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Partially Solved Stringing or Oozing

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  1. Marco Ramirez

    Marco Ramirez New Member

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    hi friend my printer robo r1 plus started with a new problem , Stringing or Oozing , Stringing (otherwise known as oozing, whiskers, or “hairy” prints) , how can i fix it ?
    Yesterday when I changed the filament jam the previous color, fix the problem, but now I'm noticing that I have this problem Stringing or Oozing.
    Usually this problem Stringing or Oozing happened but not so much I think it increased,

    I hope you can help me master
     
  2. Rigmarol

    Rigmarol Well-Known Member

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    What you describe can be a few things.
    First are you describing what your print looks like or a condition your nozzle looks like?

    I am assuming the print or model is coming out with stringing.
    Share what your temperature settings are and I'll bet you are running about 210C with PLA. If I am correct then adjust your nozzle temp to somewhere around 190-195 and see if the stringing is still there.

    If I have assumed incorrectly, give some more info and we'll see what we can do to help.
     
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    PLA or ABS?
    Neither. Use one of the other DOZEN filament types and then decide which is better for you :)

    P.S. Yes with PLA stringing is normally printing too hot.
     
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    ok im usaed 210c im gone change for 190c and see what happend . TKS
     
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    Poll cannot be answered since it is asking a nonsensical question. But ABS is one of the worst to print with. It was never designed to be an extrusion and has properties better suited to injection molding. People still use it and since it is the LEGO plastic they think everything should be in ABS. There are so many other filament chemistry's now that far exceed some or all of the properties of ABS.

    @mark tomlinson is right about PLA being too hot and stringing. Most filaments behave the same way except PETG where stringing usually indicates extruding too cold.
     
  6. Marco Ramirez

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    im used a 190c and see other error , ERROR ECHO COLD EXTRUSION PREVENTED , just said that dont stop the printing , but said that on laptop screen.
     
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    im put faster the retraction extrusión of 30% to 50% , nothing happend . still with Stringing or Oozing problem , but the new error (ERROR ECHO COLD EXTRUSION PREVENTED ,) freak me out.
     
  8. Rigmarol

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    I get that notification all the time.
    I think it simply means a Cold Extrusion was prevented.
    Prevented is good.

    If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will jump in.
     
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    It is generated when the firmware thinks your extruder is too cold.
    There was at least one version of the R1 firmware where this number was set to a really silly temperature of (IIRC) 185 to 190c
    As long as it kept printing you are fine, but you might want to sanity check that you have the current firmware for your printer and I would suggest you start with being very certain you know exactly which model you have.
     
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  10. Marco Ramirez

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    im up of 190c to 195c, I put the temperature up a bit, I'll try later
     
  11. Marco Ramirez

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    tks ,, i have the R1+ but i dont now the firmware ? im gone see later
     
  12. Rigmarol

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    Last year I took my printer (R1+) in to the Robo shop in San Diego and they checked my firmware to be sure I had NOT loaded the latest version. They told me then the version before the latest was better. I've since heard the same said here.

    Now, that was a year ago so I'm not sure there is anything newer.
     
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    Only for the C2 :)
     
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    im not up date mine , so its defaut of Factory , im buy mine 6 months ago. im gone check later . tks
     
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    @Rigmarol the only better firmware for the R1 Beta | R1 | R1+PLUS is the Marlin 1.1.0 that I posted in the mods sub-forum. It has so many things fixed that that did not work as expected in the firmware originally provided by Robo (not the fault of Robo but rather Marlin 1.0.0 upon which it was based on). Robo has never released a version of the firmware for the R1 Beta | R1 | R1+PLUS that is newer than Marlin 1.0.0 regardless what they call it.

    The only real issue (really a non-issue) you will have moving from Robo (Marlin 1.0.0) firmware to the Marlin 1.1.0 firmware properly configured for the Robo is that you will likely need to tweak some of your slicer profiles to correct workarounds done using Robo's original configuration.

    Don't take my word for this, just ask anyone currently using the community supplied Marlin 1.1.0 firmware.
     
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    And that branch @WheresWaldo maintains is slightly ahead of the C2* in terms of features/functionality.



    *it is fine for the R series, I would not suggest use on the C2 since there are a few minor tweaks in the C2 version that are specific to it.
     
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    @WheresWaldo , I'm going to try your stuff one day. But everything has been working well so I've just been printing my brains out. Thanks for doing all that work.
     
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    Without owning a C2/R2 I cannot just guess what Robo has done with Marlin firmware. If I ever decide to move from my R1 to another Robo 3D printer then I would probably make sure it was current with Marlin development.

    @Rigmarol You did ask if there was anything newer.
    @mark tomlinson The tweaks to the C2 firmware are minor in my cursory investigation, but I can't test anything so I won't be playing with the firmware for it.
     
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    Until they decide to check back in their changes it would be a major pain. Someone would need to diff/merge their stuff back into the current branch ... ugh. Not even worth doing until post-R2 release in case there is anything else that needs changing. I can't see much future in the maintenance of their custom stuff anyway, the users will likely want to go into mainstream Marlin by the production label at any rate. I may well jump in and help out with that merge once they are totally stable.
     
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  20. Marco Ramirez

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    you said the Marlin 1.1.0 firmware. its better ?
     

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