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    Oct 2, 2017 5:40 AM - daniel871: Hm, dancing baby groot STL printed just fine. I increased the speeds to 100mm/s to make it fail faster if it was going to and it actually ran better.
    Oct 2, 2017 5:41 AM - daniel871: Still the usual PETG stringing, but no actual failure.
    Oct 2, 2017 5:43 AM - Geof: nice ! little delta workin out then ?
    Oct 2, 2017 5:54 AM - daniel871: Yep. This thing is freakin' amazing. Only drawback is the print area for me.
    Oct 2, 2017 5:57 AM - daniel871: Here is a pic of it with zero cleanup done after removing it from the build plate. [​IMG]
    Oct 2, 2017 5:57 AM - daniel871: Also shot of the printer in the background.
    Oct 2, 2017 5:59 AM - Geof: man that thing is TINY lol! hilarious. Looks like a good print though!
    Oct 2, 2017 5:59 AM - Geof: Is the bowden tube actually PTFE? Or a knock off material that was causing your jams?
    Oct 2, 2017 6:00 AM - daniel871: Turned out the jam was due to a flat section in the filament spool that the gear couldn't push.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:00 AM - daniel871: More oval shape than round.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:01 AM - daniel871: The tube feels like PTFE to the touch, for as much as that's worth.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:01 AM - daniel871: Also, the fans on this thing only come on when the printer is "active". Once it cools below some threshold all fans turn off.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:02 AM - daniel871: Including the one that blows across the control board in the base.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:02 AM - Geof: I love that feature. My type a, sigma and prusa all do that. Its wonderful waking up to a cooled down quiet machine lol
    Oct 2, 2017 6:02 AM - Geof: Will be interested to see how it holds up. Would you feel up to doing a thread in the off topic section on your new delta/
    Oct 2, 2017 6:02 AM - Geof: ?*
    Oct 2, 2017 6:02 AM - Geof: just some prints and pics of the machine overall.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:03 AM - Geof: May be a good 2nd machine for some.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:03 AM - daniel871: The machine isn't all that loud to begin with (quieter than the hum of my laser printer next to the delta on my desk), but it's definitely noticeable.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:04 AM - daniel871: For $150 I'd say it would be a good "baby's 1st 3d printer" to replace the spot I used to put the Maker Select V2 in.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:04 AM - daniel871: Build area might be too small for most people for things other than printing commonly breaking replacement parts on other machines. *cough*
    Oct 2, 2017 6:08 AM - Geof: :D well see it'd be a good fit next to another printer ;
    Oct 2, 2017 6:08 AM - Geof: ;)
    Oct 2, 2017 6:13 AM - daniel871: Thread posted.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:17 AM - danzca6: Geof you could add that fan cutoff feature to your Robo...I've done it and it is nice that have
    Oct 2, 2017 6:17 AM - danzca6: decent print Daniel...just a hair dryer for a minute and that stringing will go away
    Oct 2, 2017 6:18 AM - danzca6: either of you build your adobtabot this weekend?
    Oct 2, 2017 6:19 AM - daniel871: Nah, I got distracted by the new powder coated steel toy.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:20 AM - Geof: I could do that yes Danz :D. But I tend to leave well enough alone lol.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:20 AM - daniel871: Also the teacher that was originally going to get the printer just backed out. The rural school doesn't want it because they're stupid.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:20 AM - Geof: All the Robos are working but they have a list of "fixes" for when they finally go down again.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:20 AM - Geof: No to adoptabot lol. I'm slackin hard.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:20 AM - daniel871: Fears of kids printing obscene objects or some such bullshit.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:21 AM - danzca6: mine is built, but haven't printed with it yet. Too many chores yesterday
    Oct 2, 2017 6:21 AM - daniel871: The "You are aware that you can see what is going to be printed before it is sent to the machine and that prints are actually really slow, right?" got nowhere.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:22 AM - daniel871: So... after I get it assembled I'll check into the next-nearest schools for interest and if none of them want it I'll see about donating it back to the people running the program and finding it a home.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:22 AM - danzca6: yeah once mine is tuned and such, then I will start contacting different teachers. I need to finish my design to cleanup the elextrical...looks like a hot mess and no way I would put that in a classroom like that
    Oct 2, 2017 6:23 AM - daniel871: Also I'm waiting for them to finish updating and revising the printed parts designs so that I only reprint the actual parts I need to reprint.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:23 AM - daniel871: The last news post talked about a different design for the area where the electronics are located.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:25 AM - danzca6: did you get a newsletter from him this weekend or just read the post on the site?
    Oct 2, 2017 6:25 AM - danzca6: I signed up for the newsletter twice and still haven't gotten anything
    Oct 2, 2017 6:26 AM - danzca6: also, I had to print some spacers/washers for mine...needed standoffs for the printrboard and a few of the screws went in too far so needed to put in a spacer
    Oct 2, 2017 6:27 AM - danzca6: still wish I could get an LCD installed on it, but no header for the F6 board...need to see if I can add one
    Oct 2, 2017 6:27 AM - danzca6: or go octoprint
    Oct 2, 2017 6:29 AM - daniel871: Octoprint is probably the easiest path since it's a known one.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:29 AM - daniel871: Also, saw the update on Twitter.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:29 AM - daniel871: The actual email listing is broken.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:41 AM - danzca6: after building this, I'm questioning the $100 price point for phase 3. You can get a STARTT for $99
    Oct 2, 2017 6:41 AM - Geof: Yep my thoughts exactly on that Danz.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:42 AM - Geof: even quantity sources through china I dont think I can hit the 100.00 price point
    Oct 2, 2017 6:42 AM - danzca6: curious to see how well these are recieved in the classroom
    Oct 2, 2017 6:43 AM - Geof: I dont know, if they have the amount of z wobble I saw I wont be donating it. It needs to work and work well.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:43 AM - Geof: I'm not going to put my name on junk. :D
    Oct 2, 2017 6:43 AM - danzca6: there a neat toy and a fun project, but I want to make sure it is going to be reliable and safe
    Oct 2, 2017 6:43 AM - danzca6: exactly
    Oct 2, 2017 6:43 AM - danzca6: I've seen some good prints off of them, but some are having the Z wobble issue
    Oct 2, 2017 6:44 AM - Geof: Yep. Needs some serious refinement to the design me thinks.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:44 AM - danzca6: one thing I learned is to not overtighten the Y motor or the mount will spread and push the rods out
    Oct 2, 2017 6:44 AM - Geof: Cheap is good, cheap junk is bad :D
    Oct 2, 2017 6:45 AM - Geof: .......thats not installing alot of confidence in me danz lol
    Oct 2, 2017 6:45 AM - danzca6: and a pair of clamps to push the plastic ends onto the rods all the way...when one is pushed more than the other it throws things off
    Oct 2, 2017 6:46 AM - danzca6: I did a redesign of the Y motor mount so it won't push out, but will see how it goes before installing it
    Oct 2, 2017 6:47 AM - Geof: I have a feeling alot of the parts need a redesign lol. Its just...to simple ya know
    Oct 2, 2017 6:49 AM - Geof: That startt for 100.00 really sets a high bar for a kit like this to perform. Mine has been fine and still is lol. Even after traveling...and not traveling carefully. I just chuck it in the trunk lol
    Oct 2, 2017 7:05 AM - daniel871: I'm a little nervous about road-testing the mini delta that way, even if it does have a carrying handle on top.
    Oct 2, 2017 7:05 AM - Geof: give it a go! They have a good warranty on that one too dont they?
    Oct 2, 2017 7:08 AM - Bill Monroe: Does this place have valet?
    Oct 2, 2017 7:09 AM - Geof: Sure does! Gotta mail the keys in though
    Oct 2, 2017 7:09 AM - Geof: how goes it Bill.
    Oct 2, 2017 7:09 AM - Bill Monroe: s'ok just killin time till new job starts
    Oct 2, 2017 7:09 AM - Bill Monroe: you?
    Oct 2, 2017 7:10 AM - Geof: hangin in there !
    Oct 2, 2017 7:10 AM - Bill Monroe: think i'm gunna pick up that .357 before the gun control freaks come out of the woodwork again
    Oct 2, 2017 7:12 AM - Geof: probably a good idea. We restocked on reload munition and all that jazz.
    Oct 2, 2017 7:12 AM - Bill Monroe: i reload myself...
    Oct 2, 2017 7:16 AM - daniel871: Fearing the gun control crowd is pretty pointless since we literally have a mass shooting every other month or so and nothing ever changes on that front.
    Oct 2, 2017 7:17 AM - daniel871: The only time it changes or anyone cares is if it was a foreign terrorist that did it vs. a domestic one.
    Oct 2, 2017 7:17 AM - Bill Monroe: you've got everything all figured out, dont ya?
    Oct 2, 2017 7:18 AM - daniel871: Pretty much. We literally had a classroom full of 1st graders get massacred in 2012 by a mentally ill person and that still didn't result in getting mental health care systems better funding.
    Oct 2, 2017 7:19 AM - daniel871: Also, we have actual Nazis holding rallies around the country, but the people that show up to oppose them are the ones that get put on terrorist watch lists.
    Oct 2, 2017 7:19 AM - daniel871: (unlike, say, Sweden, where the local police joined the Antifa protesters that showed up there and beat the holy shit out of the Nazis and drove them out of the town the rally took place in)
    Oct 2, 2017 7:23 AM - daniel871: Meanwhile, people get upset over NFL players kneeling to protest the way police were murdering black war veterans on the advice of veteran Green Berets they talked to about it, but the Shithead-in-Chief thinks it's about the flag and anthem.
    Oct 2, 2017 7:49 AM - daniel871: Anyway.
    Oct 2, 2017 7:49 AM - daniel871: https://vtt.tumblr.com/tumblr_owvixpZBTr1sklwwv_480.mp4#_=_
    Oct 2, 2017 8:15 AM - daniel871: Crackin' out a PETG Marvin with adjusted retraction settings on the Mini Delta.
    Oct 2, 2017 10:49 AM - daniel871: Printing a tiny vase rocket now because I haven't printed a vase anything with it yet.
    Oct 2, 2017 5:53 PM - daniel871: Well, the Makergeeks Transition spool is a pinkish Raptor PLA spool. Nice, haven't tried that yet.
    Oct 2, 2017 6:57 PM - daniel871: I'll try the Raptor PLA after finishing out the PETG on it now.
     
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    Oct 3, 2017 at 6:14 AM - Geof: Daniel, I have that makergeeks raptor. I havent had a chance to dial it in. Shoot me a DM when you get to testing I'd love to hear some of your settings :D
    Oct 3, 2017 at 12:06 PM - danzca6:
    Oct 3, 2017 at 12:06 PM - danzca6:
    Oct 3, 2017 at 12:07 PM - danzca6: Probably two of the best interviews with Josef Prusa about the MK3
    Oct 3, 2017 at 12:42 PM - daniel871: I love how it just immediately homed out, reheated to what it was doing before power failure and just started back up without waiting for interaction from anybody.
    Oct 3, 2017 at 12:44 PM - danzca6: I know right? very cool...and seeing Tom just man handle the x carriage and it homes itself and prints away again as if nothing ever happened
    Oct 3, 2017 at 12:45 PM - danzca6: One thing I haven't heard from Prusa is how it handles itself with a long term power outage. Once it all cools down does the part stay adhered?
    Oct 3, 2017 at 12:47 PM - daniel871: I figure if you have that long a power outage you have bigger problems. :p
    Oct 3, 2017 at 1:40 PM - sgomes: @danzca6: I suspect that would depend on the plastic.
    Oct 3, 2017 at 1:40 PM - sgomes: But for longer failures the machine asks the user whether they want to resume
    Oct 3, 2017 at 2:57 PM - danzca6: true and yes I think you always have the choice. I just know when the glass plate on my R1 gets to 20C the part just pops off
    Oct 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM - danzca6: I know he is using powder coated spring steel with PEI so not sure if it will hold better when cooled down or not
    Oct 3, 2017 at 4:26 PM - jim3Dbot: Good Observation Danz....
     
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    Oct 4, 2017 4:11 AM - Hanover: I saw Tom's video last night. I ended up ordering an MK3 to replace my R1+.
    Oct 4, 2017 5:04 AM - Geof: Danz the PEI on my MK2 holds most things just fine. ABS tends to pop off when cooled down but most everthing else stays put.
    Oct 4, 2017 5:08 AM - Geof: hanover- between my mk2 and a well tuned R1+ I see very little difference in both quality and reliability these days, might want to hang onto the R1+ :D
    Oct 4, 2017 5:08 AM - Geof: never hurts to have more than 1 printer;)
    Oct 4, 2017 5:31 AM - danzca6: amen
    Oct 4, 2017 5:32 AM - danzca6: I guess I technically have 2 now, but not sure how long my lil adoptabot will stay with us
    Oct 4, 2017 5:38 AM - Zia Lennard: Please vote for 3DP startup Lithoz to win this EU innovation award - The leading company in additive manufacturing of ceramics in Europe is up for an innovation award and I ask you all to please support them by voting! It will literally take 2 seconds, just click this link and press the "vote" button. THANK YOU KINDLY :) https://ec.europa.eu/futurium/en/best-young-sme/lithoz
    Oct 4, 2017 5:39 AM - daniel871: No. Innovation awards should be based on merit, not voting campaigns.
    Oct 4, 2017 5:39 AM - daniel871: Especially not voting campaigns open to a public vote. That's just asking for idiot results.
    Oct 4, 2017 5:51 AM - daniel871: Posted an update with a mini-case study on a useful purpose for the printer other than artistic tchotchke stuff.
    Oct 4, 2017 6:21 AM - Geof: Always a real life use, even that small :D
    Oct 4, 2017 6:43 AM - Hanover: I already have an MK2, R1+ and an R2. :) I caught the Maker's bug. Wish I could buy stock in Adafruit. ;)
    Oct 4, 2017 6:45 AM - Hanover: My plan is for four printers, but I want one of them to be a large volume printer. I'm not really sure what I'll do with the R1+ yet. I just know the MK3 will be going where the R1+ is now.
    Oct 4, 2017 6:45 AM - daniel871: This mini delta lacks some of the MK3 features, but it's the closest I've gotten to "just works" in a purchased printer with no modifications since being in the hobby since 2015.
    Oct 4, 2017 6:46 AM - daniel871: The large format needs to be one of the CR-10S printers sold by Printed Solid.
    Oct 4, 2017 6:46 AM - Geof: Hanover you can always send it to me buddy ;). MK3 is going to be a good unit.
    Oct 4, 2017 6:46 AM - Geof: 100% agree Daniel. I have upgraded my original CR10 to the one like Matt sells and its doing quite well now.
    Oct 4, 2017 6:46 AM - Hanover: Thats what I'm looking at.
    Oct 4, 2017 6:47 AM - daniel871: What is the large format Zortrax build space again? Maybe save up for that one if you really want a nice machine.
    Oct 4, 2017 6:49 AM - daniel871: Oh, it's only 300mm cube.
    Oct 4, 2017 6:49 AM - daniel871: N/m.
    Oct 4, 2017 6:49 AM - Geof: yup. And expensive lol. I love all my 200s, but havent sprung for a 300 yet.
    Oct 4, 2017 6:49 AM - Geof: having someone like Matt to buy a CR10 makes it a no brainer for me at this point, before that it was still a china machine. Still expect things to fail early on but cheaply fixed.
    Oct 4, 2017 6:56 AM - daniel871: Don't you just love it when you're working on a large assembly in Solidworks to edit a design on the network and you get "Device name no longer available" when trying to save?
    Oct 4, 2017 6:56 AM - daniel871: Not a huge issue. Just save the assembly locally on the desktop, then save again where it's supposed to go, but still a hassle.
    Oct 4, 2017 6:57 AM - daniel871: Also potentially a tremendous pain if Solidworks decides to crash when that error happens.
    Oct 4, 2017 6:59 AM - Geof: :D you should see the nightmare that is fusion when it decides to crash out lol
    Oct 4, 2017 7:00 AM - Hanover: Been there, done that.
    Oct 4, 2017 7:00 AM - Hanover: Save often.
    Oct 4, 2017 7:01 AM - daniel871: I save whenever I finish making a substantial change, but sometimes you really don't want an autosave interrupting you mid-sketch and booting you out while in the middle of typing an equation in it.
    Oct 4, 2017 7:02 AM - daniel871: (because of the full minute of Solidworks panicking about an incomplete equation and the cascading failure to rebuild the model)
    Oct 4, 2017 7:08 AM - Hanover: Never cross the splines.
    Oct 4, 2017 7:21 AM - Geof: "who ya gonna call" lol
    Oct 4, 2017 7:46 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Oct 4, 2017 7:53 AM - daniel871: Not sure if this link will work or not, but it's a clip of the delta sounding like it's playing music of some kind.
    Oct 4, 2017 8:04 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Oct 4, 2017 10:48 AM - danzca6: Registration is open for MRRF 2018 https://www.eventbrite.com/e/2018-midwest-reprap-festival-registration-38591937524
    Oct 4, 2017 1:36 PM - daniel871: Gonna Vase Mode Pyramid 5 from this Thing next: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1356547
    Oct 4, 2017 1:58 PM - daniel871: I also have a Pyramid6 scaled to fit on the platform but I'm less confident in it finishing because I don't think it will actually have a full cross-section everywhere. Preview looked like it would print but it's hard to tell if there are any gaps with that fractal pattern messing with your eyes.
    Oct 4, 2017 2:06 PM - daniel871: Image of the scaled Pyramid6 preview for reference: [​IMG]
     
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    Oct 4, 2017 10:58 PM - WheresWaldo: Dan I tried slicing this with S3Dv4 and it just crashed S3D https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2446212
    Oct 5, 2017 3:56 AM - daniel871: Yeah, the build space on the mini delta is small enough that the Pyramid6 appears to be pushing the limit of what it can do.
    Oct 5, 2017 3:56 AM - daniel871: I don't think I'll attempt the super-fractal.
    Oct 5, 2017 3:58 AM - daniel871: Progress so far: [​IMG]
    Oct 5, 2017 5:12 AM - Geof: lookin good!
    Oct 5, 2017 5:13 AM - daniel871: It's been pretty funny seeing peoples' brains at work crash and reboot when they stare at it trying to figure out what they're looking at.
    Oct 5, 2017 5:22 AM - Geof: lol :D its amazing how "normal" it is for us but how "scifi" it is for people that have never seen it before
    Oct 5, 2017 5:25 AM - daniel871: I meant more for the fractal pyramid aspect, but that too.
    Oct 5, 2017 5:48 AM - Geof: typically when people come to the shop their suprised by the amount and that stuff is moving lol. seem to forget something is being made 90% of the time lol
    Oct 5, 2017 6:46 AM - daniel871: Did that video link that I posted yesterday work for anybody?
    Oct 5, 2017 6:50 AM - daniel871: Here's another: https://www.facebook.com/groups/mpminideltaowners/permalink/1913290558686421/
    Oct 5, 2017 7:20 AM - Geof: its an interesting machine. Will be curious how it holds up to your testing
    Oct 5, 2017 7:30 AM - daniel871: I'm just impressed that there's not been a single printing-failure yet that was the fault of the initial setup. One failure due to a bad spot in a spool, a bit of hassle getting an SD card formatted correctly for it. But slicing and printing itself has just been load-and-go.
    Oct 5, 2017 7:56 AM - Geof: that is slightly impressive on a machine like that
    Oct 5, 2017 7:56 AM - Geof: expecially that cheap. In reality my startt has been pretty solid. Only downside to that one is its a kit. I think yours is the cheapest assembled I've seen
    Oct 5, 2017 8:37 AM - daniel871: I've seen a lot of comparisons being made to the 101Hero debacle and this.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:37 AM - Dan: Hey guys
    Oct 5, 2017 8:37 AM - Dan: Any of you need any assistance with your Robo printers?
    Oct 5, 2017 8:38 AM - Geof: Hello Danrw. so far so good. Who are you :D
    Oct 5, 2017 8:38 AM - daniel871: Nah, I shitcanned my Robo printers back in 2016. Mostly post about general 3d printing stuff here.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:39 AM - daniel871: I suspect they were just drawing attention to Braydon being online, Geof, not volunteering to help.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:39 AM - Geof: I dont think so, showing admin
    Oct 5, 2017 8:40 AM - Geof: hey Daniel! That brings up a solid question! Any of those parts scurrying around the bin still?
    Oct 5, 2017 8:40 AM - Dan: I'm an engineer, and the new supervisor of our up and coming tech support department at Robo
    Oct 5, 2017 8:40 AM - Geof: very cool. Was curious when I saw the admin rights :D. Nice to meet you.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:41 AM - daniel871: I still have some X-carriage parts and all of the rods and a spare bed with heater upgrade on it that I was going to use in another 3d printer build.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:41 AM - Dan: I'm here with Braydon atm
    Oct 5, 2017 8:41 AM - Dan: Thanks, nice to meet you too
    Oct 5, 2017 8:41 AM - Geof: Hello to Braydon!
    Oct 5, 2017 8:41 AM - Dan: Do any of you need anything? Help, parts, ettc?
    Oct 5, 2017 8:41 AM - Dan: He says "whatup Geof!!"
    Oct 5, 2017 8:41 AM - daniel871: It would probably be best to just look at the unresolved Troubleshooting threads for answers to that.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:42 AM - Geof: I dont think there are any unresponded to troubleshooting threads atm, introduction post though :D
    Oct 5, 2017 8:42 AM - daniel871: That would be why I said "Unresolved". :p
    Oct 5, 2017 8:43 AM - Dan: I just finished a pretty sweet model of an enclosurer for a raspi attached to a 5in touchscreen (took it from an R2) that attaches to the R1+. Printing it up now
    Oct 5, 2017 8:43 AM - daniel871: Since most of the troubleshooting support seen around here is other community members spitballing vs. official Robo support.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:43 AM - Geof: Did you see @marktomlinsons post doing the same?
    Oct 5, 2017 8:43 AM - Geof: :eek: spitballing! you'll hurt my feelings daniel ;)
    Oct 5, 2017 8:44 AM - Dan: thanks daniel, I've been combing through it. I was just asking those of you in the chat ;)
    Oct 5, 2017 8:45 AM - Geof: @danrw http://community.robo3d.com/index.p...roller-modification-for-the-beta-r1-r1.17834/
    Oct 5, 2017 8:45 AM - Dan: let me show you mine ;)
    Oct 5, 2017 8:46 AM - Geof: ready :D
    Oct 5, 2017 8:46 AM - Bill Monroe: (covering eyes)
    Oct 5, 2017 8:48 AM - Dan: [​IMG]
    Oct 5, 2017 8:48 AM - Dan: Whoops
    Oct 5, 2017 8:48 AM - Dan: https://imgur.com/KYXIVtw
    Oct 5, 2017 8:48 AM - Dan: https://imgur.com/iVjLEJq
    Oct 5, 2017 8:49 AM - mark tomlinson: In all fairness I just stole the one I used from THingiverse :)
    Oct 5, 2017 8:49 AM - Dan: Good work Mark.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:49 AM - Dan: Oh you didn't do it yourself? blah
    Oct 5, 2017 8:49 AM - mark tomlinson: :)
    Oct 5, 2017 8:49 AM - mark tomlinson: We were in a hurry ... yours certainly looks better.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:49 AM - Dan: What do you think of mine? I was considering making the front plate customizable
    Oct 5, 2017 8:50 AM - Dan: Thank's
    Oct 5, 2017 8:50 AM - mark tomlinson: I can reprint them ;)
    Oct 5, 2017 8:51 AM - Dan: I also ade a camera clip for the C2 that attaches to the inside of the front bezzle, snug up against the corner, and it points the webcam (again, I stole one from an R2) perfectly at the print
    Oct 5, 2017 8:51 AM - daniel871: I'd like to see it actually printed. Renderings are largely misleading until you actually print the thing and figure out what can and can't be printed while looking good.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:51 AM - daniel871: (as far as orientation while printing, etc.)
    Oct 5, 2017 8:52 AM - Geof: Hey Bill you can uncover now lol
    Oct 5, 2017 8:52 AM - Dan: Hang on, let me check if the print is done and I will take a photo
    Oct 5, 2017 8:52 AM - Bill Monroe: ok so, I peeked between my fingers once
    Oct 5, 2017 8:53 AM - Geof: lol I cant blame ay
    Oct 5, 2017 8:53 AM - Geof: ya*** how you doin bill.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:54 AM - Bill Monroe: i'm good.. spending money :)
    Oct 5, 2017 8:54 AM - daniel871: LOL at the censorship.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:54 AM - Geof: lol. :D :p
    Oct 5, 2017 8:55 AM - Dan: It isn't finished yet. It's not just a rendering, I designed it to be printable. Successfully ;) trust me
    Oct 5, 2017 8:56 AM - daniel871: Listen, if there is one thing about dans I know is that we're not to be trusted.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:56 AM - Geof: Will wait for the thread on the modification! :D will you be including a SD image for the Pi?
    Oct 5, 2017 8:56 AM - Geof: LMAO daniel I think that just made my day.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:57 AM - Dan: Haha. Ain't gonna knock my hustle
    Oct 5, 2017 8:57 AM - daniel871: The SD image is tricky because you have to define network settings yourself for your particular network and a lot of the headache some folks have setting that up is why it ends up being a non-starter.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:57 AM - daniel871: Would be sweet if Octopi had an ad-hoc network setup option so it was it's own network/device.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:58 AM - daniel871: Limits it to local access and usage but that's 99% of what you use it for anyway.
    Oct 5, 2017 8:58 AM - Dan: Geof - sure, I could do that. When customers need a new OS for thier C2 or R2 (if they encounter a white screen for example) I am the one who creates the custom image for you guys
    Oct 5, 2017 8:59 AM - Geof: That would be good for the people new to rpi
    Oct 5, 2017 8:59 AM - Dan: So, lets just say there are a number of fellow employee's printers with some pretty funny names around here.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:00 AM - Geof: lol I bet. Gotta have fun with it.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:00 AM - Geof: Daniel that would be nice but I dont think they'll (octo) make that happen
    Oct 5, 2017 9:00 AM - Geof: to much...issue possible
    Oct 5, 2017 9:00 AM - Dan: Ok cool. I'd love to hear any other suggestions you guys might have. I want to make sure you guys are taken care of, and voices heard.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:01 AM - Dan: Geof - with some of them I may be borderline HR offensive ha
    Oct 5, 2017 9:01 AM - Geof: thats just part of the job I think :)
    Oct 5, 2017 9:02 AM - daniel871: Printer name "So-and-so's cavernous anus"? I've seen that one on the local work wifi.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:02 AM - Dan: Now... if I could just figure out how to change my username here lol
    Oct 5, 2017 9:03 AM - Dan: either of you want an image with a custom name?
    Oct 5, 2017 9:03 AM - daniel871: The funny thing is that was a device connected to the network, not an access point, so you only saw it if you ran a broader network search looking for documents related to work and it found it.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:04 AM - Geof: Dan you may be able to go into your profile and change your username. Not really sure. Might ping @marktomlinson
    Oct 5, 2017 9:04 AM - daniel871: "Wait a minute, what server are these copies of drawings on?" *goes up a few levels* "Oh!"
    Oct 5, 2017 9:04 AM - Geof: He has a different rights than I do as moderator
    Oct 5, 2017 9:05 AM - WheresWaldo: Afternoon all.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:05 AM - Bill Monroe: Waldo
    Oct 5, 2017 9:06 AM - WheresWaldo: Bill
    Oct 5, 2017 9:06 AM - WheresWaldo: Anything shakin'
    Oct 5, 2017 9:06 AM - Bill Monroe: just 2.0
    Oct 5, 2017 9:07 AM - WheresWaldo: :D
    Oct 5, 2017 9:07 AM - Dan: Geof - I think I prob have to do it in the admin panel
    Oct 5, 2017 9:07 AM - Dan: Hi Waldo. Nice to finally meet you. I've read a lot of your posts
    Oct 5, 2017 9:08 AM - WheresWaldo: I hope you enjoyed them.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:08 AM - Dan: Ahhh, Geof, you are moderator
     
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    Oct 5, 2017 9:08 AM - Dan: What Robo's do you have?
    Oct 5, 2017 9:08 AM - daniel871: *Volunteer* moderator. Must need reasons to imbibe more alcohol.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:08 AM - WheresWaldo: Was that directed a Geof?
    Oct 5, 2017 9:09 AM - Dan: Yeah, but I'd like to hear from all of you
    Oct 5, 2017 9:10 AM - WheresWaldo: Yeah Geof picked that name for himself.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:10 AM - WheresWaldo: R1, R2 plus an LCD Resin and a OS Gantry printer
    Oct 5, 2017 9:11 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof, could write a paragraph on all his printers and just scratch the surface.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:12 AM - mark tomlinson: 2 R1+ equivalents (they started as betas) C2, SeeMeCNC Delta (12x48 inch print volume) and an home made DLP (well, a laser etcher too, but that is not a printer)
    Oct 5, 2017 9:13 AM - daniel871: Had an R1 & R1+, currently doing 99% of my printing on a Monoprice Maker Select V2.1 and Monoprice Mini Delta. Eyeballing an MK3 for next year depending on my expenses after getting my tax refund for doing payroll deductions as single/zero and filing single/1.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:14 AM - daniel871: Also depending on how much damage Hurricane Nate does when it makes it's way up here early next week.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:15 AM - daniel871: F-ing hurricanes.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:19 AM - Geof: lol I have 2 R1+, 8 zortrax m200, bcn sigma, ultimaker original, ultimaker 2extended+, type A series one pro, CR10, Wanaho D7, stacker 500s, gmax 1.5xt, prusa mk2, chinese delta, ditto pro and some others kickin around :D
    Oct 5, 2017 9:20 AM - mark tomlinson: 2 many... Like rabbits they breed.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:20 AM - Geof: lol! Didn't we just talk about this...is there such thing as 2 many? ;)
    Oct 5, 2017 9:21 AM - daniel871: Thomas Sanladerer just posted a video about the BCN Sigma X, haven't watched the whole thing to see how he compares it to the R17 though.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:21 AM - mark tomlinson: If so, you will implode first/ I have my eyes on you
    Oct 5, 2017 9:21 AM - Geof: lol that is very possible.... :D
    Oct 5, 2017 9:22 AM - Geof: Daniel Sigmax is just a enlarged in the X R17 with copy mode written into the firmware.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:22 AM - Geof: I heard designbox3d will carry for 4200 US.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:22 AM - daniel871: Copy/Mirror or just copy?
    Oct 5, 2017 9:22 AM - Geof: not sure thats a hard fast number yet or not.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:22 AM - Geof: Copy/Mirror
    Oct 5, 2017 9:22 AM - daniel871: Sounds like a headache.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:23 AM - daniel871: Countdown 'til someone tries to do a dual-color copy/mirror at the same time.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:23 AM - Geof: My sigma had hella problems (1st gen) but is good now. I imagine the sigmax will do better but will again have software issues at the start
    Oct 5, 2017 9:23 AM - Geof: wont work :D
    Oct 5, 2017 9:24 AM - daniel871: Seems like a helluva thing to overlook when doing the coding, because you know someone will want to do it.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:24 AM - daniel871: And it will totally work. It just won't save you any actual printing time over modeling it that way to begin with.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:24 AM - Geof: I believe if chose copy/mirror it just locks ext 1 and ext 2 at min position on x (pretends like its a single extruder like the stacker) and mirrors or mimmiks
    Oct 5, 2017 9:25 AM - Geof: Efficient for production until a fail. I perfer to run multiple machines 1 up or a few up depending on size vs one machine running 4 up. Stacker sits in the corner for this reason :D
    Oct 5, 2017 9:25 AM - Dan: I've got a working version of the dual extruder on one of my R2's here
    Oct 5, 2017 9:26 AM - daniel871: So it's a hackjob, the promo image I saw about it acted like each extruder would be printing it's assigned part in the assigned printing area.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:26 AM - Geof: negative. cant do part A on the left side and a tree frog on the right. has to have the same layers/time/zmoves
    Oct 5, 2017 9:27 AM - daniel871: I know, still talking about Copy/Mirror.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:27 AM - Geof: Its really just ext 1 is copied by ext 2 though the mirror works due to the idex.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:27 AM - Geof: but same issues with z :D
    Oct 5, 2017 9:27 AM - Geof: Danrw would be interested to see a picture of that set up.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:28 AM - daniel871: Also is anyone that has been in hobby 3d printing since 2013 really that excited about dual hotends when better solutions are out there?
    Oct 5, 2017 9:28 AM - Geof: heard rumor of a active/inactive toolhead similar to UM 3. Is this true? Or the old way of 2 solid mounted extruders on one carriage?
    Oct 5, 2017 9:28 AM - Geof: Depends on the client Daniel :D. I can paint faster than I can dual print but some people WANT 2 color. Some people dont care, some people NEED 2 materials.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:29 AM - Geof: I personally love my sigma with a .4 nozzle on one ext and a 1.0 on the other. 1.0 does infill :D
    Oct 5, 2017 9:29 AM - Geof: amazing time saver even with the extruder home dance.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:29 AM - daniel871: Geof's question is better, because if it's the latter that's a huge headache for any client vs. the multi-plex/multi-input solutions on a single hotend.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:30 AM - daniel871: I've just been using the option in S3D that combines infill every 3 layers on the same hotend. When the hotend has a 0.8mm nozzle this gets pretty nuts.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:30 AM - Dan: When Allen gets in the office I want to run it by him before I share any pics.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:31 AM - Geof: but we are impatient :D get that man on the phone
    Oct 5, 2017 9:31 AM - daniel871: Wasn't Braydon around just a minute ago? Yell at him about it.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:32 AM - Geof: lol see! Impatient! :D
    Oct 5, 2017 9:32 AM - daniel871: Ignore the parenthetical question behind that one (who TF is this Allen?).
    Oct 5, 2017 9:32 AM - Dan: Have any of you got a Simplify 3D profile that you consider as the best?
    Oct 5, 2017 9:32 AM - Dan: Allen McAfee. He's our VP of Engineering, and the R2 and C2 are his babies lol
    Oct 5, 2017 9:33 AM - daniel871: The one I'm using for my delta so far is pretty sweet, but I don't think any of the Robo printers can handle the speeds that runs.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:33 AM - daniel871: He's the reason development for something that was supposed to launch in 2014 dragged out to 2017?
    Oct 5, 2017 9:34 AM - Geof: All mine run wierd profiles. Mark or waldo may have a r2 and c2 profile.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:34 AM - Geof: I think ed furguson posted his .fff in the r2 section
    Oct 5, 2017 9:34 AM - daniel871: Also yeah, I'm pretty sure no two people with still-running Robo profiles for S3D have identical profiles.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:35 AM - WheresWaldo: I tweaked Ed's profile a bit there were things I didn't like about his.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:35 AM - daniel871: If you're talking R1/R1+. The C2/R2 might be easier to streamline since it copies a more mechanically rigid design.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:37 AM - WheresWaldo: His R2 profile over-extruded the bottom layer and was just too slow. A couple of tweaks to the JERK and ACCELERATION numbers fixed all the stuff he was doing in post processing.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:37 AM - Geof: Is he running your .fff now? He may appreciate the faster speeds?
    Oct 5, 2017 9:37 AM - daniel871: Did Joel Telling ever post an actual review of the R2 or is he still fighting heat creep issues?
    Oct 5, 2017 9:38 AM - WheresWaldo: I posted it in that same thread, whether he is using it or not I don't know. Plus mine depends on tweaking the firmware values.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:38 AM - Geof: True didn't think about that.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:38 AM - Geof: I dont think I've heard of a review yet Daniel. Heatcreep seems to be besting him right now.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:39 AM - daniel871: He might get somewhere if he'd ditch that stupid coin model and print something in a material other than PLA.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:40 AM - daniel871: Honestly, printing nothing but different colors of PLA on that machine is a waste of time testing-wise. It's a mostly-enclosed print area. Throw some ABS at it!
    Oct 5, 2017 9:41 AM - Dan: Waldo, would you mind sending your S3D profiles to me? C2 R2 R1 if you have them? I'd love to check them out
    Oct 5, 2017 9:41 AM - WheresWaldo: There are a lot of things that just seem to stump Joel. I rarely watch his videos anymore. He is tiring to watch.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:41 AM - WheresWaldo: Sure, I'll send you a PM
    Oct 5, 2017 9:41 AM - Dan: Waldo, I asked these guys before you arrived, so I'll ask you too. Do you need anything from us? Any parts?
    Oct 5, 2017 9:41 AM - Dan: Waldo
    Oct 5, 2017 9:42 AM - Dan: Or email if you prefer
    Oct 5, 2017 9:42 AM - Dan: dan@robo3d.com
    Oct 5, 2017 9:43 AM - daniel871: I got a little irritated with all of the Youtube 3d printing personalities while TCT was going on. None of them went to check out the Monoprice booth where they were showcasing the things being brought to Europe while they expand there. They supposedly had both the mini delta I have now and the mythical cartesian printer they were teasing here in the US on display.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:43 AM - WheresWaldo: I was going to write a fanless power supply, that is almost as noisy as the 25 mm fan on the shroud. But honestly all I really need at this point is the actual 3D model of the fan shroud to make modification easier.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:44 AM - daniel871: Switching to blower-style fans instead of the flat case fans is a popular mod I'm seeing on other printers lately. Is there room to set up something like that?
    Oct 5, 2017 9:45 AM - Geof: Daniel Monoprice doesn't give them free stuff so no attention lol
    Oct 5, 2017 9:45 AM - daniel871: LOL.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:45 AM - daniel871: Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:46 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan, There is if you model it correctly, I just don't have time to reverse engineer the existing shroud so I can modify it
    Oct 5, 2017 9:49 AM - WheresWaldo: Robo_Dan email sent with my current S3Dv4 profile for the R2. It is faster than Ed's, and the other tweaks I already mentioned.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:49 AM - Dan: Waldo, I made a 3rd revision of the fan duct for C2/R2 that now uses the existing screws
    Oct 5, 2017 9:49 AM - Geof: 25mm fan or 30mm?
    Oct 5, 2017 9:50 AM - WheresWaldo: What I want it the actual 3D model, I don't care what it was created in just not the STL or OBJ file. Too hard to modify the MESH files.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:51 AM - WheresWaldo: I bet its sill 25 mm. Thos are screamers, and they fail often, and they don't blow enough air, should I go on.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:51 AM - Dan: Waldo, our Canadian power supplies are a solid brick. No fans. Silent, so I ordered a few of them for 110. They cost us signifantly more than the original
    Oct 5, 2017 9:52 AM - WheresWaldo: I am just thinking I am going to pull the fan out of this power supply and replace it with a Noctua or similar.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:52 AM - Dan: Geof, Waldo, its the entire housing. You have to get the magnets off behind the robo plate and glue them into this. It is the whole assembly. 2x25mm and 1x30mm
    Oct 5, 2017 9:53 AM - WheresWaldo: danrw, for the love of life try not to use any 25 mm fans.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:53 AM - Dan: Hang on, I'll send a photo. I made the duct on the right side closer to the hotend so it has perfect even flow
    Oct 5, 2017 9:53 AM - Geof: Danrw can you step the 25s up to 30s :D
    Oct 5, 2017 9:53 AM - Geof: lol! Waldo and I are on the same page :D
    Oct 5, 2017 9:53 AM - Dan: Hrmmm.... I didn't think of that..
    Oct 5, 2017 9:53 AM - Geof: the 25s are so loud :( and fail often :D
    Oct 5, 2017 9:54 AM - Dan: The 30 behind the hotend I think is louder
    Oct 5, 2017 9:54 AM - WheresWaldo: There is enough room on the back side for a 30 mm, if the fans are angled there is actually enough room for 40 mm, but there is one issue at least that I have noticed...
    Oct 5, 2017 9:55 AM - WheresWaldo: The fan on the back is a 25 x 7
    Oct 5, 2017 9:55 AM - Dan: Waldo, did you see the raspi+5in screen R1 housing I made yesterday?
    Oct 5, 2017 9:56 AM - WheresWaldo: I wouldn't know where to look.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:56 AM - Dan: I'm sorry. I misunderstood you guys
     
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    Oct 5, 2017 9:56 AM - WheresWaldo: I use a rPi on my R1 headless
    Oct 5, 2017 9:57 AM - Dan: So, how do you want me to revise the fan duct? It currently has 25 in rear,x30 on ducts.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:57 AM - Dan: On my printer I have 30x3, but haven't noticed any difference.
    Oct 5, 2017 9:57 AM - Geof: havent noticed any difference in sound or with heatcreep?
    Oct 5, 2017 9:57 AM - WheresWaldo: Two things, change the rear to a 30, so it is 3 30 mm fans. Second, release the actual 3D model
    Oct 5, 2017 9:58 AM - Dan: https://imgur.com/KYXIVtw
    Oct 5, 2017 9:58 AM - Dan: https://imgur.com/iVjLEJq
    Oct 5, 2017 9:58 AM - WheresWaldo: danrw, that is nice looking
    Oct 5, 2017 9:59 AM - Dan: Prints perfectly with support everywhere. I am printing a second one now. I gave the first one to one of my warehouse techs to take home yesterday
    Oct 5, 2017 9:59 AM - WheresWaldo: If I had a screen on my R1 attached rPi that could certainly do the job.
    Oct 5, 2017 10:01 AM - Dan: I told the guys before you arrived, I am an engineer, as well as the new supervisor of customer service and our new (in-progress, I'm interviewing) tech support department.
    Oct 5, 2017 10:02 AM - Dan: Alright guys. I will modify the design and make the 3x30 for you and certainly release the file to you
    Oct 5, 2017 10:02 AM - Geof: That would be awesome, thanks!
    Oct 5, 2017 10:02 AM - WheresWaldo: The file is all I needed, but I think a lot of people that might have any issues with heat creep might benefit from the increased fan size.
    Oct 5, 2017 10:03 AM - WheresWaldo: danrw, who is responsible for the extruder design, I see a lot of inspiration coming from Ultimaker.
    Oct 5, 2017 10:05 AM - Dan: Jason is the frontman on that one
    Oct 5, 2017 10:05 AM - Dan: https://imgur.com/kvoBaON
    Oct 5, 2017 10:05 AM - Dan: https://imgur.com/teu0snS
    Oct 5, 2017 10:05 AM - WheresWaldo: Yep that would be the one. What do you guys use to create the models?
    Oct 5, 2017 10:07 AM - Dan: I created this in Fusion 360
    Oct 5, 2017 10:07 AM - Dan: Jason uses solidworks, fusion, etc
    Oct 5, 2017 10:08 AM - mark tomlinson: We use SW mostly, but have been using Fusion more of late to use teh CAM plugin
    Oct 5, 2017 10:09 AM - WheresWaldo: Do you also use A360. Because you can share the model that way, even requiring a password to download if you need to. I use F360 and share designs that way. Also F360 can import SW parts.
    Oct 5, 2017 10:11 AM - Geof: Do you know why it was decided to go with a Ultimaker 2 set up vs the 2+ or 3?
    Oct 5, 2017 10:11 AM - Geof: (talking the positioning and directing of the air from the part fans)
    Oct 5, 2017 10:17 AM - Dan: Honestly, I felt that this design gave me the best results
    Oct 5, 2017 10:18 AM - Dan: I do not have A360, and I just looked at it, and looks like I can get a 30 day trial..
    Oct 5, 2017 10:18 AM - Geof: really? Most people with UM (granted different hotend) prefer (myself included) the + setup vs the 2 set up. Less resistance on the flow
    Oct 5, 2017 10:18 AM - Dan: Waldo, are you asking for the STL of the model? Or the original...?
    Oct 5, 2017 10:18 AM - Geof: If you personally dont make more than 100k a year you can sign up as a hobbyist/entrepenuer :D lol kinda skirt the system if Robo doens't supply it
    Oct 5, 2017 10:19 AM - Dan: Geof, can you give me a visual on your comparison so I have something to look at?
    Oct 5, 2017 10:19 AM - Geof: The original model is what he is after where he can modify whats existing.
    Oct 5, 2017 10:19 AM - Dan: Also, Geoff, what Robo's did you say you had?
    Oct 5, 2017 10:19 AM - Geof: yes will email you my fan shroud and a pic of a standard 2 fanshroud
    Oct 5, 2017 10:19 AM - Geof: 2 R1+
    Oct 5, 2017 10:20 AM - Dan: Hrmm... Yeah you know what, I will release that to you guys. On one condition though.
    Oct 5, 2017 10:20 AM - Dan: Geoff - include your notes in the email so I know what I'm looking at
    Oct 5, 2017 10:20 AM - Geof: will do.
    Oct 5, 2017 10:27 AM - WheresWaldo: What did I miss?
    Oct 5, 2017 10:30 AM - Geof: talkin about why those chose a UM 2 fan set up like system vs a 2+ or 3
    Oct 5, 2017 10:32 AM - WheresWaldo: Yeah, but it is just enough different that you can't use a UM2 fan shroud.
    Oct 5, 2017 10:34 AM - WheresWaldo: Speaking of 3D models, Jerry menmtioned to me that Robo is working on a replacement for the camera mount to fix the 10å tilt,.
    Oct 5, 2017 10:34 AM - WheresWaldo: 10°
    Oct 5, 2017 10:35 AM - Geof: No but not restricting the airflow may be helpful :D (the curve features seem quite odd)
    Oct 5, 2017 10:44 AM - Dan: Waldo, Jerry just got back from visiting my brother in Germany, literally walked in minutes ago. I'll ask him. But if you want to let me know what change you want to it, I'll do it and send you the model
    Oct 5, 2017 10:46 AM - Dan: Geof -- are you on this forum quite a bit? every so often or daily?
    Oct 5, 2017 10:46 AM - WheresWaldo: Most of us admins are here everyday
    Oct 5, 2017 10:46 AM - WheresWaldo: Just not always in the Shoutbox.
    Oct 5, 2017 10:47 AM - Geof: Yea pretty well daily lol. Weekends are hit and miss but at least a few times a day
    Oct 5, 2017 10:48 AM - WheresWaldo: Jerry mentioned twisting the mount a bit so that camera isn't tilted 10°, something printable. Apparently the tilt was unintentional.
    Oct 5, 2017 10:51 AM - WheresWaldo: Whoever did the CSS transform was clever, it solves the tilted image on the web interface, but timelapses are all tilted. only thing you can do to fix that is level the camera.
    Oct 5, 2017 10:51 AM - Geof: or tilt your head ;)
    Oct 5, 2017 10:54 AM - mark tomlinson: <oh, my>
    Oct 5, 2017 10:54 AM - mark tomlinson: Good to think outside the box :)
    Oct 5, 2017 10:55 AM - Geof: lol I was gonna say tilt the desk but it'd be hard to do it without laughing
    Oct 5, 2017 11:02 AM - daniel871: Aw, the Robo staff are gone. I was going to say they need to add support for GIFV to the forum. http://i.imgur.com/WWTQiWn.gifv
    Oct 5, 2017 11:09 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan where is the pyrimid print?
    Oct 5, 2017 11:12 AM - daniel871: Getting there.
    Oct 5, 2017 11:13 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Oct 5, 2017 11:13 AM - daniel871: Doesn't look quite as good when blown up in an image like that vs. looking at it in person.
    Oct 5, 2017 11:13 AM - WheresWaldo: I could slice #6 but the ultra Pyramid hard locked S3D
    Oct 5, 2017 11:15 AM - daniel871: Well, it's a 188MB model.
    Oct 5, 2017 11:15 AM - WheresWaldo: 8-cores/16 threads 32GB DDR4 so the size for the PC wasn't an issue
    Oct 5, 2017 11:15 AM - daniel871: What would be cool is somehow slicing it at full scale so that the object ran right up to the boundaries of the build diameter, building only what fit inside the build plate.
    Oct 5, 2017 11:16 AM - daniel871: So a cylinder of fractal pyramids up to whatever height where it finally becomes a pyramid tip.
    Oct 5, 2017 11:16 AM - WheresWaldo: You mean like some sort of auto cutoff.
    Oct 5, 2017 11:16 AM - daniel871: Yeah.
    Oct 5, 2017 11:16 AM - daniel871: May be a feature I haven't looked for.
    Oct 5, 2017 11:17 AM - WheresWaldo: If anyone does that, it will likely be Prusa first.
    Oct 5, 2017 11:17 AM - daniel871: In their edition of Slic3r, eh?
    Oct 5, 2017 11:18 AM - WheresWaldo: You know he basically rewrites what he doesn't like, probably only the slicing engine is still Slic3r
    Oct 5, 2017 11:25 AM - daniel871: Yep. Crashed on my PC too.
    Oct 5, 2017 11:32 AM - daniel871: Also Waldo you need to embed this video clip in your forum signature with that new avatar.
    Oct 5, 2017 11:36 AM - WheresWaldo: That was funny
    Oct 5, 2017 11:40 AM - Geof: Lol!!!
    Oct 5, 2017 11:42 AM - WheresWaldo: I thought Volunteer Moderator was a bit mundane.
    Oct 5, 2017 11:43 AM - Geof: lol you jabbin fun at me waldo ;)
    Oct 5, 2017 11:44 AM - mark tomlinson: Answers the question asked by the username -- "in the bat cave" apparently
    Oct 5, 2017 11:44 AM - mark tomlinson: The yuks just write themselves from there ;)
    Oct 5, 2017 11:45 AM - Geof: LOL
    Oct 5, 2017 11:50 AM - Dan: I'm back
    Oct 5, 2017 11:51 AM - Dan: Almost done with the 30mm mod. It is a really tight fit
    Oct 5, 2017 11:54 AM - Geof: Sweet! Lookin forward to seeing it
    Oct 5, 2017 11:58 AM - WheresWaldo: There isn't a lot of room behind the fan shroud, I think that is why a 25 mm x 7 mm fan was used. I have never seem a 30 mm fan that shallow, usually 10 - 10.5 mm
    Oct 5, 2017 12:03 PM - WheresWaldo: danrw, ignore the profile I sent you, it has stairstepped extruder temps. I forgot I was doing temp towers and changed the profile. I am sending you a revised one.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:05 PM - Dan: Geof, the reason I asked you how often you are on this forum was because I wanted to know if you were putting your time effort into Robo, I wanted to give you an R2. I was filling out the paperwork when our CEO, Ryan, came to my desk. When I told him what I was doing, he said he already sent one to you! Awesome. Did you get it yet?
    Oct 5, 2017 12:05 PM - Geof: Yep Ryan is pretty awesome!
    Oct 5, 2017 12:05 PM - Dan: Waldo - I am fitting the 30mm if it kills me
    Oct 5, 2017 12:05 PM - Geof: It should be here tomorrow
    Oct 5, 2017 12:05 PM - Dan: Sweet!
    Oct 5, 2017 12:06 PM - Geof: He is wonderful to talk to, please tell him hello for me.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:06 PM - Geof: I appreciate you looking out for me! Mark only has the C2 who is far more helpful than I :D
    Oct 5, 2017 12:06 PM - Dan: As soon as we get our shipment of the V2 bed design, I'll send one of those to you as well if you want it. I have R2's at my desk, 1 has the new bed and the other has pei. I really like the ppogo version, but the V2 def heats up faster
    Oct 5, 2017 12:07 PM - Dan: Who's Mark?
    Oct 5, 2017 12:07 PM - Geof: Mark Tomlinson :D
    Oct 5, 2017 12:07 PM - Dan: What's his username?
    Oct 5, 2017 12:07 PM - WheresWaldo: mark tomlinson
    Oct 5, 2017 12:07 PM - Geof: Mark Tomlinson lol
    Oct 5, 2017 12:08 PM - daniel871: http://community.robo3d.com/index.php?members/mark-tomlinson.104/
    Oct 5, 2017 12:08 PM - Geof: Thanks Daniel! I was about to post the same :D
     
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    Oct 5, 2017 12:09 PM - Geof: Yea I'd love to try out the new bed design @danrw. That would be great.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:09 PM - Dan: Cool
    Oct 5, 2017 12:09 PM - WheresWaldo: Hey don't forget me.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:10 PM - Dan: What is the pyrimid you guys are printing?
    Oct 5, 2017 12:10 PM - Geof: Its the fractal pyramid on thingiverse. https://www.thingiverse.com/search?q=fractal+pyramid&sa=&dwh=9959d682bc40b62
    Oct 5, 2017 12:11 PM - WheresWaldo: Printed in VASE mode
    Oct 5, 2017 12:11 PM - Geof: oh yes danrw Waldo would make goo duse of the new bed as well!
    Oct 5, 2017 12:11 PM - Geof: good use **** oh my.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:11 PM - Geof: lol
    Oct 5, 2017 12:11 PM - Dan: Lol, I have a 3d scan of myself printed and put it on Ryan's monitor stand weeks ago and it is still there. ha
    Oct 5, 2017 12:12 PM - Dan: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1356547?
    Oct 5, 2017 12:12 PM - WheresWaldo: I printed the wavy vase last night for my wife and she loved it, came out nearly perfect. of course I am using a self modified Marlin firmware.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:13 PM - WheresWaldo: danrw, don't try the Super Duper one, It crashed both my and Daniel871 S3D slicer.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:15 PM - Dan: Haha. ok
    Oct 5, 2017 12:15 PM - daniel871: Pyramid6 is pretty much the one to go for if it will fit on your build plate.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:16 PM - daniel871: Must be done with a 0.4mm nozzle if you want it to do Vase mode.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:16 PM - Dan: Modified firmware? R2? R1? What are your mods?
    Oct 5, 2017 12:17 PM - daniel871: Mine is just whatever firmware is on the delta I'm printing it on, with the Simplify3D profile provided by Monoprice. If I still had a Robo printer I'd give it a shot (but to be honest wouldn't have much hope because the R1 I had was from the period where glass beds were shattering and the base acrylic had cracks in them).
    Oct 5, 2017 12:18 PM - WheresWaldo: The list is too long and I have them for both the R1 and R2, should work on the C2 also, I think Mark Tomlinson is going to test that.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:19 PM - WheresWaldo: There are threads in R1 and R2 subforums under Mods and Upgrades.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:20 PM - WheresWaldo: The R1 was a very long journey to bring it up to date. But Marlin 1.1.5 with UBL is working on the R1/R1+
    Oct 5, 2017 12:20 PM - danzca6: ok...I think some of the shoutbox scrolled off, but I think I'm finally caught up...you all are chatting up a storm today
    Oct 5, 2017 12:21 PM - danzca6: oh, and hello all
    Oct 5, 2017 12:22 PM - Geof: Hi danz! Where ya been lol
    Oct 5, 2017 12:22 PM - danzca6: meetings meeting meetings hahaha
    Oct 5, 2017 12:22 PM - Geof: bummer !lol
    Oct 5, 2017 12:22 PM - WheresWaldo: Now 3 dans on line
    Oct 5, 2017 12:23 PM - Geof: right! Spreading like wildfire these days ;)
    Oct 5, 2017 12:23 PM - Geof: daniel, dan, danz got it lol
    Oct 5, 2017 12:23 PM - daniel871: I'm trying to figure out whether this new guy would be willing to send me one of their leftover test units to go against my extremely bad luck with two R1 units.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:24 PM - danzca6: Can never have enough dans
    Oct 5, 2017 12:24 PM - Geof: lol danz IDK 3 may be the forum limit ;)
    Oct 5, 2017 12:24 PM - daniel871: At least there aren't any Matts.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:25 PM - daniel871: Bunch of compulsive liars and one-up story tellers.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:25 PM - Geof: ? lol
    Oct 5, 2017 12:26 PM - WheresWaldo: Geof, my last print has 0% ringing and I upped the print speed by 600 mm/s additional
    Oct 5, 2017 12:27 PM - Geof: thats awesome! With the modified jerk and accel?
    Oct 5, 2017 12:27 PM - WheresWaldo: Yep
    Oct 5, 2017 12:27 PM - daniel871: Did it actually achieve that speed or were you beyond the theoretical max speed based on Accel/Jerk settings?
    Oct 5, 2017 12:27 PM - danzca6: on your R2
    Oct 5, 2017 12:27 PM - WheresWaldo: Yep
    Oct 5, 2017 12:27 PM - danzca6: holy moly
    Oct 5, 2017 12:28 PM - WheresWaldo: Jerk just tells it when to use the accelleration numbers, otherwise all moves are assumed instantaneous
    Oct 5, 2017 12:28 PM - Geof: What were the magic numbers ?
    Oct 5, 2017 12:29 PM - WheresWaldo: Print moves 500 travel moves 1000 max 1000 Jerk dropped to 8 from 10.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:30 PM - daniel871: I'm pretty sure that Jerk is the rate at which Acceleration is applied.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:31 PM - WheresWaldo: I also increased homing speed to 10000
    Oct 5, 2017 12:32 PM - WheresWaldo: Sorry we are both wrong. Jerk is instantaeous speed and acceleration is the rate between jerk settings and requested acceleration.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:33 PM - WheresWaldo: And home at the top of the bed instead of the bottom. That saves a ton of time especially since travel up the Z is so slow.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:34 PM - WheresWaldo: Danz why aren't you using my version of Marlin?
    Oct 5, 2017 12:38 PM - daniel871: According to how the term is used for industrial CNC machines, Jerk is the rate of Acceleration change within a second-per-second interval. There are also, I shit you not, "snap" "crackle" and "pop" variables for 4th, 5th & 5th order derivatives that go even further than Jerk for the extremely fast machines.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:41 PM - WheresWaldo: But Marlin implementation of the CNC standards is rather loose
    Oct 5, 2017 12:41 PM - daniel871: So 600mm/s on 500mm/s/s Acceleration and 18mm/s/s/s Jerk means it would take at least 1 second of motion to achieve that speed in a straight line, somewhere between 1.5-1.6 seconds if my Napkin math is right. But that only works for straight line movements. If there are any curves-made-up-of-straight-lines in the movement it never gets there.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:42 PM - danzca6: I am using your Marlin
    Oct 5, 2017 12:43 PM - WheresWaldo: UBL or MESH, I just updated MESH with new acceleration settings.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:43 PM - daniel871: That's just for straight up cartesian movements though. I think the actual acceleration is reduced a good bit on a delta because the actual acceleration on all 3 axes is far less than the acceleration of the effector.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:43 PM - danzca6: MESH
    Oct 5, 2017 12:43 PM - danzca6: It's been awhile since I updated. I can look at that this weekend
    Oct 5, 2017 12:44 PM - WheresWaldo: You can duplicate the latest changes with M204 and M205
    Oct 5, 2017 12:45 PM - WheresWaldo: I think 1.1.5 will be the last version I modify for the R1/R1+, as soon as 1.1.6 releases I'll do a R2 version.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:46 PM - danzca6: :(
    Oct 5, 2017 12:46 PM - WheresWaldo: I don't see anything that will help the R1 in 1.1.6
    Oct 5, 2017 12:47 PM - WheresWaldo: Actually it won't help the R2 either but it is easier to stay up to date than jump several versions.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:48 PM - danzca6: that's alright...when it works it works
    Oct 5, 2017 12:53 PM - daniel871: It works?
    Oct 5, 2017 12:54 PM - WheresWaldo: 871, I guess you gave up a bit too soon, yes it does work.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:54 PM - Dan: Wow ok I just caught up.
    Oct 5, 2017 12:55 PM - Dan: Busy as heck here, sorry for the delay
    Oct 5, 2017 12:55 PM - Dan: I finished the 30mmx3 duct
    Oct 5, 2017 12:55 PM - danzca6: you changed your name
    Oct 5, 2017 12:55 PM - Dan: I also took over the ultimate username
    Oct 5, 2017 12:56 PM - danzca6: not fair
    Oct 5, 2017 12:56 PM - danzca6: I'm going to change mine to all caps now
    Oct 5, 2017 12:56 PM - Dan: lol
    Oct 5, 2017 12:57 PM - WheresWaldo: I just change my title from time to time
    Oct 5, 2017 12:57 PM - danzca6: now you need an avatar
    Oct 5, 2017 12:57 PM - Dan: @daniel871 You don't even have a Robo printer? But you are harboring hostile fugitives
    Oct 5, 2017 12:57 PM - danzca6: Yeah waldo I didn't recognize you at first with the batman avatar today
    Oct 5, 2017 12:58 PM - WheresWaldo: Once Mark told me I could change my title I am having a bit of fun with it and the Avatar
    Oct 5, 2017 12:59 PM - Dan: Just made an avatar
    Oct 5, 2017 12:59 PM - WheresWaldo: I was jealous that he an Geof where Volunteer Moderators and I was just Moderator
    Oct 5, 2017 12:59 PM - Dan: What
    Oct 5, 2017 12:59 PM - Dan: What's the difference?*
    Oct 5, 2017 1:00 PM - WheresWaldo: None
    Oct 5, 2017 1:00 PM - Dan: You can be Legendary Moderator
    Oct 5, 2017 1:00 PM - WheresWaldo: Actually MArk can do a bit more than Geof and I but that wasn't the point.
    Oct 5, 2017 1:01 PM - Dan: Waldo I kinda want to print the shroud before I release it. Unless you want to get started on the print for yourself
    Oct 5, 2017 1:01 PM - WheresWaldo: I just couldn't figure out where the tiutle came from and why it was different, because I was being stupid.
    Oct 5, 2017 1:01 PM - Dan: Ive got my Accelerations set at 400 1000 1000
    Oct 5, 2017 1:02 PM - WheresWaldo: Dan that should be fine, the issue is more what the default shipping numbers were.
    Oct 5, 2017 1:02 PM - Dan: Yeah, I changed them to 400 1000 1000
    Oct 5, 2017 1:04 PM - Dan: Does this chat usually have more people in it or is it pretty dead most of the time?
    Oct 5, 2017 1:04 PM - WheresWaldo: I also use S3D default print speed of 4000 mm/min
    Oct 5, 2017 1:04 PM - danzca6: Dan...love the avatar...Robo missed the oppertunity to call the C2 the D2
    Oct 5, 2017 1:05 PM - danzca6: then it would be the R2 and D2
    Oct 5, 2017 1:05 PM - Dan: So, what's that Waldo? 66mm/s?
    Oct 5, 2017 1:05 PM - WheresWaldo: There are a few regulars, some based on time of day. but it is always hit or miss. dan and dan usually show up a few times everyday, Bill Monroe in the AM
    Oct 5, 2017 1:06 PM - Dan: Haha thanks. I just did a quick wrap of the r2 on an r2d2 i found on google
    Oct 5, 2017 1:06 PM - WheresWaldo: Yep about 66 mm/s but S3D uses mm/min
    Oct 5, 2017 1:07 PM - Dan: What is the fastest you print at with success, and at what speed does it tend to be a bad print for you?
     
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    Oct 5, 2017 1:07 PM - danzca6: I've always thought an R2D2 themed delta would be fun
    Oct 5, 2017 1:08 PM - WheresWaldo: Speed is the one thing I don't have a lot of experience with. So I try to find a speed and then pretty much stick with it. But 66 mm/s was too fast for the R1
    Oct 5, 2017 1:09 PM - WheresWaldo: Now that I have a profile that I am happy with I might just keep increasing the speed until it turns ugly.
    Oct 5, 2017 1:14 PM - Dan: Alright, what do you think? https://imgur.com/QZiLyU9
    Oct 5, 2017 1:14 PM - Dan: https://imgur.com/ppoR2kI
    Oct 5, 2017 1:14 PM - Dan: Tell me again why you wanted the rear 30mm? Noise only?
    Oct 5, 2017 1:16 PM - WheresWaldo: Noise and airflow
    Oct 5, 2017 1:17 PM - WheresWaldo: But I wanted the model because I need to drop the IR sensor 5 mm after upgrading to a E3Dv6
    Oct 5, 2017 1:17 PM - daniel871: You can easily change mm/min to mm/s in S3D Waldo.
    Oct 5, 2017 1:18 PM - daniel871: Tools > Options > first thing you see on the Preferences tab.
    Oct 5, 2017 1:18 PM - WheresWaldo: I guess I never looked there.
    Oct 5, 2017 1:18 PM - daniel871: Makes no impact on the actual Gcode generated as far as I can tell.
    Oct 5, 2017 1:18 PM - WheresWaldo: I think it is only for us puny humans
    Oct 5, 2017 1:19 PM - daniel871: Also @Dan, you can read the tragic tale of the second Robo printer I had here: http://community.robo3d.com/index.php?threads/the-ces-2016-robo3d-r1-plus.8220/
    Oct 5, 2017 1:19 PM - daniel871: I was trying to find my original R1 thread but it's not coming up on searches for threads posted by me.
    Oct 5, 2017 1:19 PM - Dan: Used Fusion 360 to create. You can work with this? I'll send it to you with one condition. If you modify/improve it, I want the stl ;)
    Oct 5, 2017 1:20 PM - Geof: Gents I'm off for a bit, back in a hour or so for awhile. Gotta go start the home shop.
    Oct 5, 2017 1:20 PM - Geof: :D
    Oct 5, 2017 1:20 PM - Dan: daniel - can you summarize it? I
    Oct 5, 2017 1:20 PM - Geof: Dan you want the fusion file, you dont want the .stl ;)
    Oct 5, 2017 1:20 PM - Dan: I'm swamped right now
    Oct 5, 2017 1:20 PM - WheresWaldo: If you just make the A360 version available, I will give you the Fusion file
    Oct 5, 2017 1:20 PM - daniel871: Catastrophic power failure, then the replacement Arduino/Ramps didn't have any firmware on it and no bootloader stored in the Mega.
    Oct 5, 2017 1:20 PM - Dan: I just signed up for the A360 - so let me figure it out
    Oct 5, 2017 1:21 PM - daniel871: There are some pretty good "transition from Solidworks to Fusion360" and "Fusion360 tutorial" videos on the official Youtube channel for it.
    Oct 5, 2017 1:21 PM - WheresWaldo: Left click on the version number in you F360 repository, select Open details on web
    Oct 5, 2017 1:22 PM - WheresWaldo: Click on the share icons (the < looking one) and chose SHARE
    Oct 5, 2017 1:23 PM - WheresWaldo: set it how youy want and past the link
    Oct 5, 2017 1:23 PM - WheresWaldo: or email it
    Oct 5, 2017 1:24 PM - WheresWaldo: I share my custom design requests this way, but usually unselect allow downloading.
    Oct 5, 2017 1:24 PM - WheresWaldo: The few I have posted here have downloading enabled.
    Oct 5, 2017 1:26 PM - WheresWaldo: Example: http://a360.co/2y2Q6Ga a model of the R2 door handle.
    Oct 5, 2017 1:26 PM - WheresWaldo: Doing it like this is a model by model setting not global
    Oct 5, 2017 1:28 PM - WheresWaldo: BTW, I never finished that model. I was going to build in Ed Ferguson's Stylus holder in it.
    Oct 5, 2017 2:06 PM - WheresWaldo: Speed test, one at 80 mm/s the other at 60 mm/s, about 2 minutes faster printing at 80 mm/s [​IMG]
    Oct 5, 2017 2:07 PM - WheresWaldo: The corners degrade as you go faster.
    Oct 5, 2017 2:08 PM - Dan: Should I catch up?
    Oct 5, 2017 2:08 PM - Dan: Was doing something with Braydon. He says what's up. So does Coby
    Oct 5, 2017 2:09 PM - WheresWaldo: Dan the picture I just posted was Deprime test at 60 mm/s and 80 mm/s
    Oct 5, 2017 2:09 PM - Dan: Is it possible to connect S3D to octoprint?
    Oct 5, 2017 2:09 PM - Dan: Waldo - R2?
    Oct 5, 2017 2:10 PM - WheresWaldo: Yes R2
    Oct 5, 2017 2:10 PM - WheresWaldo: You can connect S3D to OctoPrint using Samba, but no direct connection, S3D users have asked many times.
    Oct 5, 2017 2:11 PM - Dan: Damn
    Oct 5, 2017 2:11 PM - WheresWaldo: Even Slic3r has this feature.
    Oct 5, 2017 2:12 PM - WheresWaldo: User have asked since S3D 2.0 and it now at v4 and still not included.
    Oct 5, 2017 2:12 PM - Dan: blast
    Oct 5, 2017 2:13 PM - Dan: Do you want that 30 mm duct/
    Oct 5, 2017 2:13 PM - WheresWaldo: There is a script, and I am told it works from both Macs and Windows, Windows requires extra setup
    Oct 5, 2017 2:13 PM - WheresWaldo: Please
    Oct 5, 2017 4:15 PM - Dan: having a heck of a time with A360
    Oct 5, 2017 4:31 PM - Geof: Whats happening in fusion ?
    Oct 5, 2017 7:28 PM - danzca6: Not sure how long this deal will be live. $185 for a printrbot simple pro ... http://a.co/42LhaFY
     
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    Oct 6, 2017 5:08 AM - Geof: 305.68 this morning :D
    Oct 6, 2017 5:14 AM - danzca6: yeah it was on the rise last night pretty quick after I bought one at 185. I should have bought 2. For only 129 you can get the heated bed upgrade with the flex steel PEI plate. Another 75 to get the bigger power supply to run the bed. Not sure I will need all that, but still way under the 699 price for the 2017 model
    Oct 6, 2017 5:16 AM - WheresWaldo: I have the Honey add on loaded for Newegg and Amazon and looked at the price history it jumped up pretty rapidly.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:16 AM - Geof: My guess is old stock?
    Oct 6, 2017 5:16 AM - WheresWaldo: So Geof, you are getting an R2? Yeah :)
    Oct 6, 2017 5:16 AM - danzca6: 2016 model
    Oct 6, 2017 5:17 AM - Geof: Yea Ryan the new CEO called me and chit chatted abit then I got tracking info a few days later for a shipment. Had no idea lol.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:17 AM - Geof: should be here tonight
    Oct 6, 2017 5:18 AM - danzca6: that's awesome
    Oct 6, 2017 5:18 AM - WheresWaldo: Well it is welcome, we all needed one of the new line to better help moderate.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:19 AM - WheresWaldo: You'll need to tell me how the new bed works, and then we can both figure out if there is a way to retrofit the new design.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:20 AM - Geof: I believe mine is a bit different lol. Mor eo fa will it hold up to how i operate :D
    Oct 6, 2017 5:20 AM - Geof: like a case study :D
    Oct 6, 2017 5:21 AM - WheresWaldo: Interesting.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:21 AM - Geof: not really sure, like I said I didn't know it was coming until I was emailed tracking :D
    Oct 6, 2017 5:21 AM - WheresWaldo: You'll need to tell me if the included invoice says "refurb", that is what they sent me.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:22 AM - Geof: I'm assuming so. or a test unit
    Oct 6, 2017 5:23 AM - WheresWaldo: I still have the turbojet fan in the PSU and the pogo pins for the bed, but I barely ever remove the bed.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:24 AM - WheresWaldo: I could always solder some wires and crimp on a 6-pin PCIE plug and socket on the bed. I have a bunch left over from my last PC case mod.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:24 AM - Geof: I highly highly doubt I'll remove the bed. I seriously never do on any of my gantry machines unless its to repair something. and even then unless its a huge pain it stays put
    Oct 6, 2017 5:24 AM - WheresWaldo: Yep that is how I use it too.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:25 AM - Geof: I dont think my UM float glass has come off since I got it lol.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:25 AM - Geof: There is just no need, either bed up top, or bed on bottom :D. And the robo is about the same size, an inch shorter than my extended I think
    Oct 6, 2017 5:26 AM - Geof: shall see I suppose. Going to leave the Robo at the home shop for now, actual shop is literally full.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:26 AM - Geof: no more benchspace lol
    Oct 6, 2017 5:26 AM - WheresWaldo: So this is a ? for yuou guys. I started using a very light mist of hairspray on the PEI bed surface. Seems to help with removal, never had a print yet that was stuck too hard. I wonder if it is really necessary.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:26 AM - WheresWaldo: Old habits
    Oct 6, 2017 5:27 AM - Geof: I use glue stick a lot on my prusa.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:27 AM - Geof: to deter sticking :D I actually have a chunk of PEI come up with aquanet one time on it lol
    Oct 6, 2017 5:28 AM - Geof: the part did pop off lol. Just had to replace the PEI and that SUUUUCCCCKKKKSSSSS
    Oct 6, 2017 5:29 AM - WheresWaldo: I wonder what the new bed design uses. It wasn't mentioned specifically but the called the old bed PEI and not the new bed.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:31 AM - Geof: There was a picture I saw of it looks like a buildtak like surface
    Oct 6, 2017 5:31 AM - Geof: I havent gottena ny kind of ship info so I dont think Dan sent me one at least not yet. If he does I'll take pictures.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:33 AM - WheresWaldo: I sent a PM last night and included you and Mark, don't know why Dan was having an issue with A360
    Oct 6, 2017 5:33 AM - Geof: its very hard to get use to fusion if you dont watch the videos :D
    Oct 6, 2017 5:33 AM - WheresWaldo: When you create an Autodesk account and use Fusion 360 all your files are stored in A360.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:33 AM - Geof: I watch them still! lol. I always learn a better way to do something then the way I was doing it
    Oct 6, 2017 5:34 AM - WheresWaldo: Those and Angus' videos, he does quite a few things different than I do in Fusion.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:35 AM - Geof: Maybe he will be back on today and you can help him out with that. I think I have to go install a sign at a clients with the shop so wont be here for a bit then tonight is documenting the R2 unboxing
    Oct 6, 2017 5:36 AM - WheresWaldo: My idea fo unboxing videos, here is a box, cut to here is the printer, All of 10 seconds.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:37 AM - Geof: lol oh no video just pictures so they can see what I saw when I opened it. I dont expect any issues but things dont typically work when delivered to me lol. Not the oem fault, shipping company plays kickball with all my packages I think lol
    Oct 6, 2017 5:37 AM - WheresWaldo: Sanladerer did a vid yesterday on the Sigma R17
    Oct 6, 2017 5:41 AM - Geof: on the Sigmax right?
    Oct 6, 2017 5:42 AM - Geof: I heard that NO youtubers will get a sigmax because the R17s they were sent were pretty much quick 5 min videos for a free machine lol.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:42 AM - Geof: dont know how true that is, just what i heard.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:43 AM - WheresWaldo: Only a 5 minute vid. It was a Sigmax
    Oct 6, 2017 5:43 AM - WheresWaldo: From their booth at TCT2017
    Oct 6, 2017 5:44 AM - Geof: yea I think thats all the youtube exposure those machines will get unless BCN changes their mind.
    Oct 6, 2017 5:45 AM - Geof: I would agree, my opinion is the sigma is more of a commercial/high end user tool. not a thingiverse copier ;)
    Oct 6, 2017 5:47 AM - Geof: I'm not a huge fan of youtube machine reviews because I dont care how they do in the few hours they run the machine. I'm more of a what support will I recieve when I have 4k hours on the machine
    Oct 6, 2017 6:15 AM - daniel871: The new MK3 has a powder-coated spring steel sheet that goes on top of the bed (with PEI mixed into the powder-coating solution) so that it is much harder to damage.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:21 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan how did the pyramid turn out?
    Oct 6, 2017 6:21 AM - Geof: Will be interested to see how it holds up over time.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:23 AM - WheresWaldo: It should be cheaper to replace than borosilicate glass.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:27 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan don't be mean, you were a noob once too.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:27 AM - Geof: did I miss something?
    Oct 6, 2017 6:28 AM - WheresWaldo: No not really, just Dan being Dan.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:31 AM - Geof: lol gotya. Waldo any words of wisdom on the R2
    Oct 6, 2017 6:33 AM - WheresWaldo: Yeah, dump the OEM firmware and go to MESH, never level again. and then increase print speed to about 70 mm/s
    Oct 6, 2017 6:34 AM - Geof: lol :D
    Oct 6, 2017 6:34 AM - Geof: I will likely just remove auto level. I'd rather just manually level :D
    Oct 6, 2017 6:35 AM - WheresWaldo: Also use Win32DiskImager to image the SD card then get a better one (samsung EVO, Sandisk Extreme, etc)
    Oct 6, 2017 6:35 AM - WheresWaldo: My bed is warped, but just a +- 0.1 mm
    Oct 6, 2017 6:36 AM - Geof: front to back or side to side?
    Oct 6, 2017 6:36 AM - Geof: What size SD do you prefer?
    Oct 6, 2017 6:36 AM - Geof: 16g ok?
    Oct 6, 2017 6:37 AM - WheresWaldo: Level the 4 corners. Dumb way to level. then run MESH once. As lond as the EEPROM version doesn't change MESH is even preserved between firmware flashes, you just need to re-enable using M420 S1
    Oct 6, 2017 6:37 AM - WheresWaldo: Yeah 16Gb is plenty
    Oct 6, 2017 6:38 AM - WheresWaldo: I am pretty sure I got a 16Gb Samsung EVO µSD in mine right now.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:38 AM - Geof: Do the R2 auto update?
    Oct 6, 2017 6:38 AM - Geof: firmware I mean
    Oct 6, 2017 6:40 AM - WheresWaldo: The Auto Update doesn't do firmware, so you are pretty safe there.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:40 AM - Geof: thats good.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:40 AM - Geof: I'll put mine on the network but do not want it auto updating to anything :D
    Oct 6, 2017 6:41 AM - WheresWaldo: You can use the included OctoPrint Plugin Firmware Updater to write precompiled binary files (.hex)
    Oct 6, 2017 6:41 AM - Geof: I hate .hex files :D
    Oct 6, 2017 6:41 AM - WheresWaldo: It doesn't actually Auto Update, it tells you when an update is available, but it is up to you to actually update.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:42 AM - WheresWaldo: I have done all the updates and am still using Marlin 1.1.5 MESH
    Oct 6, 2017 6:44 AM - Geof: Thats good. I dont like auto but being prompted is cool.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:44 AM - WheresWaldo: .Hex is easy. Load source into Arduino IDE, Select Sketch, select Export compiled Binary, in Marlin directory will be two .hex files, one you want is without bootloader.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:45 AM - WheresWaldo: If your R2 is on your network, you can upload the firmware direct from your PC
    Oct 6, 2017 6:45 AM - Geof: Good to known! Thank you
    Oct 6, 2017 6:46 AM - WheresWaldo: Using the plugin of course
    Oct 6, 2017 6:46 AM - Geof: for sure.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:47 AM - Geof: Will be curious to see how it holds up. Currently getting togather a print que and writing up a s3d profile
    Oct 6, 2017 6:47 AM - WheresWaldo: The only thing I couldn't get to work was the wizard for Home Offset, but that is easy too. Raise bed until the Red LED flickers, then move the bed up counting how far it needed to move to trap you paper gauge. that is your Home Offset.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:48 AM - daniel871: What did I say that was mean? Lasers will blind you if you go into messing with them not knowing what you're doing.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:49 AM - WheresWaldo: I have an FFF file that works. It requires pretty accurate offset. I don't know why people still choose to make layer one taller than it is supposed to be just to get better adhesion. If I ask for .2 mm layers I want them all to be .2 mm
    Oct 6, 2017 6:49 AM - daniel871: Also saying "If you don't know what you're doing, stop doing it" isn't being mean.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:49 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan yanking your chain, chill bro.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:50 AM - sgomes: Yay, glad to hear you're getting an R2, Geof! You deserve it, for helping folks all the time here :)
    Oct 6, 2017 6:50 AM - Geof: thanks sgomes! Will be nice to be able to see what everyone is talking about
    Oct 6, 2017 6:50 AM - Geof: Waldo- I leave first layer at 100%. I dont overextrude it because I hate hate hate cleaning it off in post lol
    Oct 6, 2017 6:51 AM - daniel871: Wait, you bought an R2 or scammed one?
    Oct 6, 2017 6:51 AM - WheresWaldo: Robo isn't going to send you an R2, Dan.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:51 AM - daniel871: Doesn't change the question.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:51 AM - WheresWaldo: He is a test subject.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:52 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof, I also leave every layer at 100%, if I need more adhesion I can always play with first layer extrusion multiplier.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:53 AM - Geof: Dan, I am being sent one by Robo.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:53 AM - Geof: no scam :D
     
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    Oct 6, 2017 6:57 AM - sgomes: I don't think I'll manage to sell my R2. I guess I'll just have to live with it taking up space until I move somewhere bigger :-/
    Oct 6, 2017 6:59 AM - Geof: Used Printers are a very hard sell.
    Oct 6, 2017 6:59 AM - Geof: luck to get half retail, often much less.
    Oct 6, 2017 7:00 AM - WheresWaldo: Market is too small, Chinese keep driving the prices lower. It is worse than a used car.
    Oct 6, 2017 7:00 AM - Geof: indeed.
    Oct 6, 2017 7:00 AM - sgomes: Yeah, and the rate of innovation is much higher than in the car market too.
    Oct 6, 2017 7:00 AM - Geof: I have kept all mine, I dont ever sell them. Just upgrade, repair, maintain etc to keep current. Not enough money back, better to just have the capacity
    Oct 6, 2017 7:05 AM - sgomes: Yeah, shouldn't be a problem once I get a workshop. Would be fun to play around with paste or clay extruders on the R2 once I get a different printer at some point.
    Oct 6, 2017 7:06 AM - danzca6: yeah there is a guy trying to sell one of those old wooden printrbot simple machines for $100...still has the sand paper discs for the pulley and rope for the belts
    Oct 6, 2017 7:06 AM - danzca6: he's crazy
    Oct 6, 2017 7:07 AM - Geof: lol craigslist?
    Oct 6, 2017 7:07 AM - sgomes: Wow, I had no idea rope had been a thing at some point
    Oct 6, 2017 7:08 AM - WheresWaldo: Fishing line was a thing too.
    Oct 6, 2017 7:09 AM - danzca6: yeah on craigslist
    Oct 6, 2017 7:10 AM - danzca6: he won't budge on the price...thinks he's sitting on gold or something
    Oct 6, 2017 7:11 AM - Geof: lol yea there has been some...interesting set ups over the years
    Oct 6, 2017 7:11 AM - Geof: people seem to think that the printers are worth something after more than a year. Hard to believe.
    Oct 6, 2017 7:12 AM - danzca6: printing a test cube on this adoptabot...thing is...iffy
    Oct 6, 2017 7:14 AM - Geof: lol you can say it...junk :D
    Oct 6, 2017 7:16 AM - danzca6: i'm on a mission...hahaha
    Oct 6, 2017 7:16 AM - Geof: lol :D I understand. Will wait for you to innovate :D
    Oct 6, 2017 7:17 AM - danzca6: next innovation is redesigning this probe holder...never get the same reading twice because it is loose now
    Oct 6, 2017 7:18 AM - Geof: lol hurry up already danz :D lol
    Oct 6, 2017 7:18 AM - Geof: got a box of parts I cant do anything with until your done revisin ;)
    Oct 6, 2017 7:24 AM - Geof: Hey to Jerry
    Oct 6, 2017 9:24 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Oct 6, 2017 10:04 AM - Geof: LMAO !
    Oct 6, 2017 11:55 AM - daniel871: Well, this is odd. I've got a nozzle clog, but what I'm pulling out of the nozzle looks like strands of fiberglass.
    Oct 6, 2017 11:56 AM - WheresWaldo: Pic or it never happened.
    Oct 6, 2017 11:56 AM - daniel871: Oh well. Wanted an excuse to replace the nozzle with a stainless one anyway.
    Oct 6, 2017 11:58 AM - daniel871: Best I can tell there was a short section of strands off of that strand tape that is sometimes used at the very start of a spool wrapped around a section of the filament.
    Oct 6, 2017 11:58 AM - daniel871: Over 2/3 of the way into the spool.
    Oct 6, 2017 11:58 AM - WheresWaldo: possible
    Oct 6, 2017 11:59 AM - daniel871: (same spool that had flat spots in it in my earlier print failures)
    Oct 6, 2017 11:59 AM - daniel871: Not a huge deal to clean out or deal with other than the timing aggravation. I wanted to print some more stuff.
     
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    Oct 8, 2017 8:00 AM - WheresWaldo: Hey Sergio, how are you today?
    Oct 8, 2017 12:25 PM - sgomes: Hey Waldo! Sorry, just saw your message :)
    Oct 8, 2017 12:27 PM - sgomes: I'm good, was taking care of some chores. How are things over there?
    Oct 8, 2017 5:49 PM - Dan: How’s everyone doing this weekend?
    Oct 8, 2017 5:50 PM - Dan: Waldo - I am working on the A360. I botched it because I changed my primary email and tried to accept an invite to another project
    Oct 8, 2017 7:06 PM - Geof: Doing well Dan, yourself ?
     
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    Oct 9, 2017 5:44 AM - Geof: Happy Monday all.
    Oct 9, 2017 5:52 AM - danzca6: I wish I got columbus day off
    Oct 9, 2017 5:54 AM - Geof: me to man lol
    Oct 9, 2017 5:55 AM - danzca6: haven't even had the time to take the printrbot out of the box
    Oct 9, 2017 5:56 AM - danzca6: I did redesign about the whole adoptabot this weekend
    Oct 9, 2017 5:56 AM - Geof: that may not be a bad thing lol
    Oct 9, 2017 5:56 AM - danzca6: I need to print some test pieces and see if it all works out the way I planned
    Oct 9, 2017 5:56 AM - Geof: is it better? Or still need to print it?
    Oct 9, 2017 5:56 AM - danzca6: I hope for it to be a lot better
    Oct 9, 2017 5:57 AM - Geof: thats awesome!
    Oct 9, 2017 5:57 AM - danzca6: Still want to machine a new coupler
    Oct 9, 2017 5:57 AM - Geof: I think I'd just order a new one lo
    Oct 9, 2017 5:57 AM - Geof: lol*
    Oct 9, 2017 5:58 AM - Geof: you can put in that order some new 8mm leadscrews and couplers too ;) but that'd be for a different machine ;)
    Oct 9, 2017 5:58 AM - Geof: ol
    Oct 9, 2017 5:59 AM - danzca6: hahaha...I've actually been trying to find a nema 17 with an integrated TR8 leadscrew that's about 150mm
    Oct 9, 2017 6:00 AM - Geof: finding integrated that size will be hard, just get standard integrated lead and chop it to size :D
    Oct 9, 2017 6:01 AM - danzca6: yeah and I've read that you can replace the leadscrew in an integrated setup with whatever size as long as it is the same type of leadscrew
    Oct 9, 2017 6:01 AM - danzca6: cutting it, I would be afraid of messing up the threads
    Oct 9, 2017 6:02 AM - Geof: na you wont mess it up. Hack it off with a chop saw with a grinder blade then needle file the burrs off then wire wheel. The nut should be already on the threads when you do the cutting :D. But after that a few minutes clean up it will be just fine.
    Oct 9, 2017 6:05 AM - danzca6: hmmmm...maybe I'll try that.
    Oct 9, 2017 6:08 AM - Geof: you can bring with you when you come down and I can give you a hand if you need.
    Oct 9, 2017 6:12 AM - danzca6: I may have to do that. I'll bring the lil bot and you can see if you want to even spend time messing with assembling one
    Oct 9, 2017 6:13 AM - Geof: If I dont I'll send the box with you ;) lol
    Oct 9, 2017 6:16 AM - danzca6: haha..thanks...i think..ahaha ;)
    Oct 9, 2017 6:16 AM - Geof: nah no thanks necessary...no really...:D lol
    Oct 9, 2017 6:17 AM - danzca6: bahahaha...."I ain't got no time for that shtuff"...hahahha
    Oct 9, 2017 6:19 AM - Geof: right! :D
    Oct 9, 2017 7:35 AM - jim3Dbot: Danz, Geof is right, of coarse....that's my preferred method.....I thread on four nuts....use in pairs, create one against one other as a jam nut...both won't move....do the same with the other two...a few inches apart....cut, then back off each nut one at a time to clean & reform threads.
    Oct 9, 2017 7:37 AM - jim3Dbot: Oh yeah, clamp nuts into vise
    Oct 9, 2017 7:39 AM - Geof: :D
    Oct 9, 2017 7:39 AM - jim3Dbot: :rolleyes:
    Oct 9, 2017 7:40 AM - Geof: Morning Jim.
    Oct 9, 2017 7:41 AM - danzca6: clamping nuts into a vise sounds painful....haha...Morning Jim...been a long time man
    Oct 9, 2017 7:41 AM - jim3Dbot: Mornin' Geof
    Oct 9, 2017 7:41 AM - Geof: how you doin
    Oct 9, 2017 7:42 AM - jim3Dbot: Ive been nuts..as everyone....hope alls fine...you guys sure have progressed in this hobby...congrats
    Oct 9, 2017 7:44 AM - jim3Dbot: I read the forum a couple of times a day...that school thing with the printer is a great project....sounds like you did a lot of work on it Danz
    Oct 9, 2017 7:45 AM - Geof: Danz is workin overtime on it for sure.
    Oct 9, 2017 7:46 AM - danzca6: yeah I have put a lot of hours into it...It's for a good cause and really want to see it suceed
    Oct 9, 2017 7:47 AM - jim3Dbot: I have four 10 x 15' storage sheds....shame on me......in the back of one is a cnc machine I have not ever powered up.....my winter project.
    Oct 9, 2017 7:47 AM - danzca6: did I read that you are retired now Jim?
    Oct 9, 2017 7:49 AM - jim3Dbot: I retired at 62, self employed........so it's really meaningless...since I continue to keep busy....but old demanding customers are history.... :) :) :)
    Oct 9, 2017 7:50 AM - danzca6: ah, ok...so now you can be your own boss...nice
    Oct 9, 2017 7:51 AM - jim3Dbot: Yep, instead of having many, many bosses.....now I have just two......
    Oct 9, 2017 7:53 AM - jim3Dbot: Geof & Danz....Is it appropriate to begin a thread, concerning the IR, that will list the different 3D printers, and their respective driver boards and how to connect'em?
    Oct 9, 2017 7:55 AM - danzca6: I wouldn't see why not
    Oct 9, 2017 7:55 AM - danzca6: Are you talking just the diff robo printers or more general?
    Oct 9, 2017 7:57 AM - danzca6: I would think general discussion would be a good place if it's a wider range of printers. That would be helpful info
    Oct 9, 2017 7:57 AM - jim3Dbot: These are printers like the tronxy, etc that are not robos...questions from some on how to connect....it's a real pain since it's all research
    Oct 9, 2017 7:58 AM - Geof: yep general discussion would be dandy
    Oct 9, 2017 8:00 AM - jim3Dbot: Good, for instance, the Tronxys z limit switch is 'bout the same as robos but,
    Oct 9, 2017 8:00 AM - Geof: oh yea, no harm at all. User forum and we all use more than just a Robo ;)
    Oct 9, 2017 8:03 AM - jim3Dbot: the main boards 3 pin connector swaps the sig/gnd/vcc.....also a Vreg is required between the +12v, small interface brd...3 pin to regulator...creating a crossover cable...to IR
    Oct 9, 2017 8:05 AM - jim3Dbot: Good, I'll get my s..together this week, and begin one...hey guys....I have to run...keep up the good work.......
    Oct 9, 2017 8:11 AM - danzca6: Later Jim...nice catching you for a bit today. Take care
    Oct 9, 2017 8:30 AM - Geof: Have a good day Jim!
    Oct 9, 2017 9:14 AM - Dan: Hi Geoff, I just read your message
    Oct 9, 2017 9:15 AM - Dan: Are you certain about pi connection rattling loose?
    Oct 9, 2017 10:12 AM - Geof: after securing the cable it hasn't happened again :D
    Oct 9, 2017 10:12 AM - Geof: but no :D Still waiting for it to happen.
    Oct 9, 2017 10:12 AM - Geof: again*** after securing
    Oct 9, 2017 10:43 AM - Dan: Ok cool
    Oct 9, 2017 10:43 AM - Geof: easy enough :D If its the pi just loose I can swap it with one I've got. Will monitor over the next few days and see how she does.
    Oct 9, 2017 10:43 AM - Geof: Thanks for following up though!
    Oct 9, 2017 10:44 AM - Dan: Ok. Keep me posted
    Oct 9, 2017 10:44 AM - Geof: for sure, will do.
    Oct 9, 2017 11:01 AM - jim3Dbot: Geof, my son is considering a Creality CR-10, ratings seem good, what's your opinion....Thanks
    Oct 9, 2017 11:13 AM - danzca6: PrintedSolid just started supplying the CR-10. They do a full inspection and testing of them prior to shipping. Seen some pretty nice prints off of them.
    Oct 9, 2017 11:15 AM - danzca6: https://printedsolid.com/collections/3d-printers/products/cr10s
    Oct 9, 2017 11:15 AM - danzca6: It has the filament runout sensor and the dual leadscrews
    Oct 9, 2017 12:30 PM - WheresWaldo: Geof is out of pocket until later this evening, I sure he will respond then.
    Oct 9, 2017 12:54 PM - Geof: Hey guys, got a quick minute. The CR10 is alot of printer for the dollar but yes buy from Printed solid. I had the first gen and had to replace all the fans with good ones, the powersupply, and a 2nd lead screw. Any from Matt will make a good printer. If heavy use expect some R and M. I have alot of hours on mine and am happy with it now. Maybe (MAYBE) spend 200.00 in total replacement parts and upgrades to get to what Matt sells now.
    Oct 9, 2017 12:55 PM - Geof: be back later, Jim feel free to PM me and I can answer any and all questions you or him have when available. Can send photos or prints your way as well if wanted.
    Oct 9, 2017 2:11 PM - Dan: What's going on today guys
    Oct 9, 2017 2:20 PM - Geof: Hi Dan
    Oct 9, 2017 2:20 PM - Geof: In and out of meetings, yuk. HBU
    Oct 9, 2017 2:26 PM - Dan: Busy as heck over here
    Oct 9, 2017 2:28 PM - Geof: Anything cool ?
    Oct 9, 2017 3:58 PM - jim3Dbot: Just a minute to say, THANKS danz & geof.....appreciate your help....Oh! Luv my mod'ed R1
    Oct 9, 2017 6:50 PM - daniel871: Zortrax must be getting ready to announce a new model. The M300 just went from $4,995 to $2,999 & it includes 6 spools of filament.
     
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    Oct 10, 2017 4:20 AM - danzca6: https://github.com/MarlinFirmware/Marlin/releases/tag/1.1.6
    Oct 10, 2017 4:20 AM - danzca6: Looks like a couple worthy improvements/fixes
    Oct 10, 2017 5:17 AM - Geof: Daniel, thats a heck of a price jump. I miss the days when you bought x amount of filament the printer was shipped with the order lol.
    Oct 10, 2017 5:17 AM - Geof: Like XYZ likes to do lol
    Oct 10, 2017 6:08 AM - Bill Monroe: Wow.. LA is on fire
    Oct 10, 2017 6:16 AM - Geof: oh yea?
    Oct 10, 2017 6:24 AM - Bill Monroe: ya.. hills near disneyland 11K acres.. homes and a Hilton Hotel on fire atm
    Oct 10, 2017 6:25 AM - Bill Monroe: October is fire season here... water dumping planes and helicopters started arriving a couple of weeks ago
    Oct 10, 2017 6:25 AM - Geof: oh wow. not good!
    Oct 10, 2017 6:26 AM - Bill Monroe: got my last Jedi tix yesterday :)
    Oct 10, 2017 6:26 AM - Geof: nice! I still havent seen the last one lol
    Oct 10, 2017 6:27 AM - Bill Monroe: <-- knows a Regal Cinema Franchise owner
    Oct 10, 2017 6:33 AM - Bill Monroe: dozens of homes in Santa Rosa gone.. whole subdivision blocks
    Oct 10, 2017 6:33 AM - Bill Monroe: makes a tornado look like a little breeze
    Oct 10, 2017 6:41 AM - Geof: yikes no good. Hopefully they evacuated.
    Oct 10, 2017 7:20 AM - Geof: Hi Danz! :D
    Oct 10, 2017 9:00 AM - danzca6: Hey Geof
    Oct 10, 2017 9:00 AM - danzca6: See the new bling from E3D https://e3d-online.com/v6-gold-hotend
    Oct 10, 2017 9:08 AM - danzca6: no titanium heatbreak or ruby nozzle, but.... hahaha
    Oct 10, 2017 9:14 AM - Geof: lol I just want function ;)
    Oct 10, 2017 9:14 AM - Geof: dont need nothin fancy that gets hidden away anyway ;)
    Oct 10, 2017 9:15 AM - danzca6: well everyone knows the golden goose lays golden eggs...so this should lay golden filament right? hahaha
    Oct 10, 2017 9:15 AM - danzca6: Wonder if Matt will even carry it
    Oct 10, 2017 9:17 AM - Geof: People will buy it, I have no doubt about that, just not me :D lol
    Oct 10, 2017 9:19 AM - danzca6: ROI has to be a consideration when it isn't just a hobby
    Oct 10, 2017 9:19 AM - danzca6: now the temps can reach far higher if you need to print with 400C filament
    Oct 10, 2017 9:22 AM - Geof: but can the thermistor :D lol the PT100 dead ends at 400.
    Oct 10, 2017 9:22 AM - Geof: So Peek and Ultem are still to close to the threshold
    Oct 10, 2017 9:25 AM - danzca6: just turn it to 11
    Oct 10, 2017 9:37 AM - Geof: lol
    Oct 10, 2017 10:55 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Oct 10, 2017 11:05 AM - Geof: Hi Daniel. How goes it.
    Oct 10, 2017 11:14 AM - Dan: Yo
    Oct 10, 2017 11:14 AM - Dan: We need more people in here
    Oct 10, 2017 11:15 AM - Dan: How's everyone doing?
    Oct 10, 2017 11:18 AM - danzca6: Doing great...how about you Dan
    Oct 10, 2017 11:53 AM - Geof: Hey Dan, you missed the years when it was active :D
    Oct 10, 2017 11:53 AM - Geof: well, crazy active. Now most you'll find is troubleshooting.
    Oct 10, 2017 11:57 AM - Dan: Yeah?
    Oct 10, 2017 11:57 AM - Dan: Darn
    Oct 10, 2017 11:57 AM - Dan: I am doing well thanks
    Oct 10, 2017 11:57 AM - Dan: Geoff - were you the one who wanted the modified fan duct for 3x30mm fan that I made?
    Oct 10, 2017 11:59 AM - Geof: Waldo and I both yes sir.
    Oct 10, 2017 12:00 PM - Geof: Dan I think Robo promotes more of the facebook page/group vs the forum.
    Oct 10, 2017 12:00 PM - Dan: [​IMG]
    Oct 10, 2017 12:00 PM - Geof: Forum gets the troubleshooting :D
    Oct 10, 2017 12:00 PM - Dan: https://imgur.com/ppoR2kI
    Oct 10, 2017 12:01 PM - Dan: I am having problems with A360 so that's why i havent sent a link yet
    Oct 10, 2017 12:01 PM - Geof: Totally understand. Can just export the fusion file and attach to a PM if you want.
    Oct 10, 2017 12:01 PM - Geof: or a .step
    Oct 10, 2017 12:01 PM - Geof: Fusion takes a little getting use to for sure.
    Oct 10, 2017 12:02 PM - Dan: I made it in fusion
    Oct 10, 2017 12:03 PM - Geof: yes can export the fusion file where other fusion users (myself and waldo) can open and view it.
    Oct 10, 2017 12:04 PM - Dan: I know lol
    Oct 10, 2017 12:04 PM - Dan: He was insisting on A360
    Oct 10, 2017 12:05 PM - Dan: Jason sent an invite but there is something going on and it says encountered a problem blah blah so i had to post in their forum
    Oct 10, 2017 12:08 PM - Dan: I just sent it to you guys
    Oct 10, 2017 12:09 PM - Geof: awesome. Thank you ! Just got it .
    Oct 10, 2017 12:10 PM - Geof: how goes it at Robo HQ today
    Oct 10, 2017 12:53 PM - Dan: good man
    Oct 10, 2017 12:54 PM - Dan: Geof - Ryan just told me your pogo pins went out?
    Oct 10, 2017 12:59 PM - Geof: yessir.
    Oct 10, 2017 1:00 PM - Geof: The springs failed and no longer allow the pogo to make connection to the bed so get the "error detected Connection Interrupted" message
    Oct 10, 2017 1:01 PM - Geof: I believe Ryan and Jerry are both working on it :D
    Oct 10, 2017 1:01 PM - Geof: just happened last night so tonight going to attempt to bypass the pins to get it rolling again in the meantime.
    Oct 10, 2017 1:19 PM - Dan: Did they order a new one to be sent to you?
    Oct 10, 2017 1:19 PM - Dan: In the future, include me on any email with Ryan or come to me with any issues you have. Go right to the source ;)
    Oct 10, 2017 1:26 PM - Geof: Ryan was workin on a new bed, didnt want to waste a pogo if he had or was sending soon :)
    Oct 10, 2017 1:34 PM - daniel871: Pogo pins failing seems to be a common problem. Probably would have been better to stick with standard connectors rated for the heatbed current.
    Oct 10, 2017 1:36 PM - daniel871: Even some short wires with XT60 connectors where the POGO pins are currently would probably do the job.
    Oct 10, 2017 1:53 PM - Geof: They have a new revision to replace the pogos
    Oct 10, 2017 2:09 PM - daniel871: Are they rolling out replacement packages for everyone that bought one or just doing it on an RMA basis for the saps that actually use their printer regularly and run into it before the warranty is up?
    Oct 10, 2017 3:23 PM - Geof: I dont know the answer to that
    Oct 10, 2017 3:55 PM - Dan: We do not know when we are getting the new shipment of beds in yet.
    Oct 10, 2017 3:56 PM - Dan: Not at all.
    Oct 10, 2017 3:56 PM - Dan: So you def want to get a new pogo for now
    Oct 10, 2017 3:56 PM - Dan: I'll send new beds to anyone who asks me for one though ;)
    Oct 10, 2017 3:57 PM - Dan: @Geof i'll send a pogo to you PM your last name, address and phone number. I'll create an order for the V2 bed as well, and it will ship as soon as we get them
    Oct 10, 2017 4:16 PM - Geof: Hey Dan, i believe Jerry is shipping some ?
    Oct 10, 2017 4:34 PM - Dan: When did he tell you that?
    Oct 10, 2017 4:35 PM - Dan: I don
    Oct 10, 2017 4:35 PM - Dan: I don't see one in the system
    Oct 10, 2017 4:51 PM - Geof: Last email was a few hours ago
    Oct 10, 2017 5:23 PM - Dan: Geof, you here?
    Oct 10, 2017 6:03 PM - Geof: Hey Dan, in and out.
    Oct 10, 2017 6:04 PM - Dan: Did you get my email?
     
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    Oct 11, 2017 at 5:03 AM - Geof: I will check, sorry crazy week.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 5:09 AM - Geof: email sent back your way
    Oct 11, 2017 at 5:42 AM - Geof: Good Morning All
    Oct 11, 2017 at 5:42 AM - Geof: Daniel hows that MP delta?
    Oct 11, 2017 at 5:58 AM - daniel871: Working pretty well still. Went ahead and swapped in an all-metal MK8 heat break/barrel and a 0.8mm E3D nozzle to print even faster/never have to screw with the stock PTFE liner.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 5:58 AM - daniel871: Maybe $10 total for the parts and shipping from spares I had lying around.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 5:58 AM - daniel871: (ballparking what someone would have to pay if they ordered on their own)
    Oct 11, 2017 at 5:59 AM - daniel871: Printing some MPCNC support brackets every 30 minutes with it right now.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 5:59 AM - daniel871: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1800589
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:11 AM - Geof: lol thats awesome.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:12 AM - Geof: will be interested to see how it holds up with PETG heats. Very cool.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:18 AM - daniel871: PETG has been printing at surprisingly cool temps. 235C on the hotend and only 70C on the bed.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:32 AM - Geof: I think 70 230 were my temps when I printed with it
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:32 AM - Geof: V6 40 w heater core
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:34 AM - daniel871: The Maker Select V2.1 has to run hotter (260/80) but I think that may be due to how rapidly the heat radiates out of the heater block on that one.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:34 AM - daniel871: No insulation on said heater block.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:36 AM - daniel871: (but I'm leery of insulating it because the "cooling block" is literally just a block of aluminum with a heatsink coming off of it that a fan blows across)
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:37 AM - daniel871: Oh, almost forgot the other "modification". I put a PrintinZ "skin" on the build plate and modified the Starting Gcode to heat the bed, probe it, then heat the hotend before starting the print.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:38 AM - daniel871: It's nice to have something work properly. Barely touch the print after the bed cools below 50C and the print pops right off.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:38 AM - daniel871: But while printing it's held on pretty solid.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:42 AM - Geof: very cool ! Wonder if they will scale it up
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:47 AM - daniel871: Seems like it wouldn't be all that difficult to do given the way they framed it out.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:51 AM - Geof: thats what I was thinking as well.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:53 AM - daniel871: May need to leave room to add sound dampening foam to the inside of the frame though. There is a lot of machine echo inside the frame itself and I imagine if you made it bigger it would get really loud.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:56 AM - daniel871: Maybe have to bulk up whatever you call the "arms" that run from the axes to the effector for stiffness as well.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 7:11 AM - Geof: I could see that. Everything would just have to "up size" to be stable
    Oct 11, 2017 at 7:22 AM - daniel871: Experimenting with Vase mode with the larger nozzle now that I have enough bracket pieces. Printing this: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:150481
    Oct 11, 2017 at 7:32 AM - Geof: vase mode is neat, I like doing it when multiple parts go togather with a 1.0 nozzle :D
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:17 AM - daniel871: Welp, vase mode on the monkeys failed to actually print. There are enough horizontal surfaces on the model for it to collapse on itself without support.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:17 AM - daniel871: Oops.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:18 AM - daniel871: Reprinting using "normal" print settings.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:21 AM - Geof: yea I wondered about that with the file
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:29 AM - daniel871: I would've noticed it if I'd bothered to look at the preview closely.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:30 AM - daniel871: Feature request for Simplify3d, a warning about unsupported features if printing in Vase mode and a surfaces passes a specified horizontal threshold over a given distance.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:30 AM - daniel871: Just as an added faux-intelligence to help justify the price tag.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:31 AM - Geof: :p I think it works justifys the price tag ;) you want to much lol
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:31 AM - Geof: bahahhahaha
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:32 AM - daniel871: I know, but the free slicers have closed the gap far to much to justify it to a newbie just getting started in the hobby.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:32 AM - daniel871: I tend to tell people to take Slic3r Prusa Edition and modify it to work with the print area/etc. of their printer.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:33 AM - daniel871: And only invest in Simplify3D if they want to squeeze that little bit of extra out of multiple machines over a few rolls of filament.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:33 AM - daniel871: It'd be nice if you could input your machine's acceleration/jerk values in S3D so it could give more accurate print time estimates, too.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:34 AM - daniel871: I think Cura has that now, but I'm not sure about other slicers.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:36 AM - daniel871: Yeah, in Cura it's in the fdmprinter.def.json file, and you open it in Notepad++ and edit the values relevant to your printer to match what your printer's firmware does.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:40 AM - Geof: yea Cura (Ultimaker) is still leading the way with free. But in reality if you can afford a 3D Printer...you can afford to buy a slicer. Having a metric shit ton of machines, I wouldn't trade S3D for any of the free ones and am glad I bought it .
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:41 AM - Geof: now if I had one or two machines, maybe I'd be fine with cura or slic3r....I dont even use Prusa Slic3r edition anymore. Just S3D. Prints are identical at this point, just took some tuning (all S3D Profiles do lol)
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:47 AM - daniel871: Oh yeah, I use S3D exclusively, but I bought it back in 2015 when it had a huge enough gap on the free slicers to really make a difference.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:48 AM - daniel871: Made a few minor adjustments to my retraction settings for this "normal" monkey print and it's looking pretty damn slick so far. We'll see how it looks finished before I brag on it too much though.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:48 AM - Geof: Using the free ones now vs s3d there is still a large gap IMO. In many ways
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:50 AM - daniel871: I think a lot more has to do with the quality of the machine you're using too. A POS is going to give similar results no matter what slicer you use.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:50 AM - daniel871: (or a potentially decent machine that got dropped down the stairs by UPS without you knowing it until you got it)
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:51 AM - Geof: I wouldn't trade the S3D Print preview for any of the free ones. That alone has saved me way over the purchase price :D Expecially dual extrusion
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:52 AM - Geof: that said- my Startt prints great (100.00) with S3D and...well...it prints with Cura lol!
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:55 AM - daniel871: Yeah, but the Startt is a kit. How many people are going to put them together correctly that are utter newbies with no clue what they are doing?
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:56 AM - daniel871: Also how many people that know what they're doing value their time so low that they'd bother with a kit (outside of "Why the F not? I'm bored")?
    Oct 11, 2017 at 8:59 AM - Geof: :D Most people I know perfer to put it togather. Whether they do it correctly or not...well... lol
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:02 AM - Dan: Geof - I just walked by an R2 with a functioning dual extruder ;)
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:08 AM - Geof: Pictures of it didn't happen ;)
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:09 AM - Geof: lol. Send me the dual extruder, I'll compare it to my sigmas idex for ya ;)
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:22 AM - daniel871: Dual extruder/dual hotend or dual extruder feeding a single hotend (preferred)?
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:23 AM - daniel871: I mean, you have to do a priming pillar or some kind of priming/depriming operation whenever you swap tools anyway.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:23 AM - Geof: Dual Extruder/Dual hotend.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:23 AM - Geof: For now, I know they are looking into single hotend 2 extruders.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:24 AM - daniel871: Is there anything above the carriage that would obstruct something like a Prometheus/Prusa multi-material setup?
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:25 AM - daniel871: I mean, why re-invent the wheel on dual hotends? Just mount a more modern design and skip the bugs that go with the older dual hotend method.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:26 AM - Dan: It's a dual hotend
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:26 AM - daniel871: (like nozzle height alignment, the unused hotend continuing to "drip" filament, the unused hotend potentially clogging if the idle hotend has filler in the filament--woodfills in particular would be notoriously bad at this)
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:26 AM - Dan: It's a new hotend design
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:27 AM - Geof: Very intrigued to see this :D
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:27 AM - Dan: Geof, I don't think I can send any photos
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:27 AM - Dan: I'll need to ask Allen
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:27 AM - Geof: Thats ok :D
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:27 AM - Geof: I will impatiently wait ;)
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:28 AM - Dan: You get my email about your pogo?
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:28 AM - Dan: No pogo was on it's way to you lol
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:28 AM - daniel871: Seems like a tremendous waste of engineering time if it's anything at all similar to the old diamond hotend that had multiple inputs into the heating zone instead of the Prometheus/Prusa approach that does the switching at the cold end.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:28 AM - Dan: it does the switching
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:28 AM - Geof: Yes I got your email. Jerry was working on it, had an email from him late last night about sending a few. I appreciate you being on top of it. Havent gotten a ship notice yet.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:28 AM - Dan: Don't worry. It's pretty badass
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:29 AM - Dan: It will ship out today, I put it in last night
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:29 AM - Geof: I believe he was going to send a few over to keep me running while the beds were backordered but unsure whos doing what at this point lol
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:29 AM - Geof: Gotya. Awesome! Thanks Dan! Much appreciated.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:29 AM - Dan: Ha.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:29 AM - daniel871: Also a picture reveals very little about the actual mechanical dimensions of a design. It's highly unlikely that the design being cooked up is unique given the couple dozen different hotend designs I'm aware of that tried to work at the hotend itself instead of as an intermediate part between the hotend and cold end.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM - Dan: MAYBE I will add 1 more for you
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM - Geof: No worries either way :D I didn't get a chance last night but thinkin I can just bypass the pogos witha little soldering
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM - Dan: Alright - hang on... I'll give you a little peek
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:31 AM - daniel871: Remember this? [​IMG]
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:32 AM - daniel871: Or this? [​IMG]
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:32 AM - daniel871: Top view: [​IMG]
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:32 AM - Dan: No I've never seen those. What is your concern ?
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:33 AM - Geof: Dan, dont show the failed designs lol.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:33 AM - Geof: Daniel***
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:33 AM - daniel871: Those designs worked, but were hilariously bad about clogging if any of the input filaments were allowed to idle for "too long" and they had any kind of filler.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:33 AM - Geof: Dan, the diamond was a neat idea that didn't really work. I think his concern is not using something like the promethius or prusa. one out, multiple in.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:33 AM - Dan: Haha. Who designed thouse?
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:33 AM - Dan: That was before my time
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:34 AM - Dan: It is 2 independent hotends
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:34 AM - Geof: Those wernt Robo designs. They were some random company lol.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:34 AM - daniel871: That was one of last year's companies that had a bunch of imitators.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:34 AM - Dan: but I am going to custom-make one using the above photo and that's what daniel871 is getting
     
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    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:35 AM - Dan: I'll continuously intercept anything you order, and put that in place ;)
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:35 AM - daniel871: If you send the surrounding printer with it I'm game for testing it and posting a Youtube video about it.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:35 AM - Geof: LMAO!
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:35 AM - Dan: Nah, just the hotend
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:36 AM - daniel871: Put it in a Frankensteined R1 skeleton.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:36 AM - Geof: Dan, is the 2nd extruder bowden on the Proto R2s?
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:37 AM - daniel871: I mean, I would do that, but I don't have the shell of the R1 I used to have any more (still the bed, X and Z-axis assemblies, but no base/foundation frame to put it on or spare control electronics).
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:39 AM - Geof: Shoulda kept em ;)
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:39 AM - daniel871: They were cracked from Robo/Shipping.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:39 AM - Geof: :p mmmmhmmmmmm :D
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:41 AM - Dan: Geof, yea
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:41 AM - daniel871: I had some posts in one of the threads about the Y-axis issues on the original R1 where it turned out the binding on the Y-axis on the original printer I had turned out to be a cracked foundation plate that finished coming apart when I was swapping the Y-axis bearings.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:42 AM - daniel871: From before whatever broke forums searches to not find anything posted prior to the last forum software update.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:42 AM - Dan: What is it you want daniel? If I have it, I'll send it to you but you pay shipping
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:42 AM - Dan: brb
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:45 AM - daniel871: I just want to keep being the voice going "Hey, guys, there is a much wider world of hobby 3d printers out there that do a lot of things better than the designs we see here at the price point". Any real expectation of replacement parts/warranty work on the printers I used to have from Robo went out the window when I threw them away.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:46 AM - Dan: Let me know what you want. I'll try to make it happen for you buddy
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:46 AM - daniel871: (which was more a gesture of sheer frustration than anything else after taking the not-obviously-broken hardware off of them and tossing all of the electronics that tested dead)
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:46 AM - Dan: Geof - i just edited your order and changed to QTY2
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:46 AM - Geof: Hey Dan Thank you. I'll ship back if I still have a new one. Dont want to waste it.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:46 AM - Dan: Daniel, go ahead and tell me what it is you want. I can't just give you a printer though ;(
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:47 AM - Dan: I wish I could, I totally would
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:47 AM - Dan: Sounds good Geof - they are expensive little things
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:47 AM - Geof: I bet so. The board looks pretty custom for the R2.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:48 AM - Geof: I know Ryan wants to send the new bed when available and a new powersupply, I dont want to have a bunch of parts that others may need just hangin out at that point so will box up and send you guys .
    Oct 11, 2017 at 9:48 AM - daniel871: If you have access to order histories, take a look back at all of the orders associated with my email address (both warranties and just parts). I basically bought everything that wasn't the acrylic/plastic skeleton of the R1+ from 2015-2016.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 10:00 AM - daniel871: I should probably take a minute here to point out that my "hey, send me some stuff while you're sending out stuff" is about 99% yanking your chain. If Robo as a company cared about my opinion of their products they would have done a better job of supporting it back in 2015 when it was under warranty. :p
    Oct 11, 2017 at 10:04 AM - daniel871: (the main reason I'm here regularly is for the conversations with other members and occasionally helping to troubleshoot slicer settings--people are on their own hardware-wise though)
    Oct 11, 2017 at 10:06 AM - daniel871: @Geof I should be experimenting with that RaptorPLA from Makergeeks sometime next week. I'm still printing stuff to use up that oddball PETG spool I'm working through.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 10:07 AM - Geof: The transitional?
    Oct 11, 2017 at 10:08 AM - Geof: If so I think I have 2 spools of their PETG to use yet. About done with their ABS spool.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 10:08 AM - Geof: The raptor I'm underimpressed with. Wont be purchasing again.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 10:13 AM - daniel871: Did you boil the print and then subject it to stress tests?
    Oct 11, 2017 at 10:13 AM - Geof: yea, there is a change but part deformation is to high even at under the temps and times.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 10:14 AM - Geof: it warps the tops of the prints and the X was bad. Cant have out of spec, I'll just use a stronger material lol
    Oct 11, 2017 at 10:15 AM - daniel871: Odd. My testing of bog-standard PLA by heating it in an old toaster oven for a while didn't warp it. Wonder why they recommended boiling being better?
    Oct 11, 2017 at 10:15 AM - Geof: Dan- Just heard back from Jerry and got tracking info- thank you.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 10:16 AM - Geof: There was no difference I saw between boiling and oven, both warped with raptor, not with reg pla
    Oct 11, 2017 at 10:16 AM - Geof: not the bottoms, the side measurements and tops
    Oct 11, 2017 at 10:22 AM - daniel871: My test piece for regular PLA was just a cube. Probably should do something more complex that can still be measured with calipers for each material.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 11:09 AM - danzca6:
    Oct 11, 2017 at 11:09 AM - danzca6: Thought you might like that one Daniel
    Oct 11, 2017 at 11:26 AM - daniel871:
    Oct 11, 2017 at 11:49 AM - daniel871: Ok, RaptorPLA Transitional spool is being used now to test printing with basic PLA settings other than Makergeek's recommended temps.
    Oct 11, 2017 at 11:50 AM - daniel871: Supposed to be some kind of Orange color but it looks more like Bazooka Joe bubblegum.
     
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    Oct 12, 2017 at 7:19 AM - Geof: Quiet thursday lol
    Oct 12, 2017 at 7:38 AM - daniel871: Yeah, this Raptor PLA is weird shit.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 7:38 AM - daniel871: Two tests and the filament strips on retraction moves.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 7:38 AM - daniel871: Adjusting retraction settings to try and minimize it but basically shooting in the dark.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 7:46 AM - daniel871: Also it seems to drip/run forever at the recommended print temps.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 7:50 AM - daniel871: Check out the godawful surface finish, too. [​IMG]
    Oct 12, 2017 at 7:54 AM - daniel871: I'm sure there is some goofy setting I'm overlooking, but I'm just about thinking the Transitional Spool is actually just a Garbage spool.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:00 AM - Geof: Measure it. May be in a spot thats to thin (I had about 3 ft of to thin then a knot, then good again)
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:07 AM - daniel871: Did that when I opened it. Measured pretty much dead on for the first couple meters I spooled off before spooling it back up.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:11 AM - daniel871: Trying another test with lowered temp and lowered extrusion multiplier a bit. Not sure what to do about actual retraction.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:12 AM - Geof: this stuff doens't run like normal filaments. (the raptor)
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:12 AM - Geof: it has wierd settings. I had almost no retraction and it was fine lol.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:12 AM - daniel871: Standard PLA is about 45mm/s in the stock profile for S3D. Seems like speeding that up would make it strip faster, but slowing it down also doesn't seem like a good idea.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:12 AM - daniel871: For retraction
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:13 AM - daniel871: 205C on the hotend and only 40C on the bed because 60C made it stick almost as hard as PETG likes to stick to PEI.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:14 AM - daniel871: If I knew for sure it wouldn't really start f-ing up I'd disable retraction entirely and just have it Wipe.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:16 AM - daniel871: Actually, that may just be the next test if the current cube fails.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:22 AM - Geof: i retract more like 25-35mm/s
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:25 AM - daniel871: I'll give 25 a shot here. The cube failed literally right after I posted that.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:27 AM - daniel871: It's a bit aggravating tuning a profile for new filament after a string of send-and-print with no issues on a filament I'm familiar with.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:28 AM - Geof: give it a go. for my bowdens I do more like 5mm retraction at 30mm/s or 25mm/s speed. Doesn't need to happen crazy fast, jsut fast.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:28 AM - Geof: lol thats 3dp man! Imagine having as many machines as I do and someone wants one thing out of a random material :D
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:29 AM - daniel871: 5mm would drag the filament out of the "melt zone" though. Shouldn't be pulling back any more than 3mm with the heater block this thing has.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:30 AM - daniel871: And I know. But I think this was the reason I left PLA behind, for some odd reason PETG has been really easy to dial in.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:30 AM - daniel871: Which runs counter to all of the "conventional wisdom" for printing materials.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:32 AM - Geof: nah PETG is pretty forgiving in my experience with it. PLA can vary by oem but typically also easy. Yea you'd have to adjust for your exact setup, just going with a general heres what I do. Remember when running bowden retractions must be longer than direct otherwise it wont retract :D
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:32 AM - Geof: lower speed with longer retractions is a good place to start
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:34 AM - daniel871: Man, the surface finish during actual extrusion movements suck with the settings I'm using right now.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:35 AM - daniel871: This stuff looks like chewed bubblegum.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:36 AM - daniel871: Looks like over-extrusion, but the extruder calibration is correct (command to extrude 100mm pulls 100mm off spool). Hm.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:43 AM - OutsourcedGuru: This guy seems to have dialed in the Raptor PLA (aepinshot) https://www.thingiverse.com/groups/flashforge/topic:12270
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:47 AM - daniel871: Welp, 25mm/s retraction just resulted in a proper clog.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:50 AM - daniel871: I've read that thread already when looking for retraction settings. Otherwise using the exact settings he used. Thinking the material is just junk since it was the Transitional spool.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:52 AM - daniel871: And the filament snapped off at the extruder end of the bowden tube when trying to pull it back out. Now I've got to disassemble things.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 8:54 AM - Geof: Good lord. Yea swap it out and see what shakes. I wouldn't think the material but if they did some crazy part this material switching to part that material it will be a nightmare.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 9:10 AM - daniel871: Yeah, this stuff is super-soft. I can squeeze it between two fingers and compress it.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 9:24 AM - Geof: my new rolls are the same way. Might be great materials but I have a hell of a time trying to run it lol
    Oct 12, 2017 at 9:24 AM - daniel871: Okay, swapping another spool on.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 9:24 AM - daniel871: Some cheap chinese knockoff woodfill shit.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 9:25 AM - daniel871: At least I assume Sainsmart filament is chinese.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 9:28 AM - daniel871: Okay, already looking much better just using bog-standard PLA profile in S3D.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 9:28 AM - daniel871: Only change was the retraction setting you talked about earlier for Bowden setups.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 9:29 AM - daniel871: Has that semi-porous look Woodfill can get if the filler content is high enough.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 9:46 AM - daniel871: Yay, the cube actually finished, so I know it's not a generic PLA setting thing.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 10:03 AM - daniel871: Ok, cube finished, but the nozzle clogged somehow after the print was done? Shit.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 10:10 AM - daniel871: Got that cleared. Good thing the .8 nozzle is on there and I can easily punch clogs with a straightened out staple.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 10:11 AM - daniel871: Okay, trying the Deprime object with the ending Gcode changed to just kick the filament out since Woodfill is bad about clogging if it sits in the hotend anyway.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 10:44 AM - daniel871: Failed in just about every way on the depriming, or even finishing the print. No clog though and filament was ejected as planned. Odd. [​IMG]
    Oct 12, 2017 at 11:11 AM - Geof: lol! I love the bed material though :D
    Oct 12, 2017 at 11:40 AM - daniel871: Yeah, the PrintinZ skin instructions recommended covering the bed with masking tape before applying the skin. I ended up putting a few extra pieces of tape on the outer edges of the skin because it insists on trying to curl up when the bed heats up.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 11:46 AM - daniel871: I think I'm going to put the 0.4mm nozzle back on, I'm not really saving that much time on printing things for the extra ooze issues using a larger nozzle brings.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 11:47 AM - daniel871: Not on the small build area this printer has anyway.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 12:12 PM - Geof: Should be a massive difference unless you didn't thin up your walls.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 12:12 PM - Geof: 2x the extrusion
    Oct 12, 2017 at 12:14 PM - Geof: if your still doing 4 or 5 walls it will be about the same time. I think .8 I typically do 2 (1.6mm walls) with a .3 or .4 layer height to keep the quality and its considerably faster.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 12:15 PM - Geof: also infill gets turned down since the thicker infill bridges easier.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 12:15 PM - Geof: (thicker infill/extrusion)
    Oct 12, 2017 at 12:32 PM - daniel871: Sure, half the time, but most of the "long" prints I'd do would be things run overnight anyway.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 12:35 PM - daniel871: From my subjective experience it won't make too much difference. It worked great for rapidly cranking out a bunch of the same part the other day but for tchotchke printing to have it running like an extremely nerdy Newton's Cradle that makes things while Engineering is designing other things, it doesn't matter if it gets something done in half the time or not.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 12:59 PM - Geof: That is true.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 12:59 PM - Geof: Alot of the time I have clients that want stuff as fast as humanly possible that look "ok" so larger bore it is@!
    Oct 12, 2017 at 12:59 PM - Geof: my personal preference is higher quality.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 6:18 PM - daniel871: Oh, just had an idea. I think I'll try putting that old V1 Titan extruder on it. No special holder needed since its already a Bowden setup that screws into the motor.
    Oct 12, 2017 at 6:19 PM - daniel871: Mount it, recalibrate esteps, then go again.
     
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    Oct 13, 2017 at 4:57 AM - daniel871: Should've brought one of my spare motors with me to try that today. The one on the machine has a stripped set screw on the stock gear. :rolleyes:
    Oct 13, 2017 at 5:18 AM - Geof: lol most cheap fully assembled machines are done so poorly ;)
    Oct 13, 2017 at 5:18 AM - Geof: the details get em
    Oct 13, 2017 at 6:16 AM - daniel871: Yep. The thermistor for the hotend is using the old method of holding it on with kapton tape.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 6:17 AM - daniel871: Holding up surprisingly much better than other hotends that used screws to hold the delicate glass beads inside a hole that would result in a cracked thermistor if tightened too much.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 6:23 AM - Geof: I like wrapping the heatblock in some Kapton anyway :D
    Oct 13, 2017 at 6:23 AM - Geof: the glass beat works well but you gotta be spot on with your bends, I think this is why most are going to the canistor (assuming)
    Oct 13, 2017 at 6:27 AM - daniel871: I think the canister is just so it's easy to install instead of the hassle it is the other way.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 6:27 AM - daniel871: For people with unsteady hands.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 6:30 AM - Geof: true
    Oct 13, 2017 at 7:59 AM - daniel871: I am getting so much schadenfreude out of Glowforge right now and how angry their customers are finally getting.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:23 AM - sgomes: More delays?
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:31 AM - Geof: lol I wouldn't expect anything else from them.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:31 AM - Geof: what are we on now? 3 years of "preorder" status and they are still taking pre orders lol.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:31 AM - Geof: best scam of the century me thinks :D
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:32 AM - sgomes: To be fair, they're already shipping. But yeah, super slow production.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:34 AM - Geof: latest formal update on their forum was nov 2016 lol banner at the top says they are shipping day 6 pre orders
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:34 AM - Geof: https://community.glowforge.com/t/thanksgiving-update/3519
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:35 AM - sgomes: Nah, they have an Oct 2017 one: https://community.glowforge.com/t/october-2017-update-latest/12301
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:37 AM - Geof: some light at the end of the tunnel lol
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:37 AM - Geof: IDK I wouldn't have made it since 2015 on a "preorder" for first gen equipment (they are always problem riddled regardless who makes them)
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:38 AM - Geof: yikes. lol. Would have jumped ship and bought one of the competitors proven cutters by now :D
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:57 AM - sgomes: Dremel are coming out with one in 2018, based on the Full Spectrum Muse
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:58 AM - sgomes: Glad I canceled my Glowforge order, though. Even made a bit of money on currency fluctuations.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM - Geof: lol nice.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM - Geof: Likely should have made some more for being a "early investor" int he company eh ;)
    Oct 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM - Geof: lol.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 10:16 AM - daniel871: Yeah, no, a laser cutter is something I'm not quite ready to invest in setting up in the shop yet. And even if I did, it would *never* be from a startup company. I'd save up for one of the higher-end packages that comes with the proper filtration/cooling systems.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 10:17 AM - daniel871: Too many mistakes to be made at the sub-$5k level on safety.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 10:19 AM - daniel871: I mean, this isn't microparticulate emissions like people worry about with ABS on 3d printers or questionable dye materials in PLA from certain vendors. We're talking "possibly releasing Chlorine gas if you use the laser on the wrong material" and I'm just waiting for some dipshit Glowforge backer to engrave a sheet of plastic and wonder why they got sick.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 10:20 AM - daniel871: (Because the Glowforge has ZERO protection for emissions)
    Oct 13, 2017 at 10:36 AM - Geof: :D I'm sure they will sell something eventually for that ;)
    Oct 13, 2017 at 10:55 AM - daniel871: Literally just an air filter with charcoal in it.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 10:57 AM - JeffTheMess: This place still alive?
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:01 AM - Geof: sometimes :D
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:08 AM - JeffTheMess: lol
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:13 AM - Geof: ;)
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:14 AM - JeffTheMess: anyone excited for the T3D?
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:16 AM - Geof: T3d?
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:37 AM - JeffTheMess: https://www.kickstarter.com/project...-mobile-multifunction-3d-print?ref=nav_search
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:37 AM - JeffTheMess: Ono's brother
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:39 AM - daniel871: I'm looking forward to the people that have their entire resin "tank" solidify before a print finishes on that setup.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:40 AM - daniel871: What with them not bothering to provide a cover.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:43 AM - JeffTheMess: I still can't believe people are still trying this phone shit.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:43 AM - JeffTheMess: Here give up your phone for hours or buy another phone with high res, at that point just buy the d7
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:48 AM - daniel871: Was it ONO or OLO?
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:48 AM - Geof: lol :D
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:49 AM - Geof: meh, as long as its not my money they can play with any ideas they want ;) not judgement here. It may work great when release ;)
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:50 AM - daniel871: It's OLO, and it's never getting released. Their last update was that they're recoding things to use Bluetooth to communicate with the printer from the phone instead of the audiojack (why the fuck was that ever the plan?).
    Oct 13, 2017 at 11:52 AM - daniel871: Someone that backed OLO mentioned the T3D in the comments asking if that was round 2 and they're abandoning the original campaign, lol.
    Oct 13, 2017 at 12:03 PM - daniel871: I posted this in the Glowforge FB group and some folks are getting really upset over me pointing out that the so-called Class IV machine is not adhering to very many safety standards that are required in the US. https://www.osha.gov/dts/osta/otm/otm_iii/otm_iii_6.html
    Oct 13, 2017 at 12:23 PM - Geof: I dont know anything about that stuff so cant really comment :D
    Oct 13, 2017 at 12:39 PM - JeffTheMess: it is sad people fall for it so easily
    Oct 13, 2017 at 12:40 PM - JeffTheMess: OSHA is fun stuff
    Oct 13, 2017 at 12:49 PM - daniel871: What really bugs me is when someone inevitably goes "I've done X in whatever dangerous industry for Y years without losing limbs/digits/eyes, why do we need OSHA?" as if there isn't a very long and detailed history of companies constantly putting employees into dangerous situations because they view employees as replaceable cogs in a machine.
     
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    Oct 14, 2017 12:24 AM - sgomes: @daniel871: Only the Glowforge Pro is class IV, because it has a passthrough slot. The non-Pro is class II, I believe.
    Oct 14, 2017 12:24 AM - sgomes: And they're going to have an air filter, but guess what: it's delayed. :)
    Oct 14, 2017 7:57 PM - danzca6:
    Oct 14, 2017 7:57 PM - danzca6: Great video on what open source is to some 3d printing companies.
     
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    Oct 15, 2017 at 9:10 AM - daniel871: The bits by the XYZ rep are hilarious.
    Oct 15, 2017 at 11:58 AM - danzca6: agreed...there are some that don't get the true meaning.
    Oct 15, 2017 at 12:06 PM - sgomes: Thankfully, the industry still has a ton of great companies that really get open source. But yeah, at the low end... Not a lot of chance of getting people putting in the time to innovate on top of proven designs and release those innovations back under the same open licences.
     
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    Oct 16, 2017 4:57 AM - JeffTheMess: Morning roboneers
    Oct 16, 2017 5:11 AM - Geof: howdy
    Oct 16, 2017 5:23 AM - JeffTheMess: how was the weekend?
    Oct 16, 2017 5:31 AM - daniel871: Too fucking short.
    Oct 16, 2017 5:47 AM - JeffTheMess: as always
    Oct 16, 2017 5:58 AM - Geof: Dandy weekend. Ran the Ultimaker for client work lol. Finishing up that job today then onto the next one :D
    Oct 16, 2017 6:22 AM - danzca6: PEI question....does PEI need heat to work? Can I use PEI on a printer without a heated printbed for adhesion?
    Oct 16, 2017 6:27 AM - Geof: No heat needed, but I always do :D
    Oct 16, 2017 6:34 AM - danzca6: ok thanks. not a fan of using tape on this printrbot simple pro. They have a heatbed upgrade that comes with a flex steel plate with PEI. not really wanting the heatbed as much as I just want the flexplate
    Oct 16, 2017 6:35 AM - Geof: get a piece of spring steel cut to size and put some build tak or pei on it
    Oct 16, 2017 6:35 AM - Geof: use adhesive backed magnet strips from mcmaster carr. If not heatbed you can buy the cheap ones
    Oct 16, 2017 6:36 AM - danzca6: I see buildtak has a spring steel kit
    Oct 16, 2017 6:36 AM - danzca6: I haven't used their stuff before
    Oct 16, 2017 6:37 AM - JeffTheMess:
    Oct 16, 2017 6:37 AM - Geof: Buildtak is ok. I use it on a lot o fmachines.
    Oct 16, 2017 6:38 AM - Geof: the startt uses the magnetic sheets with a piece of spring steel (same idea as you) and it rocks socks.
    Oct 16, 2017 6:38 AM - Geof: the stacker has the heat resistant magnets and spring steel and it rocks socks.
    Oct 16, 2017 6:38 AM - Geof: Chris uses it on his FT5 too but did notice the magnets zap alot of the heatbeds heat he thinks. I've not noticed on mine.
    Oct 16, 2017 6:40 AM - danzca6: sounds like a good deal then
    Oct 16, 2017 6:40 AM - danzca6: my son is already wanting to take over the printer and we both agree we need something better than tape.
    Oct 16, 2017 6:41 AM - danzca6: I am shocked by how accurate and nice the prints are out of the box
    Oct 16, 2017 6:41 AM - Geof: on the printrbot?
    Oct 16, 2017 6:42 AM - danzca6: It's also quiet(ish) compared to the robo. If I add using a heatbed I will need a full PSU that will just add noise and is an akward setup
    Oct 16, 2017 6:42 AM - danzca6: yep, the printrbot
    Oct 16, 2017 6:42 AM - danzca6: not the adoptabot ;)
    Oct 16, 2017 6:44 AM - Geof: I was never a fan of the printrbot design but everybody really likes the machines
    Oct 16, 2017 6:44 AM - danzca6: this new pro is pretty nice with the linear rails
    Oct 16, 2017 6:44 AM - danzca6: it is a bit odd, but seems to work well....and for what I paid it was a huge bargain
    Oct 16, 2017 6:46 AM - danzca6: btw, Jeff that is an interesting video on the injection molding machine
    Oct 16, 2017 6:47 AM - danzca6: I will have to look into that more tonight
    Oct 16, 2017 6:49 AM - JeffTheMess: wonder if it would better to get a wide nozzle and just use your everyday extruder and have at it
    Oct 16, 2017 6:51 AM - Geof: Yea at that price had I been not buried in that Robo I would have bought one too lol
    Oct 16, 2017 6:51 AM - Geof: I was in the middle of dismantling so I could clean it up lol
    Oct 16, 2017 6:51 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof, Marlin snuck 1.1.6 out while I was down with the flu last week. I have since modified it for the R2. I think Mark is looking over my edits for the C2 also. No planned version for the R1/R1+.
    Oct 16, 2017 6:52 AM - JeffTheMess: boo :)
    Oct 16, 2017 6:52 AM - danzca6: looking at the list of improvements, looks like there could be some value to the R1/R1+
    Oct 16, 2017 6:52 AM - WheresWaldo: JTM, It is basically 1.1.5 with just 76 changed files. it whould be easy for someone else to pick up.
    Oct 16, 2017 6:53 AM - Geof: I'm actually Running the R2 stock and not having bed leveling issues (yet)
    Oct 16, 2017 6:53 AM - Geof: working well so far (except a few things I'm getting parts sent for)
    Oct 16, 2017 6:53 AM - danzca6: yep....I plan on downloading it and doing the tweaks necessary
    Oct 16, 2017 6:53 AM - WheresWaldo: Configuration.h has minimal changes between 1.1.5 and 1.1.6 maybe a line or two. I just don't have a way to test it.
    Oct 16, 2017 6:53 AM - Geof: Danz- upload them files to the forum for others? :D
    Oct 16, 2017 6:54 AM - Geof: No way to test it!? Did you junk the R1?
    Oct 16, 2017 6:54 AM - danzca6: I will...need to take the time and do it this week
    Oct 16, 2017 6:54 AM - Geof: lol ;)
    Oct 16, 2017 6:54 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof, my R2 bed is warped. My R1 is in a box waiting for me to ask you to take it off my hands.
    Oct 16, 2017 6:55 AM - danzca6: in a box?
    Oct 16, 2017 6:55 AM - danzca6: poor R1
    Oct 16, 2017 6:55 AM - danzca6: what's wrong with it?
    Oct 16, 2017 6:55 AM - WheresWaldo: bad R1, bad printer! :(
    Oct 16, 2017 6:56 AM - WheresWaldo: Nothing, no room, as I was doing two PC mods at the same time I got the R2.
    Oct 16, 2017 6:56 AM - Geof: LOL :D I can add it to the pile ;)
    Oct 16, 2017 6:57 AM - WheresWaldo: Besides I don't need four printers.
    Oct 16, 2017 6:57 AM - danzca6: we never "need" more printers :)
    Oct 16, 2017 6:58 AM - Geof: ..... I'm starting to feel like I'm doing something wrong if 4 is to many ;)
    Oct 16, 2017 6:58 AM - danzca6: well, maybe if you have a printing service like Geof....but ...hahah
    Oct 16, 2017 6:58 AM - WheresWaldo: I do not count printers like bicycles, I have N bicycles I need N+1
    Oct 16, 2017 6:59 AM - danzca6: we all have our vices
    Oct 16, 2017 6:59 AM - WheresWaldo: Besides If I get rid of the R1 I can get me part ways to a nice commuter bicycle. Fenders, racks and all.
    Oct 16, 2017 6:59 AM - Geof: whats one of those cost these days?
    Oct 16, 2017 7:00 AM - danzca6: a bicycle?
    Oct 16, 2017 7:01 AM - WheresWaldo: I wanted a folding bike, but balked at the near $1K price, so I am going cheap cheap. I have a $12K Tandem and a $3.5K carbon road bike, so I am doing BikesDirect $500 commuter this time around.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:01 AM - danzca6: I have a nice commuter bike, but it has a 900cc engine strapped to it ;)
    Oct 16, 2017 7:02 AM - WheresWaldo: My wife is still the boss and she drew the line at Motorcycle, so I grew a beard to spite her.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:03 AM - JeffTheMess: hehee prize winner Waldo
    Oct 16, 2017 7:11 AM - Geof: lol :D I didn't realize how expensive bikes were! holy goodness. I havent been on a bike in....probalby 15 ears
    Oct 16, 2017 7:11 AM - Geof: years***
    Oct 16, 2017 7:11 AM - Geof: probably***
    Oct 16, 2017 7:11 AM - Geof: and havent been a good typer ever apparently :D
    Oct 16, 2017 7:26 AM - WheresWaldo: For most people Target and Walmart under $100 will do, especially if they only ride once or twice a year. With maintenance they can last years, but they are prone to breaking and use junk components so are designed to be in a landfill in two years.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:27 AM - Geof: makes sense...like everything else walmart sells lol. Throw it away and buy another :D
    Oct 16, 2017 7:27 AM - WheresWaldo: My previous road bike was in service for 27 years, before I took it apart and used the frame as wall art.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:28 AM - Geof: thats pretty impressive. That wal art is damn near as old as me :D
    Oct 16, 2017 7:28 AM - WheresWaldo: Not much innovation in the bike industry since the invention of the Safety Bike.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:29 AM - WheresWaldo: My current plastic bike (actually CF) will likely be in service for that long too, it stands at 6 right now.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:30 AM - Geof: Wow, thats pretty crazy, would have never thought of one being around that long.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:32 AM - WheresWaldo: That wall art is probably older, it was one of the very last frames that Gary Klein worked on himself before selling out to Trek (pre-1995).
    Oct 16, 2017 7:33 AM - WheresWaldo: There are tools for that old Klein that only one exists in the world and Trek owns it.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:34 AM - WheresWaldo: That is why it's wall art now.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:35 AM - WheresWaldo: Had a Titanium bike in between, but sold it to a friend about 11 years ago. He commutes daily, rain, snow, shine and it still looks like new when he cleans it off.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:37 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan appears to be gone at the moment, but to JeffTheMess, I am finishing up 1.1.6 UBL for the R1+
    Oct 16, 2017 7:39 AM - Geof: Does UBL actually work on the R series ?
    Oct 16, 2017 7:39 AM - Geof: R1***
    Oct 16, 2017 7:40 AM - Geof: meaning well does it work worth a darn or is old school mesh better and can it be done with the OEM mechanical leveling switches?
    Oct 16, 2017 7:40 AM - daniel871: Does UBL actually work?
    Oct 16, 2017 7:40 AM - WheresWaldo: Yep, I am pretty sure Ed Ferguson was using it.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:41 AM - daniel871: Last I looked at it there was a bunch of developer drama where when people were reporting bugs the dev was basically repeating that everyone else was doing it wrong.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:41 AM - daniel871: (a long time ago, admittedly)
    Oct 16, 2017 7:41 AM - WheresWaldo: Personally I like MESH better and it takes up so much less compiled space. But there are people that swear by UBL.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:41 AM - Geof: I have UBL on the gmax with the BL touch (Roxy has a gmax so it works)
    Oct 16, 2017 7:42 AM - daniel871: Is UBL actually automatic or is it functionally "Mesh, but with more wasted code"?
    Oct 16, 2017 7:42 AM - WheresWaldo: Drama is past, now all the drama is centered around 32-bit Marlin.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:42 AM - Geof: but honestly.... meh lol. It works but no better than mesh in my opinion
    Oct 16, 2017 7:42 AM - Geof: Dan the UBL I have on the gmax is run like autolevel- automated before each print...because I'm lazy and dont save the settings lol.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:42 AM - WheresWaldo: Automated MESH, with the ability to save multiple meshes for removable beds.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:43 AM - daniel871: Geof - Why not have a program that runs the UBL by itself and then ends with M500? Run it after a power cycle to be sure it's active?
    Oct 16, 2017 7:43 AM - daniel871: Then just go and post your regular programs so you don't have to go and run UBL every single time you print.
    Oct 16, 2017 7:44 AM - Geof: :D Because I"m lazy and prints on the gmax are always days so the extra 2 minutes for the UBL dance isn't a big deal to me :D
    Oct 16, 2017 7:44 AM - Geof: gotta remember...100 hour prints on the gmax are "quick ones" lol
    Oct 16, 2017 7:44 AM - WheresWaldo: That is how it is supposed to be used, then everytime you issue a G28 / G29 all it does is home and report that UBL is active and enabled. It only needs to level once.
     

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