Shoutbox Archive

Dec 1, 2017 at 11:31 AM - WheresWaldo: I was asking about hardened nozzles, Cheap Chinese brass is available all over at comparable prices.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:31 AM - Geof: ah. No I buy the legit hardened from Matt.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:32 AM - Geof: Havent found one that compares in quality and performance cheap.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:32 AM - WheresWaldo: Now I got it.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:33 AM - Geof: Found a 4.00 hardened year ago that wore out faster than brass Lol
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:34 AM - WheresWaldo: Yeah a lot of trash out there.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:35 AM - Geof: Indeed. I was talking with a client whose machine I fix about that exact thing today. "cant you use cheaper parts" and I said of course, but you may spend more trying to find a good cheap part than just buying a good part
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:35 AM - Geof: I cant tell you how much money I've wasted on cheap parts and materials. Likely doesn't even out.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:36 AM - WheresWaldo: Totally understood. I have wasted a bit of coin on stuff that were all fluff and no substance.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:37 AM - Geof: yep exactly.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:37 AM - Geof: Waldo see this on makergeeks? http://www.news-leader.com/story/ne...rinting-supply-company-maker-geeks/912915001/
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:37 AM - Geof: saw it in my twitter feed today. not suprising.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:38 AM - WheresWaldo: I have never bought anything from them, ever.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:39 AM - WheresWaldo: In the US mostly Amazon, Filastruder for E3D, but now switching that to Matt,
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:39 AM - Geof: I have twice and it went fine but have heard horror stories.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:39 AM - Geof: I buy from amazon Matt and Preet over at Designbox3d
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:40 AM - Geof: unless they dont carry whatever I'm after of course.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:40 AM - WheresWaldo: For me Filastruder is one day faster than Matt, the advantage of only being 250 miles away.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:41 AM - WheresWaldo: But now that Matt has a partner to keep an eye on the financial side his E3D prices are much better.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:45 AM - Geof: They just dropped prices on them, hatchbox and a few other things. I dont know the partner had much to do with it, just demand vs quantity purchased.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM - WheresWaldo: I tought Matt said the guys was focused on finance, but I could be completely off base.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:47 AM - daniel871: The only issue I've ever had with Makergeeks has been their slow response time on the customer service side of things if there was an issue. Getting a refund has never been a problem.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:47 AM - daniel871: And that's happened, like, twice ever in regular orders the past couple years.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:47 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan, did you get more info on the endstop?
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:48 AM - daniel871: Nope. I've got two of the three wired up and responding/triggering properly, working on the last one when I'm not doing actual work.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:49 AM - WheresWaldo: Hey Geof, how cheap do you want to buy brass 0.4 mm Chinese nozzles. Found them for 0.14 each in lots of 50.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:50 AM - Geof: I just stick with these guys lol.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:50 AM - Geof: they have done me right and I cant complain on the price lol. .08cent kinda...yea.... lol no hope for that, not sure I'd even want to spend the time to install lol
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:50 AM - WheresWaldo: My math was off, 0.14 each
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:51 AM - Geof: LOL that doesn't help the "thats to cheap" voice in the back of my head.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:53 AM - jbigler1986: Lol. So around 8 bucks for 50?
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:54 AM - jbigler1986: To lazy to actually do the math or use a calculator
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:54 AM - daniel871: $7
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:55 AM - jbigler1986: Cheap heat breaks are the only cheap parts I have had issues with
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:55 AM - jbigler1986: Which if I really wanted to I could smooth them with my drill press but didn't want to mess with it
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:56 AM - WheresWaldo: I don't do cheap heatbreaks, but I do use cheap nozzles.
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:58 AM - jbigler1986: Yeah I don't do cheap ones anymore after I bought a few that were complete garbage. Out of the bag with no nozzle filament would get snagged on them
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:59 AM - WheresWaldo: I use cheap nozzles and about every two months just toss them, if I get a clog, I toss it, no cleaning for me.
Dec 1, 2017 at 12:01 PM - jbigler1986: Same
Dec 1, 2017 at 12:05 PM - Geof: I clean em out lol. Pull, swap, put in box. When the box starts getting full I clean em. Rotate .
Dec 1, 2017 at 12:06 PM - Geof: I toss em when the print quality suffers lol. Thats about it, but I'm cheap
Dec 1, 2017 at 12:20 PM - jbigler1986: How does PETG print? Never printed with it
Dec 1, 2017 at 12:21 PM - WheresWaldo: I like PETG, prints pretty easy
Dec 1, 2017 at 12:21 PM - WheresWaldo: Doesn't warp unless you do something stupid
Dec 1, 2017 at 12:21 PM - jbigler1986: Similiar to PLA with adhesion
Dec 1, 2017 at 12:22 PM - Geof: chunks out glass pretty hard
Dec 1, 2017 at 12:22 PM - WheresWaldo: It will stick better so I use hairspray as a sort of release agent.
Dec 1, 2017 at 1:03 PM - daniel871:

 

Dec 2, 2017 10:17 AM - WheresWaldo: Afternoon Geof

 

Dec 3, 2017 4:06 PM - daniel871: Anybody see the Zortrax M200 giveaway?
Dec 3, 2017 4:07 PM - daniel871: https://gleam.io/PJxbM/make-anything-zortrax-200k-subscriber-giveaway

 

Dec 4, 2017 3:43 AM - jbigler1986: Morning
Dec 4, 2017 6:25 AM - daniel871: https://i.imgur.com/Xou0UCQ.gifv
Dec 4, 2017 5:48 PM - jbigler1986: Hello fellas

 

Dec 4, 2017 9:33 PM - OutsourcedGuru: @Braydon ROBO 3D - Actually, the pitch for the Olsson Ruby nozzles isn't necessarily "do you want to print lots of carbon fiber and not grind away your existing nozzle?" but instead "do you want to print food-grade plastic parts?"
Dec 5, 2017 4:34 AM - daniel871:
Dec 5, 2017 5:50 AM - Geof: Guru- might want to fact check that. AM is not FDA approved process, regardless of the nozzle used.
Dec 5, 2017 5:50 AM - Geof: Morning all
Dec 5, 2017 5:59 AM - daniel871: Best way to print "food grade" plastic parts is to use your printed part as the template when building a mold, cleaning the resulting mold and then pouring your plastic part with proper food-grade plastic and then cleaning the resulting part.
Dec 5, 2017 6:00 AM - daniel871: Or using one of the high-temp filaments that can survive the sanitize cycle on a dishwasher and regularly run it through that between uses.
Dec 5, 2017 6:02 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan8 how's it going this morning?
Dec 5, 2017 6:03 AM - Geof: Hey Waldo
Dec 5, 2017 6:03 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof
Dec 5, 2017 6:03 AM - Geof: Daniel- sound advice.
Dec 5, 2017 6:04 AM - WheresWaldo: I am searching for the specs on the four pin power connector the R2 uses. My ears are bleeding listening to this v1 power supply.
Dec 5, 2017 6:04 AM - Geof: I'm sure you have a power brick layin around? Cut and splice?
Dec 5, 2017 6:05 AM - Geof: I'm suppose to be getting the PS and bed revision soonish sometime. Will see.
Dec 5, 2017 6:05 AM - WheresWaldo: Not any spare using the same connector
Dec 5, 2017 6:07 AM - WheresWaldo: I think it is an SP13 size but SP13 are waterproof.
Dec 5, 2017 6:12 AM - Geof: its honestly hard telling what they used. I'd reach out to them and ask them (maybe they'll get you a new PS) or cut out the fan and put in a new one
Dec 5, 2017 6:12 AM - WheresWaldo: This is what happens when you leave the BOM up to the Chinese factory assemling your machine, they use whatever parts they have an abundance of.
Dec 5, 2017 6:13 AM - WheresWaldo: I'm going to use a higher wattage Meanwell clone.
Dec 5, 2017 6:14 AM - Geof: just going to use a standard PS then like most machines use? or a powerbrick meanwell?
Dec 5, 2017 6:14 AM - WheresWaldo: Standard PS in a big metal case like real printers use. Will mount it under my workbench with some 3D printed brackets
Dec 5, 2017 6:16 AM - Geof: hey careful my UM uses a power brick...so does the cheapest 2 printers lol( startt and neva0
Dec 5, 2017 6:16 AM - WheresWaldo: I can't find any power bricks that are 24V and are more than 10A
Dec 5, 2017 6:19 AM - Geof: even my UM is 9.2A, why do you want 10a?
Dec 5, 2017 6:21 AM - WheresWaldo: I also want cheap. all the UM replacement PSU even on AliExpress are like $80 - $100 dollars.
Dec 5, 2017 6:23 AM - WheresWaldo: And you know the Chinese, still overrate their power supplies, that is why I need something like 15A so I can be sure it will run at 10A.
Dec 5, 2017 6:23 AM - Geof: sometimes it cant be cheap, as long as you only have to buy once
Dec 5, 2017 6:24 AM - Geof: looks like on average UM is arounds 120 euro
Dec 5, 2017 6:24 AM - WheresWaldo: Does you UM2 PSU have a screaming fan in it?
Dec 5, 2017 6:25 AM - Geof: nope. Silent. Doesn't sound like theres a fan. (2+ extended _
Dec 5, 2017 6:26 AM - WheresWaldo: No matter where I put this Robo PSU it sounds like the noise just follows me all over the house.
Dec 5, 2017 6:27 AM - Geof: yea its a bit noisiy for sure.
Dec 5, 2017 6:27 AM - Geof: only thing you can hear on the UM is the feeder
Dec 5, 2017 6:28 AM - Geof: The robo is just loud IMO. Not just the power supply.
Dec 5, 2017 6:28 AM - WheresWaldo: Yes it is
Dec 5, 2017 6:31 AM - daniel871: Build an open top cube out of soundproofing foam large enough to drop over robo/filament spool and drop it over everything once a print is running.
Dec 5, 2017 6:33 AM - jbigler1986: Hey waldo how do you access the filament load and unload in marlin? I don't see it on the LCD anywhere
Dec 5, 2017 6:34 AM - jbigler1986: I tried to write a load and unload gcode and it does every thing except actually move the extruder for some reason
Dec 5, 2017 6:36 AM - Geof: Daniel- that only works out if you want to keep the heat in (ABS/PC etc) would be a killer with PLA since it already is a "hot machine"
Dec 5, 2017 6:37 AM - Geof: jb config.adv there are alot of options for the filament change. Have you looked through those?
Dec 5, 2017 6:39 AM - WheresWaldo: JB I have not, I just do a cold pull when I want to change filaments.
Dec 5, 2017 6:39 AM - WheresWaldo: on the R1 that is.
Dec 5, 2017 6:48 AM - danzca6: I love it when one supplier has a 20% off sale and after shipping it is only 99 cents cheaper than the everyday price with free shipping from PS
Dec 5, 2017 6:49 AM - danzca6: Even getting it straight from the british and shipped it is just a couple dollars of savings
Dec 5, 2017 6:52 AM - jbigler1986: I'm running bowden though and would like to let the extruder do the work
Dec 5, 2017 6:56 AM - Geof: yep. most suppliers do a "sale" but its not off every day prices like Matt does
Dec 5, 2017 6:58 AM - WheresWaldo: So I have this one roll of PLA, at 195°C it has sections that do not flow properly and will leave weak spots in the print. At 200°C it flows good but strings so bacdly that it almost looks like on of those failed hairballs. Think I just have to move on to another roll.
Dec 5, 2017 6:59 AM - WheresWaldo: Danz at least most small sellers don't use the dynamic pricing algorythms that Amazon employs
Dec 5, 2017 7:09 AM - Geof: you can try upping retraction or just dealing with the stringing to use up the spool. Sucks to throw them out.
Dec 5, 2017 7:10 AM - WheresWaldo: Maybe I'll use it on that 3D pen I haven't bought yet.
Dec 5, 2017 7:11 AM - Geof: solid plan!
Dec 5, 2017 7:45 AM - WheresWaldo: Found the equivalent Meanwell power supply for the R2. Mouser, Sager, Jameco, Amazon all sell it, GST220A24-R7B
Dec 5, 2017 7:53 AM - Geof: nice
Dec 5, 2017 7:54 AM - WheresWaldo: Cheapest shipped from US so far ais about $74
Dec 5, 2017 7:55 AM - WheresWaldo: A couple on Amazon cheaper but not Prime
Dec 5, 2017 7:59 AM - Geof: I'm leery when not prime. With prime no nonsense for returns. Without...its a bit sketchy at times.
Dec 5, 2017 8:21 AM - daniel871: I'm a little aggravated that the folks running Makergeeks let shit get out of hand on the customer service side of things. I've had slow shipping times from them but the actual filament I get (well, the PETG anyway) has been good stuff.
Dec 5, 2017 8:29 AM - Geof: I wont order from them again. If its bad enough the BBB posted about them...eeeeekkkk
Dec 5, 2017 8:59 AM - daniel871: Yeah, here's the news release https://www.bbb.org/en/us/article/n...-maker-geeks-fails-to-deliver-goods-bbb-warns
Dec 5, 2017 9:15 AM - danzca6: WW, this one is $68 with free shipping http://a.co/3mzT5i5
Dec 5, 2017 9:15 AM - WheresWaldo: $69 but not Prime
Dec 5, 2017 9:16 AM - danzca6: $5 to get it sooner...either way...hahaha
Dec 5, 2017 9:17 AM - WheresWaldo: Prime isn't only about fast shipping. Bought a sound card last week, didn't work as expected, started return process, Amazon credited my card as soon as UPS picked up the return.
Dec 5, 2017 9:17 AM - danzca6: I've always wanted to convert to using a power brick over the PSU
Dec 5, 2017 9:20 AM - WheresWaldo: Well switching all my R2 fans to 24V and removing the fan from the power supply made it a bunch quieter. I can almost have a normal volume telephone conversation in my office now.
Dec 5, 2017 9:20 AM - WheresWaldo: I'm old I still use a telephone to TALK to people.
Dec 5, 2017 9:22 AM - danzca6: hahaha...I heard something about phones being used for that long ago...hahaha
Dec 5, 2017 9:23 AM - WheresWaldo: My daughter always chides me for using punctuation and full sentences in text messages.
Dec 5, 2017 9:23 AM - WheresWaldo: I also write letters with a fountain pen.
Dec 5, 2017 9:24 AM - Geof: letters?
Dec 5, 2017 9:24 AM - Geof: caveman email?
Dec 5, 2017 9:24 AM - danzca6: do you seal the envelope with a wax press?
Dec 5, 2017 9:25 AM - daniel871: What about an actual power supply like what you'd use in a PC?
Dec 5, 2017 9:25 AM - WheresWaldo: Yeah, even the people at the USPS look at me funny when I ask for postage stamps.
Dec 5, 2017 9:25 AM - WheresWaldo: No wax seals, I'm not quite that old.
Dec 5, 2017 9:25 AM - daniel871: Sealing an envelope with a wax press is actually a neat touch to put on cards you deliver yourself.
Dec 5, 2017 9:26 AM - daniel871: Don't actually mail them though, they won't get through the postal service intact.
Dec 5, 2017 9:26 AM - danzca6: I know my wife likes it when I do that
Dec 5, 2017 9:26 AM - WheresWaldo: PC PSU is a waste of energy and money, you are limited to 12V, you have 3.3 and 5V rails that are powered but unused. It is better to get a power brick.
Dec 5, 2017 9:27 AM - WheresWaldo: 12V rails are only a fraction of a power supplies rated power, too.
Dec 5, 2017 9:42 AM - daniel871: http://reprap.org/wiki/Choosing_a_P...ing_it_.28and_without_voiding_its_warranty.29
Dec 5, 2017 9:43 AM - daniel871: That's referencing an old Reprap build, but since the Robo uses the same Ramps 1.4 to drive it, it should still work.
Dec 5, 2017 9:45 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan that article may have been relevant in 2014 but not anymore. Okay if you have a PC PSU laying around but a single purpose supply would still be better
Dec 5, 2017 11:19 AM - daniel871: You mean you *don't* keep old PC components for repurposing in other projects?
Dec 5, 2017 11:21 AM - daniel871: Also, remember that the R1 *is* 2014 tech. Unless you're willing to spend a lot more on that PSU than the cheap options for a quieter-operating power supply, it doesn't get much easier than the linked article.
Dec 5, 2017 11:31 AM - daniel871: Unless you're going to drop a pile of money on one of these.
Dec 5, 2017 11:46 AM - Geof: He is doing it to the R2 silly not the R1
Dec 5, 2017 11:46 AM - Geof: His R1 is actually my R1 he just doesn't know it yet
Dec 5, 2017 12:27 PM - WheresWaldo: I have no clue what you guys are talking about.
Dec 5, 2017 12:28 PM - Geof: 90% of the time I'm unsure what I'm talking about
Dec 5, 2017 12:42 PM - WheresWaldo: I took the fan out of the R2 power supply. It is completely quiet now. Now to address the noise coming from the printer.
Dec 5, 2017 12:51 PM - Geof: The majority of that noise IMO is the stepper drivers. The motion is insanely loud.
Dec 5, 2017 12:57 PM - WheresWaldo: Well I don't see Robo doing anything about that.
Dec 5, 2017 12:58 PM - Geof: I dont see us doing anything about it either unless someone guts the board and replaces it with a standard ramps and replaceable stepper drivers so quality ones can be put in.
Dec 5, 2017 12:58 PM - Geof: Silent step stick would be sweeeeeettttttt
Dec 5, 2017 12:58 PM - Geof: I absolutely hate that they have non replaceable drivers on the main.
Dec 5, 2017 12:59 PM - Geof: its the same motion system as the UM so in reality it should be just as quiet, the only thing hindering it is that main board from what I can tell
Dec 5, 2017 1:03 PM - WheresWaldo: I have the R2 in my office, I can't be printing and on the phone at the same time, it is that loud.
Dec 5, 2017 1:04 PM - Geof: yep. I hear it over all the machines in the shop. Literally....all of othem.
Dec 5, 2017 1:05 PM - Geof: it gets drown out by the CR10 if its doing circles but thats it.
Dec 5, 2017 1:05 PM - WheresWaldo: This is what happens when you let someone else create your BOM

 

Dec 5, 2017 1:07 PM - WheresWaldo: My fans are loud too, but I might have had an oddball machine, they were 12V fans for parts cooling and the hotend cooling.
Dec 5, 2017 1:07 PM - WheresWaldo: Switching to 24V fans and they quieted down as well as running within spec now.
Dec 5, 2017 1:09 PM - WheresWaldo: The big fat fan under the cover also doesn't have a label on my version. I am wondering what the specs on that fan are. I do think it is 24V since it isn't a screamer.
Dec 5, 2017 1:21 PM - Geof: Im not sure if mine does either will try to remember to look tomorrow. Im never syre ifnits running or what exactly its suppose to be cooling
Dec 5, 2017 2:10 PM - WheresWaldo: My mainboard has heat sinks on the stepper drivers, but the pictures that Mark posted I think didn't.
Dec 5, 2017 7:45 PM - KRGraphicsCG: Not thrilled
Dec 5, 2017 7:45 PM - KRGraphicsCG: I am getting that white screen crap again
Dec 5, 2017 7:46 PM - KRGraphicsCG: Haven't turned on the printer in a while...

 

Dec 6, 2017 5:26 AM - Geof: Good Morning
Dec 6, 2017 5:48 AM - WheresWaldo: Morning
Dec 6, 2017 6:19 AM - Geof: how goe sit
Dec 6, 2017 6:20 AM - WheresWaldo: Looking over my Med Ins statement of benefits so I know how much out of pocket my surgery will cost.
Dec 6, 2017 6:21 AM - WheresWaldo: Otherwise, about to unload this red PLA spool and move on to something I hope doesn't have the same issues.
Dec 6, 2017 6:22 AM - WheresWaldo: Catching up on the current Cycling news and some 3D printer news.
Dec 6, 2017 6:23 AM - Geof: good times! I'm running some junko abs through the R2 all week to 1.get it used up 2.its stuff for a kids class- not super critical lol
Dec 6, 2017 6:23 AM - Geof: found 9 spools of ABS I'd forgotten about somewhere along the way lol
Dec 6, 2017 6:24 AM - WheresWaldo: I always like finding stuff I forgot about, its like getting unexpected presents.
Dec 6, 2017 6:24 AM - WheresWaldo: That is one reason I order very non-essential stuff from Banggod or AliExpress, when it arrives I am like a kid getting his first bicycle.
Dec 6, 2017 6:25 AM - Geof: lol right! Its some pretty crap ABS but meh lol. whatever. It runs lol.
Dec 6, 2017 6:25 AM - Geof: LOL because you cant remember what you ordered?
Dec 6, 2017 6:25 AM - KRGraphicsCG: I should make this a personal day so I can fix my printer
Dec 6, 2017 6:25 AM - WheresWaldo: Before I put in the new roll of PLA I might try the sample Polycarb Matt included in my last order.
Dec 6, 2017 6:28 AM - Geof: KR thats not a bad idea buddy I've though about retreating back to the home shop
Dec 6, 2017 6:28 AM - Geof: I would! PC is awesome!
Dec 6, 2017 6:30 AM - WheresWaldo: Yeah, got a roll of filament from Amazon yesterday (not PRIME) and I was like, who rang my doortbell at 8PM and saw the package, forgot I was missing it. Its easier to forget what you order from China since it is at least a two week delivery time usually more.
Dec 6, 2017 6:30 AM - WheresWaldo: Every day should be a personal day.
Dec 6, 2017 6:31 AM - Geof: agreed! lol one day I'll retire if thats still a thing when I get there lol.
Dec 6, 2017 6:31 AM - Geof: my replacement dagoma showed up and a 2d printer yesterday I needed. dagoma- 11am. printer- 7:58 pm lol
Dec 6, 2017 6:33 AM - daniel871: I was excited to ask what printer until I realized that was "2d" not "2nd".
Dec 6, 2017 6:33 AM - WheresWaldo: Did Joel give the Dagoma his usual good review?
Dec 6, 2017 6:34 AM - daniel871: I think so.
Dec 6, 2017 6:34 AM - WheresWaldo: Does he dislike anything?
Dec 6, 2017 6:36 AM - daniel871: Actually he never reviewed it, just streamed the unboxing and setup.
Dec 6, 2017 6:36 AM - Geof: lol IDK daniel its a HP Envy..pretty sweet little widget...prints better than some of the 3D printers I've owned LMAO
Dec 6, 2017 6:37 AM - Geof: my thoughts on the dagoma is cheap toy . no brains go into slicing- their cura version is simplified almost to the point of unuseable (good for a kid).
Dec 6, 2017 6:37 AM - Geof: the bed leveling/perfect first layer is....not true lol.
Dec 6, 2017 6:38 AM - Geof: Its loud no heat bed clone V6 no actual part cooler.
Dec 6, 2017 6:38 AM - Geof: but its 250.00 new so meh lol
Dec 6, 2017 6:38 AM - WheresWaldo: I'm looking at the Cura interface now.
Dec 6, 2017 6:38 AM - Geof: yep. Click Click Click and you get what you get lol
Dec 6, 2017 6:39 AM - daniel871: For $250 you could get several much better machines that aren't made out of PLA and chewing gum.
Dec 6, 2017 6:39 AM - WheresWaldo: It only accepts a single filename? dogoma.g only!
Dec 6, 2017 6:40 AM - Geof: yessir.
Dec 6, 2017 6:40 AM - Geof: thats it.
Dec 6, 2017 6:40 AM - WheresWaldo: The filament change is kinda interesting.
Dec 6, 2017 6:40 AM - Geof: Daniel- depends on what you want.
Dec 6, 2017 6:40 AM - Geof: filament change is super fun lol. tap tap
Dec 6, 2017 6:41 AM - daniel871: If you want a PLA-only Delta kit, you could get one of those Kossel deltas for about the same price with a far more rigid frame and standard open-source firmware.
Dec 6, 2017 6:42 AM - Geof: I have a Kossel Delta- Its a pile buddy. lol. Not a good machine. Dagoma was picked up to test for a local school who needs preassembled, easy to use, PLA. Not many machines fit that category for a few hundred bucks.
Dec 6, 2017 6:43 AM - daniel871: The Dagoma was pre-assembled?
Dec 6, 2017 6:44 AM - daniel871: Also, not all Kossel kits are the same.
Dec 6, 2017 6:44 AM - daniel871: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/201...-Rostock-mini-3D-Printer-Kit/32814196072.html
Dec 6, 2017 6:44 AM - Geof: yessir. Pull it out of the box. Magnetic arms had to be attached. That was it
Dec 6, 2017 6:44 AM - Geof: got one?
Dec 6, 2017 6:44 AM - WheresWaldo: So in other ironic news....
Dec 6, 2017 6:44 AM - WheresWaldo: China launches first electric cargo ship ...
Dec 6, 2017 6:45 AM - WheresWaldo: To haul coal to power plants.
Dec 6, 2017 6:45 AM - Geof: yea I saw that lolo
Dec 6, 2017 6:46 AM - daniel871: I like this workflow image from that listing.
Dec 6, 2017 6:49 AM - daniel871: Well, the bottom portion more than the firmware path. They ought to be separate images.
Dec 6, 2017 6:51 AM - WheresWaldo: Yeah the firmware path was just stupid.
Dec 6, 2017 8:02 AM - WheresWaldo: I hate working on network issues.
Dec 6, 2017 8:03 AM - daniel871: Not really. It's just that you do that only once and it has nothing to do with the STL-> Printed part path (it's a totally separate workflow).
Dec 6, 2017 8:08 AM - WheresWaldo: There is no workflow involved in Marlin >>flash>>Printer, but my comment was general networking not 3D printer related.
Dec 6, 2017 8:09 AM - WheresWaldo: Had to RMA a 16 port switch
Dec 6, 2017 8:10 AM - WheresWaldo: One reason to buy Business Class switches, got a free replacement even though this switch was purchased in Nov 2009.
Dec 6, 2017 12:04 PM - WheresWaldo: I see jim3Dbot is in the house.
Dec 6, 2017 12:12 PM - jim3Dbot: Mr.Waldo.........Hey.......from Gomer!

 

Dec 7, 2017 4:31 AM - daniel871: https://i.imgur.com/0EbWl6P.gifv
Dec 7, 2017 6:41 AM - daniel871: https://j.gifs.com/yrX4wW.gif
Dec 7, 2017 1:25 PM - daniel871: Hot damn the Onion is on fire. https://politics.theonion.com/rnc-w...utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing
Dec 7, 2017 1:33 PM - Geof: Waldo u around ?
Dec 7, 2017 1:35 PM - WheresWaldo: Yep, what do you need?
Dec 7, 2017 1:39 PM - Geof: You sure the fans are 24V?
Dec 7, 2017 1:40 PM - Geof: My cold end is 12 on the machine. I thought it said 24 but gad it out today and it says 12 !
Dec 7, 2017 1:40 PM - Geof: Part fans show 24V on the sticker
Dec 7, 2017 1:41 PM - WheresWaldo: I am using a 24V E3Dv6 but as soon as the current print is done I will put a meter on it.
Dec 7, 2017 1:42 PM - WheresWaldo: I think the OEM 25 mm fan may be 12v just so they can shove enough air to not have heat creep.
Dec 7, 2017 1:43 PM - WheresWaldo: The whole extruder assembly has very poor cooling performance.
Dec 7, 2017 1:44 PM - WheresWaldo: All my fans were 12V even the parts cooling fans, they all scream like banshee's. I swapped them for 24V.
Dec 7, 2017 1:45 PM - WheresWaldo: Besides what would be the point of a 24V supply if they were going to step down to 12V on the extruder.
Dec 7, 2017 1:51 PM - WheresWaldo: Geof, I'll give you a definitive answer in about 20 minutes, that is what is left for the current print.
Dec 7, 2017 1:53 PM - WheresWaldo: I did check voltage on Extruder 1 while it is printing and it read 16V (I don't have a true RMS meter) which would be about right while trying to maintain hotend temp.
Dec 7, 2017 1:54 PM - Geof: Thanks Waldo will check back -!
Dec 7, 2017 1:54 PM - WheresWaldo: Geof does the Hexagon come in a 24V?
Dec 7, 2017 1:56 PM - WheresWaldo: Just found it, but the 24V has a bigger hot zone. I bet it is a cost saving measure.
Dec 7, 2017 1:59 PM - WheresWaldo: this is a 24V Hexagon 1.75 mm
Dec 7, 2017 2:00 PM - WheresWaldo: this is a 12V Hexagon 1.75 mm
Dec 7, 2017 2:01 PM - WheresWaldo: These images are of genuine RepRapDiscount Hexagons
Dec 7, 2017 2:05 PM - Geof: Yes indeed. Saw that too. Lulzbot uses the larger melt zone one, bit more expensive
Dec 7, 2017 2:23 PM - WheresWaldo: Okay, I just measured and the fans are running at 24V so I am assuming the Hotend is 24V too. When I took the extruder apart to put in the E3Dv6 the two boards, top and one the fans plug into is just a connection point no other circuitry so nothing to drop voltage.
Dec 7, 2017 2:24 PM - WheresWaldo: The ceramic cartridge heater can work over a range of voltages since it is a purely resistive load.
Dec 7, 2017 2:25 PM - WheresWaldo: I bet the reason is simply cost savings.
Dec 7, 2017 2:36 PM - daniel871: Jesus Christ Joel Telling is such a dummy.
Dec 7, 2017 2:37 PM - daniel871: Watch that video he posted about the Prusa with MMU today until he talks about the bearings in the spool holders.
Dec 7, 2017 2:38 PM - daniel871: "They must've bought a ton of fidget spinners to get the bearings for these spool holders".
Dec 7, 2017 2:39 PM - WheresWaldo: Every time I watch JT after he is done I just think to myself, there is 20 minutes I won't ever get back.
Dec 7, 2017 4:08 PM - Geof: Waldo just talked with Jerry who says fans are all 12V from mains board. Hotend and bed are 24V

 

Dec 7, 2017 8:21 PM - WheresWaldo: Geof, I looked over the schematic diagram I was sent and that is correct fans run at 12V hotend and bed run at 24V
Dec 8, 2017 5:29 AM - Geof: yea I just put a meter on mine for about the 300th time wondering why lol
Dec 8, 2017 5:38 AM - JeffTheMess: morning roboneers TGIF
Dec 8, 2017 6:32 AM - Geof: howdy!
Dec 8, 2017 6:34 AM - JeffTheMess: hows it goin
Dec 8, 2017 7:03 AM - Geof: Busy busy lol. 23 of 29 machines rollin
Dec 8, 2017 7:20 AM - JeffTheMess: wow fun!
Dec 8, 2017 7:21 AM - Geof: depends on if they fail or not
Dec 8, 2017 8:39 AM - WheresWaldo: Hey Geof, I'm still scratching me head over the fan choices.
Dec 8, 2017 8:40 AM - Geof: Yea I'm not getting it. It seems very simple thing to grasp but man...Its just .... confusing me.
Dec 8, 2017 8:41 AM - Geof: 12V to all fans off the board I know for sure, I'm just confused why not stick with 24. But then again it makes sense, reuse as many existing parts as possible from the R1 series.
Dec 8, 2017 8:48 AM - WheresWaldo: Or create a supply chain that can service both the R2 and C2
Dec 8, 2017 8:49 AM - WheresWaldo: If this Mainboard ever needs to come out, at least I know where the two dropping resistors are and I can remove them to use 24V fans.
Dec 8, 2017 8:50 AM - Geof: 12V fans are fine, just need good ones I spose. I didnt' realize that was the exact same cold end fan as on the R1 series. no wonder I have issues at high temp long prints lol
Dec 8, 2017 8:50 AM - Geof: will be swapping for a 30mm e3d fan I have on the shelf
Dec 8, 2017 10:13 AM - WheresWaldo: Print the fan shroud I designed, puts the 30 mm cold zone fan directly behind the heat sink.
Dec 8, 2017 10:14 AM - Geof: workin on droppin in the promethius. It utilizes a 25mm fan bolted direct to the hotend. (if it fits) then I can leave my machine mostly stock
Dec 8, 2017 10:14 AM - Geof: plus have a better hotend
Dec 8, 2017 10:16 AM - Geof: I've got 2 fan ducts from robo to try out yet then mine lol. Right now I'm just tryin to go for running
Dec 8, 2017 10:17 AM - WheresWaldo: I'm not having any issue running, still have a bad Z Max endstop switch, currently I just shorted it and use the IR as the Z Min endstop.
Dec 8, 2017 10:18 AM - Geof: XT has ate my hotend lol. it just isn't doing well
Dec 8, 2017 10:18 AM - Geof: I swapped for a new hex and its fine, but figure while down try out what it takes to fit the promethius
Dec 8, 2017 10:20 AM - WheresWaldo: Problem with the IR, it isn't very consistant. I enabled Probe Repeatability test and I don't suggest anyone else do the same.
Dec 8, 2017 10:21 AM - WheresWaldo: I should finally have my 24V LED strip so I can finish the lighting mod. Maybe having more light will increase the accuracy of the IR sensor.
Dec 8, 2017 10:22 AM - Geof: LEDS are 12V too I hear
Dec 8, 2017 10:23 AM - WheresWaldo: I am powering it from the last set of power pins, those pins supply 24V
Dec 8, 2017 10:24 AM - WheresWaldo: Remember I wanted a g-code controlled light upgrade, so I wasn't planning on attaching to where the existing LEDs attach.
Dec 8, 2017 10:26 AM - Geof: ah gotya
Dec 8, 2017 10:28 AM - WheresWaldo: They don't label the LED connection on the mainboard.
Dec 8, 2017 10:34 AM - WheresWaldo: If I read the schematics correctly they did wire up the LCD Smart Controller / Encoder EXP1 and EXP2 ports as well as the on board SD connector.
Dec 8, 2017 11:58 AM - Geof: all mounted up, just waiting on a spacer to print so I can get the IR to detect the bed.
Dec 8, 2017 12:26 PM - WheresWaldo: Got my 5M of 24V White LED strip in the mail, need to wire it up and install inside the R2. But right in the middle of a customer design request.
Dec 8, 2017 12:58 PM - Geof: broke the thermistor because I have monkey paws lol. Have an E3D thermistor swapped in so will ahve to wait until Monday for when I can adjust the firmware for the new thermistor
Dec 8, 2017 1:44 PM - WheresWaldo: The tables are very close to one another, you could still use it until you modify the firmware for the new thermistor.
Dec 8, 2017 6:19 PM - Geof: Its at the work shop, stayin at the home shop this weekend

 

Dec 9, 2017 at 5:13 PM - jbigler1986: Hello
Dec 9, 2017 at 6:20 PM - Geof: @BJS227 try an introduction post if you didnt see my reply
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:34 PM - danzca6:
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:35 PM - danzca6: Great video on getting your printer to use the drivers Prusa uses on the MK3
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:36 PM - WheresWaldo: Danz what are you doing up at this hour?
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:37 PM - danzca6: watching ChaosCoreTech put together the MK3
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:37 PM - danzca6: actually his wife Chelsey is putting it together
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:38 PM - danzca6: and it's only 9:30 here...hahaha...still get a few minutes before my bedtime
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:38 PM - WheresWaldo: You are only 1 hour behind me. Did you get any snow?
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:39 PM - danzca6: about and inch...just enough for them to salt the heck out of the roads
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:40 PM - WheresWaldo: Only wet and cold here in Charlotte. My nephew in Asheville said it snowed all night and most of today.
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:41 PM - danzca6: I've seen some places got 10"....not ready for that yet
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:43 PM - WheresWaldo: So Danz, when Marlin 1.1.7 shows up I am going to enable Case lighting, finished up my mod for the R2, so it turns on the case lights when getting ready to print and turns them off after its done.
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:46 PM - danzca6: I was just thinking of that today when I was printing how that would be nice
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:46 PM - danzca6: I already have it where the fans are off unless printing or the hotend is at or above a certain temp
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:48 PM - WheresWaldo: The way I did it was to use a spare hardware PWM pin added a PWM controlled MOSFET then the strips. Modified pins file to enable CASE_LIGHT_ENABLE on the chosen pin so M355 controls both on/off and brightness.
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:49 PM - danzca6: nice...looking forward to a write-up if you do one with the release of 1.1.7
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:51 PM - WheresWaldo: I wrote up in Projects on the R2 sub-forum, but it will work pretty much the same on the R1
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:51 PM - danzca6: oh cool...I'll check that out
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:51 PM - danzca6: need more projects
Dec 9, 2017 at 7:52 PM - WheresWaldo: I even showed how to add the code to OctoPrint's config.yaml so you can control it from OctoPrint.

 

Dec 10, 2017 at 5:50 AM - danzca6: MEDRAM filament on Amazon only $9.99/kg Prime (many colors) http://a.co/f0p5Wqm
Dec 10, 2017 at 7:16 AM - Geof: Hey danz
Dec 10, 2017 at 7:35 AM - WheresWaldo: Thanks Danz, ordered 4 rolls in assorted colors.
Dec 10, 2017 at 7:35 AM - WheresWaldo: Will get delivered today.
Dec 10, 2017 at 7:36 AM - WheresWaldo: Geof, morning, hows it going?
Dec 10, 2017 at 7:47 AM - Geof: Hey Waldo going well. Waiting on some motivation lol
Dec 10, 2017 at 8:25 AM - WheresWaldo: I started a replay of Castle Wolfenstein II, nothing really want to print. Although I found a sample of eSun eLastic (TPU) that I had tucked away in a box, need to find something to print with it.
Dec 10, 2017 at 8:44 AM - Geof: Tpu is alot of fun
Dec 10, 2017 at 5:53 PM - WheresWaldo: Geof, I am trying to figure out how to turn off and on the case lights in the R2. Since their new Marlin (still in RC) has a bunch of code to do it, or it should work (it doesn't).
Dec 10, 2017 at 5:54 PM - WheresWaldo: Got my Amazon delivery about an hour ago, now I have more PLA than I ever printed on my R1
Dec 10, 2017 at 6:03 PM - danzca6: wait what?
Dec 10, 2017 at 6:04 PM - danzca6: you ordered today and got it today? dang
Dec 10, 2017 at 6:04 PM - danzca6: how's it look?
Dec 10, 2017 at 7:59 PM - WheresWaldo: Will know better tomorrow. Right now it just looks like filament.

 

Dec 10, 2017 8:05 PM - danzca6: I see most of them are sold out now as well...so I bet they won't be $9.99 when/if back in stock
Dec 11, 2017 6:08 AM - danzca6: Well I bought 4 of the Trinamic 2130 drivers...after seeing Tom's video this weekend I want to try them on the R1 Ramps board and see if they live up to the hype
Dec 11, 2017 6:09 AM - danzca6: can't wait until marlin gets the shift detection logic implemented though. That would be cool.
Dec 11, 2017 6:10 AM - WheresWaldo: I think that its already in the Bugfix version
Dec 11, 2017 6:10 AM - danzca6: he mentioned it would be in the next release...so I'm hopeful
Dec 11, 2017 6:11 AM - danzca6: seeing folks with their MK3 machines makes me a bit jealous of the new tech
Dec 11, 2017 6:11 AM - danzca6: I may try removing the X and Y endstops as well
Dec 11, 2017 6:12 AM - Geof: I dont like beta testing I'll wait
Dec 11, 2017 6:12 AM - Geof: I've already heard from a few different people of issues with runout and shift detection.
Dec 11, 2017 6:12 AM - danzca6: it's the future Geof....only going to get better
Dec 11, 2017 6:13 AM - danzca6: I love testing new things out
Dec 11, 2017 6:13 AM - danzca6: but isn't my job either
Dec 11, 2017 6:13 AM - WheresWaldo: There is already a fork that implements Stallguard instead of endstop switches
Dec 11, 2017 6:14 AM - danzca6: my issue is that I am starting to run out of pins on my ramps to implement all the features I want to
Dec 11, 2017 6:15 AM - danzca6: I may have to breakout to a Pi to implement some of the features there
Dec 11, 2017 6:15 AM - WheresWaldo: Take a peek at this discussion https://github.com/MarlinFirmware/Marlin/pull/5179
Dec 11, 2017 6:16 AM - WheresWaldo: Danz, How much do you want your printer to do, it is just a printer after all.
Dec 11, 2017 6:18 AM - danzca6: I'm still waiting for it to bring me my beer
Dec 11, 2017 6:19 AM - WheresWaldo: Most people would be fine with TMC2100's. Wished Robo would have invested in that instead of adding current monitoring chips to their new board revision.
Dec 11, 2017 6:20 AM - danzca6: I think my duet wifi has TMC2660 drivers
Dec 11, 2017 6:20 AM - danzca6: always wanted to put that in the Robo
Dec 11, 2017 6:20 AM - danzca6: never took the time
Dec 11, 2017 6:21 AM - danzca6: I think the 2130 chips will be good enough for the Robo and I'll put the duet in another machine
Dec 11, 2017 6:22 AM - danzca6: 2100's are only a buck cheaper...so I would just go for the 2130's
Dec 11, 2017 6:22 AM - WheresWaldo: If the R2 Mainboard ever fails, I will replace it with something I can put my own drivers in. The way I keep poking this board that may be sooner rather than later.
Dec 11, 2017 6:22 AM - danzca6: thanks for the thread btw...I'll be reading through that this morning
Dec 11, 2017 7:22 AM - Geof: hey waldo, on the R2 whats the connectors for the heater and thermistor?
Dec 11, 2017 7:22 AM - Geof: figure you probably know off hand
Dec 11, 2017 7:26 AM - WheresWaldo: Bed thermistor is labeled BED and is right in the middle of the board.
Dec 11, 2017 7:27 AM - Geof: no on the hotend, the actual connectors for the heater and thermistor that go to that pain inthe ass board
Dec 11, 2017 7:29 AM - WheresWaldo: JST-EH, is that what you meant?
Dec 11, 2017 7:29 AM - Geof: yessir. both the 2 pins are the same?
Dec 11, 2017 7:31 AM - WheresWaldo: I am pretty sure the heater is JST-PH
Dec 11, 2017 7:32 AM - Geof: I'll have to get out the book and do some measuring Thermistor and heater are 2 different ones.
Dec 11, 2017 7:32 AM - WheresWaldo: So the thermistor and fans use the same JST-EH connectors and the heater is slightly bigger and uses a 2-pin JST-PH
Dec 11, 2017 7:38 AM - Geof: gotya. Thanks buddy. Wierd issues while swapping to the promethius.
Dec 11, 2017 7:42 AM - WheresWaldo:
Dec 11, 2017 7:43 AM - Geof: yep them widgets.
Dec 11, 2017 7:44 AM - WheresWaldo: The tiny Thermistor and Fan connectors are harder to find and use tiny crimp connectors.
Dec 11, 2017 7:44 AM - Geof: Basically whats going on (is with non error) on start up of the R2 the extruder heats...and continues to heat...until max temp or I shut the machine off . Either the thermistor which checks fine is shorted, or the heater which checks fine is shorted D:
Dec 11, 2017 7:44 AM - WheresWaldo: Did you splice the wiring?
Dec 11, 2017 7:45 AM - Geof: yes
Dec 11, 2017 7:45 AM - WheresWaldo: etherm1 and eheat1 are toward the rear of the printer.
Dec 11, 2017 7:47 AM - WheresWaldo: I try not to splice if I don't have to. It is just another possible point of failure.
Dec 11, 2017 7:55 AM - Geof: indeed, thats why I'm going for the connectors now
Dec 11, 2017 7:55 AM - Geof: I didn't have any
Dec 11, 2017 7:58 AM - WheresWaldo: I also have one of these https://smile.amazon.com/Engineer-PA-09-Micro-Connector-Crimpers/dp/B002AVVO7K
Dec 11, 2017 8:00 AM - WheresWaldo: It makes those fancy double curled crimps that work very well with these small connectors.
Dec 11, 2017 8:02 AM - Geof: I normally use pliers, suppose its about time
Dec 11, 2017 8:07 AM - WheresWaldo: Hey, you are particular about using the right printer for the right job, so you should use the right tool too.
Dec 11, 2017 8:10 AM - Geof: indeed . Will get em . Now to find US Sources for the pins and both connectors that doesn't charge stupid money
Dec 11, 2017 8:11 AM - WheresWaldo: I had to get the EH from Digikey
Dec 11, 2017 8:11 AM - WheresWaldo: You can get the PH connectors from Amazon.
Dec 11, 2017 8:13 AM - Geof: 2.5 ?
Dec 11, 2017 8:14 AM - Geof: like so ? https://www.amazon.com/WINGONEER-JS...3008531&sr=8-7&keywords=jstph+connector+2+pin
Dec 11, 2017 8:22 AM - WheresWaldo: Those are for the heater cartridge.
Dec 11, 2017 8:25 AM - Geof: sweet. Did you buy a kit like that from digikey? Or invidivual pins and connectors? Part numbers?
Dec 11, 2017 8:25 AM - Geof: I assume this : https://www.digikey.com/product-det...2B-PH-TW-S-LF-SN/B2B-PH-TW-S-LF-SN-ND/5405202
Dec 11, 2017 8:26 AM - WheresWaldo: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/jst-sales-america-inc/EHR-2/455-1000-ND/527224
Dec 11, 2017 8:26 AM - WheresWaldo: These are the Thermistor and Fans
Dec 11, 2017 8:27 AM - Geof: and the pins are these : https://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&itemSeq=246385939&uq=636485845076602499
Dec 11, 2017 8:28 AM - WheresWaldo: I had a whole bunch of connectors from my RC UAV days, but not crimps, so I got the crimps from Digikey
Dec 11, 2017 8:30 AM - Geof: buying connectors are the listed pins above now. already have the heater PH version coming from amazon. Thanks buddy!
Dec 11, 2017 8:31 AM - daniel871: https://i.imgur.com/vbhS505.gifv
Dec 11, 2017 8:31 AM - WheresWaldo: If I could have found the EH on Amazon I would have bought them there. But I had multiple pin numbers from China, just needed more crimps.
Dec 11, 2017 8:34 AM - Geof: yea would have been nice to have the Eh through amazon but digikey is fine. 100 crimps and 50 connectors for 13.00 with shipping. meh lol.
Dec 11, 2017 8:34 AM - Geof: I'm suspecting the board itself has an issue but will put back togather a hexagon and give it a go
Dec 11, 2017 8:41 AM - daniel871: Good news! https://i.imgur.com/wjhwRm9l.jpg
Dec 11, 2017 2:23 PM - WheresWaldo: Geof, the more I use the new bed the more I hate Buildtak!
Dec 11, 2017 6:58 PM - Geof: Lol why is that ?

 

Dec 11, 2017 8:39 PM - WheresWaldo: Mars very easily, too hard to clean off and is very particular about bed adhesion.
Dec 12, 2017 5:31 AM - Geof: yea its a bit picky, not the greatest thing in the world. Not sure why they switched from PEI to that?
Dec 12, 2017 5:56 AM - WheresWaldo: I am going to switch to PEI. The robo bed uses a 0.80 mm sheet, might as well have been 1.0 mm. I have a sheet of frosted white PEI on its way, I hope the white will make the IR more consistent.
Dec 12, 2017 6:01 AM - jim3Dbot: I have found.....flat black seems to be the best.....less glare......solid white works too
Dec 12, 2017 6:14 AM - Geof: indeed. Shiny white may cause some issues
Dec 12, 2017 6:26 AM - WheresWaldo: I might try frosted in black too. the big issue is that everyone that pre-applies the 3m adhesive sheet appears to like the shiny side out better.
Dec 12, 2017 6:27 AM - Geof: yep they do. can always sand it to rid the shiny.
Dec 12, 2017 6:27 AM - WheresWaldo: That is what I have been doing. one more step that should be totally unnecessary.
Dec 12, 2017 6:29 AM - Geof: can get adhesive sheet and pei sheet and asssemble yourself?
Dec 12, 2017 6:30 AM - WheresWaldo: After this experiement I might try as think a piece of glass as I can find. Both versions of the bed are basically the same size 229 mm square with about a 12 mm rounded corners.
Dec 12, 2017 6:31 AM - WheresWaldo: Can get it separate, but not from our usually favorite sources.
Dec 12, 2017 6:32 AM - WheresWaldo: I saw an article once somewhere, where the blog author used a tempered glass screen protector for a tablet as a build plate.
Dec 12, 2017 6:32 AM - WheresWaldo: It would certainly be thin enough.
Dec 12, 2017 6:33 AM - WheresWaldo: The aluminum heat spreader Robo uses is anodized black, so glass should be okay.
Dec 12, 2017 6:34 AM - WheresWaldo: As I post more stuff in the Robo Marlin GITHUB the more I learn about the new 2.1.8 Mainboard.
Dec 12, 2017 6:36 AM - WheresWaldo: It looks like R47 and R28 will not be populated in the new board so owners will gain PWM control of the case lights, for whatever that is worth.
Dec 12, 2017 6:37 AM - WheresWaldo: I am going to write up a mod that will control the existing lights by removing R47 only.
Dec 12, 2017 6:38 AM - WheresWaldo: R28 is for that big fan under the lid. I see no reason to mess with it.

 

Dec 13, 2017 5:53 AM - danzca6: saved myself from making a purchase yesterday...I hate 3d printer deals that tempt me all day
Dec 13, 2017 5:55 AM - danzca6: Printrbot was getting rid of their stock of Plus machines (just the hardware no electronics or anything) for $99. 10x10x10 build area with linear rails. Not bad, but the $50 shipping was too much to swallow. If I bought 2 it would be free shipping. But what would I do with 2? haha
Dec 13, 2017 6:01 AM - WheresWaldo: You can never have too many parts!
Dec 13, 2017 6:02 AM - danzca6: I have enough I probably could have built out both and sold one
Dec 13, 2017 6:02 AM - danzca6: I really need to do something about all these parts...haha
Dec 13, 2017 6:03 AM - danzca6: I just couldn't get over charging half the price of an item for shipping...I'm too used to Amazon Prime
Dec 13, 2017 6:08 AM - WheresWaldo: Don't forget that free shipping isn't really free, someone pays and that someone is you.
Dec 13, 2017 6:11 AM - danzca6: yeah...true true...darn it...now I'm having regrets I didn't just buy 2...hahaha
Dec 13, 2017 6:12 AM - daniel871: Damn, Makergeeks has gone full tilt "Fuck it, we're scamming people now" and sent out an email about accepting buttcoins instead of actual currency.
Dec 13, 2017 6:13 AM - WheresWaldo: Dan8 quick take out a second mortgage to buy up bitcoin. Who was it that said there is a sucker born every minute?
Dec 13, 2017 6:16 AM - daniel871: I like to send this link to people whenever they try to say Bitcoin is worth wasting money on. http://bitsim.beepboopbitcoin.com/
Dec 13, 2017 6:17 AM - daniel871: Things get hilarious once you finally get a "mining" rig and run it too many times.
Dec 13, 2017 6:18 AM - WheresWaldo: Individuals don't or shouldn't mine bitcoin, it is too expensive. Most are mining alternative cryptocoin.
Dec 13, 2017 6:19 AM - daniel871: "mining alternative cryptocoin" is a phrase that ranks right up there with things like "I'm not falling for that Avon MLM scam, I'm going with Amway".
Dec 13, 2017 6:19 AM - WheresWaldo: Too many mining farms now. Plus websites that inject mining code in their web pages, saw recent article that said over 2600 known sites now mine for themselves without telling the visitor.
Dec 13, 2017 6:20 AM - WheresWaldo: Hey, I am not endorsing mining in any form, just mentioning that alternative coin is now the norm.
Dec 13, 2017 6:21 AM - daniel871: Idiotic bitcoin endorsements is why I unsubscribed from a bunch of Youtube channels that used to be entertaining before the people running them started just full on promoting scams to their viewers.
Dec 13, 2017 6:24 AM - WheresWaldo: So Dan8 on anothjer subject, what is going on with the Monospace Delta?
Dec 13, 2017 6:27 AM - daniel871: It's waiting on me to have some dead time at work to finish wiring the endstops up properly. I need to get some new connectors to use because the original plastic ones wore out swapping wires around until OPEN/TRIGGERED responded properly with M119
Dec 13, 2017 6:27 AM - WheresWaldo: At the very least you now know exactly how they are wired.
Dec 13, 2017 6:29 AM - daniel871: For the most part. I had some individual pin connectors to put on the wires to make swapping them around easier after the original plastic plugs stopped holding the wires, but they don't stay in place on the pins on the board when I try to route the mess of wiring to one side so the electronics cooling fan can actually blow air across the board.
Dec 13, 2017 6:30 AM - daniel871: I have these, but think I need something better. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014YTPFT8
Dec 13, 2017 6:31 AM - daniel871: They just don't grip the pins when plugging them in.
Dec 13, 2017 6:31 AM - WheresWaldo: Dupont connectors are really made for header pins which are thicker than the pins in those connectors.
Dec 13, 2017 6:32 AM - WheresWaldo: Those JST connectors have much smaller guage pins.
Dec 13, 2017 6:36 AM - daniel871: So something like this set? https://www.amazon.com/Hilitchi-JST-XHP-housing-Connector-Adapter/dp/B015Y6JOUG
Dec 13, 2017 6:55 AM - WheresWaldo: Hard to say, there are EH and XH and PH styles of connectors all with different sized housings. I don't know exactly what connector those use, but my guess is XH. I know that steppers usually use PH and small fans (like 30 and 25 mm) usually use EH.
Dec 13, 2017 6:59 AM - JeffTheMess: morning robonauts
Dec 13, 2017 7:35 AM - daniel871: Good news for today:
Dec 13, 2017 7:38 AM - daniel871: Also Thomas Sanladerer is livestreaming his hangprinter build if anyone wants to watch that.
Dec 13, 2017 7:40 AM - Geof: Building one of those currently (its in the line up lol)
Dec 13, 2017 7:40 AM - Geof: will try to check out the stream recording. I hate watching live
Dec 13, 2017 7:59 AM - JeffTheMess: lulz thats awesome
Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM - JeffTheMess: is it plausible to convert the r1 to an ultimaker style printer?
Dec 13, 2017 10:13 AM - Geof: no
Dec 13, 2017 10:14 AM - JeffTheMess: seems like a challenge for me maybe
Dec 13, 2017 10:15 AM - Geof: seems like a waste of resources. Just build an UM
Dec 13, 2017 10:16 AM - Geof: they use (in my opinion) much better electronics and the such. If you try to convert your going to lose those benefits. Aluminum extrusion UM builds are cheap
Dec 13, 2017 10:17 AM - JeffTheMess: looking for a really cheap printer for next year https://www.geeetech.com/geeetech-wood-duplicator-5-diy-dual-extruder-3d-printer-p-1016.html
Dec 13, 2017 10:17 AM - JeffTheMess: or a build
Dec 13, 2017 10:24 AM - Geof: lol not me. enough machines, trying to make room to get some off the floors
Dec 13, 2017 10:38 AM - JeffTheMess: you can always donate them to The Mess foundation helping other clean up theirs lol jk
Dec 13, 2017 10:40 AM - Geof: LOL Nah they all run in the farm, just dont have an organized home (yet) for all of them.
Dec 13, 2017 10:43 AM - JeffTheMess: do you know if JB ever shared his dual gear drive?
Dec 13, 2017 10:43 AM - Geof: not that I'm aware
Dec 13, 2017 10:43 AM - JeffTheMess: I haven't done any modes to my printer since I bought it and she is slowly down a bit want to give her some extra life
Dec 13, 2017 10:46 AM - Geof: titan or a bondtech work great. I still use the greg wade on 3 of the 4 Robos
Dec 13, 2017 10:46 AM - WheresWaldo: Nothing shabby about Greg's Wade.
Dec 13, 2017 10:47 AM - Geof: not at all. They are a forgiving beast.
Dec 13, 2017 11:03 AM - JeffTheMess: I think its my heating element on I can't have my parts fans running past 35% with having issues with heating
Dec 13, 2017 11:11 AM - Geof: ah yep that happens. Swap it with a new one or bump up to a 40 watt
Dec 13, 2017 11:12 AM - JeffTheMess: ooohhhh 40 watt, can the R1 handle that?
Dec 13, 2017 11:13 AM - WheresWaldo: Yes, you have 5A total for the extruder and a 40W element uses 3.3A
Dec 13, 2017 11:17 AM - Geof: handles it just fine
Dec 13, 2017 11:17 AM - Geof: I think all mine have been replaced with 40s at this point. The 30s just seem to want to die quickly.
Dec 13, 2017 11:21 AM - WheresWaldo: I think I bought a 5 pack from Amazon.
Dec 13, 2017 11:32 AM - Geof: I buy the 10 pk I think. I bought 2 sets and most are still sitting on the shelf
Dec 13, 2017 11:42 AM - JeffTheMess: nice I should upgrade then
Dec 13, 2017 11:45 AM - JeffTheMess: I assume any of these would work right same size as the e3d
Dec 13, 2017 11:56 AM - WheresWaldo: yep, just don't go over 40W
Dec 13, 2017 12:11 PM - JeffTheMess: yeah 40W is good enough
Dec 13, 2017 6:54 PM - daniel871: Can you spot all of the hilariously stupid things said in this article? https://www.digitaltrends.com/3d-printer-reviews/monoprice-mini-delta-review/

 

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Dec 14, 2017 6:47 AM - WheresWaldo: What is the point?
Dec 14, 2017 6:55 AM - daniel871:
Dec 14, 2017 6:59 AM - WheresWaldo: So you're bored at work, that's what I got.
Dec 14, 2017 7:03 AM - Geof: LOL
Dec 14, 2017 7:03 AM - Geof: isn't everyone
Dec 14, 2017 7:03 AM - WheresWaldo: I am preparing for my pre-procedure appointment, so not bored here.
Dec 14, 2017 7:38 AM - WheresWaldo: I am still looking for a reason to load TPU in my printer.
Dec 14, 2017 7:49 AM - Kilrah: Made this flexible thingy the other day to prevent me from pressing the phone's power button when using it with my Mavic...
Dec 14, 2017 7:49 AM - Kilrah:
Dec 14, 2017 8:15 AM - JeffTheMess: https://imgur.com/a/Wx1Mq
Dec 14, 2017 8:15 AM - JeffTheMess: my "phone" printer
Dec 14, 2017 8:20 AM - JeffTheMess:
Dec 14, 2017 8:56 AM - JeffTheMess: https://www.fcc.gov/general/live
Dec 14, 2017 10:11 AM - daniel871: http://theweek.com/articles/743113/net-neutrality-dead-heres-what-that-means
Dec 14, 2017 10:23 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah, I was just watching
Dec 14, 2017 10:24 AM - JeffTheMess: that was a quick article
Dec 14, 2017 10:27 AM - WheresWaldo: Don't worry about net neutrality just yet, the next "F*/-+&% Moron" that gets elected will just reverse it all anyway.
Dec 14, 2017 10:30 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah, I hope so, I won't raise hell unless they stop me from printing from work lol
Dec 14, 2017 10:36 AM - JeffTheMess: Hey WW, you have a dlp printer right?
Dec 14, 2017 4:01 PM - WheresWaldo: Yes so does Geof.
Dec 14, 2017 5:09 PM - Geof: No dlp anymore
Dec 14, 2017 5:46 PM - JamesLogan: hay is there any dual extruder future for my R2?
Dec 14, 2017 5:46 PM - JamesLogan: hey
Dec 14, 2017 5:46 PM - JamesLogan: hay is for horses
Dec 14, 2017 6:33 PM - danzca6: If you are ok paying shipping, https://printrbot.com/shop/filament-grab-bag-box/

 

Dec 15, 2017 11:37 AM - Geof: JamesLogan- yes
Dec 15, 2017 7:27 PM - danzca6: Marlin 1.1.7 is released.. Few updates.... They sure are cranking out revisions these days

 

Dec 15, 2017 8:53 PM - WheresWaldo: Danz, I can't get to it until Wednesday, I will be indisposed until then.
Dec 16, 2017 2:37 AM - Kilrah: hmm was wondering why my R2 was doing strange movements... guess typoing an extra 0 in 6000mm/min speed can do that
Dec 16, 2017 5:28 AM - danzca6: WW I'm already working on it for the R1/R1+
Dec 16, 2017 6:13 AM - WheresWaldo: Cool, I am having minor surgery Monday requiring an overnight hospital stay so I can only work on the R2 version.
Dec 16, 2017 6:33 AM - danzca6: Good luck on your surgery WW
Dec 16, 2017 6:33 AM - danzca6: There are a couple new things in 1.1.7 I want to try like SKEW_CORRECTION
Dec 16, 2017 6:33 AM - danzca6: Hopefully I can play with that this weekend and see how well it works
Dec 16, 2017 6:34 AM - WheresWaldo: I am already looking at some of the new stuff. 1.1.7 looks good so far.
Dec 16, 2017 6:34 AM - WheresWaldo: I am about ready to compile and upload to the R2.
Dec 16, 2017 6:36 AM - WheresWaldo: I didn't bother adding the robo G35 nonsense (home and reprobe Z_Offset). Robo needs to spend less time butchering Marlin and more time fixing and extending roboLCD.
Dec 16, 2017 6:42 AM - WheresWaldo: Danz, did you see you can now touch as many times as you want on the auto-leveling and average. Default is set to two and it reads the second probe. If you set 3 or more it will average the probes from 2 to your limit.
Dec 16, 2017 6:43 AM - WheresWaldo: They moved filamant out to Configuration_adv
Dec 16, 2017 6:44 AM - WheresWaldo: You can do G26 grid validation now in MESH, was UBL only before
Dec 16, 2017 7:57 AM - danzca6: Yep saw those. Very cool changes. Out with the wife now, but hope to play more tonight.... With the firmeware....hahaha
Dec 16, 2017 12:19 PM - Kilrah: can't wait to try that palette
Dec 16, 2017 12:27 PM - WheresWaldo: I would love to hear your thoughts on it, when you have a good handle on it.
Dec 16, 2017 4:59 PM - danzca6: I don't have an R1+ that uses 2 stepper drivers for Z, but has anyone tried enabling Z_DUAL_STEPPER_DRIVERS in Marlin with an R1+ to see if it helps?
Dec 16, 2017 5:12 PM - danzca6: WW have you tried LIN_ADVANCE
Dec 16, 2017 5:22 PM - jbigler1986: Hey you smart ones
Dec 16, 2017 5:26 PM - jbigler1986: Anyone have a suggestion to stabilize the y axis more? I have noticed when the bed is extended to the front or back that there is more wiggle room to the left and right than I would like. What do you think about a long printed igus style bearing that would be incorporated into the y axis smooth rod holders
Dec 16, 2017 5:29 PM - jbigler1986: Or just print some more y axis pillow blocks that extend the full length of the y axis
Dec 16, 2017 7:18 PM - WheresWaldo: If you use S3D you don't need LIN_ADVANCE, Robo keeps enabling and siabling it in their firmware, I wish they would just stop. LIN_ADVANCE means shutting off all the coasting and extra startup and other features of S3D and rely on the hardware/firmware to do all of that.
Dec 16, 2017 7:19 PM - WheresWaldo: JB, if you don't get the blocks aligned perfectly right then you will bind. Besides it only prints in between the pillow blocks so the end movement is of little consequence.

 

Dec 17, 2017 4:37 AM - jbigler1986: Well I want to fix the wobble it does. It's annoying me
Dec 17, 2017 4:56 AM - danzca6: WW download 1.1.7 again. They just reported that there was a glitch in the first package on GitHub
Dec 17, 2017 5:25 AM - danzca6: JB mine has minor movement left and right at full extent, but it also has some up and down play. As long as the area under the X carriage is solid, I call it good
Dec 17, 2017 7:16 AM - WheresWaldo: Good to know, I am fighting G26 right now.
Dec 17, 2017 7:41 AM - WheresWaldo: The update to 1.1.7 only reverts the adaptation of Prusa Jerk code. It tends to slam the stepper movement shut instead of decelerating.

 

Dec 18, 2017 4:39 AM - JeffTheMess: morning roboneers
Dec 18, 2017 4:40 AM - JeffTheMess:
Dec 18, 2017 4:41 AM - JeffTheMess: First cure Ive done on the dlp, with uv glue before I went and bought some resin
Dec 18, 2017 5:11 AM - jim3Dbot: Chk-out this filament......Where's the Layers.......0.5mm nozzle
Dec 18, 2017 5:11 AM - jim3Dbot:
Dec 18, 2017 5:21 AM - JeffTheMess: pretty sweet
Dec 18, 2017 6:27 AM - Kilrah: well there are no layers becasue there's no surface smoothness lol
Dec 18, 2017 6:27 AM - Kilrah: pretty nice
Dec 18, 2017 7:56 AM - jim3Dbot: Expensive, 'bout $40 for 500gm.......texture interesting although
Dec 18, 2017 8:16 AM - JeffTheMess: wow

 

Dec 19, 2017 at 6:24 AM - JeffTheMess: morning roboneers
Dec 19, 2017 at 7:19 AM - JeffTheMess: weird http://ustepper.com/shop/home/25-3d-shield.html
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:00 AM - danzca6: interesting...I don't get the advantage
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:01 AM - danzca6: you still have to run cable and it's clunkier than normal stepper driver cabling
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:02 AM - danzca6: plus now you have something on your stepper that you may have to cool (potentially) over just having a fan over the stepper drivers on the RAMPS.
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:03 AM - Geof: Morning gents
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:04 AM - danzca6: morning Geof
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:04 AM - danzca6: one more print to take care of tonight and then I can update to 1.1.7 and try out all the new features
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:06 AM - danzca6: did you get new glass today?
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:07 AM - Geof: not yet. Waiting on the glass company to call back. Those were two new panes lol.
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:07 AM - Geof: 80C and shattered. Guessing its how they are cutting the glass they are making microfractures on the side and the thermal shock pop!
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:07 AM - Geof: blue tape to get the job done
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:07 AM - Geof: its Colorfabb XT and the bottom surface gets turned flat so meh lol.
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:07 AM - Geof: Likely going to buy some PEI sheets from Printed Solid for the Robos
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:08 AM - Geof: just be done with it lol I need them to run not have to chase glass around town
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:09 AM - danzca6: cut out some aluminum
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:09 AM - danzca6: I know Matt was talking about having sheets for the Robos around Black Friday
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:10 AM - Geof: yep I just messaged him yesterday and he said he would add them.
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:10 AM - Geof: just finished up and test printing the promethius upgrade for the R2
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:11 AM - danzca6: I see he has 15% off right now
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:11 AM - danzca6: just the hotend or are you doing the whole dual material system
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:12 AM - Geof: just the hotend. There is no good way to mount the 2nd bowden motor
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:12 AM - Geof: they have space for one bowden (for their dual extrusion) but not 2 lol
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:15 AM - Geof: I hate hexagon. It wouldnt run xt lol. It is outa there!
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:28 AM - danzca6: hahaha
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:29 AM - danzca6: I have XT but haven't tried running it yet
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:29 AM - Geof: If you want it super shiny around 250-260 C on the R1+ with fans at 30%. no faster than 30-40mm/s
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:29 AM - Geof: comes out super super shiny (and of course because the higher temp its much stronger part)
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:33 AM - danzca6: nice
Dec 19, 2017 at 9:34 AM - Geof: yessir. I like XT almost as much as I like PC
Dec 19, 2017 at 7:47 PM - OutsourcedGuru: @Geof I've designed a pass-through mount on the back of the C2 which should work fine for one of the mounting holes on the R2. It then presents a great mount-point for the bowden stepper, as located just under the dual-runout block.
Dec 19, 2017 at 7:49 PM - OutsourcedGuru: (It re-purposes the now-unused filament spool holder hole.)