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  1. Gomo2017

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    Using Matter Control, I can't get the first layer on any of my parts to print close to the print platform. The gap is about 1mm. What settings do I adjust to close this gap?
     
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    If yiy
    go into options there will be a macros. That says .8 .9 1 1.1. Click .9 then print
     
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    I found "Macro"s under "Settings", clicked on .9, it didn't seem to do anything. Then I and ran the print program but it still is too far from the print platform.
     
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    This is a terrible way of doing this. Stop that :D

    Most would suggest that @Gomo2017 add the M565 Z-1.0; command into the start up script between the G28 and G29.

    In mattercontrol somewhere there will be a start up script

    G28; home all axis
    M565 Z-1.0; set the offest for autolevel
    G29; run autolevel

    What you will want to do is adjust the M565 Z-1.0 ; after each print until you are happy with the first layer. (-.9 is closer than 1.0). Your number will be specific to each machine.
     
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    The reason i told him to do that was becusse it’s easier for people to understand and tweak. And why do you think that’s a terrible way of doing it. If it is in the software shouldn’t it be used
     
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    If the slicer does not use M565 it is not affecting the Z offset for the autoleveling calculations.
     
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    MatterControl is not specific or tailored to Robo printers and firmware.
     
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    If you don't use M565 you are setting a global Axis offset that is applied to the slicer calcs for all of the Z on all of the bed.
    With the M565 it is applied to the autoleveling calculations of the level PLANE.

    This is not the same result (math, its what a slicer does for dinner)
     
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    new versions of marlin (not what Robo provides stock) have more advanced autoleveling routines that do not use M565.
     
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    Oh ok that makes sense why did they add that option in MC
     
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    Oh because it’s not made just for robo
     
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    Not at all. In fact Robo is in no way related to or associated with the folks who write that software.
    :)
     
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    So they just highly recommend it?
     
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    No its free so it comes with the R1 units. Likely due to a deal with matterhackers waaaay back when they needed to find a slicer to use with it thats easy for new comers to SLICE and PRINT the model. Nothing else.

    New Robos come with Cura (R2/C2)
     
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    I wouldn't say they highly recommend it. They point it out as a free slicer for folks to start out with on the R1+, but the newer machines they have switched to suggesting Cura as @Geof points out.

    IMHO the best bet for all of them is to actually buy Simplify3D :)
     
    #15 mark tomlinson, Jul 27, 2017

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