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    Nov 17, 2017 8:10 AM - JoshYourITGuy: This headache completely destroyed my GeckoTek plate, I was crashing the Z left and right :( Oh well, I can always throw kapton or BuildTak on top of it. (or just buy another plate)
    Nov 17, 2017 8:15 AM - JoshYourITGuy: YES! [​IMG]
    Nov 17, 2017 8:16 AM - JoshYourITGuy: Just need to tweak the offset a fraction of a hair and I should be good. Thank you Waldo and Daniel!
    Nov 17, 2017 8:19 AM - JoshYourITGuy: Did they get rid of the M600 from the LCD in 1.1.6?
    Nov 17, 2017 8:21 AM - JoshYourITGuy: Ahhh, ADVANCED_PAUSE_FEATURE disabled, need to fiddle with that
    Nov 17, 2017 8:29 AM - jbigler1986: Also no need to login to imgur
    Nov 17, 2017 8:30 AM - jbigler1986: After you upload don't copy the link. Right click on the picture and copy address link and paste that in the [ing]
    Nov 17, 2017 8:30 AM - jbigler1986:
    Nov 17, 2017 8:30 AM - jbigler1986: [Img
    Nov 17, 2017 8:43 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Nov 17, 2017 8:48 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Nov 17, 2017 8:50 AM - JoshYourITGuy: That is doing it with style
    Nov 17, 2017 8:50 AM - JoshYourITGuy: [​IMG]
    Nov 17, 2017 9:01 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Nov 17, 2017 9:23 AM - JoshYourITGuy: /facepalm... http://www.gloucestershirelive.co.u...medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
    Nov 17, 2017 9:23 AM - JoshYourITGuy: http://www.gloucestershirelive.co.u...medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
    Nov 17, 2017 10:14 AM - jbigler1986: what the hell
    Nov 17, 2017 10:15 AM - jbigler1986: gotta cut off 16mm of that case. weird. lol
    Nov 17, 2017 10:17 AM - jbigler1986: wait. In S3D its 18. But when printed its 36mm
    Nov 17, 2017 10:17 AM - jbigler1986: z steps must be fucked
    Nov 17, 2017 10:22 AM - jbigler1986: hahahahahahaha
    Nov 17, 2017 10:22 AM - jbigler1986: z steps have been fucked up for days.
    Nov 17, 2017 10:22 AM - jbigler1986: idiot
    Nov 17, 2017 10:23 AM - jbigler1986: Just gotta laught at it
    Nov 17, 2017 12:51 PM - jbigler1986: wtf. it still did it. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
    Nov 17, 2017 1:34 PM - jbigler1986: Why the hell is it printing every thing double the size. Steps are 400 for z. All the microstep pins have jumpers which means 1/16th correct?
    Nov 17, 2017 1:42 PM - WheresWaldo: Leadscrews from Robo or your own?
    Nov 17, 2017 1:43 PM - jbigler1986: my own that ive been using for 3 years
    Nov 17, 2017 1:43 PM - jbigler1986: always been set to 400
    Nov 17, 2017 1:44 PM - jbigler1986: should i change it to 200 and just see what the is going on?
    Nov 17, 2017 1:44 PM - jbigler1986: want my firmware to to see wtf is happening
    Nov 17, 2017 1:45 PM - jbigler1986: what's the gcode to spit out steps setting
    Nov 17, 2017 1:51 PM - jbigler1986: wtf. said uploading done on firmware but it didn't take
    Nov 17, 2017 1:52 PM - jbigler1986: lcd still reads 800 on the steps
    Nov 17, 2017 1:55 PM - daniel871: M502
    Nov 17, 2017 1:56 PM - daniel871: Uploading firmware will not overwrite EEPROM, you have to refresh EEPROM per the firmware with M502.
    Nov 17, 2017 1:56 PM - jbigler1986: OH FUCK
    Nov 17, 2017 1:57 PM - jbigler1986: so just send m502
    Nov 17, 2017 1:57 PM - daniel871: In theory.
    Nov 17, 2017 1:57 PM - daniel871: You could also send M92 Z whatever and M500 and not have to burn the entire firmware setup again.
    Nov 17, 2017 1:59 PM - daniel871: M500 = Save EEPROM; M501 = Load EEPROM (to clear custom program runs from memory); M502 means load "factory defaults" (defined in Firmware) and M503 = "What is in EEPROM right now?"
    Nov 17, 2017 2:00 PM - daniel871: Running M503 and then pausing the Terminal feed can tell you a lot about what you can define on the printer with Mcodes if you compare the readout to the Marlin Mcode list.
    Nov 17, 2017 2:01 PM - jbigler1986: there we go
    Nov 17, 2017 2:01 PM - jbigler1986: now lets try a print
    Nov 17, 2017 2:02 PM - jbigler1986: thanks. that was pissing me off. Should be good now.
    Nov 17, 2017 5:16 PM - jbigler1986: Hola
     
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    Nov 18, 2017 5:18 AM - jbigler1986: Gooooooood Morning
     
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    Nov 19, 2017 at 6:25 AM - WheresWaldo: Morning Geof
    Nov 19, 2017 at 7:09 AM - Geof: Good morning Waldo. Happy Sunday
    Nov 19, 2017 at 5:40 PM - jbigler1986: Hello hello
     
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    Nov 20, 2017 at 5:38 AM - Geof: Good Morning
    Nov 20, 2017 at 10:28 AM - Geof: Hey Waldo
    Nov 20, 2017 at 1:58 PM - jbigler1986: What is happening
    Nov 20, 2017 at 2:14 PM - daniel871: Time for that end-of-the-year holiday sickness.
    Nov 20, 2017 at 2:15 PM - daniel871: As in literal sickness. Not some commentary about commercialization of cult celebrations.
    Nov 20, 2017 at 2:23 PM - jbigler1986: Maybe for you. I'm good. I very very rarely get sick.
    Nov 20, 2017 at 2:25 PM - daniel871: For me it's "Get sick any time guaranteed time off work is going to happen".
    Nov 20, 2017 at 2:25 PM - daniel871: So I'll get a little better by Sunday and then get sick again the week of Christmas/New Year's.
    Nov 20, 2017 at 2:27 PM - jbigler1986: That sucks. Hope not. Maybe this year will be different
     
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    Nov 21, 2017 at 3:10 AM - daniel871: So much for that. Woke up around 1:30 & puked up everything I'd eaten yesterday. Sat up shaking/chilled after cleaning up until it finally eased up around when I get ready to go to work.
    Nov 21, 2017 at 5:56 AM - jbigler1986: Damn. Sorry
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:18 AM - Geof: Morning all
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:21 AM - WheresWaldo: Morning.
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:22 AM - Geof: how doin Waldo
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:29 AM - WheresWaldo: Not too bad, just waiting on Insurance company pre-approvals
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:29 AM - WheresWaldo: Anything exciting on your end?
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:30 AM - jbigler1986: Morning. I'm running bowden. If you want to call that exciting. Lol
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:31 AM - WheresWaldo: :D
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:33 AM - jbigler1986: I modified the v6 quick release to hold a ptfe quick connect. Then modified Greg's wade to hold one ad well. So using mostly stock parts. Working like a charm. I will take a picture after this print is done and after I tidy up the wires
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:33 AM - jbigler1986: Reprinted the modified parts that is. Didn't modify the stock ones
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:34 AM - WheresWaldo: I am going back through Marlin 1.1.6 to see if I can clean it up a bit. I think I have a bad IR sensor
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:34 AM - Geof: got the Moai, Dagoma delta comes in today, sigma apparently does copy mode so gota update the firmware and get that rollin.
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:34 AM - WheresWaldo: I am most interested in your experience with the Moai.
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:39 AM - jbigler1986: [​IMG]
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:39 AM - jbigler1986: Wanted to leave a little opening so I could watch the filament being fed into the hotend
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:40 AM - WheresWaldo: JB should also help with increased print speeds, less mass to move around.
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:41 AM - jbigler1986: That was the main reason. Printing at 8050mm/s right now. I like the looks of bowden too. A lot cleaner
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:41 AM - jbigler1986: 80*
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:43 AM - jbigler1986: [​IMG]
    Nov 21, 2017 at 7:43 AM - jbigler1986: Current print. New idler with the filament guide closed so the filament can't slip to one side or the other
    Nov 21, 2017 at 8:56 AM - Geof: Hey Waldo, its going well. Good machine if build right
    Nov 21, 2017 at 9:00 AM - WheresWaldo: Had to call Robo Support to put in a parts request, Z Axis Max switchg was crushed so the R2 thought it was always at Z Max.
    Nov 21, 2017 at 9:13 AM - jbigler1986: I bet that is fun. Their support has usually been shitty. Sometimes they will get right back to you and others never. I got to the point where I found their number and called their building asking for one of the main guys. Don't remember his name anymore
    Nov 21, 2017 at 9:14 AM - jbigler1986: Hell at one point I managed to get Brandon Moranos number. Or however you spell his name
    Nov 21, 2017 at 9:56 AM - WheresWaldo: I hung on the line, was about a 10 minute wait. They put in a parts request but in the mean time I am just going to short the terminals.
    Nov 21, 2017 at 9:56 AM - WheresWaldo: I never use the Max Z endstop since I am using my own firmware and UBL
    Nov 21, 2017 at 12:00 PM - Geof: dagoma is a nifty little toy so far lol.
    Nov 21, 2017 at 12:15 PM - Blake Benefield: Didn't we have a guy in here at one point that worked in Pharmacy IT? On QS1 or something?
    Nov 21, 2017 at 12:18 PM - jbigler1986: I think Bill Monroe did pharmacy tech.
    Nov 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM - jbigler1986: Haven't seen him in a long time. Although I haven't been on here in a long time either
    Nov 21, 2017 at 12:20 PM - Blake Benefield: I couldn't remember
    Nov 21, 2017 at 6:13 PM - jbigler1986: Yep
     
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    Nov 22, 2017 4:29 AM - JeffTheMess: morning roboneers
    Nov 22, 2017 4:52 AM - jbigler1986: Morning
    Nov 22, 2017 4:52 AM - JeffTheMess: jb is back?!
    Nov 22, 2017 6:44 AM - jbigler1986: For now
    Nov 22, 2017 6:44 AM - jbigler1986: Been off all last week and this week.
    Nov 22, 2017 7:19 AM - JeffTheMess: nice
    Nov 22, 2017 8:00 AM - jbigler1986: Yep. Thank God. Had tons of electrical to run in our barns and setup security cameras in the horse barn. So I've been busy
    Nov 22, 2017 12:38 PM - jbigler1986: Where is also
    Nov 22, 2017 12:38 PM - jbigler1986: Where is waldo or someone else that's knows their shit
    Nov 22, 2017 12:45 PM - Geof: Getting help int he shoutbox is very hit and miss. Fire up a thread with your problem and someone will be along to assist.
    Nov 22, 2017 12:45 PM - jbigler1986: Meh. Not a huge deal to start a thread
    Nov 22, 2017 12:49 PM - jbigler1986: Just got some over extrusion on corners.
    Nov 22, 2017 12:55 PM - jbigler1986: Nevermind. My printers light made it look waaaaaaaay worse than it is. Looks fine outside of it.
     
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    Nov 23, 2017 at 8:05 PM - danzca6: Anyone find any good 3d printing Black Friday deals
    Nov 23, 2017 at 8:06 PM - danzca6: I see you can get the Robo C2 for 599
    Nov 23, 2017 at 8:06 PM - danzca6: The folgertech ft-5 r2 for $399
    Nov 23, 2017 at 8:07 PM - danzca6: Matt has some deals over at printed solid starting at midnight
    Nov 23, 2017 at 8:11 PM - danzca6: https://printedsolid.com/pages/black-friday-cyber-monday-2017
    Nov 23, 2017 at 9:30 PM - jbigler1986: Damn the bed temp on the folgertech gets hot as hell
    Nov 24, 2017 at 4:59 AM - danzca6: BF2017FT gets you 20% off folgertech's whole site today
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:04 AM - jbigler1986: Wonder what all they have. Not looking for another printer
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:05 AM - jbigler1986: Their filament is cheap
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:09 AM - danzca6: nothing high end for parts, but if you're looking for basic items, not too bad. The FT5 is a pretty nice looking printer. Lots of them at MRRF this year. $399 is tempting for a larger build volume printer. Hard to let go of the money though
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:09 AM - danzca6: Printrbot has 10% off their whole site
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:10 AM - danzca6: Buildtak has 10% off with BLACKFRIDAY2017
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:11 AM - danzca6: E3D has big sales with code BLACK2017 for 10% off site wide
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:13 AM - danzca6: Capricorn PTFE tubes are 20% off...still expensive for PTFE, but for those running bowden they say it's great
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:14 AM - jbigler1986: Just bought some ptfe. Lok
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:15 AM - danzca6: I don't have anything that uses it yet
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:18 AM - jbigler1986: I like printer faster than 60mm/s and I like the looks of bowden so that's why I did it
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:19 AM - WheresWaldo: I bought some last week, It is slicker than cheap Chinese PTFE tubing.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:20 AM - jbigler1986: How dare you assume most are chinese
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:20 AM - danzca6: My only concern with theirs is it has a smaller inner diameter. Great for flex, but if you have out of spec filament you could have a bad day
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:20 AM - WheresWaldo: It came from Amazon, so cheap Chinese
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:21 AM - jbigler1986: Mexico. Has to be from mexico
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:21 AM - danzca6: And morning gentlemen
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:21 AM - WheresWaldo: That was my concern to, but most of the not cheapest filament is down to +-0.02 mm
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:21 AM - jbigler1986: Hope you guys had a good Thamksgiving
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:22 AM - danzca6: Our thanksgiving get together was last Saturday...so yesterday was a great quiet day home playing games and watching tv with the family
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:23 AM - WheresWaldo: Morning all, spent the day with my wife trying to figure out where to buy our next set of tires, watching some TV and fighting the R2 trying to print ABS.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:23 AM - jbigler1986: Robo still hasn't figured out ABS?
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:24 AM - danzca6: Our big BF purchase this year is a new washer and dryer...old ones are 20 years old
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:24 AM - jbigler1986: Hell they only pushed back the R2 for like 3 years
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:24 AM - danzca6: you would think the R2 would do ABS better with it mostly enclosed
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:25 AM - danzca6: I see Robo has the R1+ for $399, C2 for $599, and R2 for $1499
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:25 AM - WheresWaldo: It's okay once the print starts, the problem is getting to temp on the bed.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:25 AM - jbigler1986: Our big black Friday purchase this year is another horse. Just what my wife needs. Not
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:25 AM - danzca6: they have BF sales on horses in IN
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:25 AM - danzca6: hahaha
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:26 AM - WheresWaldo: The R2 at $1499 is Robo price, the C2 at $599 is MatterHackers only ($200 off) the Amazon deal on the R1+ is a real deal.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:26 AM - jbigler1986: Nope. No sale on it
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:26 AM - danzca6: no, check robos site this morning WW
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:26 AM - WheresWaldo: Did they reduce the C2 pricing
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:26 AM - jbigler1986: But she had to have it today. Luckily only have to drive an hour to pick it up
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:27 AM - danzca6: they did
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:27 AM - danzca6: how many horses do you have now?
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:27 AM - jbigler1986: I like the looks of the C2 but I just can't get myself to buy another Robo product
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:28 AM - WheresWaldo: I see they are matching Amazon's price on the R1+ too, but you could have had it delivered and set up already without waiting on BF.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:28 AM - jbigler1986: After this weekend we will have 10 on our property. 7 will be ours and 3 we are boarding for other people. Getting 2 ponies Sunday for my kids for xmas
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:29 AM - WheresWaldo: So I assume telling you that horses are dumber than pigs is not a good thing? :D
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:29 AM - danzca6: ponies for christmas...awesome. Kids will love that
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:30 AM - jbigler1986: Pigs are actually really smart
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:31 AM - WheresWaldo: I know, that is why I mentioned them
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:31 AM - danzca6: pigs taste better than horses too
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:31 AM - jbigler1986: I will never own one. They are nasty things
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:31 AM - WheresWaldo: But a lot of horse lovers hate to hear that.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:31 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan not in some countries
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:32 AM - jbigler1986: Lol. I wouldn't know. Never had horse. It might be good
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:32 AM - danzca6: hahaha...I'll take bacon over anything horse anyday of the week
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:32 AM - WheresWaldo: I take bacon on almost anything
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:32 AM - jbigler1986: I would too.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:33 AM - jbigler1986: I will take a steak over bacon any day though
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:34 AM - WheresWaldo: So since you guys are up on all the BF sales, is there anything we can't do without (3D printing wise)?
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:34 AM - WheresWaldo: Steak with bacon wrapped around it, even better.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:34 AM - danzca6: I haven't seen any "gotta have it" sales
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:34 AM - danzca6: Printed solid has a lot on sale, but nothing really jumped out at me this year
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:34 AM - jbigler1986: I haven't either
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:35 AM - jbigler1986: Could use some more filament but don't NEED any yet
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:35 AM - WheresWaldo: Yeah, my experience so far, I have a stack of filament, more parts than I care to imagine, don't really seem to "need" anything.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:36 AM - jbigler1986: As far as non 3d printer stuff I didn't see anything good on sale either
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:37 AM - WheresWaldo: Yep, nothing I needed to leave the house for. Anything I need I can order online, but so far I have spent $0
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:38 AM - WheresWaldo: My wife bought some stuff from Kohl's and got her $15 off, My daughter bought her a new tablet and case, but that's about it.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:39 AM - danzca6: looking at getting a flexplate for my son's printrbot... PB has their heated bed upgrade with flex plate and pei for $116, but $16 in shipping. Buildtak has the flexplate system for $81 with shipping and tax...not sure which to get yet
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:39 AM - WheresWaldo: We are waiting a month to buy an XBOne X and My daughter thinks we need a 75" TV
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:40 AM - WheresWaldo: A lot of people really like Buildtak.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:40 AM - danzca6: yeah I know Geof does
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:40 AM - danzca6: never tried it
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:40 AM - danzca6: pei either for that matter
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:40 AM - WheresWaldo: I might buy a PEI sheet or two from Matt
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:40 AM - jbigler1986: Never tried any of that stuff. Good ole hair spray for me
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:40 AM - WheresWaldo: He will custom cut to size
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:41 AM - danzca6: he has that on sale today WW
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:41 AM - WheresWaldo: I am thinking, just in case, on the R2, while waiting on new heated bed.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:41 AM - WheresWaldo: Yeah I know 25% off
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:42 AM - danzca6: 25% off pei sheets
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:42 AM - WheresWaldo: I want to start trying some filled filaments, got a hardened nozzle from him last week.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:42 AM - jbigler1986: So are those mainly for like ABS and other filament?
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:43 AM - WheresWaldo: No works basically on all filaments, some require prepping first.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:43 AM - jbigler1986: I never tried flex or any of the filled stuff either
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:43 AM - danzca6: my concern with buildtak is the probe printerbot uses. Just hoping it's not too thick to trigger the probe off the metal flex plate underneat
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:43 AM - danzca6: may just need some adjustments
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:43 AM - WheresWaldo: ABS and PLA can go on clean PEI, nylon and other composited need glue stick or it will fuse to the sheet.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:44 AM - jbigler1986: Really?
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:44 AM - danzca6: brb
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:44 AM - WheresWaldo: Really!
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:46 AM - jbigler1986: Might buy a nozzle set today
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:47 AM - WheresWaldo: Brass or other?
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:48 AM - jbigler1986: Brass. I have .2 to .5 but want to go up to .8
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:49 AM - WheresWaldo: I have two of every size from 0.25 mm to 1.0 mm and about a dozen 0.40 mm I never use the other sizes, they just sit mocking me in a plastic bag.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:50 AM - jbigler1986: Been running .5 for a month
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:50 AM - WheresWaldo: I was using brass nozzles for things like carbon fiber filled nylon, then throwing them out after finishing up the roll. They are so cheap.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:51 AM - WheresWaldo: Did you notice much of a difference from 0.4 to 0.5 nozzles?
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:54 AM - jbigler1986: Not a ton really. Just printing a little faster. Quality looks about the same
     
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    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:55 AM - jbigler1986: Still adjusting settings for bowden so can't say a whole lot yet. Getting close to perfect prints though
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:56 AM - WheresWaldo: I might swap in the 0.6 mm nozzle I have
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:56 AM - WheresWaldo: Other than retraction peculiarities bowden seem to be a pretty good setup for fast printing.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:57 AM - danzca6: so JB, I just noticed that during your time away your girlfriend turned into your wife...congrats
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:58 AM - jbigler1986: Last time I used a .6 nozzle i had the extrusion multiplier set to 100 instead of 1. Took me forever to realize what the hell the problem was. Would spit out a ton of filament at first then strip it. Whoops
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:59 AM - WheresWaldo: :lol
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:59 AM - jbigler1986: Thanks. Got married September 2nd. We did a horseback wedding. It was nice
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:59 AM - danzca6: so still newly weds...that's awesome man
    Nov 24, 2017 at 6:00 AM - jbigler1986: Yep
    Nov 24, 2017 at 6:01 AM - WheresWaldo: Congrats, I would never have noticed what Dan did.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 6:01 AM - WheresWaldo: BRB
    Nov 24, 2017 at 6:02 AM - danzca6: I just noticed above you saying your wife wanted a new horse
    Nov 24, 2017 at 6:48 AM - WheresWaldo: Back, had to make breakfast for the boss.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 6:50 AM - WheresWaldo: Either of you guys used ColorFabb NGEN?
    Nov 24, 2017 at 6:52 AM - danzca6: I have some, but haven't used it yet
    Nov 24, 2017 at 6:55 AM - WheresWaldo: 19.50 from Matt in select colors
    Nov 24, 2017 at 6:56 AM - WheresWaldo: NGEN is supposed to be PET-Something, not PET-G or PET-T so some other modifier.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 7:07 AM - WheresWaldo: Ordered a PEI sheet and a roll of NGEN
    Nov 24, 2017 at 7:08 AM - WheresWaldo: Not that I needed either
    Nov 24, 2017 at 4:32 PM - jbigler1986: Of course you need it
    Nov 24, 2017 at 4:55 PM - WheresWaldo: What I really wanted was some wood fill or bamboo fill filament.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 5:14 PM - jbigler1986: Have you printed with wood fill before? I have wondered how that stuff turns out
    Nov 24, 2017 at 6:10 PM - daniel871: My experience with woodfill is that if it has any appreciable amount of "fill" in it, you want to print with retraction disabled to prevent clogs.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 6:10 PM - daniel871: Any "woodfill" that can print with retraction tends to have very little actual wood filler.
    Nov 24, 2017 at 6:27 PM - jbigler1986: How are the finished prints though
    Nov 24, 2017 at 8:01 PM - WheresWaldo: Most people set their retraction numbers too high anyway
     
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    Nov 24, 2017 at 8:01 PM - WheresWaldo: Most people set their retraction numbers too high anyway
    Nov 24, 2017 at 11:57 PM - John Wohlfeil: Anyone out there? I am jammed ... need advice,
    Nov 25, 2017 at 4:38 AM - danzca6: Here's a video with links to several filament deals on Amazon. Pla,petg, and abs. Some under $7/kg
    Nov 25, 2017 at 4:52 AM - jbigler1986: I'm not seeing those prices
    Nov 25, 2017 at 4:56 AM - jbigler1986: Found them. Had to click on his links in the video description
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:42 AM - danzca6: yeah I picked up some of that ziro blue and dazzle white for $22 total. Not bad. Will be good for a project and my son loves blue
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:43 AM - danzca6: and one day shipping according to amazon...will see
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:43 AM - danzca6: never heard of the totalpack brand, but they are using hatchbox images
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:43 AM - danzca6: thought of getting a roll of petg for 11.95
    Nov 25, 2017 at 7:41 AM - jbigler1986: I need some 8mm bore drive gears
    Nov 25, 2017 at 9:24 AM - daniel871: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LY4ZDAX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_tyAgAbQMGZHGS
    Nov 25, 2017 at 12:20 PM - WheresWaldo: Yeah, my Printed Solid order is on its way.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 3:16 PM - jbigler1986: Holy shot on the delivery date on those. Need to look elsewhere
    Nov 25, 2017 at 3:16 PM - jbigler1986: Shit*
    Nov 25, 2017 at 4:53 PM - jim3Dbot: My son just ordered the 1000mmx1000mm X-carve.......I'm excited for him.......
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:38 PM - Printed Solid: @WheresWaldo Thanks for putting your size request on the order! We got a whole bunch of custom size orders with no comments.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:39 PM - Printed Solid: What do you guys think about Robo size PEI sheets? cover the whole bed? Just cover the printable area?
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:42 PM - Dan: What do you mean?
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:43 PM - Dan: I can cut one for you if you would like
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:46 PM - Printed Solid: We've been cutting PEI sheets. For the R1, curious if people would be more interested in one that covers the entire print bed or one that just covers the printable area.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:48 PM - WheresWaldo: I couldn't figure out how to comment, that is why I used the contact form. It is for the R2 and I think it should bve 198 x 198, that is why I asked it stay at 200.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:50 PM - WheresWaldo: Hey Dan, did you print the fan duct yet?
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:52 PM - WheresWaldo: The problem with cutting it to R1 size is that people will put it in the wrong spot, since the R1 printable area skews towards the back of the printer.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:52 PM - Printed Solid: yeah, that's what I'm thinking too.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:53 PM - WheresWaldo: If it were to width and just maybe a couple of inches (~50 mm) longer that the printable area that might minimize that particular issue.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Printed Solid: We cut these a few mm over anyways. It's easy to get them a little skewed when installing. With an oversize, you can just run a blade along the edge to clean it. Or just leave it hanging off.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Printed Solid: ya.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:54 PM - WheresWaldo: So Matt you prefer the shiny side?
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:55 PM - WheresWaldo: I took sandpaper to mine, it looks totally matte now. Doesn't seem to affect the IR sensor any.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:57 PM - Printed Solid: ;D Nope. I prefer the matte side, but my partner prefers shiny and he had primary responsibility over the sheet side of the business.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 5:59 PM - WheresWaldo: For some reason I would think the small ridges would give filament more bite.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:00 PM - Printed Solid: That is true, but the shiny side does work fine. I just think that with a matte surface finish, your bottom surface looks more like the rest of the print.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:01 PM - Printed Solid: But of course some people love that shiny bottom surface.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:01 PM - Printed Solid: And it's easy to make the shiny side matte, but much harder to make the matte side shiny
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:02 PM - WheresWaldo: Naturally
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:03 PM - WheresWaldo: So did PS have a great holiday weekend?
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:04 PM - Printed Solid: PS as an entity did. As individuals, we all worked a bit harder than we would have liked.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:05 PM - danzca6: Anything new for cyber monday on the way?
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:05 PM - Printed Solid: how about you?
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:05 PM - Printed Solid: ya dan!
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:06 PM - WheresWaldo: Matt, when I was younger I worked retail in a mall toy store, from Thanksgiving to mid-January there were some 90 hour weeks.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:06 PM - danzca6: I keep checking the Black Friday page
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:07 PM - WheresWaldo: Dan I thought you were trying to say Bad Facebook :D
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:07 PM - Printed Solid: I don't think I'm going to update that page until tomorrow. Need to get a mailer out too.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:07 PM - danzca6: Yeah...that abbrev could be tricky
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:08 PM - danzca6: you were so right Matt about E3D prices
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:08 PM - danzca6: I noticed that some others having 10-15% off e3d stuff was just your everyday price
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:08 PM - Printed Solid: Thinking that it will be something with the economy line. hatchbox, CF economy, and materio3D. maybe elixir as well although that's fairly well picked over at this point.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:11 PM - Printed Solid: Yeah. I was pretty opposed to the idea of adding in shipping, but it really allowed us to drastically lower E3D prices.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:11 PM - danzca6: it was a good move honestly
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:11 PM - danzca6: And I like you have a point were S/H is included
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:11 PM - WheresWaldo: I am glad you did that too, I was ording all my E3D stuff from Filastruder but now what little I do order will come from you.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:12 PM - jbigler1986: Hola
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:12 PM - Printed Solid: Hey JB!
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:13 PM - jbigler1986: How was your thanksgiving
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:13 PM - danzca6: Filastruder needs orders over $100 to be free shipping....that makes it a no brainer to go to PS if in stock
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:13 PM - danzca6: Speaking of, Matt are you selling the e3d Aero still?
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:13 PM - jbigler1986: PS ships fast as hell too
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:14 PM - jbigler1986: Hey Matt do you have any drive gears with 8mm bore
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:14 PM - Printed Solid: Yeah. we still have them. They were "out of stock" for an unknown period of time because I screwed something up.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:14 PM - Printed Solid: JB, I'm pretty sure we have some hobgoblins with that bore. Need to check when I get into the shop.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:15 PM - WheresWaldo: If I order from both on the same day, generally Filastruder gets to me a day before. I am only 250 miles from Filastruder.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:15 PM - Printed Solid: Distance makes a big difference.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:15 PM - Printed Solid: Tim's pretty good about getting stuff out too.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:16 PM - WheresWaldo: I am waiting patiently until you get more E3D cartridge thermistors in stock.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:16 PM - jbigler1986: Just jump on here and send me a PM if you have ones with 8mm bore if that's not to much to ask
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:16 PM - Printed Solid: Although I think we're outliers in this community. One interesting thing with having maker box in house is I get a much broader view of how suppliers handle their shipping and it's pretty crazy.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:17 PM - Printed Solid: I'm embarrassed if something goes wrong and it takes more than a day. Some of these suppliers will be weeks.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:17 PM - jbigler1986: Cartridge thermistor?
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:17 PM - WheresWaldo: Weeks puts it in the Chinese time frame
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:17 PM - Printed Solid: I'll get some of those in stock. Our stock was pretty well picked over.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:17 PM - Printed Solid: These are domestic.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:18 PM - WheresWaldo: Yeah JB the newer E3D encased the glass bead in a 3 mm brass tube
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:18 PM - danzca6: Matt...filtering by e3d I don't see the aero, but I see it from doing a search
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:18 PM - danzca6: just an fyi for those looking
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:18 PM - jbigler1986: So is is kind of like the screw in thermistor
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:19 PM - WheresWaldo: I had the same issue with a few direct suppliers that didn't go through distribution. Of course I was selling bicycles and accessories not 3D printers.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:19 PM - Printed Solid: OK. Thanks. The filter may have a bug. Just use the collection. printedsolid.com/e3d
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:19 PM - danzca6: nice
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:19 PM - Printed Solid: yeah. I guess that's why you choose to have distribution.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:19 PM - danzca6: didn't know about that page
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:19 PM - Printed Solid: it's a secret.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:19 PM - WheresWaldo: JB it is not screw in, the stud thermistor is screw in, the E3D uses a set screw now
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:19 PM - jbigler1986: Secrets are fun
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:20 PM - Printed Solid: Ya. The stud thermistor is so much better.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:20 PM - WheresWaldo: You mean than a simple glass bead or the newer cartridge?
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:20 PM - Printed Solid: :( I said the wrong thing
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:20 PM - Printed Solid: Cartridge is much better
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:21 PM - jbigler1986: Speaking of secrets. I just found a bunch of parts that are yours Matt that you sent me like 3 years ago
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:21 PM - WheresWaldo: I think so too, but you can still damage the thermistor if you don't pay attention while tightening the set screw.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:21 PM - Printed Solid: lol! Yeah. I remember that.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:21 PM - Printed Solid: I can get you a label.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:22 PM - Printed Solid: JB, us carrying E3D parts is all your fault.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:22 PM - jbigler1986: I will box them and send them. Still in the green packages
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:22 PM - Printed Solid: just send me the weight and I'll send you a label.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:22 PM - jbigler1986: I bet the E3D parts sell pretty good though
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:23 PM - jbigler1986: And nah. I will pay for the shipping
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:23 PM - Printed Solid: That's what we were just talking about.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:23 PM - Printed Solid: They do sell well.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:24 PM - Printed Solid: Not that we do much in the showroom, but E3D parts are definitely one that people go out of their way to come into the store for.
     
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    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:25 PM - Printed Solid: I'd guess there aren't many places where you can go to pick up an E3D part if you need it right away.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:25 PM - jbigler1986: Lots of walk-ins for it
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:25 PM - jbigler1986: How is the titan extruder. Been checking that out just for the hell of it
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:26 PM - Printed Solid: Oh! I just remembered. I do have a bunch of 1.75mm clearance stuff in our mezzanine! It's all just random stuff from Maker Box, but I'll definitely get that listed.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:27 PM - Printed Solid: I think it's great. I converted my ultimaker 2 go with the titan and 1.75mm and it's great.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:27 PM - Printed Solid: My go to machine for pretty flexible parts.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:27 PM - jbigler1986: Sweet. Think I might order one Monday
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:27 PM - Printed Solid: We sold out.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:28 PM - Printed Solid: I should have more tuesday or wednesday.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:29 PM - jbigler1986: Well what the hell
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:29 PM - jbigler1986: Jk
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:30 PM - Printed Solid: XD
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:30 PM - Printed Solid: I had a good amount of stock then someone bought almost all of them on wednesday.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:30 PM - Printed Solid: I think it's panic buying. They're probably not even going to use them.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:30 PM - jbigler1986: Or reselling them
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:31 PM - jbigler1986: Or maybe they have a bunch of printers and converting them. Who knows
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:33 PM - Printed Solid: it actually was a printer manufacturer who also runs a print shop. Guessing maybe they had a rush print job that they wanted to upgrade a few of their machines for.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:34 PM - Printed Solid: They've been testing the pallet lately. I haven't worked with one of those. Would it make sense to need titans with a pallet?
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:36 PM - WheresWaldo: Palette+ is on my wish list.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:38 PM - Printed Solid: I don't like the gigantic purge tower that it uses.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:38 PM - Dan: sorry guys I was away - bring me up to speed
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:38 PM - Dan: so R1 pei. If it were me personally I would want the entire bed
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:38 PM - WheresWaldo: There are always compromises with multi-material
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:38 PM - Dan: waldo
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:38 PM - Printed Solid: absolutely.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:38 PM - Printed Solid: yeah, Dan, I'm thinking same.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:38 PM - Dan: You are using 24v fan on 12v so you arent going to get full power
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:39 PM - WheresWaldo: Dan
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:39 PM - WheresWaldo: The R2 is supposed to be 24V isn't it?
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:39 PM - Dan: it is 12
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:40 PM - WheresWaldo: For the fans or the whole extruder
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:40 PM - Dan: I am not sure what it is supposed to be, but after I saw your post I went and confirmed
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:40 PM - Dan: we have 12v and 5v connections on the mainboard
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:40 PM - jbigler1986: All printers should be 24v now. To easy and cheap not to be
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:40 PM - WheresWaldo: Geof said his fans are listed at 24V
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:41 PM - Dan: Really?
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:41 PM - Dan: I've got some here, I'll go grab them and chekc
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:41 PM - Dan: check *
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:41 PM - Dan: samples from different manufactures too
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:41 PM - WheresWaldo: The last unused power pins are 24V, I checked it tonight with my multi-meter
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:41 PM - Dan: Yeah that one is indeed 24
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:42 PM - Dan: How is your new duct setup working out for you?
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:42 PM - WheresWaldo: Duct works great. rear fan is directly behind the hotend heatsink
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:43 PM - WheresWaldo: Without the notch on the inside edges of the duct, there is zero air blowing on the hot zone of the hotend.
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:43 PM - WheresWaldo: Now if I could only get my bed to stay at higher temps
    Nov 25, 2017 at 6:45 PM - WheresWaldo: Dan, I posted a couple of issues on tthe GITHUB, Allan agrees with the leveling one, now if Victor would respond to the resetting EEPROM when running the Z-Offset Wizard, I might actually try the Official firmware.
     
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    Nov 26, 2017 at 11:20 AM - jbigler1986: Happy Sunday. Still have 3 hours left of driving. Been driving since 7am. Fuck me
    Nov 26, 2017 at 3:38 PM - jbigler1986: Finally home. Time to clean up the printer
     
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    Nov 27, 2017 5:56 AM - danzca6: Morning Geof
    Nov 27, 2017 5:57 AM - danzca6: Did you see the prices on enclosures from PrintedSolid? Pretty good deals
    Nov 27, 2017 6:01 AM - Geof: Hey Danz. I sure did, but am grounded from purchases lol
    Nov 27, 2017 6:01 AM - Geof: Hope you had a good thanksgiving!
    Nov 27, 2017 6:12 AM - danzca6: I know how that is
    Nov 27, 2017 6:13 AM - danzca6: we ended up buying some big appliances that put a stop on me doing anything crazy like buying a printer over the weekend
    Nov 27, 2017 6:13 AM - danzca6: really wanted to get the FT-5 for $399
    Nov 27, 2017 6:14 AM - danzca6: Thanksgiving was good. We had all the family stuff the previous weekend. So just my wife and kids chilling for the weekend
    Nov 27, 2017 6:14 AM - danzca6: I didn't get ANY 3d printing done though....oh well
    Nov 27, 2017 6:17 AM - danzca6: how was your holiday weekend?
    Nov 27, 2017 6:18 AM - Geof: not bad! We went to the ladys moms house. Played with the Moai a bit running parts. Messed with the dagoma some. Had some drinks in the garage Saturday with family lol.
    Nov 27, 2017 6:18 AM - Geof: Ladys grandpa was in the hospital which sucked but he is doing a bit better now.
    Nov 27, 2017 6:19 AM - daniel871: Spent the whole holiday sick and only getting out of bed to shower/wash bed clothes and eat soup/hydrate while bed clothes were washing, then back to bed and sleeping.
    Nov 27, 2017 6:19 AM - Geof: good lord Daniel, no fun. Sorry to hear
    Nov 27, 2017 6:20 AM - daniel871: Back at work, just started feeling better yesterday afternoon in time to return to work. Yay
    Nov 27, 2017 6:20 AM - danzca6: that is rotten luck Daniel
    Nov 27, 2017 6:22 AM - Geof: for sure.
    Nov 27, 2017 6:23 AM - daniel871: And my coffee maker at work appears to have died while I was out.
    Nov 27, 2017 6:24 AM - danzca6: now that is the real tragedy right there
    Nov 27, 2017 6:24 AM - danzca6: My Monday has been heavily caffinated so far
    Nov 27, 2017 6:24 AM - daniel871: Starts to brew, then shuts off before the brew cycle is finished. Which means either the water line is clogged or the heater is faulting out and it's safety-shut off is kicking in.
    Nov 27, 2017 6:25 AM - Geof: So far mine as well Danz. Big ole coffee followed by bags of monster lol.
    Nov 27, 2017 7:54 AM - jbigler1986: Morning. Anyone find any good printer related deals today?
    Nov 27, 2017 7:56 AM - JeffTheMess: morning robonauts
    Nov 27, 2017 8:00 AM - Geof: Designbox 3D has upgraded Sigmas and Type As for darn near 50% off.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:00 AM - Geof: Printed solid has big deals on hatchbox and other value brand and premium value etc.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:01 AM - Geof: monoprice mini on amazon for 154 bucks https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Se...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=2HCANXNCRY6D5EV2ERFG
    Nov 27, 2017 8:06 AM - JeffTheMess: anybody here ever use udemy.com ?
    Nov 27, 2017 8:07 AM - daniel871: Never heard of it.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:08 AM - danzca6: daniel...did you see this sale on the MP Mini http://a.co/aY3sxx6
    Nov 27, 2017 8:08 AM - danzca6: is that the same build volume as the MP Delta
    Nov 27, 2017 8:08 AM - danzca6: HAHHA
    Nov 27, 2017 8:08 AM - daniel871: It's actually slightly larger.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:08 AM - danzca6: I see Geof posted
    Nov 27, 2017 8:08 AM - danzca6: Nevermind
    Nov 27, 2017 8:09 AM - daniel871: The delta is 110mm dia. x 110mm tall, and the regular Mini is an actual cube build volume.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:09 AM - danzca6: pretty good price for a desk printer at work
    Nov 27, 2017 8:09 AM - daniel871: Yeah, the Mini V2 at that price would be better than the delta.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:12 AM - daniel871: (especially since my Delta is essentially a big paperweight until I put in a new controller because the stock main board cannot adjust stepper motor current and two boards from Monoprice cannot drive the extruder).
    Nov 27, 2017 8:14 AM - daniel871: So yeah, the thing with those Mini printers? They're great out of the box if you're fine with never fucking with anything and sticking to whatever slicer settings work after calibration for material.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:15 AM - daniel871: If you "like to tinker" then go with something more open source on the hardware end.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:15 AM - danzca6: I know V1 of the mini had good reviews
    Nov 27, 2017 8:16 AM - danzca6: haven't heard anything bad about the V2 changes though
    Nov 27, 2017 8:16 AM - danzca6: tempting if I didn't just buy a new washer and dryer
    Nov 27, 2017 8:16 AM - Geof: decent price, small machine. Kind of throw away if ya get me.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:17 AM - danzca6: I know the JATMN uses his a lot
    Nov 27, 2017 8:21 AM - daniel871: The V2 made some minor interface changes so that the knob actually worked properly and the Wifi capability was enabled by default.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:22 AM - Geof: at 154 bucks buy 2 lol. One for parts. :D
    Nov 27, 2017 8:23 AM - daniel871: Also they insulated the bottom of the build plate and added active cooling fans in the electronics enclosure to keep things from overheating.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:23 AM - daniel871: (according to a breakdown someone wrote up on Reddit when googling about it)
    Nov 27, 2017 8:23 AM - danzca6: yeah I heard the V1 could have wifi turned on with a firmware update. Could be interesting. Well...I'll check my piggy bank when I get home tonight. If they are still available and I have the cash I'll go for it.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:24 AM - danzca6: Better than an adoptabot I'll tell you that right now...hahaha
    Nov 27, 2017 8:25 AM - Geof: Bahahahahahahahah danz....mines still in the shipping box. Is that project dead or what
    Nov 27, 2017 8:27 AM - daniel871: Yeah, I haven't even bothered to unpack my adoptabot either. Did they ever finish revising the STL files?
    Nov 27, 2017 8:27 AM - daniel871: I haven't gotten a single email about it since buying the kit.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:27 AM - danzca6: I haven't had time to put anymore effort into it
    Nov 27, 2017 8:27 AM - Geof: I havent heard one word about adoptabot from printrbot since the groups were started
    Nov 27, 2017 8:28 AM - danzca6: Saw a guy on twitter redesigned for E3D hotend and RAMPS getting decent results. No printrbot refurb parts
    Nov 27, 2017 8:29 AM - danzca6: The ceramic hotend they sent I think is crap on mine. And they don't even supply anything for that hotend anymore
    Nov 27, 2017 8:29 AM - Geof: want the one out of mine danz?
    Nov 27, 2017 8:30 AM - danzca6: haha...I may need it if you're not going to build one...that is if I get back into it. This winter I should hopefully though
    Nov 27, 2017 8:30 AM - danzca6: The MP mini is one I would give to a classroom though
    Nov 27, 2017 8:31 AM - Geof: Ditto. I dont think the adoptabot is worth the headache for a school...at all. More trouble than its worth.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:31 AM - Geof: Startt is 100 bucks and a few hours to build. Mine has a bunch of hours on it and still going fine.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:31 AM - Geof: Both the same price point :D
    Nov 27, 2017 8:31 AM - danzca6: I see iMakr has a 7% off coupon going through today for the STARTT
    Nov 27, 2017 8:32 AM - daniel871: Woooo. 7%
    Nov 27, 2017 8:32 AM - Geof: lol :D its only 100 bucks new, I dont think you can go much cheaper :D
    Nov 27, 2017 8:39 AM - danzca6: yeah but 7% helps toward shipping ;)
    Nov 27, 2017 8:40 AM - Geof: thats true :D
    Nov 27, 2017 8:42 AM - danzca6: BLACKNL17 in case anyone is interested
    Nov 27, 2017 8:42 AM - danzca6: 3d maker noob built one over the weekend
    Nov 27, 2017 8:43 AM - danzca6: he's giving 5 away
    Nov 27, 2017 8:44 AM - Geof: how do you keep up with all these youtube people lol
    Nov 27, 2017 8:45 AM - danzca6: I didn't watch the stream, but saw it on my feed
    Nov 27, 2017 8:46 AM - Geof: ah gotya :D
    Nov 27, 2017 8:47 AM - Geof: Imakr is pretty cool for doing a kit like that (cheap as it is)
    Nov 27, 2017 8:48 AM - Geof: I added some build tak to mine and just let her print. results are better than I'd expect from a 100.00 printer. Not great, not bad.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:49 AM - danzca6: I almost got the buildtak flex system for the PB Pro this weekend with their 20% sale
    Nov 27, 2017 8:49 AM - Geof: MAKE ONE lol.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:49 AM - danzca6: I ended up getting the heatbed upgrade from Brook
    Nov 27, 2017 8:49 AM - Geof: even better! lol. Heat beds for the win! :D
    Nov 27, 2017 8:50 AM - Geof: probably my biggest gripe with printrbots is the no heatbed and super simple machines for the money.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:50 AM - danzca6: yeah I thought having a heatbed would be good in the long run
    Nov 27, 2017 8:50 AM - Geof: for sure. 100%. Even PLA likes a little heat :D
    Nov 27, 2017 8:53 AM - WheresWaldo: I fixed the camera tilt built into the R2.
    Nov 27, 2017 8:55 AM - Geof: Didn't know there was a camera tilt? I dont use the camera?
    Nov 27, 2017 8:57 AM - danzca6: hahaha...nice
    Nov 27, 2017 8:58 AM - danzca6: I see the new 3.0 Cura has octoprint compatability. I should get my pi and camera setup again and try it out
    Nov 27, 2017 9:03 AM - Geof: :D I wish the R2 had a standard sd controller. I hate octoprint :D lol.
    Nov 27, 2017 9:03 AM - danzca6: yeah the PB Pro doesn't have an SD slot...yet...going to do a little mod to get one and see if it works
    Nov 27, 2017 9:03 AM - WheresWaldo: Tilted 10°
    Nov 27, 2017 9:04 AM - danzca6: Not very PRO when it limits your options...more like the PB Simple NOOB
    Nov 27, 2017 9:04 AM - Geof: The R2 has a USB but....meh lol. I like that even less than octoprint. Danz I still have a few R1+ sd readers with the cables. You want them?
    Nov 27, 2017 9:04 AM - danzca6: I have one from mine still
    Nov 27, 2017 9:04 AM - WheresWaldo: You can put an SD card reader on the Robo Mainboard. The connector is there. Don't know how you would control it.
    Nov 27, 2017 9:04 AM - Geof: I didn't know it was tilted waldo. I turned it on in octoprint and its not, must be the mount and a work around in the UI?
    Nov 27, 2017 9:05 AM - Geof: yea not worth the hassle IMO, just load via octoprint and then close the window :D
    Nov 27, 2017 9:05 AM - WheresWaldo: The cheat on the Robo Theme. Time lapses are tilted.
    Nov 27, 2017 9:06 AM - Geof: gotya. remove the cheap and print a new mount?
     
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    Nov 27, 2017 9:06 AM - danzca6: I'm really liking the Cura 3.0 version and 3.1 will have a couple other features I have been waiting for...like printer controls like the old prontrface (sp). Now if they could just do custom supports.
    Nov 27, 2017 9:06 AM - WheresWaldo: I don't use Robo Theme, but mine is not a new cover, it is a small two piece adapter.\
    Nov 27, 2017 9:08 AM - WheresWaldo: CHeat is built into the way the theme displays the image, they use a common web transform to tilt it back 10°. But thast does not fix time lapse.
    Nov 27, 2017 9:10 AM - WheresWaldo: Danz, I also like the direction Cura is going.
    Nov 27, 2017 9:11 AM - danzca6: yeah it has come a long way
    Nov 27, 2017 9:12 AM - Geof: I still prefer S3D :D.
    Nov 27, 2017 9:12 AM - WheresWaldo: Competition is a good thing
    Nov 27, 2017 9:13 AM - Geof: cura is doing alot as far as things it should have had all along but S3D doesn't cost much (I spend more than its cost in filament a week) If I didn't have the print preview I'd be screwed. Tons of prints people want done and its a quick way to watch how it will print.
    Nov 27, 2017 9:13 AM - Geof: it is a good thing, but S3D doesn't seem to much care what other people are doing : D
    Nov 27, 2017 9:13 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof, How many copies of S3D do you actually own?
    Nov 27, 2017 9:13 AM - Geof: Just the one.
    Nov 27, 2017 9:14 AM - Geof: two license seats. One on my desktop one on my laptop
    Nov 27, 2017 9:15 AM - WheresWaldo: Is the license how many installs or how many printer?
    Nov 27, 2017 9:15 AM - Geof: installs. You get 2 seats (licenses) so 2 computers. As many printers are you can handle
    Nov 27, 2017 9:16 AM - WheresWaldo: More printers will amortize the cost lower. Then it isn't such a bad deal. If you only have one printer the value prop is a bit harder to justify.
    Nov 27, 2017 9:18 AM - Geof: I bought it when I had just the one :D
    Nov 27, 2017 9:19 AM - Geof: it runs a little over 20 now. Bought it years ago...2014/2015 sometime. so figure 2 years min. thats 75 bucks a year :D
    Nov 27, 2017 9:20 AM - Geof: running 20 machines makes it 3.75 a year per machine and that cost drops each year :D
    Nov 27, 2017 9:23 AM - Geof: flip side for average user with one machine if they 3D Print for say 5 years before giving up and moving on to something else S3D cost them 30.00 a year (so the price of a roll or 2 of cheap chinese pla) :D I've never had an issue with the price and love the support behind it. Even more so when I was starting out with dual extrusion
    Nov 27, 2017 9:28 AM - WheresWaldo: I think your 5 year estimate is very optimistic, There are probably myriads more people that once they experience issues, put it in their garage or closet where it will collect dust until their significant other insists that it go.
    Nov 27, 2017 9:30 AM - danzca6: Geof Cura 3.0 has a very similar print preview that S3D does
    Nov 27, 2017 9:31 AM - danzca6: 3.1 is going to enhance that even further
    Nov 27, 2017 9:32 AM - danzca6: If I ran a print farm, yes, but for me $150 is a lot of money for a slicer
    Nov 27, 2017 9:36 AM - Geof: :D alot less than a printer ;)
    Nov 27, 2017 9:37 AM - Geof: It could be optimistic but I know a great many people who have been doing it longer than 5 years as well :D. For sure use the free ones and if they work for you perfect, I wouldn't change I dont think. There are machines i use cura for if I have to, but not often.
    Nov 27, 2017 9:38 AM - Geof: frankly the PE slicer everybody is thrilled with was pretty dissapointing to me so I just tuned S3D to run my Mk2 :D
    Nov 27, 2017 9:41 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof, your view shows occupational bias. The majority of people on earth today have the attention span of a gnat, and about the same mechanical abilities. 3D printers were a hot commodity in 2015/2016. I am pretty sure the bulk of them are not in use currently.
    Nov 27, 2017 9:45 AM - Geof: possible? You may very well be the exact opposite though as well? A hobbyist typically looks at it opposite as someone in the industry.
    Nov 27, 2017 10:23 AM - jbigler1986: [​IMG]
    Nov 27, 2017 10:24 AM - jbigler1986: Decided to get creative after I found my tap and die set. Made my own drive gear
    Nov 27, 2017 10:25 AM - jbigler1986: Might try just it first. Or might tried it with a toothed idler I made too. Instead of just a bearing. Here they both are
    Nov 27, 2017 10:26 AM - jbigler1986: [​IMG]
    Nov 27, 2017 10:27 AM - jbigler1986: Sorry for the shitty pictures and ignore the nasty looking extruder body. Its just a trash spare one
    Nov 27, 2017 10:48 AM - daniel871: Who was it that was experimenting with drive gears from a MIG welder in a 3d printer extruder setup?
    Nov 27, 2017 10:48 AM - daniel871: This would have been back in 2016
    Nov 27, 2017 11:03 AM - Geof: no clue, dont recall that.
    Nov 27, 2017 11:17 AM - Kilrah: *is trying first polycarbonate print*
    Nov 27, 2017 11:17 AM - jbigler1986: I have seen those. The groove on those are very narrow on most. I have 2 welders and checked both. Both are way to small
    Nov 27, 2017 11:18 AM - Geof: Kilrah, you'll love PC. Its fantastic once dailed in.
    Nov 27, 2017 11:19 AM - Kilrah: really? cool
    Nov 27, 2017 11:19 AM - Kilrah: the couple of stuff I just googled to see what settings to start with make it sound like it should go straight in the trash lol
    Nov 27, 2017 11:19 AM - Kilrah: "more diffiult than ABS"
    Nov 27, 2017 11:21 AM - Kilrah: that benchy is starting nicely though
    Nov 27, 2017 11:22 AM - Kilrah: [​IMG]
    Nov 27, 2017 11:22 AM - Kilrah: that benchy is starting nicely though
    Nov 27, 2017 11:22 AM - Kilrah: I also bought some ASA to try
    Nov 27, 2017 11:23 AM - Geof: I print it around 260 C on the hotend (250 for pretty stuff) and 90C on the bed or 80C with buildtak.
    Nov 27, 2017 11:23 AM - Geof: I think....Would have to pull up my profiles to check the bed temp, but hot lol.
    Nov 27, 2017 11:24 AM - WheresWaldo: Hey Kilrah, your screen capture is tilted, I had to crane my neck to look at it.
    Nov 27, 2017 11:24 AM - WheresWaldo: :D
    Nov 27, 2017 12:09 PM - jbigler1986: To bad waldo. Lol
    Nov 27, 2017 12:21 PM - daniel871: OK. Configured the test Marlin firmware for the Mega/Ramps I'm going to put in the Mini delta sometime tomorrow. Get everything mounted and wired in, then it's calibration/testing time.
    Nov 27, 2017 12:23 PM - daniel871: (from spare parts bin)
    Nov 27, 2017 12:46 PM - Kilrah: Came out great
    Nov 27, 2017 12:47 PM - Kilrah: a little bit of stringing between the pillars... bit too hot I guess?
    Nov 27, 2017 12:47 PM - Kilrah: was at 265/90
    Nov 27, 2017 12:47 PM - Kilrah: seems very strong
    Nov 27, 2017 12:48 PM - Kilrah: @WheresWaldo LOL
    Nov 27, 2017 1:00 PM - WheresWaldo: I am assuming your Benchy is what came out great?
    Nov 27, 2017 1:31 PM - Kilrah: yup
    Nov 27, 2017 1:51 PM - Kilrah: BUT I also printed a set of your camera holder thingies, don't worry :D
    Nov 27, 2017 1:51 PM - Kilrah: could try my new snow white PETG with them...
    Nov 27, 2017 4:10 PM - jbigler1986: Hola
    Nov 27, 2017 5:00 PM - jbigler1986: Got bench going right now at 100mm/s with my home made drive gear
     
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    Nov 28, 2017 at 5:43 AM - daniel871: Hm. Odd problem. I have firmware flashed to the board, but there is no feedback coming back to the Machine Control Panel in S3D after "connecting". I get the EEPROM feedback (printer name, stored settings, etc.), but the printer doesn't respond to the M105 S3D is sending and no commands seem to go through or do anything.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 6:51 AM - jbigler1986: That is odd. Ramps bad?
    Nov 28, 2017 at 7:44 AM - daniel871: I have no real way to tell, no errors come back, but then, nothing comes back beyond the initial Connection responses. I hate having no real diagnostics to check.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 8:24 AM - daniel871: Ah, disabling flow control in S3D (previously had to be enabled to communicate with stock board) opened up communication.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 8:25 AM - daniel871: Temperature readings, check. Fan controls, check. Homing... Failed.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 8:25 AM - daniel871: As in, I hit Home and the Terminal immediately responds with "Homing Failed" instead of any movement on the part of the motors.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 8:26 AM - daniel871: M119 says the endstops are open.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 8:26 AM - daniel871: Hm...
    Nov 28, 2017 at 8:42 AM - daniel871: What would happen if you'd somehow inadvertently installed the stepper drivers backwards? Would something burn up or would they just not work?
    Nov 28, 2017 at 8:47 AM - WheresWaldo: The could burn up It's not the same as installing a stepper plug backwards
    Nov 28, 2017 at 8:49 AM - daniel871: Hm.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 8:49 AM - daniel871: Just trying to think of things that I could have gotten wrong carelessly.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 8:50 AM - daniel871: No smoke was released, but would they even get enough current for that to be an issue?
    Nov 28, 2017 at 8:54 AM - daniel871: Okay, confirmed stepper drivers were installed backwards. Flipped them around and steppers now move.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 8:54 AM - daniel871: Weird.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 8:54 AM - daniel871: Now to very carefully try homing.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:12 AM - daniel871: Well that was nerve-wracking. Endstops are reporting open when the carriage is away from home but they aren't triggering when homing.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:41 AM - jbigler1986: Getting there slowly. Yeah if you look at the underside of the drivers they normally have at least ground and direction marked so you don't install backwards. It happens
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:46 AM - daniel871: Anybody configured opto-endstops in Marlin? Something is off here and I'm not sure which variable is the culprit.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:47 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan there are defines that can invert the logic of the endstops.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:48 AM - daniel871: I've tried with logic inversion both True and False. All that changes is the Open/Triggered status, actual position of the carriage doesn't seem to register with regard to being present in the sensor area/not present.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:49 AM - WheresWaldo: Is it a standard switch used for endstops.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:50 AM - daniel871: Seems to be..
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:50 AM - daniel871: Standard Opto-endstop anyway.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:50 AM - WheresWaldo: Does it need a pullup resistor?
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:51 AM - daniel871: That I have no clue about.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:52 AM - daniel871: Hang on.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:53 AM - WheresWaldo: Okay, so then there are only two items per endstop, you have to enable them with the USE_XMIN | XMAX_PLUG etc
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:53 AM - WheresWaldo: and then INVERTING true | false
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:54 AM - WheresWaldo: That is it, there isn't some magic fairy dust to make it work.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:58 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:59 AM - daniel871: Not going to tell you much, but that's the sensor.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:00 AM - daniel871: I'm trying to wrap my head around whether it would be considered NO or NC for the purposes of the logic in the firmware
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:01 AM - daniel871: I wish there was a way to continuously poll the endstops so that I wasn't just *move axis, send M119, move again, send M119" to verify it wasn't just triggering/opening again.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:08 AM - WheresWaldo: Do you have a multimeter?
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:08 AM - daniel871: Nope.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:09 AM - daniel871: Either the actual connection at the board is bad or all of the opto-endstops failed/died when plugging things into the board before connecting the PSU to the board.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:09 AM - daniel871: Or there is some random setting somewhere I'm overlooking that would get things working.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:10 AM - daniel871: (like the Flow Control setting in S3D being the problem with getting feedback from the board after initial connection)
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:10 AM - daniel871: I can control the fans, heaters and make the stepper motors turn, but can't seem to trigger the endstops.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:11 AM - WheresWaldo: Okay, three wires optical generally is PWR, GND and SIG. GND is almost alwways the middle pin, did you install them backwards.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:12 AM - daniel871: They'll only plug in one way.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:12 AM - WheresWaldo: There are no random settings, they are all pretty much simple.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:12 AM - daniel871: The actual plug on the endstop wires is "keyed" to match the plugin on the board.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:12 AM - WheresWaldo: On the MKS board?
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:12 AM - daniel871: Yep.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:13 AM - daniel871: Monoprice used plugs on their hardware that fits open source boards.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:13 AM - daniel871: Well, widely available boards that use open source software.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:15 AM - WheresWaldo: Does the LED light up on the optical endstop when the printer is on. If not then one pair of the wires is backwards.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:17 AM - daniel871: There is no LED on the endstop.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:18 AM - WheresWaldo: Is your replacement a GEN 1.4 or a BASE 1.4?
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:18 AM - daniel871: Gen1.4
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:19 AM - daniel871: Basic 8-bit controller. I know it's not preferred for the motion calculations.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:19 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:19 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:19 AM - daniel871: That's the endstop used in this machine.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:19 AM - daniel871: https://gigdigit.com/optical-endstop-sensor-mp-mini-delta/
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:20 AM - daniel871: Found there. Somebody found the source for scattered parts and has a sideline already set up selling them.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:24 AM - WheresWaldo: Those pictures don't really help figure out which pin is which.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM - daniel871: Yeah, I know.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:26 AM - daniel871: I can't really physically get a better look at them with my camera on my phone, either.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:27 AM - WheresWaldo: Well there is no standard pinout. Pruse optical endstops are Vcc | SIG | GND so ground and signal are reversed
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:28 AM - WheresWaldo: MKS puts GND in the middle
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:28 AM - WheresWaldo: So does a standard RAMPS
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:29 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:29 AM - daniel871: Best pic I can get. Doesn't appear to be any labeling near the pins themselves unless it's on the reverse side.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:30 AM - daniel871: Unless White/Green/Black follows the +/G/- convention in other wiring.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:31 AM - WheresWaldo: Normal electricial would have green = GND black = LOAD white = Neutral, but I am not sure how that would translate
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:32 AM - WheresWaldo: My guess is white = SIG green = GND black = +5V
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:32 AM - WheresWaldo: But that is just a guess
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:35 AM - Kilrah: any way to take a photo of the board traces on the other side of the cable?
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:37 AM - daniel871: Not without removing the endstop.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:38 AM - daniel871: And I'm leery of just removing it without any way to physically limit the mounting location (held in with nuts in the tracks on their aluminum extrusion)
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:39 AM - Kilrah: i mean on the control board
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:41 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:41 AM - daniel871: Looks like it's (from top-bottom in the image above) +/-/G
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:42 AM - daniel871: Hm. So I'd need to swap the White and Green wires if the coloring convention is correct (not really safe to assume since they're Chinese parts).
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:43 AM - daniel871: Have to open the image in another tab and really zoom in on the Endstop section to see it.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:45 AM - daniel871: Looked at my physical board and from top/bottom in the same orientation it's actually +/-/S
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:45 AM - WheresWaldo: No it's SIG/GND/+5V on the GEN 1.4
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:45 AM - WheresWaldo: Oops you just said that
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:48 AM - daniel871: Got a pic of the actual board coming when IMGUR stops being a butt.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:50 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:50 AM - daniel871: And it's upside-down, but there you go.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:51 AM - daniel871: And I noticed that each sensor got sets of differently colored wires, so there goes that theory of swapping specific colored wires.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:54 AM - WheresWaldo: So much for consistency
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:54 AM - WheresWaldo: Does any endstop work properly?
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:54 AM - daniel871: One is White/Green/Black, the second is Red/Green/Black and the third is Red/White/Green
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:55 AM - daniel871: Nope. They all remain in whatever state is default by the logic in the firmware. I can't seem to get any of them to trigger when Endstops report OPEN.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:55 AM - daniel871: Or report OPEN when reporting Triggered in a default state.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:56 AM - daniel871: So clearly the wiring is wrong between the endstop itself and the board... but how to determine which wires need switching?
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:56 AM - daniel871: Hm.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 10:58 AM - WheresWaldo: Well if you take one of the endstops off, you could probably determin which one is GND, then the other two can be swapped back and forth uwithout damage until you get it working. The GND is the key.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 11:01 AM - WheresWaldo: Hasn't anyone in the Facebook/Google groups done anything similar?
    Nov 28, 2017 at 11:01 AM - daniel871: Nope. I'm the first person to do so as the group is about 99% total newbies that are spending most of their posts asking about slicer settings.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 11:02 AM - daniel871: I've got a message into the guy in the group that runs that replacement parts store asking for a sketch of the pinout on the Opto-endstops, but that may be a bit because he works weird hours.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 11:02 AM - WheresWaldo: Well then, you will become the defacto expert :)
    Nov 28, 2017 at 11:03 AM - daniel871: Yeah... I'm so close to having it working properly.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 11:05 AM - WheresWaldo: Seems like a lot of work for an under $200 printer
    Nov 28, 2017 at 11:05 AM - WheresWaldo: Was the original problem a bad stepper driver?
     
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    Nov 28, 2017 at 11:06 AM - daniel871: Yeah. The closed source board didn't have any way to adjust the current, for some reason.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 11:06 AM - daniel871: No Pots on the board to turn, no documentation on the code to adjust the current and no values in EEPROM for it either.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 11:07 AM - daniel871: And they sent me two boards with the same problem, so I grabbed this board out of my pile of spare parts and started fooling with it.
    Nov 28, 2017 at 1:47 PM - jim3Dbot: Daniel, If the cable on both pics, is the same...then on the optical coupler....blk=sig, grn=gnd, wht=+v......that jives with board....you probably already figured that out already...
    Nov 28, 2017 at 1:48 PM - jim3Dbot: connector on brd is polorized.....looks like
    Nov 28, 2017 at 1:49 PM - jim3Dbot: *polarized
    Nov 28, 2017 at 1:51 PM - jim3Dbot: If you connect a VM to gnd & probe the OC black wire....you should see a voltage state change
    Nov 28, 2017 at 1:51 PM - jim3Dbot: when at home
    Nov 28, 2017 at 4:19 PM - jbigler1986: Still having issues with that?
     
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    Nov 29, 2017 at 4:15 AM - daniel871: Nah. I know what I need to do, I'm just waiting on parts from Amazon so I can split the 3-wire plug into individual dupont connectors and plug each endstop into the board properly.
    Nov 29, 2017 at 4:32 AM - WheresWaldo: Why not just pop the connector out of the housing, It is made to do that, a sharp pick or knife tip is enough to press on the little metal tab and pull the wire out.
    Nov 29, 2017 at 4:42 AM - daniel871: Because the exposed plugs are close enough to be a problem without any insulation when installed on the pins.
    Nov 29, 2017 at 4:43 AM - daniel871: And I figure I might as well put a more permanent connector on rather than go out and buy electrical tape for a kludge job.
    Nov 29, 2017 at 4:43 AM - WheresWaldo: Shove them back in the housing in the spots you want them, don't make this more complicated than it needs to be,. No waiting on parts. Although it is a smart thing to have a few dupont style connectors on hand.
    Nov 29, 2017 at 4:59 AM - daniel871: This is hilarious:
    Nov 29, 2017 at 5:55 AM - jbigler1986: I just solder wires to the pins
    Nov 29, 2017 at 5:55 AM - WheresWaldo: That is one ghetto way of doing it.
    Nov 29, 2017 at 5:56 AM - jbigler1986: Did it for my z endstops on the robo. Easy enough to unsolder if needed and the wire will break before the connection on the pins
    Nov 29, 2017 at 5:56 AM - jbigler1986: How is that ghetto?
    Nov 29, 2017 at 6:00 AM - jbigler1986: Daniel you have had terrible luck with all of your 3d printer electronics.
    Nov 29, 2017 at 6:02 AM - WheresWaldo: Because you aren't using a removable connector
    Nov 29, 2017 at 6:10 AM - jbigler1986: Wait I didn't solder onto the ramps. Just on the switch prongs themselves. My bad
    Nov 29, 2017 at 6:11 AM - jbigler1986: Yeah soldering onto the ramps would be ghetto
    Nov 29, 2017 at 6:17 AM - daniel871: I've had bad luck with all of my Robo printers and *one* Monoprice printer (the new delta), the printers I have at home are working just fine whenever I have something to run on one of them.
    Nov 29, 2017 at 6:20 AM - daniel871: This mini delta is meant to be the nerdiest office decoration, not a printer I use to make actual things to use.
    Nov 29, 2017 at 6:27 AM - Geof: probably would be cool if you could make stuff though lol
    Nov 29, 2017 at 6:35 AM - jbigler1986: Lol. Yes it would or else that's an expensive paper weight an
    Nov 29, 2017 at 6:41 AM - daniel871: I've made some stuff with it, just ran into a problem with the weakest link in the system (the custom control board they use) not being up to the job.
    Nov 29, 2017 at 6:43 AM - daniel871: Pretty sure that's due to my irrational preference to print PETG when the machine is clearly intended to print mostly PLA. Higher temp demands = more power through the board = quicker failures if it isn't designed to actually run that much current long term.
    Nov 29, 2017 at 6:44 AM - jbigler1986: Ramps and arduino mega can be had for under $20. Might be worth it unless it uses some crazy customs firmware too
    Nov 29, 2017 at 6:46 AM - daniel871: Nah, I've got Marlin working on a spare board, I'm just fighting bizarre chinese wiring and unlabeled pins on the opto-endstops.
    Nov 29, 2017 at 6:47 AM - daniel871: All other functions work (heaters, fans, stepper motor movements). Just need to get the endstops to trigger so I can finish calibrating things.
    Nov 29, 2017 at 6:47 AM - jbigler1986: Damn chinese
    Nov 29, 2017 at 7:06 AM - daniel871: Nah, the stuff itself works, it just needs better documentation.
    Nov 29, 2017 at 7:22 AM - jbigler1986: [​IMG]
    Nov 29, 2017 at 7:22 AM - jbigler1986: Benchy at 130mm/s
    Nov 29, 2017 at 8:10 AM - daniel871: Weird ducks. https://i.imgur.com/jZygsMh.gif
    Nov 29, 2017 at 8:26 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Nov 29, 2017 at 8:26 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Nov 29, 2017 at 10:57 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Nov 29, 2017 at 11:20 AM - jbigler1986:
    Nov 29, 2017 at 11:21 AM - jbigler1986: My dual drive gears in action. Video quality sucks. My lenses is scratched to hell
    Nov 29, 2017 at 2:07 PM - jbigler1986: Gonna make a new one that is truly dual drive like the bondtech
     
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    Nov 30, 2017 4:50 AM - JeffTheMess: morning roboneers
    Nov 30, 2017 4:50 AM - JeffTheMess: Hey JB you design that from scratch?
    Nov 30, 2017 4:54 AM - WheresWaldo: Morning Jeff
    Nov 30, 2017 4:59 AM - JeffTheMess: hows it going Waldo, working on anything new lately?
    Nov 30, 2017 5:01 AM - WheresWaldo: Trying to finish up my R2 lighting mod, asked Robo to uncomment the two necessary lines in future revisons of their firmware to make the mod easier.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:02 AM - WheresWaldo: How about you?
    Nov 30, 2017 5:04 AM - JeffTheMess: still working on the dlp and went back to school to learn some programming
    Nov 30, 2017 5:05 AM - WheresWaldo: The only time to stop learning new things is when you're dead. Good for you.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:16 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah, its fun stuff
    Nov 30, 2017 5:18 AM - JeffTheMess: how are you liking the R2 so far
    Nov 30, 2017 5:19 AM - WheresWaldo: So much better than the R1/R1+ out of the box, yet so many little nagging issues. Every 3D printer needs tweaking, the R2 just in different areas than the R1. Still learning.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:20 AM - WheresWaldo: R2 is a bit harder to mod than the R1, I have had to fight software issues in the R2 that simply don't exist in the R1.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:26 AM - Geof: What software issues ? I havent had any? Just running.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:27 AM - JeffTheMess: you think they will leave the open source market?
    Nov 30, 2017 5:27 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof, you are special
    Nov 30, 2017 5:29 AM - WheresWaldo: I was planning on leaving that statement as is, but I will add, you are just running, your use case is different than mine, I am modding, there are software issues.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:39 AM - JeffTheMess: ugh, I wish I could be modding my printer seem so much fun
    Nov 30, 2017 5:41 AM - Geof: Just to be clear :D the machine stock is fine? Its when you start wanting to modify the machine that you find the software issues? But out of the box its fine? (just trying to understand)
    Nov 30, 2017 5:44 AM - danzca6: a stock printer is a boring printer
    Nov 30, 2017 5:44 AM - danzca6: hahaha
    Nov 30, 2017 5:44 AM - Geof: :O how dare you lol
    Nov 30, 2017 5:45 AM - Geof: makin me feel bad Danz ;)
    Nov 30, 2017 5:46 AM - danzca6: Well when you have a print farm, I guess that statement can be ignored ;)
    Nov 30, 2017 5:46 AM - Geof: Lmao odd man out eh?
    Nov 30, 2017 5:46 AM - Geof: How you doin danz
    Nov 30, 2017 5:47 AM - danzca6: doing good...our black friday purchase gets delivered today so I am home
    Nov 30, 2017 5:47 AM - danzca6: how about you?
    Nov 30, 2017 5:47 AM - Geof: Nice man ! Sorry ita not a more fun purchase
    Nov 30, 2017 5:48 AM - Geof: Doin ok runnin printers lol
    Nov 30, 2017 5:49 AM - danzca6: well...I did end up buying the heatbed upgrade for the PB Pro...supposed to ship next business day...still sitting in processing state...kind of wondering WTH
    Nov 30, 2017 5:49 AM - Geof: I've heard alot of people say that about Printrbot
    Nov 30, 2017 5:49 AM - danzca6: I guess that won't come until next week
    Nov 30, 2017 5:49 AM - Geof: seems ran like a hobby shop lol
    Nov 30, 2017 5:49 AM - Geof: Dagoma is shipping me a replacement for that Delta lol.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:49 AM - danzca6: yeah I'm getting that feeling
    Nov 30, 2017 5:50 AM - danzca6: no email response...so may need to tweet them to see if they will give me an update
    Nov 30, 2017 5:50 AM - danzca6: did you see I got a filament width sensor?
    Nov 30, 2017 5:50 AM - WheresWaldo: Sorry got distracted by a squirrel
    Nov 30, 2017 5:50 AM - danzca6: was she hot WW?
    Nov 30, 2017 5:51 AM - Geof: lol! squirrels do that man.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:51 AM - danzca6: hahaha
    Nov 30, 2017 5:51 AM - Geof: I did see that. I may need some more info on that one danz
    Nov 30, 2017 5:51 AM - danzca6: I'll set it up on my testing rig and see how well it works.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:51 AM - WheresWaldo: Printer works fine out of the box, just don't PID tune and expect the values to stay set, just one example.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:51 AM - Geof: So...guessing if out of spec say 1.80 (or whatever you set it to?) it does a pause command/
    Nov 30, 2017 5:52 AM - danzca6: it was a curiosity purchase more than anything
    Nov 30, 2017 5:52 AM - Geof: Waldo is that on your modified version or on their version? Mine seems to hold temp relatively stable +/- a few degrees
    Nov 30, 2017 5:52 AM - WheresWaldo: Danz which filament are you speaking of, I bought some super cheap stuff too.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:52 AM - danzca6: no it actually adjusts the flow rate as it sees it above or below the calibrated 1.75mm
    Nov 30, 2017 5:52 AM - Geof: totally get that man! I'm curious about it lol
    Nov 30, 2017 5:53 AM - Geof: .....what? lol
    Nov 30, 2017 5:53 AM - Geof: I dont think I like that idea lol.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:53 AM - danzca6: yeah...no more measuring filament
    Nov 30, 2017 5:53 AM - WheresWaldo: Their version, Their hotend PID is pretty close but not for the bed
    Nov 30, 2017 5:54 AM - Geof: Havent noticed it on the bed? Seems stable? Also havent PID tuned since it seems stable which may be part of the issue lol.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:54 AM - Geof: Danz keep me posted on that. Color me intrigued lol.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:54 AM - WheresWaldo: Again, back to my "Aren't you special!"
    Nov 30, 2017 5:55 AM - Geof: I run the bed at 50 and 90 (pretty much those temps cover the materials I run through it lol) and it holds ...takes forever to get to 90 but it holds it there.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:55 AM - Geof: lol special or running is running :D
    Nov 30, 2017 5:55 AM - WheresWaldo: My bed cannot get to 90 anything over 80 and I have to preheat to about 75-80 before starting the print or it fails.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:57 AM - Geof: really? time out ?
    Nov 30, 2017 5:57 AM - WheresWaldo: Anything you would normally store in EEPROM gets erased if you run the Z-Offset Wizard. That is a software issue. But if you don't mess with EEPROM you would never see it. That is SPECIAL.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:57 AM - Geof: I did notice that but I assumed that was meant to be so.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:58 AM - Geof: since eeprom is storing the offset it needs to be dumped (not really) to store a new one. kind of like a factory reboot.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:58 AM - Geof: The only stuff I have in eeprom I moved to firmware changes with the last update.
    Nov 30, 2017 5:59 AM - Geof: because of that lol. was tired of losing my accel and jerk (not that it was a big deal to add it again)
    Nov 30, 2017 5:59 AM - WheresWaldo: What part of You're Special don't you understand? :D There is no need to DUMP EEPROM when changing any portion of it. They don't dump it they reset it to firmware defaults, that is every part of EEPROM.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:00 AM - WheresWaldo: Not everyone mods firmware
    Nov 30, 2017 6:00 AM - WheresWaldo: and putting your specific settings in there is modding it.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:00 AM - Geof: lol! True but how many people modify eeprom ?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:01 AM - Geof: just jerk and accel :D everything else was good enough for me (for now)
    Nov 30, 2017 6:01 AM - WheresWaldo: If we told you to do a PID, then we give you insturctions on how to save it in EEPROM
    Nov 30, 2017 6:01 AM - Geof: but! Most people run PLA and the such and I run PC and nylons/abs through the r2 mostly lol
    Nov 30, 2017 6:01 AM - WheresWaldo: If we tell you how to set Z Offset we tell you how to save it in EEPROM
    Nov 30, 2017 6:01 AM - WheresWaldo: Should I go on?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:02 AM - Geof: I dont think (personally) people should be directed those routes with this generation printer.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:02 AM - WheresWaldo: Rarely do we ever suggest modifying and flashing firmware on the R2/C2, so everything needs to go in EEPROM
    Nov 30, 2017 6:02 AM - Geof: use the wizards and save to firmware. If not capable return the machine for a working unit.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:04 AM - Geof: for example: Dont PID tune as there is not wizard for it. If the machine is not working correctly PID tuning can be done but results need saved to firmware IMO. Z offest- use the wizards- (both) if it doesn't hold the machine needs serviced. Something is wrong.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:04 AM - WheresWaldo: Let me lay this out in kindergarden terms. Use all the wizards you want, then sdometime the next day you find your Z-Offset is wrong, do the Z-Offset Wizzard and then all your other Wizzard setting are gone too.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:05 AM - WheresWaldo: I don't know why I spelled Wizard wrong twice, I need a remedial writing course.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:05 AM - Geof: Correct- the machine is set up as a wizards (all of them) done once, if have to be redone- redo all of them.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:05 AM - Geof: I cant spell to save my life, wont get grief from me on that one lol
    Nov 30, 2017 6:05 AM - WheresWaldo: That is just dumb and not intuitive at all.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:05 AM - WheresWaldo: I set it it sahould stay set until I change it.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:05 AM - Geof: I disagree, it makes sense to me. Most machines are this way.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:06 AM - Geof: Yes it does stay...until you change it (wizard lol)
    Nov 30, 2017 6:06 AM - WheresWaldo: It really doesn't, You don't really do that with your othewr applicanes
    Nov 30, 2017 6:07 AM - Geof: 3d printers arnt an appliance :D. Different beast- even if they promote plug and play-
    Nov 30, 2017 6:07 AM - WheresWaldo: You have a four slot toaster, and you want to toast two pices a bit darker you don't reset both timers
    Nov 30, 2017 6:07 AM - WheresWaldo: The R2 is, they said so.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:07 AM - Geof: Still a 3D Printer :D and I think the wizards make it more so plug and play honestly. Even if you have to redo them all.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:07 AM - WheresWaldo: Still dumb and counter intuitive
    Nov 30, 2017 6:08 AM - Geof: Must have missed that sales pitch, link me?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:08 AM - Geof: I think it makes it simple.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:08 AM - WheresWaldo: You and I are a very unique breed of 3D printer user
    Nov 30, 2017 6:08 AM - Geof: back to step one kind of thing :D. Good for new users for sure.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:08 AM - JeffTheMess: according to UL they are considered appliances
    Nov 30, 2017 6:09 AM - Geof: UL?>
    Nov 30, 2017 6:09 AM - WheresWaldo: Thanks Jeff I was too lazy to look for the reference
     
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    Nov 30, 2017 6:09 AM - WheresWaldo: Underwriters Labratory
    Nov 30, 2017 6:09 AM - JeffTheMess: <-- works for UL
    Nov 30, 2017 6:10 AM - Geof: Thats interesting, when insured my machines are categ. as Additive Tooling lol.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:10 AM - WheresWaldo: So Geof, your smart phone, you turn on and off bluetooth, do you want to be forced to change every setting anytime you want to change one.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:11 AM - WheresWaldo: Not intuitive
    Nov 30, 2017 6:11 AM - Geof: I dont turn on and off blue tooth lol.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:11 AM - Geof: its just off :D
    Nov 30, 2017 6:11 AM - Geof: get what your saying but even the Zortrax and Um rerun the "setup" wizards when you need to change something (both for instance are bed leveling offfsets)
    Nov 30, 2017 6:12 AM - Geof: if you want to change on aspect its all back to zero.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:12 AM - WheresWaldo: I've got hundreds of examples, I am sure we could spend all day and find one where you wouldn';t want to start all over every time you change something.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:12 AM - Geof: LOL :D I suppose the point is that I dont believe it to be broken, I believe it to be the way they wanted it.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:12 AM - Geof: Not great for an experienced hobbyist, but thats also not their target know what I mean?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:13 AM - Geof: My only beef with the R2 I have is the bed, powersupply and the damn thing is to loud. Cheaped out on stepper drivers on an expensive machine.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:13 AM - WheresWaldo: I posted the EEPROM reset as a bug, Allen and Coby told me it is a bug and not intentional but they haven't touched any RoboLCD code since mid-October.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:13 AM - Geof: about 2x louder than the zortrax and insanely louder than my UM
    Nov 30, 2017 6:14 AM - Geof: Really? thats interesting.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:14 AM - WheresWaldo: Cheap fans, Do you have the old style power supply, mine sounds like a jet engine with a bird stuck in it.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:14 AM - Geof: I must have the generation before that...it sounds like about 30 times louder than that lol.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:14 AM - WheresWaldo: Really
    Nov 30, 2017 6:15 AM - WheresWaldo: Mine vibrates so badly it actually moves around on the table all by itself.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:15 AM - Geof: The loudest part on the zortrax (same gantry build as the R2) is the movement, loudest part of the UM is the feeder.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:15 AM - Geof: Your powersupply?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:15 AM - WheresWaldo: Power supply not printer that is.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:16 AM - Geof: yep, I had to doublesided sticky tape mine down at the home shop. at the work shop its pinned by another printer lol
    Nov 30, 2017 6:16 AM - WheresWaldo: I added soft rubber feet to the bottom of the printer, it never moves unless I move it.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:17 AM - Geof: Mine had little feet out of the box? Seems to hold fine?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:17 AM - Geof: mine was used as well so not exactly same machine as everyone else.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:17 AM - WheresWaldo: Mine did too, I just added those little sticky pads used to cushion drawers
    Nov 30, 2017 6:18 AM - WheresWaldo: You know the tan hex shaped pads to keep them from slamming shut.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:18 AM - Geof: just to keep it from moving in case you bumped it?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:18 AM - Geof: yea I'm with you. most my machines I print ninaflex feet for (little small pads for the corners) to keep them from jiggling around. Will have to try those.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:19 AM - WheresWaldo: Yeah, because I am always futzing with it while printing, sometimes I need it running while tesing voltages or pinouts.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:19 AM - Geof: ah gotya. makes sense.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:20 AM - WheresWaldo: Although I got Robo to send me the electrical diagram in a PDF.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:20 AM - Geof: for the board?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:20 AM - WheresWaldo: There are just too many pins wired up on the Robo Mainboard not to use them in some fashion or another
    Nov 30, 2017 6:21 AM - WheresWaldo: Yep the Mainboard only
    Nov 30, 2017 6:21 AM - Geof: Would be good to see a photo with labels like we did for the R1+ board in the R2 section.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:22 AM - WheresWaldo: My understanding is that the next Mainboard revision adds more silkscreened labels, nothing else.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:22 AM - Geof: Yep was told the same. No actual changes.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:23 AM - WheresWaldo: Example, my lighting mod uses two pins of the triple row right by the Arduino 2560, I had to measure and test by trail an error, now I know what they are.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:26 AM - Geof: Thats funny but not really :D lol.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:26 AM - Geof: but its good someone is using the machine differently than how they intended.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:27 AM - WheresWaldo: I mod nearly everything hobby related, You should see my personal PCs
    Nov 30, 2017 6:27 AM - WheresWaldo: And my bicycle
    Nov 30, 2017 6:28 AM - Geof: I quit modding (unless there is a performance issue) when I went full time with the buisness. Still have a few machines that soley exist to tinker but if the machine doesn't make the cut it doesn't make the cut :D
    Nov 30, 2017 6:29 AM - Geof: the R1+ machines were upgraded identically except one that has a titan. Minimal for maximum output. Thats it :D Bit boring but if their not running I dont eat :D
    Nov 30, 2017 6:29 AM - WheresWaldo: Special use case, not then norm, but you already know that.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:29 AM - WheresWaldo: Not everyone runs a print farm
    Nov 30, 2017 6:31 AM - WheresWaldo: Be right back, have to see if that Nigerian Prince is sending me my $35M
    Nov 30, 2017 6:31 AM - Geof: indeed, but not everyone is a tinkerer either. I think the R2 was aimed at new audience :D. Thats why I dont mod mine any further though I want to do the promethius. Need it stock to help people/find the flaws in operation.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:39 AM - WheresWaldo: Of course, stock means you can maybe duplicate an issue.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:40 AM - WheresWaldo: Damn, no $35M
    Nov 30, 2017 6:41 AM - Geof: indeed. or at least try to lol. Helps when multiple people are having print issues. a stock machine makes it easy to run it and try to narrow down machine or profile issue.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:42 AM - Geof: I wasn't holding my breath but I was hopin for ya buddy lol
    Nov 30, 2017 6:44 AM - WheresWaldo: I did get a fresh cup of coffee out of the deal. And an English muffin too.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:44 AM - Geof: not a total loss then D:
    Nov 30, 2017 6:45 AM - WheresWaldo: I'm going to call that a win!
    Nov 30, 2017 6:45 AM - Geof: lol :D
    Nov 30, 2017 6:46 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof, did we chase everyone else away from Shoutbox?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:47 AM - JeffTheMess: not yet
    Nov 30, 2017 6:47 AM - Geof: nope looks like we gotta try again lol ;)
    Nov 30, 2017 6:47 AM - danzca6: still in the shadows
    Nov 30, 2017 6:47 AM - Geof: hey Jeff
    Nov 30, 2017 6:47 AM - Geof: Hey Danz :D
    Nov 30, 2017 6:47 AM - JeffTheMess: whats sup
    Nov 30, 2017 6:48 AM - Geof: not much. Anyone pick up the 3D Hubs book?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:48 AM - JeffTheMess: I hoping JB would come on to share his dual gear drive... i've been wanting to add a diy version to my r1
    Nov 30, 2017 6:48 AM - danzca6: I saw it on twitter but didn't look into the details
    Nov 30, 2017 6:48 AM - Geof: I think its in the shoutbox above buddy ?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:48 AM - Geof: The book Danz?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:49 AM - danzca6: yes...sorry...the book
    Nov 30, 2017 6:49 AM - Geof: I picked up one copy (will likely pick up a few more more teachers I work with) its neat.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:50 AM - Geof: Some cool info and looks into the different processes. The modeling part is what I'm eager to read to find out what I'm doing "wrong" lol
    Nov 30, 2017 6:50 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof, who is the book's target?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:50 AM - danzca6: do you have a link?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:50 AM - JeffTheMess: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/9...48509&linkId=33a88790f9237a3e0c6eae63445b1948
    Nov 30, 2017 6:50 AM - Geof: Thanks Jeff.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:51 AM - JeffTheMess: seems legit
    Nov 30, 2017 6:51 AM - Geof: Waldo the book is more like a reference guide. It actually says in the intro its not meant to be read front to back lol.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:51 AM - Geof: I am reading it front to back just to know what all is in there. Good info but seems more targeted at newcomers who are interested in 3D printing. Spends alot of time explaining the different processes.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:52 AM - WheresWaldo: No ebook format, I haven't bought a hardbound book in ages
    Nov 30, 2017 6:52 AM - danzca6: interesting...
    Nov 30, 2017 6:52 AM - danzca6: yeah I would rather see an ebook version as well
    Nov 30, 2017 6:53 AM - Geof: I'm suprised they didn't but I prefer hardbook cuz I'm wierd.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:53 AM - Geof: easier to read, I look at screens all day lol.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:53 AM - WheresWaldo: https://www.amazon.com/3D-Printing-...3290&sr=1-6&keywords=The+3D+Printing+Handbook
    Nov 30, 2017 6:53 AM - WheresWaldo: For the Kindle
    Nov 30, 2017 6:54 AM - danzca6: and free
    Nov 30, 2017 6:54 AM - danzca6: nice
    Nov 30, 2017 6:54 AM - Geof: Free is cool! lol
    Nov 30, 2017 6:54 AM - WheresWaldo: If you are on Unlimited, otherwise it is $19
    Nov 30, 2017 6:54 AM - Geof: the hardback came with a 50.00 voucher for 100.00 in prints ( so get 100.00 in prints for 50.00) if any of you want the voucher I'll pm you the code tonight.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:55 AM - WheresWaldo: Assuming it is a 3D Hubs voucher
    Nov 30, 2017 6:55 AM - danzca6: can I then use the voucher on your 3d hubs?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:55 AM - Geof: yessir.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:55 AM - danzca6: haha
    Nov 30, 2017 6:55 AM - WheresWaldo: Maybe your BFF OSG might want it.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:55 AM - danzca6: how big of a print on the Moai will that give me? :)
    Nov 30, 2017 6:55 AM - Geof: lol! You can if you want but it would likely be better served with a printer with SLS or the such :D
     
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    Nov 30, 2017 6:55 AM - Geof: lol just dm me what ya want on the Moai buddy :D
    Nov 30, 2017 6:55 AM - Geof: moai is 130x130x180z
    Nov 30, 2017 6:56 AM - danzca6: haha...just kidding with you. That's a decent size though
    Nov 30, 2017 6:56 AM - Geof: yea not bad at all. Been running prototypes since I built it lol.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:56 AM - WheresWaldo: Do you know just how many books on Amazon are titled The 3D Printing Handbook?
    Nov 30, 2017 6:57 AM - Geof: another few weeks and she will be paid for.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:57 AM - Geof: lol I do not. I bet its alot
    Nov 30, 2017 6:57 AM - WheresWaldo: A lot is an understatement
    Nov 30, 2017 6:58 AM - Geof: lol :D thats not surprising.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:58 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof, you should write a book, "How To Make Money With 3D Printing", there aren't as many of those books.
    Nov 30, 2017 6:59 AM - danzca6: well if everyone was doing that WW, who would make money at it anymore ;)
    Nov 30, 2017 6:59 AM - Geof: lol! I dont think anyone would want to read about my way lol. I'm sure I did it wrong from day 1: D
    Nov 30, 2017 6:59 AM - WheresWaldo: Not true, look at all those Make Money in Real Estate books out there
    Nov 30, 2017 7:01 AM - Geof: lol! Nah I'll pass. I think I'm better served melting plastic vs trying to write a book :D . My process was easy...buy a machine because I need plastic parts....run jobs for people to pay for 1st machine...buy 2nd machine so I can run my parts....more orders....buy 3rd machine etc etc. And one day I'll be able to run my gosh darn parts. lol
    Nov 30, 2017 7:02 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof, you could make it a picture book LOL
    Nov 30, 2017 7:02 AM - Geof: LOL pop up ?
    Nov 30, 2017 7:02 AM - Geof: open the book and its just a big stop sign that pops up with a cookie
    Nov 30, 2017 7:02 AM - WheresWaldo: Danz, Activision just added Alexa skills to Destiny 2
    Nov 30, 2017 7:03 AM - Geof: There is a ghost you can buy for it lol "to bring the game home"
    Nov 30, 2017 7:03 AM - JeffTheMess: If you guys haven't done so... https://www.battleforthenet.com/
    Nov 30, 2017 7:04 AM - WheresWaldo: Jeff is that the net neutrality petition?
    Nov 30, 2017 7:04 AM - danzca6: WW, really? that's pretty interesting. I still haven't allowed Alexa in my home. I'm afraid she will gossip back to Amazon
    Nov 30, 2017 7:05 AM - Geof: we have one Danz...it sits in a drawer lol
    Nov 30, 2017 7:05 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah
    Nov 30, 2017 7:05 AM - Geof: Christmas gift bahah.
    Nov 30, 2017 7:05 AM - WheresWaldo: Yep Danz, it's true
    Nov 30, 2017 7:06 AM - WheresWaldo: The Ghost is a skill, https://www.techpowerup.com/239293/activision-and-bungie-bring-amazon-alexa-skill-to-destiny-2
    Nov 30, 2017 7:06 AM - JeffTheMess: google and amazon make money by having your data so they can target you better stuff to buy
    Nov 30, 2017 7:06 AM - WheresWaldo: We are the product, we are not the customer
    Nov 30, 2017 7:07 AM - JeffTheMess: i'll cosign that fact
    Nov 30, 2017 7:10 AM - WheresWaldo: Danz, I just got a message from my daughter, she said sahe has to buy an Alexa now :eek: :D
    Nov 30, 2017 7:11 AM - danzca6: a coworker has an alexa tap at work. she uses it to stream music and to use the skill "Alexa, ask for a fart". I swear I work with 5 year olds. hahaha
    Nov 30, 2017 7:11 AM - WheresWaldo: I already like her.
    Nov 30, 2017 7:13 AM - danzca6: that is a cool skill added for Destiny though
    Nov 30, 2017 7:13 AM - danzca6: The only alexa I like is the tap because it doesn't listen for a command. You have to press a button
    Nov 30, 2017 7:13 AM - WheresWaldo: Yep, she was stoked about being able to say equip my raid loadout.
    Nov 30, 2017 7:17 AM - WheresWaldo: I think Mark T has played with Alexa skills for the Robo.
    Nov 30, 2017 7:18 AM - danzca6: I looked into that a bit. Kind of a neat idea. not sure how much I would use it though
    Nov 30, 2017 7:19 AM - WheresWaldo: The R2/C2 has a OctoPrint plugin loaded, but not enabled for Alexa.
    Nov 30, 2017 7:45 AM - WheresWaldo: Danz, pre-order https://www.amazon.com/Limited-Dest...=1512055121&ref=plSrch&ref_=mp_s_a_1_5&sr=8-5
    Nov 30, 2017 7:47 AM - danzca6: $90...maybe I'll put it on my christmas list
    Nov 30, 2017 8:45 AM - kevin wilson: hihi
    Nov 30, 2017 8:46 AM - kevin wilson: trying to print to my robo+ using the hard wire, i have a controller board i think that may be bad, laptop doesn't seem to be seeing the printer though
    Nov 30, 2017 8:50 AM - kevin wilson: i have prontoface checked as well
    Nov 30, 2017 8:54 AM - JeffTheMess: robo+ has the sd carder reader you still got it
    Nov 30, 2017 9:03 AM - WheresWaldo: Uninstalling and reinstalling the Arduino drivers usually fixes non-reponsive communications
    Nov 30, 2017 9:03 AM - WheresWaldo: Usually
    Nov 30, 2017 9:32 AM - kevin wilson: just did a reboot
    Nov 30, 2017 9:33 AM - kevin wilson: and yes i have the card reader
    Nov 30, 2017 9:55 AM - kevin wilson: working on the uninstall of the arduino took it out from device manager did a new search it poped up with the yellow triangle explanation mark, trying to search online for automatic updates
    Nov 30, 2017 9:56 AM - kevin wilson: even my regular wireless printer can't connect since some update on this machine
    Nov 30, 2017 9:57 AM - kevin wilson: maybe the comm port is off
    Nov 30, 2017 10:04 AM - JoshYourITGuy: If I wanted to use a Ramps to control just 1 stepper with an LCD for simple back and forth control (plus option to quickly change speed) what would be better, stripping down Marlin or starting from scratch?
    Nov 30, 2017 10:26 AM - kevin wilson: bah, downloaded the adruino zip, went into device mgr, no ports, only Other, got to pick the driver, found it, selected it, and Error The system cannot find the file specfied.
    Nov 30, 2017 10:45 AM - JoshYourITGuy: I wonder if there is a way to strip Marlin down to just the Prepare>Move Axis>X Axis menu and have it ignore the endstops?
    Nov 30, 2017 10:56 AM - kevin wilson: turns out it was zipped inside the zipped file, so unzipped. reinstalled, new error The Third-Party INF Does Not Contain Digital Signature Information
    Nov 30, 2017 10:56 AM - kevin wilson: need a reboot to hopefully fix that
    Nov 30, 2017 1:09 PM - jbigler1986: There is a way to ignore endstops. I don't remember what needs changed though.
    Nov 30, 2017 1:09 PM - jbigler1986: Look up the MPCNC marlin firmware. Pretty sure it has sensations disabled in the firmware.
     
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    Dec 1, 2017 at 7:31 AM - WheresWaldo: Hey Danz, you around?
    Dec 1, 2017 at 7:42 AM - jbigler1986: Hello
    Dec 1, 2017 at 7:45 AM - WheresWaldo: JB
    Dec 1, 2017 at 7:49 AM - jbigler1986: To Kevin you need to disable driver signature to install that if that is the error you are getting
    Dec 1, 2017 at 7:49 AM - jbigler1986: How are things going on your end
    Dec 1, 2017 at 7:50 AM - WheresWaldo: Eh, just going, how about you.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 7:53 AM - jbigler1986: Same. Kind of a blah day
    Dec 1, 2017 at 8:27 AM - JeffTheMess: morning robonauts
    Dec 1, 2017 at 8:30 AM - WheresWaldo: Jeff, it's almost lunchtime. How's it going?
    Dec 1, 2017 at 8:31 AM - JeffTheMess: getting off soon company dinner
    Dec 1, 2017 at 8:35 AM - WheresWaldo: Always nice to get an early start to the weekend, if it is your weekend start.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 8:42 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah especially on the company's dime
    Dec 1, 2017 at 8:53 AM - daniel871: [​IMG]
    Dec 1, 2017 at 9:57 AM - Braydon ROBO 3D: Hey hey everyone!
    Dec 1, 2017 at 9:57 AM - Braydon ROBO 3D: how's it goin
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:05 AM - WheresWaldo: Not sure anyone is actually in Shoutbox, Braydon.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:06 AM - JeffTheMess: meh, we linger around
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:06 AM - Geof: some people are in and out ;)
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:07 AM - WheresWaldo: Hey, Geof & Jeff, have you run any filled filament through your R2?
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:07 AM - JeffTheMess: Im still on R1
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:08 AM - Geof: brassfill bronzefill woodfill corkfill "magnetic iron"
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:08 AM - JeffTheMess: pitiful I know
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:08 AM - Geof: oh and a sample of stainless
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:08 AM - Geof: and CF PC lol.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:09 AM - WheresWaldo: My daughter and I decided we are going to ComicCon in Raleigh next year and we are doing a bunch of Steampunk stuff so I am interested in the copper, brass, bronze filled.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:10 AM - Geof: brass loves to stick to hard and leave its first layer on the bed. Glue stick and gently removing warm.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:10 AM - Geof: copper and bronze run about the same, I prefer bronze.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:10 AM - WheresWaldo: I told her I wanted to go as a Browncoat and her response was 'Whaaaa?'. Kids these days.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:12 AM - Geof: lol I'm her age so would also say "whhaaaa?" lol
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:12 AM - WheresWaldo: I have some cheap woodfill so when I am done printing the Tourbillon clcok I will try that out first. I have some samples of Stainless and Copper that I tried with some success on the R1
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:13 AM - Geof: need a larger bore nozzle, hardened preferred.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:13 AM - WheresWaldo: Browncoat example Malcolm Reynolds - Firefly
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:13 AM - WheresWaldo: Got the nozzles already.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:14 AM - Geof: ah gotya.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:14 AM - Geof: should be good to role then. I use .6 or .8 and am jam free with an oiler :D
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:15 AM - WheresWaldo: Good to know
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:16 AM - WheresWaldo: One of my favorite quotes I tell my kid when she sdoesn't want to do what I tell her is from Firefly, "You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat ya with until you realize who's in ruttin' command here!"
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:17 AM - JeffTheMess: lol
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:24 AM - Braydon ROBO 3D: haha
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:24 AM - Braydon ROBO 3D: I saw some names. Figured Id hop in
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:25 AM - Braydon ROBO 3D: quick question
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:25 AM - Braydon ROBO 3D: what do you guys think about the ruby nozzles
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:25 AM - WheresWaldo: shoot
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:25 AM - WheresWaldo: No personal experience, and cost is a bit high for me to experiement with it.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:25 AM - mark tomlinson: Can't promise quick answers... (just sayin')
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:26 AM - Geof: overpriced when I've used a hardened steel for the last 3 years and countless kg of abrasive with no issue
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:26 AM - mark tomlinson: Yes, Ruby nozzles are a bit on teh pricey side.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:26 AM - mark tomlinson: Hardened steel is generally what we use
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:26 AM - Geof: ditto
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:27 AM - WheresWaldo: Hard to justify when you can buy 4 Micro-swiss hardened for the cost of one Ruby.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:33 AM - Braydon ROBO 3D: Yeah I understand
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:33 AM - Braydon ROBO 3D: it is pricey
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:33 AM - Braydon ROBO 3D: have you had consistent use with hardened steel nozzles?
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:34 AM - Geof: indeed.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:35 AM - WheresWaldo: With all the specialty nozzles there are trade offs, thermal conductivity on Hardened steel is about 1/4 that of Brass. To be more consistent you should print a bit slower if you are using hardened steel.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:35 AM - Geof: only downside to a hardened I've found is the 25.00 price tag :D (for an e3d) I've had to increase heat a bit vs brass as well
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:35 AM - WheresWaldo: Increasing temps is the other way to go.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:36 AM - Geof: yessir slower is no fun : D
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:37 AM - Geof: the thing about the ruby is your running abrasive the entire time...but the ruby is surrounded by brass...wont the abrasives eat away at the brass over time?
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:37 AM - WheresWaldo: The Ruby is about 1/3 the thermal conductivity so you have to either be slower or hotter or both just like Steel
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:37 AM - Geof: heard alot of people complaining with the rubys failing prematurely. No first hand experience myself as a waterjet ruby nozzle is 15.00 so getting a ruby nozzle for a printer around 90 bucks is just out of hand in my mind
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:38 AM - WheresWaldo: According to them, not a real issue since the orifice through the gem is what forms the extrude and that is what degrades in a regular nozzle.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:38 AM - mark tomlinson: I think the 40w heater core helps make up for the extra heat needed to deal with hardended steel
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:39 AM - WheresWaldo: Stainless Steel is even worse for temps and most people think that because Steel is in the name that it will last longer
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:39 AM - WheresWaldo: Likely, but E3D doesn't come with a 40 anymore, and I don't think the Hexagon is a 40W either
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:40 AM - WheresWaldo: Didn't we go through this once before? Sounds like a forum thread I vaguely recall.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:40 AM - Geof: I think he means replacing the low watt with a high watt (amazon or other 3rd party)
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:40 AM - Geof: like all mine have 40 watt in them now except the R2
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:41 AM - WheresWaldo: Of course. Pull my hair and call me stupid.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM - Geof: :D lol stock absolutely, I dont think anyone does stock other than my gmax in my experience.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:49 AM - mark tomlinson: Yes, I meant a replacement. the $2 replacement ones :) I don't use anything other than 40w cores anymore.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:50 AM - mark tomlinson: I admit it is often overkill, but ... It works.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:51 AM - WheresWaldo: I do the same, run 40W heaters. It lets you start up a lot faster.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:55 AM - Geof: indeed. Works is what I'm after :D no fuss no muss :D
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:57 AM - Braydon ROBO 3D: We are testing ruby nozzles here and have gone through over 10kgs of carbon fiber and stainless
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:58 AM - Braydon ROBO 3D: and its working like its brand new
    Dec 1, 2017 at 10:58 AM - WheresWaldo: Braydon, what are you using as a baseline?
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:02 AM - mark tomlinson: I don't doubt they wear better. I am not sure how cost-effective they are compared to hardened steel. If that can be shown it becomes a much better choice :)
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:03 AM - mark tomlinson: I went through a dozen brass nozzles in 3 years, I have yet to wear out even one hardened steel (but lately is a poor comparison since I have been unable to print as much for the past few months)
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:04 AM - Braydon ROBO 3D: This is just in comparison with the brazz
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:04 AM - Braydon ROBO 3D: brass
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:04 AM - Braydon ROBO 3D: yes I am going through testing on the hardened steel now
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:04 AM - Braydon ROBO 3D: we tested some steel nozzles a while back but the supplier must have made poor quality
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:15 AM - Geof: I dig the e3dv6 nozzles. dont really buy anything else.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:15 AM - Geof: found a cheapo source for them and buy the legit hardened ones.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:16 AM - WheresWaldo: PM me that source
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:19 AM - Geof: https://m.fasttech.com/search/0?keywords=e3d+v6
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:19 AM - Geof: this one?
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:20 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof, do you only look up shit on your phone?
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:23 AM - Geof: 90 percent of the time lol.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:23 AM - Geof: most the day I'm elbows deep in a printer, phones easier to look at vs the computer
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:25 AM - WheresWaldo: Figured, most of your links are mobile sites.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:26 AM - WheresWaldo: All I see is cheap Chinese brass nozzles.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:27 AM - jbigler1986: That's all I see as well
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:28 AM - Geof: thats where I get the cheapo V6 nozzles.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:28 AM - Geof: hardened I buy from Matt.
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:29 AM - Geof: .53 cents each at the quantity I buy (I think min is 5 for that price) and no quality or performance difference against the legit ones
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:29 AM - Geof: specific nozzle .4 1.75mm filament
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:29 AM - Geof: https://m.fasttech.com/products/1040/10013091/2205004-brass-0-4mm-1-75mm-e3d-v6-extra-nozzle-for-3d
    Dec 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM - jbigler1986: Yeah brass v6 nozzles can be found very cheap. I have had no issues with cheap ones
     

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