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Unresolved leveling help

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  1. fredm

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    I noticed after the 9 point be leveling those little blobs are almost non existant, in some places it didnt look like there were any.

    I tried printing something with a large square shape.
    I noticed the first layer in one corners of the square it is not as thick.

    how do I address this or is this nothing to be concerned about.
     
  2. Geof

    Geof Volunteer Moderator
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    I cant picture what you mean. Share some photos ?
     
  3. fredm

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    I went ahead and printed,. check out th epic.
    how do I fix this?

    I also notice the second layer in some areas isnt smooth, it almost wavy?
     

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  4. fredm

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    that single line that goes around the whole project. in that pics it appears not to be in the coner closest to you. but its there just a really thin layer.
    I went ahead and printed anyway and the whole corner didnt print out at all
     
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    Can you share some photos of your z switches ? Have you done a paper level to square the x and y?
     
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    The two switches for the Z axis must be both positioned correctly and as close to the same on both sides as possible.
    Pictures of them will help as @Geof requested.
     
  7. fredm

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    I think these are correct.
    so far my prints have been working. but since this covered the most area on the print bed so far. I thought it odd that one corner was getting less.
    I do not know how I would raise one corner of the bed.
    I have seen others rotate the threaded rods to achieve level. but this is more of a tilt.
     

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  8. fredm

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    here is the finished project. The part that didn't print wasnt essential and would be trimmed away. I Didn't know that at the beginning of the print.
     

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    Ok so your printing with a brim. If everything is level the brim will be there.
     
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    I have been depending on the auto level.
    where con i find instructions on how to level using matter control
     
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    since as you point out the brim should have been there, but wasnt
     
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    The switches look good. So if do a paper level. What you do is bring the nozzle to the bed u til a piece of paper just fits under the left side(you can feel the nozzle drag on the paper just slightly) then power off. Slide the head to the other side and check. It should be loose or tight so to fix it youll hold the opposite side while turning the side your working on until the paper feels good. Repeat until both sides feel the same. I do it across all of the bed.
     
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    when you say bring the nozzle to the bed do you mean click "home all" and then rotate the threaded rod?
     
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    You want the nozzle away from the bed far enough to get a piece of paper under it.
     
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    Manually leveling the bed (turning the z-axis rods by hand, mentioned above) works well along the X-axis. But I think what happened here is the y-axis is imbalanced (low on front right).

    I just corrected for this on mine by shimming the low spot with a small piece of paper between the magnets (under the bed). Manually leveled it near the center (front to back) of the bed, then checked front to back. Where low, I shimmed, then repeated. Got it pretty well balanced (<0.4mm) ... next large print turned out fine.
     
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    Yep.You are going to need to resort to shims for a perfect leveling.
     
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