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Finally found a thermally conductive, conductive insulating adhesive for E3D hotend

Discussion in 'Mods and Upgrades' started by SoLongSidekick, Apr 9, 2014.

  1. SoLongSidekick

    SoLongSidekick Active Member

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    So I just used kapton to secure my thermistor to my E3D v5 hotend because every single adhesive I could find under "fire cement" or "muffler putty" was either thermally insulating (would insulate thermistor, giving false low readings) or electrically conductive (obviously bad). I must have called 20 companies and checked 50+ MSDS sheets. In retrospect, I should have called 3M way earlier but whatever. I finally found the perfect compound for securing thermistors. It is expensive as hell (~$70) but I was able to convince someone into sending me a sample tube. As I will not be using all of it I have no problem sending the tube to anyone else who wants to use it when I am done. Here is the Mouser page: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...810-37ML/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsQhHk0pdFgpuzChyZ3tIjZ.

    Before using the stuff I am going to be comparing what the thermisor reads and the outside temp of the heater block with my kapton setup, and would love it a few people using different brands of "fire cement" would do the same so we could compare all different methods (including this new 3M stuff) and see how much of a difference the varying setups make. That would be very interesting and useful for future users.
     
  2. tesseract

    tesseract Moderator
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    I am interested in it as well I have multiple to set up so a nice working product would be nice to have
     
  3. JohnStack

    JohnStack New Member

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    Me no want fire cement. I love the screw-in. :)
     
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  4. warlocke

    warlocke Active Member

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    Might want to double check the specs on this and one of the data sheets I read on it indicated a flashpoint of 170c:

    Operating Temperature Range (Celsius) Long Term (Weeks-Months) 80 to 100 Degree C
    Operating Temperature Range (Celsius) Short Term
    (Hours-Days) 125 to 140 Degree C
     
  5. SoLongSidekick

    SoLongSidekick Active Member

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    Yeah I saw that but it contradicts other information listed. Have a call in to 3M as we speak.
     
  6. CAMBO3D

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    I wouldn't advise to use this. due to the nature of the thermistor. leads can break very easily.

    Once you have the compound in there. Your gonna have a fun time trying to get the old thermistor out. That stuff is an epoxy compound..
    http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediaw...82B4Y_1evUqe17zHvTSevTSeSSSSSS--&fn=00443.pdf
     
  7. tesseract

    tesseract Moderator
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    already have parts on order to rebuild all my hotends and have a few extra so i can give both a shot
     

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