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  1. Geof

    Geof Volunteer Moderator
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    And we all know what it should look like and that helps :)
     
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    OK...Here we go. Settings first. Let me know if I am crazy and then I will print that thing.
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    https://goo.gl/photos/kdqLfeJhw7NiZaT98
    https://goo.gl/photos/6tDfCx2rKYoV5AYZ6
    https://goo.gl/photos/9DkNCkcDvRFANj8F6
    https://goo.gl/photos/SsSM8rQkdpWh5Nd28
    https://goo.gl/photos/QYpTPLueVfVbV2xX7
    https://goo.gl/photos/zRschU6AbuMTFSGY9

    Completely ripped one section off and stuck it to the other. looked great until the Z decided it was lower than it was supposed to be and mashed everything...so I stopped the print. My switch might be going bad. Could that be causing all these problems? I don't know anymore.

    After Switch temporary fix:
    https://goo.gl/photos/1HDEoRAumNstQFjN8
    https://goo.gl/photos/WEMLQ71yZq98qroo7
    https://goo.gl/photos/9oq4srASqTRUwjFh8

    Printed perfect until it had to start jumping from location to location. Still ripped off the one protrusion and put it on the other. I guess I am s.o.l. until I get the new switches in. I will try again.
     
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    That 2nd round was looking darn good, I have a few switches. Pm a mail to address and I'll ship you a switch if you want.
     
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    I just ordered a few switches! Lol. Slow boat. Feb 10th....at the latest. I really do hope all this headache was for bad/old switches.

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    ok, if you'd perfer to not wait I can ship you some switches I have extra laying around.(probably 3 days from Illinois to Kentucky)
     
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    Are you sure? Can you charge me on PayPal or something?

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    Im sure :) no worries just return the love when you can help someone in need
     
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    I printed the Deprime Test. Thanks for Geof my Z is stable on the first layer! It got to the top and it started creating craters in the print at all 4 locations where there should be height build up. My layer height is .28, infill 50%, overlap 0.18., it slows down if printing is faster than 40 seconds and can slow down to 10 mm/s. Just basic stuff. I hope this helps.
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    I just printed it again. This time when it got to the below. At the extruded sections it started printing way above the print for about 2 layers and then started smashing it. Ideas? 16129391_10210900108511485_1154158566_o.jpg
     
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    Ok so to sum up.... This is an r1 with leadscrew upgrade?

    1.Did you install the r1+ firmware after the leadscrew install?(I'm assuming upgrade kit from robo?)
    2.Are you using pla?
    3.Oiler on the pla?
    4.Fan running on the bottom right front corner at all times?

    Not a matter control user but I wonder if it's a matter control issue ? Have you used a different slicer?
     
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    Yea that would explain the problem right.... there. :)
     
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    I thought I did. Mine isn't a plus version. I installed the lead screws and I thought I installed the firmware.

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    The lead screw upgrade from robo on a r1 makes it r1+ firmware otherwise your z steps will be wacky. I'd reflash with r1+ firmware (if it's the official kit) and test again :)
     
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    Use V2?

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    when you installed the leadscrew update you magically transformed your R1 into an R1+ so you need to use the R1+ firmware.


    ok, not totally an R1+ but effectively an R1+ :) same firmware
     
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    Flashed ROBO3DR1PLUSV2 and printing. I didn't update anything. Basic version used.
     
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    Awesome make sure to flash eeprom if you've stored anything in there and include pictures please
     
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    OK...so I noticed something. It lifts between the extrusions but it doesn't always travel back down. This leaves it printing several layers higher than where it is supposed to be. Then at some point it realizes that it is too high and travels to the surface...if there is nothing to land on then it goes clear to the first solid layer and craters everything or rips it off and where ever it ripped off piece lands it sticks. Then it goes on it's merry way.
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    Try removing the z lift in your retraction settings. I think I'm following what your saying. Is it possible to get a video?
     
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