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Answered Printer motors and heating are malfunctioning

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  1. mclemens7

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    So a couple months ago my board (robo ramps) blew and I had too much stuff going on to fix it. Now I took on the challenge to fix it. I got a ramps 1.4 board. The firmware works and everything. But the X axis and one Z motor arnt moving. The Hotend is heating really slowly as well but it’s a 40W heating element. I have check the wires. Also the printer thinks 0 for the Y is in the middle of the bed.
     
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    Update: I fixed the Z and the end stops. But still having trouble with slow heating and x not working.
     
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    What are the exact symptoms? No one here can divine the problem when all it says is X isn't working? Please elaborate and include all details no matter how minor and what you have done to resolve the issues so we can give you a better chance at resolving them.
     
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    Ok the X does not move. If I
    try to make it go + or - it sits there and isn’t even locked if I try to move the carriage. What I have don’t to see if it would work (which it didn’t) I checked the wires the wires seemed fine. The next issue is the heating. I do not know why it doesn’t heat up quick like before. But the wires seem fine which means they arnt damaged
     
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    X is either a stepper motor, a stepper driver or the RAMPS (or wiring between any of those). Nothing magic.
     
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    Slow heating may be a weak power supply rail. It may read 12V with no load but when you put a load on it it may not be able to deliver the up to 11 AMPS the RAMPS board can allow for the heated bed. It could be an improperly defined thermistor comparing its resistance to the wrong look up table. Too many variables.
     
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    As a test disconnect the connection directly on the X stepper and move it to another stepper (Y would work) and then fire everything up and try to move the X (which would really move the Y in my example). If the Y motor steps then you have solved that issue -- it must be a bad stepper. If the Y motor does not step then work you way up the list.
     
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    I did that and he motor works. So
    like I said the wire is good. Could it be the driver or the board?
     
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    There is a stepper driver on the RAMPS, yes ... that could be bad. Or the RAMPS itself could be bad. I would suspect the stepper driver first. Swap stepper drivers from one axis to another (take the Y driver card and move it to the X and then see of the motor responds)
     
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    I wasn't suggesting you verify the wire, that test was to eliminate the stepper motor.
     
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    It probably is the driver, might need a simple adjustment or it might be a bad driver.
     
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    So the drivers arnt bad the board isn’t bad the fricken wire is bad. But there is no visual problems. That’s the only thing left.
     
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    "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." - Arthur Conan Doyle
     
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    If he actually took the output from that driver and drove another stepper (on say the Y axis) then that is less likely.
    Still a valid check, but less likely to be the issue. Sure, one stepper might need a bit more juice than another, but not enough difference to totally fail I wouldn't think.
     
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    You said what's left is the improbable. ;)
     
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    So the wire. I got u.
     
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    Put a new wire in, and well I used it and there is no power running through. Any ideas at all
    why this would happen. I replaced the boardand the wire. What could it be!
     
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    Just to be safe, reflash the firmware. I have seen flashable memory that would not flash properly if only flashed once. This is definitely most likely not it, but it would make me feel better to know you got a good flash.
     
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    I tried again and got this error message

    pasting "DIO" and "-" does not give a valid preprocessing token

     
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