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Answered Hotend Leaking [Dirty Prints - Blemishes]

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  1. ssshake

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    I don't quite know whats going on here but sometimes when I print I get random brown spots. This just started recently but happens regularly. This star for example I printed the first one in white and it turned out great. Since then I can't seem to get a long print to finish without blemishes. Short prints I seem to be able to get away with. It's a numbers game I guess.

    When this happens its not discolouring the normal line that it is printing, its more like some excess PLA falls off the side as I witness just little balls/dots hanging off the edge of walls, stuff like that.

    I think this might be specific to a particular bran of PLA as I can repro it with white and grey of one brand but hadn't seen it in a light blue print I did last night of another brand.

    I'm not sure where to start here.

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    Pay no mind to the large round brown spot thats just from the print head sitting there when I stopped the print.
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  2. Ziggy

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    I have seen this happen:

    If the nozzle is not completely clean before the prints starts. The baked on plastic goes brown and drops off (or is knocked off) into the print.

    If the first layer is too low or the flow rate of plastic is too high, the nozzle will plough through the excess plastic some of which then sticks to the nozzle, goes brown and drops into the print. Sometimes globs of excess plastic are left on the print and are picked up later and stick to the nozzle.

    White PLA (and ABS) really shows up these discolorations of course.

    Adjusting the first layer height and the extruder flow rate will usually solve the problem. I also keep a set of long pointed tweezers handy during the first few layers so I can pick off any stray globs before they do any damage.
     
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  3. SteveC

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    To remove the excess burnt plastic you can also carefully (quickly) wipe off the hot nozzle with a cotton cloth.
     
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    I like a brass bristle brush for cleaning the nozzle.
     
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    I heat the extruder 190-220 and wipe the outside of my extruder head with a cloth all around the metal head. Sometimes if you have a bit of gunk on the head, take an exacto knife and scrap it off.
     
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    I use steel wool.

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  7. ssshake

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    It turns out it's much worse than just a dirty end :(

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    Hard to tell from the pics. Is the hot end leaking plastic?
     
  9. ssshake

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    Yes thats what appears to be happening.
     
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    Ziggy Moderator
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    The hotend is one of the kickstarter j-heads - correct?
     
  11. ssshake

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    this is post kickstarter. I got this over the summer.

    This is pretty frustrating because now that I see the issue I realize it's been doing this ever since I got it, but now the unit is out of warranty. I don't understand such a limited 6 month warranty when there's a steep learning curve for the end user (me) and when they pump out such a high defect rate in the companies early stages. Which is understandable but while they're ironing out kinks it would be nice to have a longer warranty and not screw the consumer :(
     
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    Could you see what was causing the leak in the "before" photo?
     
  14. ssshake

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    I don't understand what you mean
     
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    I thought in the second photo you had cleaned off all the oozing plastic. So you could have seen what was causing the leak before.
     
  16. ssshake

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    no although it does look that way, the only difference between both photos is I turned the flash on in the one where you can see the plastic.
     
  17. Ziggy

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    It looks like the leak is between the heat block and the body. May be possible to take out the extruder, heat it up and tighten up the block in the extruder body.
     
  18. ssshake

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    For for I heated it up and tried to tighen it with a pair of pliers. The heat block wasn't screwed in tight, I expected some resistance, but it turned rather effortlessly. it only starts to tighten up one its almost 45 degrees further than it's supposed to be (expecting the rectangular heat block to be perpendicular to the x axis.
     
  19. ssshake

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    It's no longer at a right angle :(
     

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    You can straighten it up by removing the two fixing screws on the x carriage, rotating the body to square it up, then put the two fixing screws back.
     
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