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Trouble with M8 Threaded Rod Upgrade - Z Axis Locking Up

Discussion in 'Mods and Upgrades' started by Mike Giraud, Jul 12, 2015.

  1. Mike Giraud

    Mike Giraud New Member

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    First post. I've learned so much from this forum, so I'm hoping that you guys can help me. I have an original Kickstarter printer. This weekend I upgraded to M8 threaded rods, and a E3D v6. No issues installing the new hardware. I updated the firmware using Mike Kelly's files for my type of printer with no issues (z-step change to 2560, max temp increase, thermistor change to 5, etc.). However, my z-axis locks up and makes a grinding noise when Auto Home is selected on the XXL LCD. I can manually move the axis using the XXL LCD with no issues. The new M8 threaded rods are well lubed with 3-in-1 oil, and work perfectly when manually controlled with the XXL LCD. I can manually move the Z-axis through its full range with no issues, but when Auto-Home or a print is started, it immediately locks up and makes that awful noise.

    In my troubleshooting, I find that if I re-flash the 2560 steps per mm, back to 2267.72 (I know this is for 5/16 rod, but just troubleshooting), the Z-axis works perfectly again. Am I missing a second line in the firmware that needs updating for the M8? I'm only updating the one line in Configuration.h #define DEFAULT_AXIS_STEPS_PER_UNIT {80,80,2560,723.38}. Is there another place that needs the 2560 value?
    Anyone else experience the z-axis binding when moving to the M8 threaded rod?
     
  2. Mike Kelly

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    Mike, thanks for the fast response. I had this thought, but dismissed it since the Z-axis works perfectly when using the manual axis moves via the XXL controller. If the Z-stepper driver performs perfectly on a manual move, it should be providing enough current for automatic moves as well. Is my logic correct, or would something in the firmware call for a lower stepper driver duty cycle during the automatic versus manual moves? I hate to bump up the pot if its not needed. I'm willing to try it if its my only option.

    Raider Power (BSME '99).
     
  4. Mike Kelly

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    I got that as well while trying to capture my Z threaded rods. It would work during manual controls but while printing it would get stuck.

    I think it has to do with microstepping resulting in less torque, so for the fine layer movements it's not getting enough to overcome the stiction.

    Measure the V_ref before tuning the pot. If it doesn't work you can always go back to the old value.

    Also just to be verify the threaded rods have been lubricated?



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  5. Mike Giraud

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    Mike, you nailed it. Adjusting the Z stepper pot did the trick. It only took a very slight adjustment to do it. I've run about 20 Auto Home's to verify. Looks like I'm good to go. Thanks for the help.
     
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