apprentice where only has-been celebrities from the 80's were desperate enough to come on. I expect the CEO of Radio Shack to join soon.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 12:38 PM - daniel871: As much as I hate defending Walmart, that particular story was about Walmart opening things up so that third party product suppliers could put their own descriptions for things on Walmart's website. That's bad online site management, but not direct racism on Walmart's part (especially since most of those systems are written to be a "hands off" as possible).
    Aug 15, 2017 at 12:38 PM - daniel871: Walmart has done plenty of other despicable racist things over the years though.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 12:44 PM - OutsourcedGuru: My rants on Wal-Mart could go on forever. Their customer base *is* essentially the red states. It was balsy of their CEO to take a bold stance on this.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 12:48 PM - daniel871: That's exactly the part that impresses me. So many people that might otherwise boycott Walmart if Walmart didn't have a stranglehold on the markets that these people live in.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 1:05 PM - OutsourcedGuru: "90% of Americans live within 15 minutes of a Wal-mart"
    Aug 15, 2017 at 1:06 PM - OutsourcedGuru: http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/walmart.jpg
    Aug 15, 2017 at 1:28 PM - daniel871: Holy shit that public briefing. Trump literally said the Nazis did nothing wrong and did not instigate the violence.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 1:28 PM - daniel871: God damnit, if there isn't any fallout from that then literally nothing matters any more.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 1:29 PM - daniel871: "mr president would you like to double down on defending Nazis yes, and also let me make it clear the left groups protesting the Nazis are the real problem."
    Aug 15, 2017 at 2:04 PM - daniel871:
    Aug 15, 2017 at 2:04 PM - daniel871: Literally 15 minutes angrily defending Nazis.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 2:11 PM - krouton3: finall done printing off all the parts [​IMG]
    Aug 15, 2017 at 2:52 PM - Ed Ferguson: Six months of bizarre statements and actions are piling up. Support is eroding. Waiting for the tipping point where even his most loyal political supporters walk away.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 3:38 PM - Toro1966: Hey guys - need a profile for ninjaflex if someone has one.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 3:45 PM - OutsourcedGuru: @Toro1966 I don't have that filament yet. If you're talking Cura then mghtbgiant's post on here might be useful: https://ultimaker.com/en/community/20558-ninja-flex-on-um-2
    Aug 15, 2017 at 3:45 PM - OutsourcedGuru: ...and someone was suggesting that you need to oil it.
    Aug 15, 2017 at 3:51 PM - OutsourcedGuru: At least the Neo-Nazis like the OT: https://twitter.com/soledadobrien/status/896492127911149568/photo/1
    Aug 15, 2017 at 6:50 PM - Toro1966: Anyone tried out the tevo delta (Little Monster)'
    Aug 15, 2017 at 7:24 PM - daniel871: Nah. Tevo falls in the same camp as Anet for shitty unsafe printers.
     
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    Aug 16, 2017 at 6:11 AM - Geof: I "heard" the Delta is "better" than the others but I'm not willing to risk my money rebuilding a unsafe machine :D
    Aug 16, 2017 at 7:25 AM - daniel871: The only chinese knockoff 3d printer I remotely have any trust for is Wanhao/Monoprice, and even then that's after knowing what to look for and inspecting the unit for weak wiring and RMA-ing it until you get one that is assembled correctly/properly.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 7:26 AM - daniel871: Full disclosure - I only had to RMA my printer once due to a power surge popping one of the on-board fuses and killing the board.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 7:27 AM - daniel871: (this was before hooking it up to the massive active conditioning/dedicated power backup unit in my shop)
    Aug 16, 2017 at 10:30 AM - OutsourcedGuru: It's just sick at what the industry accepts in component specs (especially capacitors). There's another rock-solid capacitor which costs $0.18 more but they won't use it since the standard is to make things that break.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 10:37 AM - daniel871: LOL
    Aug 16, 2017 at 10:37 AM - daniel871: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/897869174323728385
    Aug 16, 2017 at 10:37 AM - daniel871: "I'm taking my ball and going home fuck you all!"
    Aug 16, 2017 at 11:27 AM - Ed Ferguson: That ends 45's claim to be a business leader, deal maker, and "winner". Would have been embarassing to have a meeting with all the empty chairs. Yeah - quit the game and go home. I was amused seeing the video of Elon Musk at one of the earlier meetings (he quit earlier over the Paris agreement walkout). Elon looked totally bored. He knew this council was just a big photo op for the WH.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 11:47 AM - daniel871: I am legit starting to get worried because his "base" isn't seeing how utterly destructive pretty much every move he makes has been so far.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 11:48 AM - daniel871: Even the "I am going to double down on defending Nazis" stuff from yesterday is playing as "Donald Trump Stands up to The Media" and not "Donald Trump is actually a racist Nazi sympathizer like he outright said on camera.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 11:56 AM - OutsourcedGuru: The media will eventually peal off, one by one. You have to expect that each outlet plays to their respective audiences. Wal-marters *want* to be coddled by a spun news-telling.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 12:02 PM - OutsourcedGuru: What's interesting is the list of CEOs who didn't resign: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Manufacturing_Council
    Aug 16, 2017 at 12:08 PM - daniel871: Best part of that article [​IMG]
    Aug 16, 2017 at 12:21 PM - Ed Ferguson: Many of the adults in the room decided to leave. 45's reaction was to disband the council. In other word's, "You can't quit on me - I've eliminated all the positions."
    Aug 16, 2017 at 12:24 PM - daniel871: Literally the next day after he Tweeted that he had dozens of other people willing to take their places.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 12:31 PM - Ed Ferguson: Reminds me of the convention when he tried to recruit some "A list" entertainers. They backed out. But he did get early 80's sitcom star Scott Baio "Chachi" to make an appearance. I guess Lenny & Squiggy had prior commitments. Sad.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 12:35 PM - daniel871: Holy shit Jeff Sessions is enthusiastically telling a story about an old woman getting raped. This is super creepy.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 12:35 PM - daniel871: The old pervert is breaking into a sweat over it.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 12:37 PM - daniel871: (I had the stream paused while working on something, so anyone else watching is probably wondering why I'm talking about something that happened over ten minutes ago)
    Aug 16, 2017 at 12:44 PM - Ed Ferguson: The happiest guy on the planet right now has to be former press secretary Sean Spicer. He's thinking, "Whoa - glad I don't have to go on camera and try to defend 45 anymore".
    Aug 16, 2017 at 1:21 PM - daniel871: I like to imagine that Sean Spicer is driving down a random highway whooping like Jessie Pinkman every day.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 1:23 PM - OutsourcedGuru: lol "Trump 'entirely correct' to blame both sides for Charlottesville - Fox News"
    Aug 16, 2017 at 1:38 PM - daniel871: That's just Fox News doubling down on encouraging people to ram protestors with cars.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 1:39 PM - daniel871: Oh wait they took down the article after the events of that weekend, but there are still copies of it on the Internet Archive from January of this year.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 1:41 PM - daniel871: http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/15/med...eo-car-crashing-liberal-protesters/index.html
    Aug 16, 2017 at 1:49 PM - OutsourcedGuru: One could make a case that Fox News has Third-Part Liability for the death and injuries in Charlottesville.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 1:51 PM - OutsourcedGuru: Party*
    Aug 16, 2017 at 1:56 PM - OutsourcedGuru: Gah... I'm working with a PhD so obviously, I have to write-up a response with diagrams which include all the possibilities and to mark the problems in red and the suggested path in green.
    Aug 16, 2017 at 1:56 PM - OutsourcedGuru: And then he asks which one I was suggesting. :facepalm:
    Aug 16, 2017 at 6:27 PM - krouton3: soldering parts together is soooo tedious... lol
    Aug 16, 2017 at 6:28 PM - krouton3: esentially 26 parts left to solder together
    Aug 16, 2017 at 6:29 PM - krouton3: cause i have 1 poarts thats 11parts sodlered together and anothe rpart thats 3 parts soldered together lol
    Aug 16, 2017 at 6:46 PM - danzca6: Hmmmm already refurbished C2 units available. Not a horrible price really. https://store.robo3d.com/collection...g-robo-c2-compact-smart-3d-printer-with-wi-fi
    Aug 16, 2017 at 7:04 PM - daniel871: Not a good price, either.
     
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    Aug 17, 2017 5:19 AM - Geof: 500 bucks really isn't bad. There are alot of people looking for a small printer with bells and whistles. A refurb C2 may fit the bill :D
    Aug 17, 2017 5:22 AM - WheresWaldo: Hard for me to say this but the C2 also appears to be a slightly better printer albeit small than the current R2.
    Aug 17, 2017 5:24 AM - WheresWaldo: Sometimes scaling up doesn't produce the expected results or new designs.
    Aug 17, 2017 5:46 AM - danzca6: The C2 I saw at MRRF was actually printing pretty well out of the box. I haven't seen much of that with the R2. I'm sure we'll see some refurb R2 units soon.
    Aug 17, 2017 5:52 AM - Geof: R2 has some serious issue that are being addressed. I'd agree the C2 seems the better machine.
    Aug 17, 2017 5:52 AM - Geof: Waldo I'm with you on that though, small :D
    Aug 17, 2017 7:28 AM - Toro1966: I'll stick with my R1+ (s). They are printing pretty nicely - though lately I am having a serious issue of supports remaining stuck to the build platform during the enitre print. Woke up to sphagetti this morning...
    Aug 17, 2017 7:50 AM - Geof: S3D V4?
    Aug 17, 2017 7:53 AM - daniel871: Seems like a job for the "Brim around supports" option in the new S3D version.
    Aug 17, 2017 7:58 AM - Toro1966: S3DV4
    Aug 17, 2017 7:58 AM - Geof: yea had alot of adjustments to do with supports and S3D V4.
    Aug 17, 2017 7:58 AM - Toro1966: I haven't seen that - I'll try it!
    Aug 17, 2017 9:29 AM - Toro1966: Hey guys - believe I am running 1.1.0 with MESH that Waldo put out last November. Was looking at upgrading to UBL and 1.1.4. Question is - should I, and what would be the benefits?
    Aug 17, 2017 9:29 AM - Toro1966: Follow on question would be - is there a how to on how to do it.
    Aug 17, 2017 10:14 AM - OutsourcedGuru: @danzca6 Wake me up when they have refurb R2's. :D
    Aug 17, 2017 10:18 AM - Geof: Toro. You might want to ping waldo. I havent adjusted the firmware since Mesh on the Robos. The only machine I have running UBL is my gmax and its...meh. I'd rather have just done mesh, just to lazy to change it.
    Aug 17, 2017 10:19 AM - OutsourcedGuru: lol "Start making a guitar in minutes!" versus "Print time: up to 25 hours" = https://store.robo3d.com/collection...print-your-own-guitar-kit-and-2-spools-of-pla
    Aug 17, 2017 10:26 AM - daniel871: Disclaimer: The guitar will sound like pure shit.
    Aug 17, 2017 10:32 AM - OutsourcedGuru: For every guitar, there's a band: http://www.laartstream.com/earmeal/pure-shit/
    Aug 17, 2017 10:34 AM - OutsourcedGuru: I thought UBL was "the new black".
    Aug 17, 2017 10:53 AM - daniel871: Nah, UBL is the new "Here is an revised product so it looks like we're doing something, never mind the bugs"
    Aug 17, 2017 10:53 AM - WheresWaldo: Toro 1.1.4 is more stable than 1.1.0 so if it were me I would upgrade. But, not totally necessary if everything works now, there are no real feature differences.
    Aug 17, 2017 10:54 AM - daniel871: Unless they finally fixed it, in which case nevermind
    Aug 17, 2017 10:54 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan it isn't that bad and it was an effort to standardize all the leveling schemes.
    Aug 17, 2017 10:57 AM - daniel871: In an odd twist, my opinion of bed leveling software has shifted to what Bill Monroe said about it a long time ago--it's a crutch for a bad hardware design. If you can manually level/tram the bed you're better off doing that and just touching off once. A warped bed plate is a bad thing and constantly compensating for it only helps if you don't care about the finished product being "true" on the bottom.
    Aug 17, 2017 10:58 AM - daniel871: I mean, it's what you do for traditional CNC milling machines. You don't see firmware for them going around probing the bed surface looking for irregularities.
    Aug 17, 2017 10:59 AM - daniel871: You touch off at a known location, zero things out, then input an offset for your tool length. Where 3d printers differ is you only have the one "tool".
    Aug 17, 2017 11:00 AM - daniel871: The hard part on the machines I have now has been modifying the frames so that they're square/the axis travels are properly perpendicular and then tramming the build plate and locking it in position. I haven't had to level the build plate on any of my printers since some time back in April when I finished locking them all down.
    Aug 17, 2017 11:05 AM - WheresWaldo: There are a few designs that are better than others. Better than the Mendel design that the Robo is based on. But I trammed once and all I need to do is home when its time to print. Not hard to mimic CNC operators. But if you need that kind of precision then FDM is not the way to go. There are better additive technologies for that, or you can CNC plastic too.
    Aug 17, 2017 11:07 AM - WheresWaldo: Although I have no personal experience a lot of CNC operators including Bill have said that Delrin is a joy to work with.
    Aug 17, 2017 11:09 AM - daniel871: For me it's less about precision and more about being OCD about machine surfaces from my background running/programming the CNC's we use.
    Aug 17, 2017 11:10 AM - Geof: meh....a warped bed within printable tolerances is fine. Mesh will let you use that surface, (great, less money then paying up for a "perfectly flat piece of glass" or milled aluminum sheet . If its out of the additive manufacturing tolerance than yea could pose a problem.
    Aug 17, 2017 11:10 AM - daniel871: We regularly machine parts in various grades of UHMW-PE, which is an absolute bitch to machine accurately with thermal expansion/contraction depending on the time of day.
    Aug 17, 2017 11:11 AM - Geof: the shop uses UHMW often, non issue for most called out specs, but thats all dependant on the client.
    Aug 17, 2017 11:12 AM - Geof: Waldo- XT machines wonderful. When I have to have a printed part turned down for tight tolerances I oversize everything and take it downstairs. machine cuts like butter :D
    Aug 17, 2017 11:12 AM - daniel871: I'm talking about components that have to have hole patterns that line up with existing bolt holes on machines in another region of the country (or even overseas) where there are different weather conditions.
    Aug 17, 2017 11:13 AM - daniel871: Things would be different if this company would invest in climate control systems for the shop but we aren't there yet.
    Aug 17, 2017 11:13 AM - Geof: were not either :D its just hot
    Aug 17, 2017 11:14 AM - daniel871: What's a lot of fun is when the shop runs programs for some components on an order, and the rest of the components the next day, goes to put them together and they won't fit because the temperature shock of the cooling overnight distorted the parts away from the parts that were machined the next morning.
    Aug 17, 2017 11:15 AM - daniel871: And it's not as easy as just heating the parts up again until they fit the parts machined that day. The temperature shocks cause permanent, uneven distortions.
    Aug 17, 2017 11:15 AM - daniel871: (parts that span 400+ inches in length, too)
    Aug 17, 2017 11:16 AM - Geof: LOL that would be a nightmare for sure.
    Aug 17, 2017 11:16 AM - Geof: All at once or none ;)
    Aug 17, 2017 11:21 AM - daniel871: Pretty much.
    Aug 17, 2017 11:22 AM - Geof: yuk. That would get irritating
    Aug 17, 2017 11:22 AM - daniel871: Anybody seen this printer making the rounds on Youtube? http://www.gearbest.com/3d-printers-3d-printer-kits/pp_641323.html?lkid=11126409
    Aug 17, 2017 11:23 AM - daniel871: I'm wondering how much BS is in the "resume work after power outage" feature at that price point.
    Aug 17, 2017 11:26 AM - daniel871: Also the filament sensor. Hm.
    Aug 17, 2017 11:57 AM - OutsourcedGuru: @daniel871 I suppose you could heat up the part... in a vacuum chamber... to expand it. At 400+" that would be a very big chamber. :(
    Aug 17, 2017 12:00 PM - OutsourcedGuru: Regarding gearbest, what do you think of that bed coating?
    Aug 17, 2017 12:35 PM - daniel871: Looks like buildtak to me.
    Aug 17, 2017 12:35 PM - daniel871: Oh, also, no idea what will hit you on customs/import taxes, etc.
    Aug 17, 2017 12:43 PM - Geof: if its on youtube give it a bit and you'll be able to find the ones that wernt cherry picked on craigslist and with a little work and half the cost/no import costs you could have that machine ;)
    Aug 17, 2017 1:24 PM - WheresWaldo: Generaslly nothing from China, Gearbest does what everyone else in China does. declare a low value and mark it GIFT on the customs declaration form.
    Aug 17, 2017 1:28 PM - daniel871: That one random youtuber that loved the CR-10 loves that one.
    Aug 17, 2017 1:29 PM - daniel871:
    Aug 17, 2017 1:30 PM - Geof: 112k subs
    Aug 17, 2017 1:32 PM - daniel871: Yeah. Literally never heard of the guy before but he came up in a "related videos" list.
    Aug 17, 2017 1:48 PM - daniel871: Oh, son of a bitch. The Turd is doubling down again today.
    Aug 17, 2017 1:49 PM - daniel871: TFW you aren't sure if you have to worry about World War 3 or Civil War 2. :(
    Aug 17, 2017 1:53 PM - daniel871: Literally expecting to see this in real life sometime soon. http://i.imgur.com/XTmXlHK.png
    Aug 17, 2017 2:37 PM - OutsourcedGuru: Love it when a draft-deferring Rethuglican looks up to people who actually served in the military. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html
    Aug 17, 2017 3:27 PM - danzca6: With all the hype around the CR-10 they're not perfect
     
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    Aug 17, 2017 9:13 PM - aaronwstone: So, is there place/market to sell one of these new R2's?
    Aug 18, 2017 12:48 AM - danzca6: EBay/Craigslist
    Aug 18, 2017 4:57 AM - daniel871: If you bought it at Amazon or a storefront like Best Buy, just return it if you never actually used it.
    Aug 18, 2017 5:32 AM - Geof: agreed. You wont get back what you put into it "used" return to OEM.
    Aug 18, 2017 6:09 AM - daniel871: It was only a matter of time, but here's Arnold chiming in on Trump defending Nazis and racists. Good stuff, if obvious. https://twitter.com/attn/status/898328098529083394
    Aug 18, 2017 9:16 AM - daniel871: Also, one entire committee resigned all at once. https://twitter.com/kalpenn/status/898547257062174724
    Aug 18, 2017 9:56 AM - Ed Ferguson: I thought Arnold was a bit of joke when elected to governor. But recently I watched his speech on renewable energy (and now the video telling 45 what he should have said this week). Arnold puts some thought behind his words.
    Aug 18, 2017 10:05 AM - Ed Ferguson: Oh - Now Bannon is out. WH is really looking like a re-run of The Apprentice. Who will go next week? Stay tuned!
    Aug 18, 2017 10:07 AM - daniel871: His currently pinned tweet video where he gave a graduation speech at some school was pretty good to listen to as well.
    Aug 18, 2017 10:08 AM - daniel871: The theme was "Don't ever call me a self-made man", which goes pretty hardcore counter to the stereotypical Republican rant.
    Aug 18, 2017 10:08 AM - daniel871: https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/863428100473933825
    Aug 18, 2017 10:11 AM - Ed Ferguson: Starting to figure out that 45 will only surround himself with Generals and family. Both tend to follow orders and not challenge him.
    Aug 18, 2017 10:12 AM - daniel871: I don't know, the Joint Chiefs all came out against what happened last weekend.
    Aug 18, 2017 10:17 AM - OutsourcedGuru: To be honest, Arnold tried to develop the "Hydrogen Highway" in California... only his mocked-up Hummer had a fake nozzle, wasn't hydrogen-powered and he'd just handed the keys to the kingdom to a short list of oil companies which reformed LNG on a pier in Los Angeles.
    Aug 18, 2017 10:18 AM - Ed Ferguson: They did indirectly - avoided calling him out by name. Bascially reminded the troops of their policy. That's the thing about 45 - everytime he blurts something out, someone has to clarify the facts, tell how things really work, or say he was mis-understood.
    Aug 18, 2017 10:37 AM - daniel871: Eh, nobody's perfect, but Arnold is probably the closest thing there is to a reasonable Republican that Democrats can work with (and he's always done better work for the community when he wasn't acting as a politician).
    Aug 18, 2017 10:38 AM - daniel871: The whole "if you're successful, you *must* give something back to the community you are thriving in" is an aspect of things you rarely hear from successful republican figures.
    Aug 18, 2017 10:56 AM - daniel871: Ahahahaha! http://i.imgur.com/KNB229f.jpg
    Aug 18, 2017 11:07 AM - Ed Ferguson: Bannon looks like a homeless guy. Will be interesting to see what he has to say in the coming days & weeks. Heck, 45's ghostwriter on "The Art of the Deal" says he fully expects 45 to resign. Of course in a way that trys to make it look like he's a winner for doing so.
    Aug 18, 2017 11:10 AM - Ed Ferguson: I should stop here and apologize to all homeless people for that comparison.
    Aug 18, 2017 11:19 AM - daniel871: I was thinking less "homeless guy" and more "The Before photo in every single 'miracle cure' product ad ever made"
    Aug 18, 2017 1:38 PM - OutsourcedGuru: Believe it or not, I was homeless about three years ago. (Go figure.)
    Aug 18, 2017 1:39 PM - OutsourcedGuru: (I got better.) /MontyPython
     
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    Aug 19, 2017 at 7:32 PM - danzca6: looks like the new update with the R2 has given some folks fits
    Aug 19, 2017 at 7:33 PM - danzca6: I guess don't be on the bleeding edge with Robo
    Aug 19, 2017 at 8:48 PM - Ed Ferguson: What's the issue with the latest R2 update?
     
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    Aug 20, 2017 2:27 AM - sgomes: No problems with the latest update on my end. That thread has just devolved into a completely parallel discussion :)
    Aug 20, 2017 6:24 AM - danzca6: Folks on Twitter are complaining about errors after the update
    Aug 20, 2017 6:24 AM - danzca6: Daniel here's Joel's first impressions
    Aug 20, 2017 6:40 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan, overall it isn't a bad first impression. Once more users get them, especially innovative people like some here already I think you will have a good printer in the R2. I will have one next weekend and plan to work on a real Marlin 1.1.4 and a few other things I have planned.
    Aug 20, 2017 7:10 AM - sgomes: I wish I shared Joel's optimism in Robo fixing the bugs, whether hardware or software. I think the good folks on this forum will have to be the ones doing a lot of the work there, if we want our R2s to perform well.
    Aug 20, 2017 7:34 AM - WheresWaldo: @sgomes yes they do need to pick up the ball. While relying on the community to make the R1 printer better, the same thing won't work on the R2/C2. There are a lot offeatures of the new line that have the potential of being really good, Robo seems to be a kind of company that just falls a bit short on the implementation. For example, the Pogo-Pins, innovative yes, implementation not so much.
    Aug 20, 2017 7:38 AM - WheresWaldo: Also please note that people who use forums are just a subset of the total customer base Robo has, it is near impossible to tell if the problems reported here are as widespread as we would like to think they are. There are a lot of people that think Facebook can be used for support, many more than those that frequent this forum. Plus there are people just starting out that may never see or realize they have an issue if it isn't catastrophic.
    Aug 20, 2017 8:46 AM - sgomes: I absolutely agree that's what needs to happen, yup. Let's hope it does.
    Aug 20, 2017 9:30 AM - Ed Ferguson: No problems with the latest R2 update here either.
    Aug 20, 2017 1:47 PM - AutopsyTurvy: I forget who it was who recommended the Prusa i3 mk2s but whoever that was, if you see this, THANK YOU. Prints like a dream and the quality is amazing as soon as I started printing, and didn't even take that long to assemble from a kit.
    Aug 20, 2017 1:53 PM - Geof: Their decent little machines for the money
    Aug 20, 2017 2:23 PM - daniel871: That was me, you're welcome.
    Aug 20, 2017 4:14 PM - danzca6: And there goes another Robo forum member
    Aug 20, 2017 4:21 PM - Geof: Nah the mk2 is just as plagued longevity wise. I work on mine just as much if not more than my robo.
    Aug 20, 2017 4:22 PM - Geof: And my robo has at least 3x the hours on it for.what thats worth :)
    Aug 20, 2017 4:23 PM - danzca6: Hahaha
    Aug 20, 2017 4:24 PM - danzca6: To be fair, she did have a beta Robo still printing like a champ up to the end
    Aug 20, 2017 4:25 PM - Geof: Lol 2013 tech to 2016 tech is a vast difference lol
    Aug 20, 2017 4:26 PM - Geof: I suppose I don't run either machine like a normal person ;)
    Aug 20, 2017 4:36 PM - danzca6: Both statements are very true
     

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