Shoutbox Archive

Jul 20, 2015 7:01 AM - daniel871: Also definitely not printing the old style Jynx. Can't paint it properly for the lips and hair.
Jul 20, 2015 7:10 AM - jbigler1986: hmmm. not sure what you should print
Jul 20, 2015 7:13 AM - daniel871: Mostly just want to use the remainder of the spool on something rather than having it sit around collecting dust.
Jul 20, 2015 7:14 AM - jbigler1986: I usually just toss them.
Jul 20, 2015 7:17 AM - Mike Kelly: mornin
Jul 20, 2015 7:20 AM - jbigler1986: morning
Jul 20, 2015 7:23 AM - Stephen Capistron: Print the Emmet gyroid assembly thing
Jul 20, 2015 7:25 AM - Stephen Capistron: Each gyroid ball is only a few grams and the connecting squiggles are even less
Jul 20, 2015 7:28 AM - jbigler1986: how is life SC?
Jul 20, 2015 7:29 AM - jbigler1986: any leads on jobs?
Jul 20, 2015 7:29 AM - Stephen Capistron: Pretty good
Jul 20, 2015 7:31 AM - Stephen Capistron: I got one with a bone cement startup
Jul 20, 2015 7:31 AM - Stephen Capistron: We'll see,no rush though
Jul 20, 2015 7:32 AM - jbigler1986: as long as you are enjoying life that is all that matters
Jul 20, 2015 7:44 AM - Mike Kelly: it's like christmas in july today
Jul 20, 2015 7:44 AM - Mike Kelly: getting the robotdigg order and my lead screws
Jul 20, 2015 7:46 AM - jbigler1986: sweet. i will have dual going by the end of the day. just have 4 small parts to print
Jul 20, 2015 7:47 AM - Mike Kelly: rad
Jul 20, 2015 7:47 AM - jbigler1986: question about the offset
Jul 20, 2015 7:48 AM - Mike Kelly: ok
Jul 20, 2015 7:49 AM - Mike Kelly: http://community.robo3d.com/index.php?threads/smart-led-mod-full-rgb-control-a-must-see.6285/ neat
Jul 20, 2015 7:50 AM - jbigler1986: just uncomment x and y
Jul 20, 2015 7:51 AM - jbigler1986: leave x alone. then measure distance from front nozzle to back?
Jul 20, 2015 7:51 AM - jbigler1986: then enter that in the y
Jul 20, 2015 7:52 AM - Mike Kelly: chances are good you'll need to calibrated along the X as well
Jul 20, 2015 7:52 AM - Mike Kelly: mine was like 25 and .1
Jul 20, 2015 7:53 AM - Mike Kelly: i forget the exact Y spacing, lemme check the model
Jul 20, 2015 7:54 AM - Mike Kelly: 26mm for y
Jul 20, 2015 7:54 AM - Mike Kelly: so start with 26 and 0
Jul 20, 2015 7:54 AM - Mike Kelly: print a calibration object, i like walters target
Jul 20, 2015 7:57 AM - jbigler1986: so for the x there is like (x,x) and y there is (y,y) which value should i change
Jul 20, 2015 7:59 AM - Mike Kelly: i usually just change the latter value
Jul 20, 2015 8:00 AM - Mike Kelly: hmm no that's not true
Jul 20, 2015 8:00 AM - Mike Kelly: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dynviy6aq5d1vb4/AABJJlf3hqOjDzi3ZU37rAPLa?dl=0
Jul 20, 2015 8:01 AM - Mike Kelly: so the first one is nozzle one and the second is nozzle 2
Jul 20, 2015 8:01 AM - Mike Kelly: so in that firmware above i have it as X (0,.1) meaning that the 2nd nozzle is .1mm offset from the 0 point of nozzle 1
Jul 20, 2015 8:02 AM - Mike Kelly: Y is (25.4, 0) meaning the first nozzle is 25.4mm past nozzle 2
Jul 20, 2015 8:02 AM - Mike Kelly: you could achieve the sanme thing with Y (0,-25.4)
Jul 20, 2015 8:03 AM - jbigler1986: ok. so the first number in () is extruder 0 and the 2nd one is extruder 2. Gotcha
Jul 20, 2015 8:04 AM - donhuevo: did I miss anything?
Jul 20, 2015 8:04 AM - jbigler1986: nope. just learning what to edit in the firmware for the offset
Jul 20, 2015 8:04 AM - Mike Glass: Just me
Jul 20, 2015 8:05 AM - Mike Glass: morning
Jul 20, 2015 8:05 AM - donhuevo: yep
Jul 20, 2015 8:05 AM - donhuevo: morning
Jul 20, 2015 8:05 AM - jbigler1986: u should arrive with a carriage picture
Jul 20, 2015 8:06 AM - donhuevo:
Jul 20, 2015 8:06 AM - donhuevo: carriage picture
Jul 20, 2015 8:06 AM - Mike Glass: sexy
Jul 20, 2015 8:06 AM - donhuevo: first time printing the carriage with S3D. I have some tweaking to do
Jul 20, 2015 8:07 AM - jbigler1986: not bad. just a few boogers
Jul 20, 2015 8:08 AM - donhuevo: I need to go through all the settings and match it with what I have in Cura now
Jul 20, 2015 8:09 AM - jbigler1986: do you change multiplier normally?
Jul 20, 2015 8:10 AM - Mike Kelly: don did you see the smart LED mod
Jul 20, 2015 8:10 AM - Mike Kelly: i prefered the blue carriage
Jul 20, 2015 8:16 AM - donhuevo: I did see that
Jul 20, 2015 8:17 AM - Mike Glass: he was spamming it here all weekend in the chat
Jul 20, 2015 8:17 AM - jbigler1986: Lol. yeah he was
Jul 20, 2015 8:18 AM - donhuevo: I was thinking last week when I was running that translucent green that wouldn't it be nice to do a little more programming so I could change the part light color via command line
Jul 20, 2015 8:18 AM - donhuevo: go from white light to 'black' light
Jul 20, 2015 8:19 AM - donhuevo: maybe he's ramping up to try and sell that to us
Jul 20, 2015 8:19 AM - daniel871: I saw the LED mod but just don't see the need for it.
Jul 20, 2015 8:19 AM - daniel871: I'm trying to get to where the printer runs whatever and I go do something else instead of sitting there watching for it to fuck up.
Jul 20, 2015 8:19 AM - daniel871: *knock on wood* been having a good run lately with PET+ other than the glass randomly chipping when I remove a print.
Jul 20, 2015 8:19 AM - donhuevo: my LED mod was mostly so I could see where it was in the heat up or cool down
Jul 20, 2015 8:20 AM - daniel871: I glance at the LCD controller for that.
Jul 20, 2015 8:20 AM - donhuevo: I disconnected my LCD and this I can see from across the room
Jul 20, 2015 8:21 AM - donhuevo:
Jul 20, 2015 8:22 AM - donhuevo: no more double-sided sticky tape for my LEDs
Jul 20, 2015 8:23 AM - Mike Glass: sweet don
Jul 20, 2015 8:24 AM - donhuevo: gracias
Jul 20, 2015 8:24 AM - daniel871: I could never depend on the USB connection to finish a print (constant little power fluctuations from somewhere), so the LCD controller is basically mandatory.
Jul 20, 2015 8:25 AM - Mike Kelly: "don't see the need for it" so things being cool is unneeded?
Jul 20, 2015 8:25 AM - Mike Glass: I have a few changes to do on the one I was working on, it started to warp half way through and noticed my rib was not touching the part and that is the stabilzer for the rear to front.
Jul 20, 2015 8:25 AM - daniel871: I'd rather have a print-able design for some lights that the Robo makes for use on something else.
Jul 20, 2015 8:26 AM - Mike Glass: also 40% infill was probably overkill
Jul 20, 2015 8:26 AM - daniel871: Like that LED flashlight that kept coming up for some kickstarter printer.
Jul 20, 2015 8:26 AM - Mike Kelly: i'm excited for the mpcnc parts to finally be here
Jul 20, 2015 8:26 AM - jbigler1986: most of the stuff i have done wasn't "needed"
Jul 20, 2015 8:26 AM - daniel871: That guy is selling them again, or you're just building the parts yourself?
Jul 20, 2015 8:27 AM - donhuevo: I liked the bloody zombie paint job he did on the case too
Jul 20, 2015 8:27 AM - Mike Kelly: heh right
Jul 20, 2015 8:27 AM - donhuevo: but I'm still not gonna buy anything he has to sell
Jul 20, 2015 8:27 AM - Mike Kelly: i figured he was using neopixels like you
Jul 20, 2015 8:28 AM - donhuevo: good chance. I asked but he never answered
Jul 20, 2015 8:28 AM - Mike Glass: Mike, Did you see the new stabilzer he added for the MPCNC?
Jul 20, 2015 8:28 AM - Mike Kelly: haha no
Jul 20, 2015 8:28 AM - Mike Kelly: a true engineer, good enough is never good enough
Jul 20, 2015 8:28 AM - Mike Glass: suppose to help the z stability
Jul 20, 2015 8:31 AM - Mike Kelly: hmm interesting
Jul 20, 2015 8:31 AM - Mike Kelly: guess i'll be printing that
Jul 20, 2015 8:33 AM - Mike Kelly: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:909118 for the dads out there
Jul 20, 2015 8:34 AM - Mike Glass: I saw one guy double up the z axis and run threaded rod between them, you loose another 8 inches though.
Jul 20, 2015 8:34 AM - Mike Kelly: which was featured... i'm out of touch
Jul 20, 2015 8:35 AM - Mike Glass: I like the knife-shaped key holder
Jul 20, 2015 8:36 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah
Jul 20, 2015 8:38 AM - daniel871: 1" conduit for the MPCNC?
Jul 20, 2015 8:39 AM - daniel871: Just noticed it's not actually noted anywhere.
Jul 20, 2015 8:39 AM - Mike Glass: 3/4 emt
Jul 20, 2015 8:39 AM - daniel871: Or I'm going blind and missed it reading through the description/instructions.

 

Jul 20, 2015 8:39 AM - Mike Glass: its in the BOM
Jul 20, 2015 8:41 AM - daniel871: I'm not seeing it.
Jul 20, 2015 8:41 AM - jbigler1986: about to go start the top pieces
Jul 20, 2015 8:41 AM - daniel871: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:724999/#instructions
Jul 20, 2015 8:42 AM - donhuevo: jb, print them all at 100%.
Jul 20, 2015 8:42 AM - daniel871: n/m, spotted them.
Jul 20, 2015 8:42 AM - donhuevo: clips and tops
Jul 20, 2015 8:42 AM - daniel871: Calling them pips with the OD size instead of conduit.
Jul 20, 2015 8:42 AM - daniel871: pipes.
Jul 20, 2015 8:43 AM - Mike Glass: Jb said he used 15% don
Jul 20, 2015 8:43 AM - donhuevo: ewwwww
Jul 20, 2015 8:44 AM - jbigler1986: not on the clips. carriage itself
Jul 20, 2015 8:44 AM - Mike Glass: what did you do your carriage at don
Jul 20, 2015 8:44 AM - donhuevo: that's ok. this last one I think I did 25
Jul 20, 2015 8:44 AM - donhuevo: but I think my shell is 2mm
Jul 20, 2015 8:44 AM - jbigler1986: threads are good though. so that's good
Jul 20, 2015 8:45 AM - donhuevo: that is good but if you have to use pliers, I'd rather it be solid
Jul 20, 2015 8:45 AM - Mike Glass: how many perimeters don
Jul 20, 2015 8:45 AM - donhuevo: 5
Jul 20, 2015 8:45 AM - jbigler1986: well that was just the initial. it loosed a little
Jul 20, 2015 8:46 AM - Mike Kelly: don are you making the mpcnc?
Jul 20, 2015 8:46 AM - Mike Glass: I did .2 for layer height
Jul 20, 2015 8:46 AM - donhuevo: those two pieces are all that's holding the hot end
Jul 20, 2015 8:46 AM - donhuevo: I have enough other shit to make
Jul 20, 2015 8:46 AM - Mike Kelly: k
Jul 20, 2015 8:46 AM - donhuevo: cnc will have to wait
Jul 20, 2015 8:47 AM - Mike Glass: boo
Jul 20, 2015 8:48 AM - donhuevo: jb is that turquoise PLA?
Jul 20, 2015 8:49 AM - jbigler1986: yeah
Jul 20, 2015 8:50 AM - donhuevo: this may be overkill but to be on the safe side, I have always used this stuff on the underside of my carriages.... http://www.amazon.com/Heatshield-Pr...pebp=1437407445707&perid=12WK375KHS2B6VKRYFMG
Jul 20, 2015 8:50 AM - jbigler1986: yeah mine i use pla and have never had an issue
Jul 20, 2015 8:51 AM - Mike Glass: Don we dont want to hear what you put on your undercarriage
Jul 20, 2015 8:51 AM - donhuevo: good point.
Jul 20, 2015 8:51 AM - Mike Glass: if it gets that hot you may have a problem..lol
Jul 20, 2015 8:53 AM - donhuevo: after hearing that PLA would deform in a car on a hot day, I got paranoid
Jul 20, 2015 9:02 AM - daniel871: To be fair, a car on a hot day can get up to 200F.
Jul 20, 2015 9:02 AM - daniel871: It's why locking kids and pets in cars has killed them.
Jul 20, 2015 9:03 AM - daniel871: Someone did an experiment where a car was left out in direct sunlight on a 90-something degree day and it got pretty ridiculous.
Jul 20, 2015 9:04 AM - donhuevo: 200C is 392F
Jul 20, 2015 9:05 AM - donhuevo: my point is that the heater block is 200C and it's maybe 4mm from PLA
Jul 20, 2015 9:05 AM - Mike Kelly: wrap the heater in ceramic tape like they do on replicators
Jul 20, 2015 9:05 AM - donhuevo: thus the paranoia and heat reflective tape
Jul 20, 2015 9:05 AM - Mike Kelly:
Jul 20, 2015 9:06 AM - daniel871: Does it do the replicator any good?
Jul 20, 2015 9:06 AM - daniel871:
Jul 20, 2015 9:07 AM - donhuevo: I'm gonna need that for this new carriage then I won't need to worry about a silicone mold
Jul 20, 2015 9:08 AM - Mike Kelly: yes it helps
Jul 20, 2015 9:09 AM - Mike Kelly: but the MK8 extruder design has a lot of thermal transfer going on
Jul 20, 2015 9:09 AM - jbigler1986: I had PLA dicts really close to the heat block and never really had an issue
Jul 20, 2015 9:11 AM - Mike Glass: my abs ones melted next to the heat block.
Jul 20, 2015 9:11 AM - donhuevo: mine's going to be surrounded on three sides with dict
Jul 20, 2015 9:12 AM - Mike Kelly: urmom, the extruder
Jul 20, 2015 9:12 AM - donhuevo: haha
Jul 20, 2015 9:13 AM - Mike Glass: did you design your dict yet don.
Jul 20, 2015 9:16 AM - jbigler1986: LOL
Jul 20, 2015 9:16 AM - donhuevo: I'm having a few dict ideas but haven't drawn anything yet
Jul 20, 2015 9:17 AM - donhuevo: better to be thinking about my dict than thinking with it
Jul 20, 2015 9:17 AM - Mike Glass: how about a donut shaped
Jul 20, 2015 9:18 AM - Mike Kelly: i like the donut shaped ones
Jul 20, 2015 9:18 AM - Mike Kelly: like what eric did for the hercustruder
Jul 20, 2015 9:18 AM - donhuevo: I need to let the wires out so that's why only 3 sides of the heater block
Jul 20, 2015 9:18 AM - Mike Kelly: or maybe only the eustathios spider v2
Jul 20, 2015 9:19 AM - Mike Glass: where can I find a good blower fan?
Jul 20, 2015 9:19 AM - Mike Kelly: what size
Jul 20, 2015 9:19 AM - donhuevo: MK's mom
Jul 20, 2015 9:19 AM - Mike Kelly: i got a 5 pack off amazon for like 10 bucks
Jul 20, 2015 9:20 AM - Mike Glass: what cfm are they
Jul 20, 2015 9:20 AM - donhuevo: 5015's?
Jul 20, 2015 9:21 AM - jbigler1986: i have 2 coming from robotdigg
Jul 20, 2015 9:21 AM - Mike Glass: I see them 11.99 for 5.
Jul 20, 2015 9:23 AM - jbigler1986: i think mine were like $2 a piece
Jul 20, 2015 9:23 AM - donhuevo: I think mine was a five-pack too
Jul 20, 2015 9:23 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah robotdiggs prices weren't great compared to amazon
Jul 20, 2015 9:24 AM - jbigler1986: i didn't research prices at all for them. i was in the zone
Jul 20, 2015 9:26 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah i'm actually giving you 2 from my 5 pack since i don't see myself using them anytime soon
Jul 20, 2015 9:26 AM - jbigler1986: wiring everything up was a pain in the ass
Jul 20, 2015 9:27 AM - Mike Glass: are they fairly quiet MK?
Jul 20, 2015 9:27 AM - Mike Glass: or Don
Jul 20, 2015 9:28 AM - donhuevo: the two I tested were
Jul 20, 2015 9:28 AM - jbigler1986: i should have replaced the psu fan while i was at it. woops
Jul 20, 2015 9:28 AM - Mike Glass: hopefully that was the one I used in the design.
Jul 20, 2015 9:28 AM - donhuevo: just guessing from your pictures, it looked like a 5015
Jul 20, 2015 9:28 AM - Mike Glass: good call, anybody have the size for the psu fan
Jul 20, 2015 9:29 AM - Mike Glass: 15 mm wide right?
Jul 20, 2015 9:29 AM - donhuevo: yep
Jul 20, 2015 9:30 AM - donhuevo: 50 square by 15 wide
Jul 20, 2015 9:32 AM - Mike Glass: what is the exact opening size 12mm x 17mm?
Jul 20, 2015 9:32 AM - donhuevo: inside, don't know... outside is 15x20
Jul 20, 2015 9:33 AM - Mike Glass: the fan I was modeling was 12x30 opening. hmm
Jul 20, 2015 9:34 AM - Mike Glass: so 12x17.6 sounds about right for what you have.
Jul 20, 2015 9:35 AM - donhuevo: a fair guess I'd say. I don't have calipers here at the office
Jul 20, 2015 9:36 AM - jbigler1986: why not
Jul 20, 2015 9:36 AM - Mike Glass: well that is insane don, how do you do your job?
Jul 20, 2015 9:36 AM - donhuevo: that's a really good question
Jul 20, 2015 9:36 AM - Mike Kelly: quiet? no not really
Jul 20, 2015 9:37 AM - donhuevo: quiet compared to the psu fan
Jul 20, 2015 9:37 AM - Mike Kelly: mike i have a model of the 5015 in solidworks if you want it
Jul 20, 2015 9:39 AM - Mike Kelly: also of course fastenal is out of stock on some of the MPCNC hardware
Jul 20, 2015 9:41 AM - Mike Glass: thats shitty, do you have a local outlet?
Jul 20, 2015 9:41 AM - Mike Glass: yea that would help me change this file to fit that size.

 

Jul 20, 2015 9:41 AM - Mike Kelly: i do
Jul 20, 2015 9:42 AM - Aaron Mitchell: o/
Jul 20, 2015 9:42 AM - Mike Kelly: sup aaron
Jul 20, 2015 9:42 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Changing out the lead screws...
Jul 20, 2015 9:42 AM - Mike Glass: again?
Jul 20, 2015 9:42 AM - WheresWaldo: Hey
Jul 20, 2015 9:43 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Just getting to it MG - installed LCD XXL last night after printingMK's case and feet
Jul 20, 2015 9:44 AM - Mike Glass: I wont be able to do mine till tomorrow, unless we get home early enough.
Jul 20, 2015 9:44 AM - Mike Kelly: plan on doing the R1.6 tonight
Jul 20, 2015 9:45 AM - donhuevo: I say go home early today and do them both
Jul 20, 2015 9:45 AM - jbigler1986: finally the ribbing will be gone from 1.6
Jul 20, 2015 9:45 AM - Mike Kelly: heh
Jul 20, 2015 9:45 AM - Mike Kelly: i might
Jul 20, 2015 9:45 AM - Mike Kelly: god i know right?
Jul 20, 2015 9:45 AM - Mike Kelly: i can actually use it for fine detail finally
Jul 20, 2015 9:45 AM - donhuevo: what's the worst that could happen? they fire you?
Jul 20, 2015 9:45 AM - jbigler1986: lol
Jul 20, 2015 9:46 AM - Mike Glass: Well our fedex doesnt get here till around 1 so got a few hours still to wait
Jul 20, 2015 9:47 AM - Mike Glass: Mike, when you get a moment, send me that file. TY
Jul 20, 2015 9:48 AM - Mike Kelly: looking for it now
Jul 20, 2015 9:49 AM - Mike Glass: don that carriage of what I printed of it looked awesome, I should of ran it through netfab first it should of seen the issue.
Jul 20, 2015 9:49 AM - Mike Kelly: i've got to improve my solidworks file organization...
Jul 20, 2015 9:50 AM - donhuevo: the last file I sent you should be clean
Jul 20, 2015 9:50 AM - Mike Glass: im sure yours is crazy compared to mine.
Jul 20, 2015 9:50 AM - Mike Kelly: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wcabb6etovff5jh/50mm Blower Fan.SLDPRT?dl=0
Jul 20, 2015 9:51 AM - Mike Kelly: jb just checked and our order was delivered
Jul 20, 2015 9:51 AM - Mike Glass: It was, but the added stuff i put on it didnt merge on one part.
Jul 20, 2015 9:51 AM - jbigler1986: sweet
Jul 20, 2015 9:51 AM - jbigler1986: send me the invoice whenever and i will pay it friday
Jul 20, 2015 9:51 AM - Mike Kelly: i may have gone a bit overboard on details, but it's purdy
Jul 20, 2015 9:52 AM - Mike Kelly: ooo and the lead screws
Jul 20, 2015 9:55 AM - jbigler1986: nice
Jul 20, 2015 9:55 AM - Mike Glass: did you get lead screws for the cnc?
Jul 20, 2015 9:55 AM - donhuevo: it IS Christmas
Jul 20, 2015 9:55 AM - Mike Kelly: nope i'm just gonna use my old M8 rods
Jul 20, 2015 9:56 AM - jbigler1986: hmmm. i have mine just sitting around.
Jul 20, 2015 9:58 AM - Mike Kelly: time to build the MPCNC then jb!
Jul 20, 2015 10:01 AM - jbigler1986: ha. i will need a new project after i get dual going
Jul 20, 2015 10:02 AM - Mike Glass: Mike do you what size fan the robo psu uses?
Jul 20, 2015 10:02 AM - Mike Kelly: no clue
Jul 20, 2015 10:03 AM - Mike Kelly: i can check here shortly
Jul 20, 2015 10:19 AM - jbigler1986: http://www.3ders.org//articles/2015...-for-screen-printing-on-fabrics-or-paper.html
Jul 20, 2015 10:23 AM - donhuevo: that's cool
Jul 20, 2015 10:23 AM - jbigler1986: better than the iron on method. lol
Jul 20, 2015 10:25 AM - donhuevo: definitely
Jul 20, 2015 10:31 AM - jbigler1986: how long before you will have you carriage done?
Jul 20, 2015 10:32 AM - Mike Kelly: i seriously hate the internet here
Jul 20, 2015 10:32 AM - Mike Kelly: it's so shitty
Jul 20, 2015 10:33 AM - jbigler1986: is it the speed or just the hardware you guys are using
Jul 20, 2015 10:34 AM - Mike Kelly: speed i think
Jul 20, 2015 10:34 AM - Mike Kelly: might need a better router i guess
Jul 20, 2015 10:35 AM - jbigler1986: comcast increased my speed for free
Jul 20, 2015 10:35 AM - jbigler1986: pay for 50Mbps but have been getting 86Mbps
Jul 20, 2015 10:35 AM - donhuevo: nice
Jul 20, 2015 10:36 AM - donhuevo: I'm coming to your house to download porn
Jul 20, 2015 10:36 AM - jbigler1986: ok.
Jul 20, 2015 10:36 AM - jbigler1986: lol
Jul 20, 2015 10:36 AM - jbigler1986: i will blame it on a hacker
Jul 20, 2015 10:37 AM - donhuevo: they get a bad rap. for my area, Time Warner is the worst
Jul 20, 2015 10:38 AM - jbigler1986: I have yet to have them
Jul 20, 2015 10:38 AM - jbigler1986: I had a random one in Colorado. don't remember what it was called
Jul 20, 2015 10:38 AM - donhuevo: I have comcast at home. very solid uptime. 4 of my stores are in time warner territory and 6 in Armstrong. last 2 in comcast
Jul 20, 2015 10:40 AM - jbigler1986: with them you can just call them and say you are switching services or you want cheaper bill or faster speed. they always increase speed or give lower price
Jul 20, 2015 10:41 AM - Mike Kelly: we use integra, it's crap
Jul 20, 2015 10:42 AM - donhuevo: bandwith is a necessary evil for me.
Jul 20, 2015 10:42 AM - Mike Kelly: i have comcast it's home, it's pretty good
Jul 20, 2015 10:43 AM - jbigler1986: yeah i don't think i have a cap right now.
Jul 20, 2015 10:43 AM - daniel871: We only have AT&T DSL where I live.
Jul 20, 2015 10:43 AM - daniel871: Not even U-verse, the shitty 3mb DSL.
Jul 20, 2015 10:43 AM - donhuevo: ouch
Jul 20, 2015 10:43 AM - Mike Glass: EWe
Jul 20, 2015 10:43 AM - daniel871: Nothing else is available.
Jul 20, 2015 10:43 AM - jbigler1986: ouch. no wonder why you loose power. sounds like you are out in the middle of nowhere
Jul 20, 2015 10:44 AM - daniel871: Well, there is Satellite, which costs 3x DSL for less speed.
Jul 20, 2015 10:44 AM - Austin: Duuuude I live out in the sticks bumf**k nowhere all we could get was dsl/dialup for the longest time until like 08
Jul 20, 2015 10:44 AM - daniel871: Yeah, DSL is new here. Dial up was the thing until around the same time Austin is talking about.
Jul 20, 2015 10:45 AM - donhuevo: find the middle of nowhere then find the middle of that
Jul 20, 2015 10:45 AM - daniel871: Prior to that I was using the Satellite service just so I could download updates to stuff.
Jul 20, 2015 10:45 AM - jbigler1986: lol
Jul 20, 2015 10:45 AM - daniel871: Not even middle of nowhere so much as on the side of a mountain and not enough people living here to justify the infrastructure.
Jul 20, 2015 10:45 AM - daniel871: We have county water and electricity, that's it.
Jul 20, 2015 10:46 AM - daniel871: Sewage is basically septic tank.
Jul 20, 2015 10:46 AM - donhuevo: are your phone numbers still 5 digits?
Jul 20, 2015 10:46 AM - jbigler1986: internet is on my list of things when buying a house
Jul 20, 2015 10:46 AM - daniel871: God help you if the ground freezes.
Jul 20, 2015 10:46 AM - Austin: Yuuuup same deal here,
Jul 20, 2015 10:46 AM - Austin: No sewage system, surrounded by mountains
Jul 20, 2015 10:47 AM - daniel871: Had AT&T/Comcast/everyone say "we'd never recoup the cost of running the data lines to supply high speed service, so we aren't doing it".
Jul 20, 2015 10:47 AM - jbigler1986: i would move
Jul 20, 2015 10:47 AM - daniel871: The up side is that I can shoot my guns at targets in the woods without someone calling the cops on me.
Jul 20, 2015 10:48 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Anyone else install these lead screws yet?
Jul 20, 2015 10:48 AM - Austin: Yup theres not enough people out there for them to make some good cheese on hahah
Jul 20, 2015 10:48 AM - daniel871: Mine haven't come in yet.
Jul 20, 2015 10:48 AM - daniel871: See above about living in the middle of nowhere. It'll be tomorrow at earliest before I get mine.
Jul 20, 2015 10:48 AM - Aaron Mitchell: In step 14 of the installation instructions it refers to new z-axis end-stop brackets...
Jul 20, 2015 10:48 AM - daniel871: There should be some black clip things in the box with the steppers.
Jul 20, 2015 10:49 AM - Aaron Mitchell: ...and nothing else came with the lead screws... :/
Jul 20, 2015 10:49 AM - daniel871: See the pic in the lead screw thread.
Jul 20, 2015 10:49 AM - Aaron Mitchell: nope
Jul 20, 2015 10:49 AM - Aaron Mitchell: !#$!#%^@

 

Jul 20, 2015 10:49 AM - daniel871: Looks like several people have had motors and no clips shipped to them.
Jul 20, 2015 10:49 AM - Aaron Mitchell: HAAAARRY!
Jul 20, 2015 10:49 AM - daniel871: You're not the first person I've seen say they weren't there.
Jul 20, 2015 10:49 AM - daniel871: Hey MK, did you get Z end stops with yours?
Jul 20, 2015 10:49 AM - Aaron Mitchell: lemme go double check the packaging...
Jul 20, 2015 10:50 AM - daniel871: They may be wrapped in bubble wrap somewhere random depending on how they were packed.
Jul 20, 2015 10:51 AM - donhuevo: wonder if they put it on thingiverse
Jul 20, 2015 10:51 AM - daniel871: I could see those little black pieces lost in bubble wrap somewhere.
Jul 20, 2015 10:51 AM - jbigler1986: just print my adapter that i use
Jul 20, 2015 10:51 AM - daniel871: Link?
Jul 20, 2015 10:51 AM - Aaron Mitchell: nope...nothing else in the bubble wrap...
Jul 20, 2015 10:51 AM - Aaron Mitchell: wasn't that big of a package either..
Jul 20, 2015 10:51 AM - daniel871: You should have those two black objects somewhere.
Jul 20, 2015 10:52 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Yeah...they are still at Robo HQ
Jul 20, 2015 10:52 AM - jbigler1986: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:764780/#files
Jul 20, 2015 10:52 AM - Mike Kelly: part of me feels bad when people say they want to quit
Jul 20, 2015 10:52 AM - Aaron Mitchell: HAHA...JB...I would if I hadn't already gone through the other 13 steps
Jul 20, 2015 10:52 AM - Mike Kelly: the other part is me thinking:
Jul 20, 2015 10:53 AM - jbigler1986: quit printing?
Jul 20, 2015 10:53 AM - daniel871: I'm thinking that anyone that is in such dire financial straights that buying the Robo will cripple them if they can't make money from it, they shouldn't have bought it to start with.
Jul 20, 2015 10:53 AM - daniel871: Fuck grammar, btw.
Jul 20, 2015 10:53 AM - jbigler1986: ^
Jul 20, 2015 10:53 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah
Jul 20, 2015 10:54 AM - jbigler1986: i bought this $800 printer but can't afford to buy filament for it
Jul 20, 2015 10:54 AM - jbigler1986: priorities
Jul 20, 2015 10:54 AM - Mike Kelly: always makes me laugh a little when people freak out about wasting filament
Jul 20, 2015 10:54 AM - jbigler1986: if you lose your job or something I get it. Otherwise it's not a good idea
Jul 20, 2015 10:55 AM - daniel871: I just hate wasting things.
Jul 20, 2015 10:55 AM - Mike Kelly: i've probably thrown away more failures than they'll ever buy
Jul 20, 2015 10:55 AM - jbigler1986: doesn't bother me either
Jul 20, 2015 10:55 AM - daniel871: Don't mind so much if I know what caused the failure and can keep it from happening again, but a random failure ticks me off.
Jul 20, 2015 10:55 AM - jbigler1986: trashed that bowl that was over halfway done. no biggie. shit happens
Jul 20, 2015 10:56 AM - daniel871: Like the wade hobbed gear randomly stripping out on metal filled filaments.
Jul 20, 2015 10:56 AM - donhuevo: no new official z end stop brackets on thingiverse
Jul 20, 2015 10:56 AM - daniel871: Wonder which of JB's things I should use if I don't get the official one.
Jul 20, 2015 10:56 AM - Mike Kelly: lol robo3d actually putting part files on thingiverse?
Jul 20, 2015 10:57 AM - Mike Kelly: what do you think they are? open source?
Jul 20, 2015 10:57 AM - jbigler1986: the larger one. smaller one needed a bunch of sanding
Jul 20, 2015 10:57 AM - donhuevo: http://www.thingiverse.com/search/r...d&description=&username=robo3d&tags=&license=
Jul 20, 2015 10:57 AM - daniel871: The -37
Jul 20, 2015 10:57 AM - daniel871: -27 rather.
Jul 20, 2015 10:57 AM - Mike Kelly: 404
Jul 20, 2015 10:57 AM - jbigler1986: ^
Jul 20, 2015 10:57 AM - toy: http://imgur.com/fyECVz4 my future bed..???
Jul 20, 2015 10:58 AM - jbigler1986: i get that alot with thingiverse links
Jul 20, 2015 10:58 AM - donhuevo: thingiverse->advanced search->created by 'robo3d'
Jul 20, 2015 10:58 AM - Mike Kelly: what is this
Jul 20, 2015 10:58 AM - daniel871: Looks uncomfortable.
Jul 20, 2015 10:58 AM - daniel871: toy's titanium print bed I think.
Jul 20, 2015 10:58 AM - toy: no
Jul 20, 2015 10:58 AM - donhuevo: granite?
Jul 20, 2015 10:58 AM - Mike Glass: granite
Jul 20, 2015 10:59 AM - toy: Porcelain
Jul 20, 2015 10:59 AM - Mike Kelly: sounds heavy
Jul 20, 2015 10:59 AM - jbigler1986: plywood?
Jul 20, 2015 10:59 AM - toy: weight still has zero effect on the hopw easy it is to turn the screw
Jul 20, 2015 10:59 AM - donhuevo: how about direction change
Jul 20, 2015 11:00 AM - toy: i need to cut it down to 10 x 15"
Jul 20, 2015 11:00 AM - jbigler1986: it's the starting and stopping
Jul 20, 2015 11:00 AM - donhuevo: will it need like 400 ft to come to a complete stop?
Jul 20, 2015 11:00 AM - toy: easy don
Jul 20, 2015 11:00 AM - jbigler1986:
Jul 20, 2015 11:00 AM - Mike Kelly: weight has complete effect on inertia dampening
Jul 20, 2015 11:00 AM - toy: stops on a dime
Jul 20, 2015 11:00 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Need to go get a beer and chill out.... o/
Jul 20, 2015 11:01 AM - jbigler1986: put old ones back and print that part
Jul 20, 2015 11:01 AM - Mike Kelly: a dime is pretty big
Jul 20, 2015 11:01 AM - toy: stops on a micron
Jul 20, 2015 11:01 AM - Mike Kelly: yes but how long does it require to go from max speed to 0
Jul 20, 2015 11:02 AM - jbigler1986: and vice versa
Jul 20, 2015 11:02 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Don...which do I print? The 3 or 3-27?
Jul 20, 2015 11:02 AM - Mike Kelly: without causing vibrations or displacement
Jul 20, 2015 11:02 AM - jbigler1986: larger one
Jul 20, 2015 11:03 AM - jbigler1986: 27
Jul 20, 2015 11:03 AM - donhuevo: 3 what?
Jul 20, 2015 11:03 AM - Aaron Mitchell: OK...after I calm down...I put my OLD steppers back in...
Jul 20, 2015 11:03 AM - donhuevo: 27 who?
Jul 20, 2015 11:03 AM - toy: better than belts i would say mike
Jul 20, 2015 11:03 AM - Aaron Mitchell: v3 or v3_27
Jul 20, 2015 11:03 AM - jbigler1986: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:764780/#files
Jul 20, 2015 11:03 AM - daniel871: jb's Z thing.
Jul 20, 2015 11:03 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Sorry...Mike Kelly, not Don
Jul 20, 2015 11:03 AM - daniel871: v3-27
Jul 20, 2015 11:03 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Thanks daniel, Jb, et al..
Jul 20, 2015 11:04 AM - Aaron Mitchell: (_)]
Jul 20, 2015 11:04 AM - Mike Kelly: i'm confused by what's happening here
Jul 20, 2015 11:04 AM - donhuevo: you're confused
Jul 20, 2015 11:04 AM - Aaron Mitchell: I am missing Z-clips and someone linked me your design, MK
Jul 20, 2015 11:05 AM - Aaron Mitchell: I thought it was don...but it was Dan...and JB...all clear...beer time
Jul 20, 2015 11:05 AM - jbigler1986: i gave MK the dimensions and he made it
Jul 20, 2015 11:05 AM - Mike Kelly: Z clips?
Jul 20, 2015 11:05 AM - donhuevo: endstop switch bracketry
Jul 20, 2015 11:05 AM - daniel871: The replacement Z endstops or whatever for the leadscrew upgrade.
Jul 20, 2015 11:05 AM - daniel871: Apparently Aaron and a few others haven't had them come with the steppers.
Jul 20, 2015 11:05 AM - Aaron Mitchell: New lead screws I am installing today...missing z end-clips in the package...
Jul 20, 2015 11:06 AM - daniel871: Leave it to Robo QC to leave critical parts out of the package.
Jul 20, 2015 11:06 AM - Aaron Mitchell: My blood pressure shot up...pulse racing...because I got to step THIRTEEN and found out they were missing...need....beer...
Jul 20, 2015 11:06 AM - jbigler1986: did they atleast come with the nut?
Jul 20, 2015 11:06 AM - Mike Kelly: the part that plugs into the ramps?
Jul 20, 2015 11:06 AM - Aaron Mitchell: yes...nut was on the screw

 

Jul 20, 2015 11:06 AM - daniel871: Well, to be fair they do have a picture in step one showing all of the parts.
Jul 20, 2015 11:06 AM - jbigler1986: no MK. the part that holds the z switches
Jul 20, 2015 11:07 AM - daniel871: Or somewhere in that document
Jul 20, 2015 11:07 AM - Mike Kelly: eh just use the stock ones
Jul 20, 2015 11:07 AM - Aaron Mitchell: No one reads step one Daniel...pshaw
Jul 20, 2015 11:07 AM - jbigler1986: ^
Jul 20, 2015 11:07 AM - donhuevo: you have to figure the same guy packed all those initial shipments.
Jul 20, 2015 11:07 AM - Mike Kelly: i believe it was harry
Jul 20, 2015 11:07 AM - jbigler1986: just clamps onto the nut
Jul 20, 2015 11:08 AM - jbigler1986: not sure why they include those anyways
Jul 20, 2015 11:08 AM - donhuevo: I'm betting you'll be missing yours too Mike
Jul 20, 2015 11:08 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Harry's name wasn't on the box...but I can blame him since he isnt here
Jul 20, 2015 11:08 AM - jbigler1986: just use the stock one
Jul 20, 2015 11:08 AM - Mike Kelly: most likely!
Jul 20, 2015 11:08 AM - daniel871: Wait, no, the instructions don't actually have a "Before you begin, make sure all of these parts are present" page like every assembly document ever made.
Jul 20, 2015 11:09 AM - Mike Kelly: again pretty sure harry made that
Jul 20, 2015 11:09 AM - jbigler1986: really have no clue why they are using different ones
Jul 20, 2015 11:09 AM - Aaron Mitchell: ^
Jul 20, 2015 11:09 AM - daniel871: I've been looking at/lusting after the things since I ordered them, so I got the photo mixed up with the upgrade instructions.
Jul 20, 2015 11:09 AM - Mike Kelly: jb it's some strange attempt to prevent the nut getting thrown out causing the wires to get tangled
Jul 20, 2015 11:09 AM - jbigler1986: Aaron just unbolt the old one and bolt it onto the new one
Jul 20, 2015 11:10 AM - daniel871: Never had that problem, so the original one should be fine to put on the new one.
Jul 20, 2015 11:10 AM - Mike Kelly: if only they took my advice over a year ago and not have it be a normally open circuit you'd have a failure method
Jul 20, 2015 11:10 AM - donhuevo: as long as the nut size is the same (which it should be)
Jul 20, 2015 11:10 AM - Mike Kelly: though they also help with backlash prevention
Jul 20, 2015 11:10 AM - Mike Kelly: nut size is the same
Jul 20, 2015 11:10 AM - Mike Kelly: since the idlers aren't changing
Jul 20, 2015 11:10 AM - donhuevo: I hate backlash in my nuts
Jul 20, 2015 11:10 AM - daniel871: Nut thickness may be different in terms of the length of threads covered.
Jul 20, 2015 11:11 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Going to use the old ones...get it up and working...print MK's design...and when I get the right ones shipped I will keep them for building my next printer :/
Jul 20, 2015 11:11 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Nuts look the same...I will give it a shot...
Jul 20, 2015 11:11 AM - Mike Kelly: which design?
Jul 20, 2015 11:11 AM - Mike Kelly: my design is the same as what they used originally
Jul 20, 2015 11:11 AM - jbigler1986: the adapter that you made for me
Jul 20, 2015 11:12 AM - Mike Kelly: won't work
Jul 20, 2015 11:12 AM - jbigler1986: oh wait
Jul 20, 2015 11:12 AM - Austin: Hey guys the new bracket just prevents the nut from being disorientied
Jul 20, 2015 11:12 AM - Aaron Mitchell: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:764780/#files
Jul 20, 2015 11:12 AM - jbigler1986: nevermind. i use a delrin nut
Jul 20, 2015 11:12 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Yes, Austin is correct...that is the purpose...
Jul 20, 2015 11:12 AM - jbigler1986: duh
Jul 20, 2015 11:12 AM - Mike Kelly: that's what i said austin
Jul 20, 2015 11:12 AM - jbigler1986: don't print that
Jul 20, 2015 11:12 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Austin just said it in English )
Jul 20, 2015 11:13 AM - Mike Kelly: haha
Jul 20, 2015 11:13 AM - Mike Kelly: ok fine
Jul 20, 2015 11:13 AM - Austin: So if it didn't come in the new kit you can still install the motors and it'll work just fine
Jul 20, 2015 11:14 AM - jbigler1986: not if you don't put the old endstop bracket back on
Jul 20, 2015 11:14 AM - Aaron Mitchell: I know Austin..I just keep getting shipments with missing/broken parts...
Jul 20, 2015 11:15 AM - Austin: from robo?
Jul 20, 2015 11:15 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Some from robo...some from elsewhere...been a frustrating week...
Jul 20, 2015 11:17 AM - Aaron Mitchell: I feel like JB with crap all over my desk...
Jul 20, 2015 11:17 AM - donhuevo: remember when they were shipping glass bed replacements without enough protection?
Jul 20, 2015 11:17 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Yeah...I had a broken y-bed rail bracket and the corner of my glass was chipped
Jul 20, 2015 11:17 AM - Aaron Mitchell: It wasn't from shipping though
Jul 20, 2015 11:17 AM - Austin: how long ago was that?
Jul 20, 2015 11:17 AM - Aaron Mitchell: two weeks ago....
Jul 20, 2015 11:18 AM - Aaron Mitchell: The box inner/outer were fine...
Jul 20, 2015 11:18 AM - jbigler1986: hey. my robo and desk should be clean by the end of the night
Jul 20, 2015 11:18 AM - donhuevo: I want one of those frogs in turquoise/orange
Jul 20, 2015 11:19 AM - Aaron Mitchell: I watched a video the other day on Robo's facebook page of them stacking 500 Robo's for shipment and one of the kids was standing on the stack (5-6 high)...At the very end of the video they grab a ladder to relax against
Jul 20, 2015 11:19 AM - Aaron Mitchell: X
Jul 20, 2015 11:19 AM - Aaron Mitchell: My Robo was probably one of the one's on the bottom
Jul 20, 2015 11:20 AM - Aaron Mitchell: You would think they would have used the ladder instead of walking on top of a stack of printers
Jul 20, 2015 11:20 AM - donhuevo: jb's first dual print... http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:329436
Jul 20, 2015 11:20 AM - Austin: Oh my god how embarrassing >_<
Jul 20, 2015 11:20 AM - Mike Kelly: those boxes are really robust
Jul 20, 2015 11:21 AM - Aaron Mitchell: That they are MK...
Jul 20, 2015 11:21 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Better not be a dildo, Don
Jul 20, 2015 11:21 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Oh...frog...hehe
Jul 20, 2015 11:22 AM - Aaron Mitchell: I wonder how much slower it is to print something like that....
Jul 20, 2015 11:22 AM - Mike Kelly: a little less than twice as long for something that complex
Jul 20, 2015 11:22 AM - Mike Kelly: i think that took like 3.5hours
Jul 20, 2015 11:23 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Is the Z-clip flush with the top of the nut?
Jul 20, 2015 11:23 AM - Mike Kelly: no
Jul 20, 2015 11:23 AM - jbigler1986: MK did you see my dual setup last night?
Jul 20, 2015 11:23 AM - Aaron Mitchell: !@#$
Jul 20, 2015 11:24 AM - Mike Kelly: the switch sits flat against the idler
Jul 20, 2015 11:24 AM - Mike Kelly: don't think i did jb
Jul 20, 2015 11:26 AM - Aaron Mitchell: OMG...I am reading these instructions and blood pressure rising more...
Jul 20, 2015 11:26 AM - daniel871: That switch sits flat against the idler thing is part of the instructions, but they may not print well.
Jul 20, 2015 11:26 AM - jbigler1986:
Jul 20, 2015 11:27 AM - daniel871: I know the web version has a thumbnail you click on for more clear explanation of that step.
Jul 20, 2015 11:27 AM - jbigler1986: It's patent pending
Jul 20, 2015 11:27 AM - Aaron Mitchell: After replacing the steppers, and fitting my big hands in the small space to remove and replace the screws holding the steppers in place, they later have you REMOVE the case...why not do that at the beginning ?
Jul 20, 2015 11:28 AM - daniel871: So as not to bend the solid rods with the weight of the robo on them while doing the stepper attachment?
Jul 20, 2015 11:28 AM - daniel871: Could probably remove the top of the case as soon as the steppers are secured though.
Jul 20, 2015 11:29 AM - daniel871: secured/plugged in.
Jul 20, 2015 11:29 AM - Aaron Mitchell: I suppose...gah
Jul 20, 2015 11:29 AM - daniel871: secured/plugged in and the bottom cover put back on.
Jul 20, 2015 11:29 AM - Aaron Mitchell: I don't see the difference...
Jul 20, 2015 11:29 AM - donhuevo: I always stumbled on inserting Tab A into Slot B
Jul 20, 2015 11:29 AM - daniel871: I just wouldn't want the full weight of the base resting on one of those rods by itself.
Jul 20, 2015 11:30 AM - donhuevo: I think cracking the little plastic bracket at the base of the smooth rod would be more likely
Jul 20, 2015 11:31 AM - daniel871: Same difference, there are weak points there that wouldn't support the rest of the machine weight.
Jul 20, 2015 11:31 AM - Mike Glass: Im printing new ones of those, I already see stress cracks on mine.
Jul 20, 2015 11:31 AM - daniel871: PET+, BluPrint or Nylon?
Jul 20, 2015 11:32 AM - daniel871: Also I haven't attempted BluPrint yet.
Jul 20, 2015 11:32 AM - Mike Glass: I cant print my nylon, hex dont like the swelled up bridge I have.
Jul 20, 2015 11:33 AM - daniel871: Wasn't successful with Nylon the last time I tried it, either. Cooling happens too fast even with the enclosure. Should be getting the shop electrified this week though so the warm summer weather will help that.

 

Jul 20, 2015 11:33 AM - donhuevo: what's the spacing between threaded rod and smooth rod? I can adapt this...
Jul 20, 2015 11:34 AM - daniel871: Stop coming up with more upgrades for me to print.
Jul 20, 2015 11:34 AM - donhuevo: sorry
Jul 20, 2015 11:34 AM - donhuevo: if you could have a z support with 6 screws instead of two, how could you not do it
Jul 20, 2015 11:35 AM - daniel871: Depends on how rigid the new lead screws are alongside the smooth rods.
Jul 20, 2015 11:35 AM - toy: elle king is rob schneider daughter.... hmmm i didnt know that
Jul 20, 2015 11:36 AM - daniel871: Well, her not stage name is Tanner Schneider.
Jul 20, 2015 11:37 AM - Aaron Mitchell: MK...what size screws do you use to hold the feet on the printer?
Jul 20, 2015 11:38 AM - daniel871: Thanks for that Aaron, reminds me that I was going to ask that myself for after I'm done doing the dual upgrade.
Jul 20, 2015 11:39 AM - Mike Kelly: i used M3 but you can use w/e
Jul 20, 2015 11:39 AM - Mike Kelly: i did get the new autolevel brackets
Jul 20, 2015 11:39 AM - toy: i like her wiskey voice daniel
Jul 20, 2015 11:40 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Mike...5mm length or so?
Jul 20, 2015 11:40 AM - Mike Kelly: hmm 10mm probably is needed unless you're just tapping into the pastic
Jul 20, 2015 11:40 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Also, Where does the cable for the LCD XXL feed through the bottom cover? Did you cutout the corner?
Jul 20, 2015 11:41 AM - Mike Kelly: i did not have a bottom cover when i came up with that design
Jul 20, 2015 11:41 AM - daniel871: I just was very careful about pulling the cable to where I wanted it to go out and then closing the bottom.
Jul 20, 2015 11:41 AM - Aaron Mitchell: or not have a bottom cover?
Jul 20, 2015 11:41 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah what daniel said
Jul 20, 2015 11:41 AM - Mike Kelly: the cables should fit through the cracks
Jul 20, 2015 11:41 AM - Aaron Mitchell: OK... I may rub off the edge of the bottom with a dremel to keep it from pinching
Jul 20, 2015 11:41 AM - daniel871: The cover isn't tight enough to squeeze the wire, you just want to have the placement where it goes out right.
Jul 20, 2015 11:42 AM - daniel871: There is a gap for air on the long straight paths of the bottom, it only pinches at the tongue/groove bits.
Jul 20, 2015 11:42 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Aight...heading to ACE....see you guys later...thanks for the help and talking me down
Jul 20, 2015 11:42 AM - daniel871: Or at least that's how mine fits.
Jul 20, 2015 11:43 AM - Mike Glass: pull out the existing sd card, perfect spot for your lcd wires.
Jul 20, 2015 11:43 AM - daniel871:
Jul 20, 2015 11:43 AM - daniel871: Other than maybe not having enough LCD cable length to go thru that and then come back to the swivel foot.
Jul 20, 2015 11:44 AM - Mike Glass: Mike do you have robo's PS SW part?
Jul 20, 2015 11:44 AM - daniel871: Also is there any reason I can't just print the feet and swivel mount in PLA? PET has been an absolute bitch on support material removal.
Jul 20, 2015 11:44 AM - Mike Kelly: na mike but there's a bunch of psu files on grabcad
Jul 20, 2015 11:44 AM - daniel871: For the actual swivel foot I've been trying to print.
Jul 20, 2015 11:45 AM - Mike Kelly: PLA is fine
Jul 20, 2015 11:45 AM - daniel871: Okay. Yay.
Jul 20, 2015 11:45 AM - Mike Glass: was just gonna measure, im placing a order know so wanted to add an extra fan replacement.
Jul 20, 2015 11:45 AM - daniel871: Because I'm going to save my unopened PET+ spool for something else down the line.
Jul 20, 2015 11:45 AM - Mike Kelly: just measured, pretty sure it's a 60mm
Jul 20, 2015 11:46 AM - daniel871: How do I do the Ramps fan extender mod?
Jul 20, 2015 11:46 AM - daniel871: Is there a thread about it?
Jul 20, 2015 11:46 AM - Mike Kelly: nope
Jul 20, 2015 11:46 AM - Mike Kelly: which one did you buy
Jul 20, 2015 11:46 AM - Mike Glass: 60x60x25?
Jul 20, 2015 11:46 AM - daniel871: The one you linked to the other day.
Jul 20, 2015 11:46 AM - daniel871: Hang on and I'll get the link.
Jul 20, 2015 11:46 AM - Mike Kelly: the riorand one uses pin 6 and 10
Jul 20, 2015 11:46 AM - Mike Kelly: wait no, 11
Jul 20, 2015 11:47 AM - Mike Kelly: mike i don't know on the thickness, whatever is common most likely
Jul 20, 2015 11:47 AM - daniel871: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DVH44TM
Jul 20, 2015 11:48 AM - daniel871: D6 & D11 apparently.
Jul 20, 2015 11:49 AM - Mike Kelly: yup
Jul 20, 2015 11:49 AM - daniel871: What I meant was, do I redirect the parts fans there only or will the hotend fans have to be moved there as well?
Jul 20, 2015 11:50 AM - Mike Kelly: are you going dual?
Jul 20, 2015 11:50 AM - daniel871: Yep. Why not.
Jul 20, 2015 11:50 AM - donhuevo: doesnt that fan extender plug into aux 1?
Jul 20, 2015 11:50 AM - Mike Kelly: the servo port yes
Jul 20, 2015 11:51 AM - Mike Kelly: snap the 25mm fans from robotdigg have a metal fan blade
Jul 20, 2015 11:51 AM - daniel871: Already have the hercustruder bits and will have the stepper by the time the lead screw upgrade comes in.
Jul 20, 2015 11:51 AM - donhuevo:
Jul 20, 2015 11:52 AM - daniel871: Also the actual carriage/etc.
Jul 20, 2015 11:52 AM - daniel871: Just need to assemble the second volcano and decide on the nozzle.
Jul 20, 2015 11:52 AM - daniel871: And then get them indicated to the same height.
Jul 20, 2015 11:53 AM - daniel871: Probably going to just have .6mm on both for a compromise between speeds/details.
Jul 20, 2015 11:54 AM - daniel871: Even if the 2nd one will rarely be used after I get it to do something successfully.
Jul 20, 2015 11:54 AM - daniel871: (mainly thinking dissolvable supports whenever I need that)
Jul 20, 2015 11:54 AM - donhuevo: yeah, Matt was saying there was some new dissolvables on the horizon and was looking for guinea pigs
Jul 20, 2015 11:55 AM - donhuevo: I volunteered MK
Jul 20, 2015 11:55 AM - Mike Kelly: i accept your nomination
Jul 20, 2015 11:55 AM - daniel871: If you see him before I do on here, let him know I'd be interested in trying it after I get the dual setup completed.
Jul 20, 2015 11:55 AM - Mike Kelly: dissolvable is a bit of a misnomer since you don't always need to dissolve
Jul 20, 2015 11:55 AM - Mike Kelly: still works great as a clean break support
Jul 20, 2015 11:56 AM - donhuevo: he said "dissolvable"
Jul 20, 2015 11:56 AM - donhuevo: finger quotes there
Jul 20, 2015 11:56 AM - daniel871: Be cool to print something that would otherwise be solid, dissolve the filament that can be dissolved and be left with a neat semi-hollow structure.
Jul 20, 2015 11:57 AM - Mike Kelly: solved filament also tends to turn into a paste once the solvent starts to saturate
Jul 20, 2015 11:59 AM - daniel871: I'm thinking more like this:
Jul 20, 2015 12:00 PM - daniel871: PVA not HIPS.
Jul 20, 2015 12:05 PM - donhuevo: nanites will be the support material of the future
Jul 20, 2015 12:06 PM - donhuevo: they'll assemble like cheerleaders in a pyramid then dismount on command
Jul 20, 2015 12:06 PM - donhuevo: the whole time yelling go jb, its your birthday
Jul 20, 2015 12:06 PM - Mike Kelly: looks like all of JB's stuff arrived
Jul 20, 2015 12:08 PM - daniel871: Why, because he's silent/gone?
Jul 20, 2015 12:13 PM - Mike Glass: Aaron this is what your are looking for.
Jul 20, 2015 12:13 PM - Mike Kelly: that he is
Jul 20, 2015 12:13 PM - Stephen Capistron: Like a fart in the wind
Jul 20, 2015 12:13 PM - Stephen Capistron: <Pot meet kettle,...>
Jul 20, 2015 12:16 PM - Mike Glass: ugg, these rods are effin crooked as shit
Jul 20, 2015 12:16 PM - Stephen Capistron: Your new screws?
Jul 20, 2015 12:17 PM - Mike Glass: yep
Jul 20, 2015 12:17 PM - Mike Kelly: seriously? wtf
Jul 20, 2015 12:17 PM - Stephen Capistron: Well that kind of defeats the purpose
Jul 20, 2015 12:18 PM - donhuevo: Mike, didn't you build a threaded rod straightener?
Jul 20, 2015 12:18 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah sorta
Jul 20, 2015 12:18 PM - Mike Glass: well seems to be mostly one out of the four.
Jul 20, 2015 12:19 PM - Stephen Capistron: Threaded rod straightener, AKA the gun show
Jul 20, 2015 12:19 PM - Mike Glass: tip looks like somebody took a vise grip to the thread. geez
Jul 20, 2015 12:21 PM - Mike Kelly: also i'm pretty sure their steps per mm in the firmware is wrong
Jul 20, 2015 12:21 PM - Mike Kelly: 800 is for TR8*4 and these are TR8*2
Jul 20, 2015 12:22 PM - daniel871: So what should it be?
Jul 20, 2015 12:22 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Yes, Mike...those were definitely not in my box
Jul 20, 2015 12:22 PM - daniel871: 400? 1600?

 

Jul 20, 2015 12:22 PM - Mike Glass: that blows
Jul 20, 2015 12:23 PM - Mike Glass: least you dont have a bent and damaged one.
Jul 20, 2015 12:23 PM - Aaron Mitchell: True dat
Jul 20, 2015 12:23 PM - Stephen Capistron: Just try it with a cube. You'll figure it out quickly
Jul 20, 2015 12:23 PM - daniel871: I'm going to shift from fairly calm to ludicrously angry in record time if mine come in bent.
Jul 20, 2015 12:23 PM - donhuevo: does TR8*4 mean 4mm per revolution?
Jul 20, 2015 12:24 PM - Mike Kelly: ok i think i know where my mistake is
Jul 20, 2015 12:24 PM - Mike Kelly: they're TR8*4 dual start
Jul 20, 2015 12:24 PM - daniel871: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out if TR8*4 means double the steps or half the steps of TR8*2.
Jul 20, 2015 12:24 PM - Mike Kelly: half
Jul 20, 2015 12:25 PM - Mike Kelly: 1 pitch would be 3200 steps per mm, 2 is 1600, 4 is 800, 8 is 400 etc
Jul 20, 2015 12:25 PM - daniel871: So if they're TR8*2 I should put 1600 in the steps instead of the 800.
Jul 20, 2015 12:25 PM - Mike Kelly: usually TR8*8 is 4 start
Jul 20, 2015 12:25 PM - donhuevo: are they assuming 16x microstepping on the ramps?
Jul 20, 2015 12:26 PM - Mike Kelly: yes
Jul 20, 2015 12:26 PM - Stephen Capistron: http://www.omc-stepperonline.com/linear-stepper-motors-c-3.html
Jul 20, 2015 12:26 PM - Mike Kelly: well they are TR8*4 so it's 800
Jul 20, 2015 12:26 PM - Stephen Capistron: Second number is leads per revolution
Jul 20, 2015 12:26 PM - Aaron Mitchell: At least you didn't install yours before you found out they were bent, Mike :/
Jul 20, 2015 12:27 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Send me your clips and let Robo just send you a whole new box
Jul 20, 2015 12:27 PM - Mike Glass: My luck getting parts from robo is not the best. thats why I ordered 2 sets.
Jul 20, 2015 12:27 PM - Mike Kelly: i'm using TR10*2 on my robo now and they're 1600
Jul 20, 2015 12:28 PM - Mike Kelly: mike got a picture of the bend
Jul 20, 2015 12:28 PM - donhuevo: right... no microstepping and 200 steps per rev motor would mean 100 steps per mm
Jul 20, 2015 12:28 PM - Mike Glass: They look kinda chessy, I think OMC is the way to go if you want real quality
Jul 20, 2015 12:28 PM - daniel871: So 16 microsteps should mean 1600 esteps in the firmware right?
Jul 20, 2015 12:28 PM - Mike Kelly: yes
Jul 20, 2015 12:28 PM - donhuevo: for a 2mm pitch
Jul 20, 2015 12:28 PM - Stephen Capistron: Jb and I run at 400
Jul 20, 2015 12:28 PM - donhuevo: for a 4mm pitch, it would be 800
Jul 20, 2015 12:29 PM - Stephen Capistron: With our sainsmart ones
Jul 20, 2015 12:30 PM - Stephen Capistron: Either way it is an easy guess and check sort of thing
Jul 20, 2015 12:30 PM - daniel871: If I can get un-broken parts and actually have everything included, I'll be happy.
Jul 20, 2015 12:30 PM - daniel871: Sad that I'm worried about that though.
Jul 20, 2015 12:30 PM - donhuevo: this is what I have... http://www.omc-stepperonline.com/th...per-motor-48mm-body-300mm-t635-x-2-p-225.html
Jul 20, 2015 12:31 PM - Mike Glass: they are not packaged very well
Jul 20, 2015 12:31 PM - Mike Kelly: the quality seem pretty good to me
Jul 20, 2015 12:31 PM - Mike Kelly: just verified on the rod, definitely double start
Jul 20, 2015 12:32 PM - Mike Kelly: i think the brass nut has a bit too much play but maybe i'm just used to my delrin ones
Jul 20, 2015 12:33 PM - donhuevo: as long as gravity still exists in your garage, you should be ok
Jul 20, 2015 12:33 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah true that
Jul 20, 2015 12:35 PM - daniel871: That would be a neat trick though.
Jul 20, 2015 12:39 PM - Mike Kelly: bah i don't wanna go back to work, wanna play with my new toys
Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM - donhuevo: again, what's the worst that could happen?
Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM - Aaron Mitchell: SOunds like time for a vacation, Mike
Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah i've been taking it a lot lately though
Jul 20, 2015 12:41 PM - Mike Kelly: i worked thursday morning, off till today, worked this morning
Jul 20, 2015 12:41 PM - donhuevo: you're saving them electricity
Jul 20, 2015 12:41 PM - Mike Kelly: haha
Jul 20, 2015 12:44 PM - Mike Kelly: i at least need to go down and get my camcorder
Jul 20, 2015 12:46 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Man...the couplers on the old steppers were REALLY flexible...
Jul 20, 2015 12:57 PM - Aaron Mitchell: The day just keeps gettin better
Jul 20, 2015 12:57 PM - Mike Kelly: what happened now
Jul 20, 2015 12:58 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Got a portable (battery powered) Dremel, that doesn't take standard bits?!
Jul 20, 2015 12:59 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Came with a box of accessory bits without the appropriate collet...WTF...
Jul 20, 2015 12:59 PM - Mike Kelly: damn lame
Jul 20, 2015 1:00 PM - Aaron Mitchell: nvm...I got it...
Jul 20, 2015 1:01 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Collet was jammed into the collar ...had to pop it out first
Jul 20, 2015 1:01 PM - Mike Kelly: phew
Jul 20, 2015 1:03 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Haha...battery died...
Jul 20, 2015 1:04 PM - Mike Kelly: that's why i've never heard good things about cordless dremels
Jul 20, 2015 1:04 PM - Aaron Mitchell: I just pulled it outta the box
Jul 20, 2015 1:05 PM - Mike Kelly: gotta charge before first use as well
Jul 20, 2015 1:05 PM - Aaron Mitchell: I just wanted a little cheapy to work plastic with
Jul 20, 2015 1:05 PM - Stephen Capistron: That's why I like to have 2 of every tool. Cordless and corded
Jul 20, 2015 1:05 PM - Mike Kelly: i have some black and decker knockoff
Jul 20, 2015 1:06 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Small enough and light enough not to wreck small pieces...I have a corded dremel out in my shop..
Jul 20, 2015 1:06 PM - Aaron Mitchell: It would just be over kill
Jul 20, 2015 1:07 PM - Stephen Capistron: Overkill, I don't understand
Jul 20, 2015 1:08 PM - Aaron Mitchell: I am just trying to shave of small bits of plastic...a huge dremel would make me heavy handed...I always take off way too much
Jul 20, 2015 1:08 PM - Aaron Mitchell: needed something light and easy to manipulate...
Jul 20, 2015 1:08 PM - Mike Kelly: gotcha
Jul 20, 2015 1:09 PM - Aaron Mitchell: http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-7700-1-15-MultiPro-7-2-Volt/dp/B002BACCDA
Jul 20, 2015 1:10 PM - Mike Kelly: i think i'd prefer the flex shaft since even that's a bit bigger than i'd like
Jul 20, 2015 1:11 PM - Aaron Mitchell: I have a flex line...just don't like the feel of it...I want to yank on it when I don't get enough slack...
Jul 20, 2015 1:11 PM - Mike Kelly: makes sense
Jul 20, 2015 1:11 PM - Mike Kelly: never used one
Jul 20, 2015 1:13 PM - Stephen Capistron: Make a arm band holder for the dremel so it is stuck to your forearm or something, so it is always at about the right distance
Jul 20, 2015 1:13 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Going to Print a holster and attach it to the Robo
Jul 20, 2015 1:14 PM - Mike Kelly: oh wow you can use a ps4 controller on an arduino over bluetooth
Jul 20, 2015 1:14 PM - Aaron Mitchell: yeah...
Jul 20, 2015 1:15 PM - Aaron Mitchell: You can stream video games from your PC to a Raspberry Pi to your TV in the living room...
Jul 20, 2015 1:16 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Still need to build a multitouch Smartboard for my classroom using a Wiimote...
Jul 20, 2015 1:16 PM - Aaron Mitchell: That's the type of stuff I work on when I am not wrestling 3D Printers...
Jul 20, 2015 1:18 PM - Aaron Mitchell: naptime....afk
Jul 20, 2015 1:18 PM - Mike Kelly: see ya
Jul 20, 2015 1:22 PM - Mike Kelly: well looks like i have the potential to be on 2 patents now
Jul 20, 2015 1:24 PM - Stephen Capistron: That is fun
Jul 20, 2015 1:24 PM - Mike Kelly: agreed
Jul 20, 2015 1:24 PM - Mike Kelly: i hope i get them, would be a nice boost
Jul 20, 2015 1:24 PM - daniel871: I need to think up a patent idea that will actually make some money/isn't already patented.
Jul 20, 2015 1:25 PM - daniel871: The problem there is that unless it's weirdly specific, the patent for it already exists.
Jul 20, 2015 1:25 PM - Stephen Capistron: I just got my quarterly royalty check
Jul 20, 2015 1:25 PM - Mike Kelly: that's exactly what my patent is
Jul 20, 2015 1:25 PM - Mike Kelly: creating propelene
Jul 20, 2015 1:25 PM - Mike Kelly: from proponal
Jul 20, 2015 1:26 PM - Stephen Capistron: Of course that check is only $36
Jul 20, 2015 1:26 PM - Mike Kelly: highly doubt my patents will ever be worth something
Jul 20, 2015 1:27 PM - daniel871: Did anybody else see that hilarious ATF/Patent office correspondence with the guy that built a gatling gun that was operated by putting a rodent into a wheel and making it run?
Jul 20, 2015 1:28 PM - daniel871: Rodent starts running -> Gun starts firing -> Rodent gets scared and runs faster -> Gun fires faster.

 

Jul 20, 2015 1:28 PM - Stephen Capistron: Propanol is one more carbon than butanol?
Jul 20, 2015 1:33 PM - Mike Kelly: right
Jul 20, 2015 1:33 PM - Mike Kelly: the chemists were doing the butanol work
Jul 20, 2015 1:33 PM - Mike Kelly: i was working with a lot of heavier stuff
Jul 20, 2015 1:34 PM - Mike Kelly: i think the other patent is on the conversion of Dehydroacetic Acid into drop in gasoline essentially
Jul 20, 2015 1:34 PM - Mike Glass: look a bridge.
Jul 20, 2015 1:35 PM - Mike Kelly: ouch
Jul 20, 2015 1:35 PM - Mike Glass: I thinks somebody dropped it or something cause the end is trashed.
Jul 20, 2015 1:35 PM - Mike Kelly: can you also snap a picture of the end
Jul 20, 2015 1:35 PM - Mike Kelly: fwding these to jerry
Jul 20, 2015 1:38 PM - jbigler1986: WTF
Jul 20, 2015 1:38 PM - Mike Glass:
Jul 20, 2015 1:39 PM - Mike Glass: just me and my luck with robo parts.
Jul 20, 2015 1:40 PM - Harry: hmmm.....sorry about that Mike. Just told Jerry and he's going to take a look
Jul 20, 2015 1:43 PM - Mike Kelly: https://blog.adafruit.com/2015/07/14/from-the-forums-light-painting-with-neopixels-arttuesday/ this is awesome
Jul 20, 2015 1:43 PM - Mike Glass: Hopefully its just a freak thing
Jul 20, 2015 1:43 PM - Mike Kelly: agreed
Jul 20, 2015 1:44 PM - Mike Glass: but they needed to be packaged better, specially with Fedex.
Jul 20, 2015 1:45 PM - Mike Kelly: was the box damaged
Jul 20, 2015 1:45 PM - Mike Glass: No, not at all, they were just kinda loose in the box
Jul 20, 2015 1:46 PM - Mike Kelly: right i know what you mean
Jul 20, 2015 1:47 PM - daniel871: The three or four people that already got theirs that were missing the other parts need to post in the leadscrew thread about it.
Jul 20, 2015 1:48 PM - daniel871: Mine should be coming in tomorrow, hopefully everything is alright with them.
Jul 20, 2015 1:48 PM - Harry: ah ok
Jul 20, 2015 1:48 PM - Harry: that could be my fault
Jul 20, 2015 1:49 PM - Harry: we are shipping those 5 people who did not get brackets the brackets
Jul 20, 2015 1:49 PM - Harry: hey may have just left actually
Jul 20, 2015 1:49 PM - Harry: So no need to post about it
Jul 20, 2015 1:50 PM - daniel871: The guide for doing the upgrade could use a "make sure all of these parts came in" check list and a "contact Robo support if any of these parts are missing before beginning the upgrade" page.
Jul 20, 2015 1:50 PM - daniel871: There was someone in the shoutbox earlier today that was livid when they found out those parts were missing when they got to step 13 or 14.
Jul 20, 2015 1:52 PM - Mike Kelly: was that aaron?
Jul 20, 2015 1:52 PM - daniel871: Aaron or Austin, I'm not 100% sure, they were both talking about it at the same time with different issues.
Jul 20, 2015 1:54 PM - daniel871: Also something about the order of operations being a little cumbersome with removal of the case cover being later than they thought it should be once the steppers were mounted and plugged in.
Jul 20, 2015 2:02 PM - donhuevo: that was aaron
Jul 20, 2015 2:06 PM - Mike Glass: Hey don how bout something like this https://www.youmagine.com/designs/extended-active-cooling-duct-nozzle
Jul 20, 2015 2:09 PM - donhuevo: from the guy with the evil grin
Jul 20, 2015 2:09 PM - Bart Herbek: I am trying to hook up the LCD XXL Controler, and in the youtube video it seems to snap right on, but on mine, (probably a new version) there is what looks to be a min SD card reader pluged in, Do I need to unplug that to hook up my LCD?
Jul 20, 2015 2:10 PM - Mike Glass: yes sir
Jul 20, 2015 2:10 PM - donhuevo: yep.
Jul 20, 2015 2:10 PM - Mike Kelly: ding ding ding
Jul 20, 2015 2:10 PM - donhuevo: no need for two sd card readers
Jul 20, 2015 2:10 PM - Bart Herbek: Alright Thank you very much
Jul 20, 2015 2:10 PM - donhuevo: one's too many
Jul 20, 2015 2:11 PM - Bart Herbek: the vid I saw must be of an older version with out an SD card reader
Jul 20, 2015 2:12 PM - donhuevo: sounds right
Jul 20, 2015 2:13 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah barnacules' video doesn't show that
Jul 20, 2015 2:14 PM - donhuevo: and mg, I don't like that the donut duct is blowing toward the nozzle. if you go thru the trouble of getting that close, why not blow away from it
Jul 20, 2015 2:15 PM - Mike Kelly: just design it to not blow at the nozzle
Jul 20, 2015 2:16 PM - donhuevo: that's my plan
Jul 20, 2015 2:17 PM - Mike Kelly: you can do it with a donut
Jul 20, 2015 2:17 PM - donhuevo: just maybe more cruller-shaped
Jul 20, 2015 2:17 PM - donhuevo: or eclair
Jul 20, 2015 2:18 PM - Mike Kelly: lol
Jul 20, 2015 2:18 PM - Mike Glass: haha
Jul 20, 2015 2:19 PM - donhuevo: stop it. the shape of my dict is no laughing matter
Jul 20, 2015 2:19 PM - Mike Kelly: girls love don's dict shape
Jul 20, 2015 2:19 PM - Mike Kelly: especially the eclair one
Jul 20, 2015 2:20 PM - donhuevo: I'm staring at a micro servo right now trying to figure out if I can fit it or not
Jul 20, 2015 2:20 PM - Mike Kelly: on your carriage?
Jul 20, 2015 2:20 PM - donhuevo: yep
Jul 20, 2015 2:21 PM - Mike Kelly: to do what?
Jul 20, 2015 2:22 PM - Mike Glass: wave the confederate flag?
Jul 20, 2015 2:22 PM - Mike Kelly: he doesn't live in scar
Jul 20, 2015 2:22 PM - donhuevo: so my carriage can stick out it's probe
Jul 20, 2015 2:22 PM - Mike Kelly: solenoids my good man
Jul 20, 2015 2:23 PM - donhuevo: I stared at that little solenoid and it just didn't have enough throw for me
Jul 20, 2015 3:44 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Well, looks like they got my clips in the mail, and......WTF...whoah...just went back to catch up...
Jul 20, 2015 3:54 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Looking (again) at the instructions for installing these lead screws, and there is really no need to remove the cover from the printer, if you have already gotten past step 13...The hardest thing to get to are the screws holding the steppers in...

 

Jul 20, 2015 5:23 PM - daniel871: Ran pid tuning on the nozzle and bed, then put the zebra playe back on.
Jul 20, 2015 5:23 PM - daniel871: Plate
Jul 20, 2015 5:24 PM - daniel871: Things heat up and go much faster now.
Jul 20, 2015 5:24 PM - Mike Kelly: nice right?
Jul 20, 2015 5:25 PM - daniel871: Hell yes.
Jul 20, 2015 5:25 PM - daniel871: Also feeling vindicated in Waldo's firmware thread, I wasnt crazy about the firmware ignoring z probing offset values.
Jul 20, 2015 5:26 PM - daniel871: Waldo was baby stepping all the time so he wasnt seeing it, I think.
Jul 20, 2015 5:43 PM - Stephen Capistron: Save the receipts
Jul 20, 2015 5:46 PM - jbigler1986: For sure
Jul 20, 2015 6:33 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Hey guys, I have the LCD XXL setup...feet on..lead screws installed and everything back together
Jul 20, 2015 6:33 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Trying to update firmware...
Jul 20, 2015 6:33 PM - Bill Monroe: nice
Jul 20, 2015 6:34 PM - Aaron Mitchell: In the new firmware folder, there is no "arduino mega" file...which file gets updated to the firmware?
Jul 20, 2015 6:34 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Also, nothing named leadscrew, etc...
Jul 20, 2015 6:35 PM - Aaron Mitchell: I guess its the ROBO3DR1PLUSV1 file...only .ino file that I see...
Jul 20, 2015 6:40 PM - Bill Monroe: its been awhile since I did mine..
Jul 20, 2015 6:47 PM - Mike Glass: should be able to import the .ino file as a sketchbook
Jul 20, 2015 6:47 PM - Bill Monroe: actually, I dont recall having to make any firmware changes, it seemed the panel was enabled by default
Jul 20, 2015 6:47 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Yeah, that is default filetype for Arduino IDE...I am preparing to write the files now...I'll let you know
Jul 20, 2015 6:48 PM - Stephen Capistron: I wouldn't bother uploading the latest robo firmware, just change the z steps in your current one and move on
Jul 20, 2015 6:48 PM - Mike Glass: for the lead screws Bill, is what he is referring to.
Jul 20, 2015 6:48 PM - Bill Monroe: oh, thought we were talking about the XXL
Jul 20, 2015 6:48 PM - Mike Glass: is it even correct?
Jul 20, 2015 6:49 PM - Mike Glass: no xxl shouldn't have to change, if you have full graphics you do have to change a few lines.
Jul 20, 2015 6:49 PM - Aaron Mitchell: I downloaded the firmware specifically for the new screws
Jul 20, 2015 6:49 PM - Bill Monroe: I agree with SC.. if the firmware was already working before, just change the Esteps
Jul 20, 2015 6:50 PM - Mike Glass: There was debate wether the firmware was correct.
Jul 20, 2015 6:50 PM - Bill Monroe: no sense it throwing more variables into the mix
Jul 20, 2015 6:50 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Now ya tell me
Jul 20, 2015 6:50 PM - Mike Glass: I dont think he flased his so he still needs a base file.
Jul 20, 2015 6:51 PM - Aaron Mitchell: It's done...
Jul 20, 2015 6:51 PM - Aaron Mitchell: I have original firmware if I have to go back
Jul 20, 2015 6:51 PM - daniel871: Hey, what is a good accelleration value for the Wade extruder to limit the hobbed gear stripping PLA filament?
Jul 20, 2015 6:51 PM - daniel871: hobbed bolt rather.
Jul 20, 2015 6:51 PM - Mike Glass: 400?
Jul 20, 2015 6:51 PM - daniel871: Anything that has some retractions close together ends up stripping.
Jul 20, 2015 6:52 PM - Stephen Capistron: Just open the original and change your z steps
Jul 20, 2015 6:52 PM - daniel871: Like the LCD front and back for the swivel..
Jul 20, 2015 6:52 PM - Stephen Capistron: 2500
Jul 20, 2015 6:52 PM - Aaron Mitchell: 1600
Jul 20, 2015 6:53 PM - Mike Glass: 10000000
Jul 20, 2015 6:53 PM - Aaron Mitchell: ≤
Jul 20, 2015 6:53 PM - Stephen Capistron: I think the default e acceleration is 4000 and 3500 for retraction, just knock that down a little
Jul 20, 2015 6:54 PM - Stephen Capistron: Heh, cross posting with Daniel.
Jul 20, 2015 6:54 PM - Stephen Capistron: Aaron, I'd set it to 1600 and print a simple cube
Jul 20, 2015 6:55 PM - daniel871: Currently at 1000 and it strips.
Jul 20, 2015 6:55 PM - Stephen Capistron: Or better yet G28 and then G1 Z10 and measure how far the head moved
Jul 20, 2015 6:55 PM - daniel871: For default, max is 8000
Jul 20, 2015 6:56 PM - Stephen Capistron: There is a separate retraction acceleration
Jul 20, 2015 6:58 PM - Mike Glass: think I will wait on my leadscrews till I get the new fan replacement for the PSU. hopefully a new leadscrew will be here by then also.
Jul 20, 2015 7:09 PM - Mike Kelly: alright what should i print to test the lead screws
Jul 20, 2015 7:10 PM - Mike Glass: squirrel
Jul 20, 2015 7:12 PM - jbigler1986: Kids and i are at grandmas
Jul 20, 2015 7:13 PM - jbigler1986: Have yet to hear 1 word since 3. Oh well
Jul 20, 2015 7:14 PM - jbigler1986: Ooooh. Something that gave you trouble before MK
Jul 20, 2015 7:15 PM - Mike Glass: how rude
Jul 20, 2015 7:18 PM - Mike Kelly: it's boring but i'm gonna print the Z resonance test first
Jul 20, 2015 7:18 PM - jbigler1986: Booooo. Jk
Jul 20, 2015 7:21 PM - Mike Kelly: if simplify3d would let me print....
Jul 20, 2015 7:22 PM - jbigler1986: SD card bro
Jul 20, 2015 7:22 PM - jbigler1986: Put a lcd on that bad boy
Jul 20, 2015 7:23 PM - Mike Kelly: Yeah that's the next mod
Jul 20, 2015 7:30 PM - jbigler1986: Going full graphics or xxl
Jul 20, 2015 7:34 PM - Mike Kelly: full
Jul 20, 2015 7:34 PM - Mike Kelly: so i'll need to create the firmware
Jul 20, 2015 7:35 PM - jbigler1986: Yeah. Just 2 edits. I think you can handle it
Jul 20, 2015 7:35 PM - jbigler1986: What all did i order? I totally dont remember
Jul 20, 2015 7:35 PM - Mike Kelly: what's the package you download called
Jul 20, 2015 7:36 PM - Mike Kelly: it's in the pm
Jul 20, 2015 7:37 PM - daniel871: Ugh. Why are the PET/tglase type filaments so easy for my robo while PLA cannot finish a print without the hob stripping out? Reducing the retraction acceleration to 500 did nothing.
Jul 20, 2015 7:37 PM - Mike Kelly: PLA isn't as easy to print as it's made out to be
Jul 20, 2015 7:38 PM - jbigler1986: Ugl8......

 

Jul 20, 2015 7:38 PM - Mike Glass: what is failing daniel?
Jul 20, 2015 7:39 PM - daniel871: LCD front cover, of all things.
Jul 20, 2015 7:40 PM - Mike Glass: hmm, I did it with abs, not with pla, to hot?
Jul 20, 2015 7:40 PM - Mike Kelly: what sucks though is i think i threw away the old z resonance test from the R1.6
Jul 20, 2015 7:40 PM - Mike Kelly: which will henceforth be known as R1.7
Jul 20, 2015 7:40 PM - daniel871: Gets the first few layers down, but strips out as it builds up where the speaker holes are.
Jul 20, 2015 7:40 PM - Mike Glass: turn retraction off
Jul 20, 2015 7:41 PM - daniel871:
Jul 20, 2015 7:41 PM - Mike Glass: sure you will get some strings but it will print fine.
Jul 20, 2015 7:42 PM - Mike Glass: whens the last time you cleaned your hob.
Jul 20, 2015 7:42 PM - daniel871: Last strip out.
Jul 20, 2015 7:42 PM - jbigler1986: U8glib_arduino_v1.15
Jul 20, 2015 7:42 PM - jbigler1986: Pretty sure thats it MK
Jul 20, 2015 7:42 PM - Mike Glass: I use a razor blade and scrape out each line.
Jul 20, 2015 7:43 PM - Mike Glass: then run denatured alcohol with a q-tip
Jul 20, 2015 7:43 PM - Mike Kelly: wow this makes me feel dumb
Jul 20, 2015 7:43 PM - Mike Glass: also try seasoning
Jul 20, 2015 7:44 PM - Mike Kelly: ok found it geez
Jul 20, 2015 7:44 PM - Mike Kelly: they're on 18 now i guess
Jul 20, 2015 7:44 PM - daniel871: Ugh, seasoning. That means put on a new nozzle, right?
Jul 20, 2015 7:45 PM - jbigler1986: No
Jul 20, 2015 7:45 PM - Mike Kelly: eh?
Jul 20, 2015 7:45 PM - Mike Kelly: no
Jul 20, 2015 7:45 PM - Mike Glass: nope just take a piece of filament dip it oil
Jul 20, 2015 7:45 PM - Mike Glass: heat up your hotend to like 240 first
Jul 20, 2015 7:46 PM - Mike Glass: I use virgin olive oil,
Jul 20, 2015 7:46 PM - daniel871: I have some Canola
Jul 20, 2015 7:46 PM - Mike Glass: yea even better
Jul 20, 2015 7:47 PM - jbigler1986: Avacodo oil
Jul 20, 2015 7:47 PM - daniel871: Hell I even printed that in line oiler thing. Bah.
Jul 20, 2015 7:47 PM - daniel871: A while back.
Jul 20, 2015 7:47 PM - jbigler1986: Olive oil has to low of a smoke point for my liking
Jul 20, 2015 7:48 PM - Mike Glass: I would never run it all the time. the olive oil I have does not do that for some reason JB, works perfect too.
Jul 20, 2015 7:48 PM - Mike Kelly: i have some theories on why it doesn't smoke but i don't know for certain
Jul 20, 2015 7:48 PM - daniel871: The inline thing is more for dusting and a couple drops of oil every few prints I think.
Jul 20, 2015 7:49 PM - Mike Kelly: exactly
Jul 20, 2015 7:49 PM - Mike Kelly: it's just a tiny bit of oil and catches crap
Jul 20, 2015 7:49 PM - Mike Kelly: it's kinda nasty how dirty it gets
Jul 20, 2015 7:50 PM - Mike Glass: true but i dont trust it specially laying a first layer down, just my opinion.
Jul 20, 2015 7:50 PM - jbigler1986: Yeah i put to much in my oiler at first. Had a layer of oil on my bed. Part didnt even remotely stick
Jul 20, 2015 7:50 PM - daniel871: Probably just end up being a line duster after seasoning.
Jul 20, 2015 7:51 PM - Mike Glass: I just use a dry cloth and seems to work fine in an oiler
Jul 20, 2015 7:51 PM - daniel871: Wonder how the long volcano zone will like seasoning.
Jul 20, 2015 7:52 PM - jbigler1986: Yeah i just season the hotend every once in a while
Jul 20, 2015 7:52 PM - Mike Glass: every 3 months or so seems to work for me
Jul 20, 2015 7:53 PM - daniel871: So coat a short bit of filament and do the seasoning thing, then try again. Got it.
Jul 20, 2015 7:53 PM - Mike Glass: probably every roll used up would be a good rule.
Jul 20, 2015 7:53 PM - Mike Kelly: bah gonna test the LCD but i don't have a cord for some reason
Jul 20, 2015 7:54 PM - Mike Glass: yep do it 3 or 4 times.
Jul 20, 2015 7:57 PM - jbigler1986: Is that how long it takes you?
Jul 20, 2015 8:00 PM - jbigler1986: Ribbon cables MK?
Jul 20, 2015 8:01 PM - Mike Kelly: oh no a usb cable for my arduino
Jul 20, 2015 8:01 PM - Mike Kelly: i grabbed one
Jul 20, 2015 8:01 PM - Mike Kelly: and there it is
Jul 20, 2015 8:01 PM - Mike Kelly: neato
Jul 20, 2015 8:03 PM - Mike Kelly: the buzzer on this one is real bad
Jul 20, 2015 8:04 PM - Mike Glass: I replaced mine with a 12" woofer
Jul 20, 2015 8:04 PM - Mike Kelly: lol
Jul 20, 2015 8:05 PM - jbigler1986: Ha.
Jul 20, 2015 8:05 PM - Mike Kelly: think a squirrel would look good in translucent orange
Jul 20, 2015 8:05 PM - Mike Glass: they do sound a little sick
Jul 20, 2015 8:05 PM - Mike Glass: Oh you have some of that? yeah
Jul 20, 2015 8:06 PM - Aaron Mitchell: yOU KNITTING SWEATERS FOR SQUIRRELS?
Jul 20, 2015 8:06 PM - Aaron Mitchell: gah...caps lock
Jul 20, 2015 8:06 PM - Aaron Mitchell: What's up fellas?
Jul 20, 2015 8:06 PM - Mike Glass: Hey you printing Aaron?
Jul 20, 2015 8:07 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Not at the moment...need to do a practice print to test new rods though
Jul 20, 2015 8:07 PM - Aaron Mitchell: What's up?
Jul 20, 2015 8:08 PM - Mike Glass: dang it really want to put mine in
Jul 20, 2015 8:08 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Did they get new ones shipped to you?
Jul 20, 2015 8:08 PM - Mike Kelly: i'm gonna try a 0% infill squirrel with like 5 shells
Jul 20, 2015 8:08 PM - Mike Glass: I got 4 so two good ones at least
Jul 20, 2015 8:09 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Why not put them in?
Jul 20, 2015 8:09 PM - Mike Glass: that is the reason I got 4
Jul 20, 2015 8:09 PM - Mike Kelly: crap i only have a month to finish my brothers squirrel chess set
Jul 20, 2015 8:09 PM - Aaron Mitchell: They have my clips in the mail...
Jul 20, 2015 8:09 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Two pieces a day MK
Jul 20, 2015 8:10 PM - Mike Glass: I need to replace the psu fan also so do it all in one shot, plus I want to go through all the screws and tighten, thinking about printing new z rod stabilizer rod holders also.
Jul 20, 2015 8:10 PM - Aaron Mitchell: You making the squirrel set or downloading it from somewhere?
Jul 20, 2015 8:10 PM - Mike Kelly: i have them all printed, minus the rooks
Jul 20, 2015 8:11 PM - Mike Kelly: downloaded from thingiverse
Jul 20, 2015 8:11 PM - Mike Kelly: i sanded them down and am gona vapor polish
Jul 20, 2015 8:11 PM - Mike Kelly: need to make the board
Jul 20, 2015 8:11 PM - Aaron Mitchell: I will check it out...wanted to print a set myself...
Jul 20, 2015 8:11 PM - Mike Kelly: pretty sure it's just called squirrel chess set
Jul 20, 2015 8:11 PM - Aaron Mitchell: What is vapor polishing? I am assuming it is for PLA?
Jul 20, 2015 8:11 PM - Mike Kelly: i scaled them down because they're kinda huge
Jul 20, 2015 8:11 PM - Mike Glass: ABS
Jul 20, 2015 8:11 PM - Mike Kelly: it's for ABS
Jul 20, 2015 8:11 PM - Aaron Mitchell: How does it work?
Jul 20, 2015 8:12 PM - Mike Glass: its like huffing paint
Jul 20, 2015 8:12 PM - Mike Kelly: you use a solvent, Acetone, to melt the outer layer of the plastic to blur the layer lines and cause it to become smooth and shiney
Jul 20, 2015 8:12 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Always wanted to know a good method to smooth over ABS
Jul 20, 2015 8:12 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Ahh...
Jul 20, 2015 8:12 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Slurry rub
Jul 20, 2015 8:12 PM - Mike Kelly: they also do it with injection molded products
Jul 20, 2015 8:12 PM - Mike Kelly: to get a shiny surface after molding
Jul 20, 2015 8:12 PM - Aaron Mitchell: OK...I just called it something different
Jul 20, 2015 8:12 PM - Mike Glass: not a rub
Jul 20, 2015 8:13 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah it's a vapor

 

Jul 20, 2015 8:13 PM - Mike Kelly: you heat the solvent
Jul 20, 2015 8:13 PM - Aaron Mitchell: You don't wipe down the part with acetone?
Jul 20, 2015 8:13 PM - Mike Glass: no
Jul 20, 2015 8:13 PM - Mike Glass: you could
Jul 20, 2015 8:13 PM - Aaron Mitchell: ahh...under a covered container?
Jul 20, 2015 8:13 PM - Mike Glass: but not as purdy
Jul 20, 2015 8:13 PM - Mike Kelly: you want a gradual melt, liquid is too strong
Jul 20, 2015 8:13 PM - jbigler1986: Did you find out the psu fan size
Jul 20, 2015 8:14 PM - Mike Kelly: you can either do it hot vapor
Jul 20, 2015 8:14 PM - Mike Glass: I guestimated
Jul 20, 2015 8:14 PM - Mike Kelly: it's a 60mm
Jul 20, 2015 8:14 PM - Mike Glass: the width anyway
Jul 20, 2015 8:14 PM - Mike Kelly: i use a steamer and turn it on warm
Jul 20, 2015 8:14 PM - Mike Kelly: which heats up the liquid acetone turning into a vapor and smooths the part
Jul 20, 2015 8:14 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Like a food steamer?
Jul 20, 2015 8:14 PM - Mike Kelly: right exactly
Jul 20, 2015 8:14 PM - Aaron Mitchell: nice...you guys are so smot
Jul 20, 2015 8:15 PM - Mike Glass: a tea light works good too in a double coffee can.
Jul 20, 2015 8:15 PM - Aaron Mitchell: like a double-boiler
Jul 20, 2015 8:15 PM - Mike Glass: but do it outside....
Jul 20, 2015 8:15 PM - Aaron Mitchell: without the part down in the liquid
Jul 20, 2015 8:15 PM - Mike Glass: it will kill you dead
Jul 20, 2015 8:15 PM - Aaron Mitchell: right...
Jul 20, 2015 8:15 PM - Aaron Mitchell: D-E-D dead
Jul 20, 2015 8:15 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah generally best to stick with electric
Jul 20, 2015 8:15 PM - Mike Kelly: i lit the vapor one time to experimentr
Jul 20, 2015 8:16 PM - Mike Glass: come on, open flame is great with flamables
Jul 20, 2015 8:16 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Don't have to experiment to know what happens when acetone is lit...heheehh
Jul 20, 2015 8:16 PM - Mike Kelly: pretty easy to put out by just covering it with a lid and turning off the heat
Jul 20, 2015 8:16 PM - Mike Kelly: but yeah
Jul 20, 2015 8:16 PM - Mike Kelly: you can also do what's called cold vapor polishing
Jul 20, 2015 8:16 PM - Mike Kelly: by damping paper towels in acetone
Jul 20, 2015 8:16 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Yeah..I teach fire prevention the first week of school before I let kids in my shop
Jul 20, 2015 8:16 PM - Mike Kelly: then attaching them to the inside of a vessel, say a paint can
Jul 20, 2015 8:17 PM - Mike Kelly: place the object inside and seal it for like a week
Jul 20, 2015 8:17 PM - Mike Glass: I have a gallon of MEK also you can use that on pla.
Jul 20, 2015 8:17 PM - Mike Kelly: it'll gradually polish and get a very slick smooth surface
Jul 20, 2015 8:17 PM - Aaron Mitchell: How long do you let the parts sit in warm vapor?
Jul 20, 2015 8:17 PM - Mike Kelly: will take a few days to harden back up when exposed again to atmosphere
Jul 20, 2015 8:17 PM - Mike Kelly: like 30 seconds
Jul 20, 2015 8:17 PM - Mike Glass: yea I tried that in the winter so if its too cold it dont work
Jul 20, 2015 8:17 PM - Aaron Mitchell: wow...
Jul 20, 2015 8:18 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Not an issue where I live
Jul 20, 2015 8:18 PM - Aaron Mitchell: (cold)
Jul 20, 2015 8:18 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Gets cold here 3-4 days out of the year
Jul 20, 2015 8:18 PM - Mike Kelly: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002JM202I?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
Jul 20, 2015 8:18 PM - Mike Kelly: this is what i got
Jul 20, 2015 8:18 PM - Mike Kelly: used to have prime and was i think 25
Jul 20, 2015 8:18 PM - Aaron Mitchell: fry daddy
Jul 20, 2015 8:19 PM - Mike Kelly: 28.92
Jul 20, 2015 8:19 PM - Aaron Mitchell: I will certainly give that a shot...especially when I start the chess set...
Jul 20, 2015 8:19 PM - Mike Kelly: i want to upgrade it to use a better controller
Jul 20, 2015 8:19 PM - Mike Kelly: bang bang is not ideal for heating acetone
Jul 20, 2015 8:19 PM - Mike Glass: you dont have prime anymore?
Jul 20, 2015 8:19 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Use an arduino...
Jul 20, 2015 8:19 PM - Mike Kelly: causes it to get too much energy and boil
Jul 20, 2015 8:19 PM - Mike Kelly: mike, the steamer not me
Jul 20, 2015 8:20 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah it's mostly just lack of effort
Jul 20, 2015 8:20 PM - Mike Glass: oh ..lol
Jul 20, 2015 8:20 PM - Mike Kelly: i use it so rarely it's kinda w/e
Jul 20, 2015 8:21 PM - Mike Glass: Rice cookers work well also
Jul 20, 2015 8:21 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Going to work on OctoPi this week...I also designed a new side mount for holding tools,etc that hangs on the robo like the original filament spool, going to print that tomorrow, check it for fit then post to Thingiverse...
Jul 20, 2015 8:22 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Rice cookers probably have a tighter fitting cover...
Jul 20, 2015 8:22 PM - Mike Kelly: good idea
Jul 20, 2015 8:22 PM - Aaron Mitchell: I was thinking vegetable steamer but a lot of those have plastic covers
Jul 20, 2015 8:23 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah like a genius i totally melted the ultrasonic i bough
Jul 20, 2015 8:23 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Yeah, the side mount I have will use a uuniversal clip to hang different attachments on the robo with no hardware needed...
Jul 20, 2015 8:23 PM - Aaron Mitchell: I'll show you a preview
Jul 20, 2015 8:27 PM - Aaron Mitchell:
Jul 20, 2015 8:28 PM - Aaron Mitchell: I am maiking different fittings that will slide into the clip for different tools, etc...
Jul 20, 2015 8:29 PM - Aaron Mitchell: The clip sits at a 45° angle so that the slide is perpendicular to the ground...that picture is lop-sided
Jul 20, 2015 8:30 PM - Mike Glass: Hey mike If I print you existing robo feet with the mount will your design for the full graphics lcd work for it.
Jul 20, 2015 8:41 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah
Jul 20, 2015 8:41 PM - Mike Kelly: also god dammit, i still had ribbing
Jul 20, 2015 8:41 PM - Mike Kelly: the right lead screw is misbehaving
Jul 20, 2015 8:43 PM - Mike Glass: thats effed up
Jul 20, 2015 8:44 PM - Mike Kelly: i was apparently able to compress my x axis so when i did that i realigned the steppers
Jul 20, 2015 8:44 PM - Mike Kelly: trying again
Jul 20, 2015 8:51 PM - Mike Glass: going to print the feet in smoke
Jul 20, 2015 8:55 PM - Mike Kelly: sweet

 

Jul 20, 2015 9:08 PM - Aaron Mitchell:
Jul 20, 2015 9:08 PM - Aaron Mitchell:
Jul 20, 2015 9:09 PM - Mike Glass: nice
Jul 20, 2015 9:10 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Z-steps on LCD (new firmware) says 800 steps/mm...I thought you said 1600?
Jul 20, 2015 11:01 PM - BryZad: anyone up ?
Jul 21, 2015 4:24 AM - Bill Monroe: good morning
Jul 21, 2015 4:27 AM - WheresWaldo: Good morning everyone.
Jul 21, 2015 4:28 AM - Bill Monroe: Waldo
Jul 21, 2015 4:29 AM - Aaron Mitchell: morning
Jul 21, 2015 4:29 AM - Bill Monroe: Aaron
Jul 21, 2015 4:30 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Morning, Bill...how goes it
Jul 21, 2015 4:30 AM - Bill Monroe: pretty good you?
Jul 21, 2015 4:31 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Doing well...getting ready for a test print with the new lead screws...
Jul 21, 2015 4:32 AM - WheresWaldo: I am sure you will tell us the results of your test?
Jul 21, 2015 4:33 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Yes...I will throw up some pics...
Jul 21, 2015 4:33 AM - Aaron Mitchell: YOu guys will be the first to know if I have issues
Jul 21, 2015 4:33 AM - WheresWaldo: Anything interesting or something you have already done in the past?
Jul 21, 2015 4:34 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Probably just a test cube for now...still gotta check my Z-steps...I am sure Mike told me to use 1600, but the new firmware for the lead screws is set at 800...
Jul 21, 2015 4:35 AM - Bill Monroe: 1600 is way too much
Jul 21, 2015 4:36 AM - Aaron Mitchell: It is a 2mm pitch on the threads...
Jul 21, 2015 4:36 AM - Aaron Mitchell: The old screws were 2560...
Jul 21, 2015 4:36 AM - Aaron Mitchell: So I gotta look it up
Jul 21, 2015 4:39 AM - WheresWaldo: But the 8 mm threaded rod has much finer threads than the Tr8 rod used in the upgrade, hence the need for a much lower number.
Jul 21, 2015 4:40 AM - Bill Monroe: i've forgotten which file the steps are in
Jul 21, 2015 4:41 AM - daniel871: Configuration.h?
Jul 21, 2015 4:42 AM - daniel871: Oh my god some of the questions being posted lately.
Jul 21, 2015 4:42 AM - daniel871: "Does my extruder really need the nozzle?
Jul 21, 2015 4:42 AM - Bill Monroe: is that a guess or?
Jul 21, 2015 4:42 AM - daniel871:
Jul 21, 2015 4:42 AM - daniel871: No, that's the file it's in.
Jul 21, 2015 4:42 AM - Aaron Mitchell: I am looking at that file now Daniel...Thanks :
Jul 21, 2015 4:42 AM - Aaron Mitchell:
Jul 21, 2015 4:43 AM - daniel871: Pretty much everything that gets adjusted is in there.
Jul 21, 2015 4:44 AM - Aaron Mitchell: So many spelling mistakes in this code...sheesh
Jul 21, 2015 4:44 AM - daniel871: Bed level locations, minimum extruder temp to allow extrusion, acceleration numbers, motor step values (which are right above the acceleration numbers if you want to do a "Find" search for "accel" by the way).
Jul 21, 2015 4:44 AM - Aaron Mitchell: (sorry...I'm a teacher....)
Jul 21, 2015 4:45 AM - daniel871: Careful, if it isn't commented out those spelling mistakes may just be a limitation of the coding.
Jul 21, 2015 4:45 AM - Bill Monroe: my steps for Z is 400
Jul 21, 2015 4:45 AM - Bill Monroe: but I dont have Robos screws
Jul 21, 2015 4:45 AM - daniel871: But what is the threaded rod you use?
Jul 21, 2015 4:45 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Yes...I know ...I am a computer engineer by trade and specialize in embedded hardware/software
Jul 21, 2015 4:46 AM - WheresWaldo: Hey daniel, you saw my post on 1.0.3 to Ziggy
Jul 21, 2015 4:46 AM - daniel871: Yeah. My "I Knew It!' was more about the offset value needing to be positive instead of negative.
Jul 21, 2015 4:47 AM - daniel871: Because changing the negative just made it dig into the Zebra plate harder.
Jul 21, 2015 4:47 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Found it...new firmware sets it to 800...hmm
Jul 21, 2015 4:48 AM - daniel871: I figure I'll give the custom firmware a try again after I finish installing all of the hardware I've got to assemble.
Jul 21, 2015 4:48 AM - daniel871: So it'll be Waldo's firmware and dual extruding.
Jul 21, 2015 4:48 AM - WheresWaldo: Yeah, I wrote a very long diatribe on the GIT site for Marlin, explaining that things shouldn't change from patch to patch without documentation, along with a bunch of other stuff. I tried to be diplomatic, we'll see how they respond.
Jul 21, 2015 4:48 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Amen, Waldo...
Jul 21, 2015 4:49 AM - Bill Monroe: it's the Maker community.. professionalism isnt understood
Jul 21, 2015 4:49 AM - daniel871: After I figure out what all I need to change in your firmware to make dual extruding work with the fan extender.
Jul 21, 2015 4:49 AM - daniel871: I know Board 34 instead of 33, and some pin values change.
Jul 21, 2015 4:49 AM - daniel871: Also re-running PID tuning after all is said and done just to make sure.
Jul 21, 2015 4:50 AM - daniel871: Did that last night and my Robo heated up and started a lot more smoothly.
Jul 21, 2015 4:50 AM - daniel871: Bed definitely heated up more rapidly anyway.
Jul 21, 2015 4:50 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Here is the line BTW found in congfiguration.h: #define DEFAULT_AXIS_STEPS_PER_UNIT {80,80,800,723.38} // default steps per unit for RoBo 3D R1
Jul 21, 2015 4:50 AM - WheresWaldo: Shouldn't be hard, most of the work done was for internal routines, and I think dual extruders is pretty well documented. Pins are now broken out to separate files, not just pin.h
Jul 21, 2015 4:51 AM - daniel871: I may be posting a lot in your firmware thread as I figure stuff out.
Jul 21, 2015 4:51 AM - daniel871: Like a Dual-Extruding Firmware and details on exactly how I'm set up with what printed parts and motors and such.
Jul 21, 2015 4:52 AM - WheresWaldo: I think PID tuning should be part of the calibration process as a best practice, especially since Robo only took the default settings for Ultimaker.
Jul 21, 2015 4:52 AM - jbigler1986: morning
Jul 21, 2015 4:52 AM - Bill Monroe: jb
Jul 21, 2015 4:52 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Morning, JB...
Jul 21, 2015 4:53 AM - daniel871: Yeah, I was surprised how far off the bed PID was compared to the actual tuning feedback.
Jul 21, 2015 4:53 AM - daniel871: P & I were way too fucking low.
Jul 21, 2015 4:53 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Haha...I just found Waldo's DIFF post on the firmware...
Jul 21, 2015 4:54 AM - daniel871: The nozzle PID didn't change all that much, but I went ahead and updated it anyway.
Jul 21, 2015 4:54 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Should have looked there first...
Jul 21, 2015 4:54 AM - WheresWaldo: PID tuning provides two benefits, faster heat up as well as more precise control of overshoot or undershoot.
Jul 21, 2015 4:54 AM - daniel871: Got a link?
Jul 21, 2015 4:54 AM - daniel871: I like to read weirdly specific rants.
Jul 21, 2015 4:55 AM - daniel871: That "extruder drags thru print" guy sounds like a whole lot of things aren't set up properly.
Jul 21, 2015 4:55 AM - daniel871: retraction values could be off, flow value could be too high, all kinds of things could cause that.
Jul 21, 2015 4:56 AM - WheresWaldo: My rant isn't that special, it was mostly about accuracy
Jul 21, 2015 4:57 AM - WheresWaldo: Sometimes it is hard to help people when they think everything is broken. Sometimes you want to suggest they return their Robo and move on to something else, but in a nice way!
Jul 21, 2015 4:58 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Usually because folks change more than one variable at a time and expect to figure out what changed
Jul 21, 2015 5:00 AM - WheresWaldo: Aaron, you will find that not much is really different between the standard setup and one configured for the Robo. The Z endstop is funky the way Robo implemented it. I am not sure any other printer on the market does it the way they did. But it is workable.
Jul 21, 2015 5:00 AM - Stephen Capistron: Jb, how are you hanging in there today?
Jul 21, 2015 5:01 AM - WheresWaldo: Yeah, a lifetime ago I worked tech support for a security software company, the things people forget to mention when their data was lost would amaze you.
Jul 21, 2015 5:02 AM - jbigler1986: doing alright.
Jul 21, 2015 5:03 AM - jbigler1986: lawyer is gonna try and get an emergency hearing so i can get my shit out without breaking a window
Jul 21, 2015 5:03 AM - Bill Monroe: jb, know that some of us have walked your path before.
Jul 21, 2015 5:04 AM - jbigler1986: i'm fine with the divorce. she obviously is having some kind of mental breakdown or something. Doing the kids like she is, is what pisses me off
Jul 21, 2015 5:04 AM - Bill Monroe: i cant speak for the others, but in my case, it was one of the best things that ever happened to me, and more importantly, my kids.
Jul 21, 2015 5:04 AM - daniel871: How many data losses were because of porn deletion scrambles, Waldo?
Jul 21, 2015 5:05 AM - Aaron Mitchell: ^
Jul 21, 2015 5:05 AM - daniel871: If its an actual mental breakdown it isnt as though she can be selective with her crazy jb.
Jul 21, 2015 5:06 AM - WheresWaldo: I worked with HDD encryption software, with no backdoors (before everything was a National Security issue) once the user forgot their password their data was toast.
Jul 21, 2015 5:07 AM - daniel871: Your password was "12345" or "GUEST".
Jul 21, 2015 5:08 AM - jbigler1986: IDK what it is daniel. Just very weird. Oh well. I got my kids so that's all that matters to me
Jul 21, 2015 5:08 AM - WheresWaldo: I used to ask them two questions, depending on response. 1 "Do you have a recent backup?", then when they responded "well, no", 2. "So when exactly did your data become important to you?"
Jul 21, 2015 5:12 AM - daniel871: I'd be wondering if something traumatic happened that she hasn't talked to anyone about, myself. People do weird shit if they somehow become convinced nobody in their family can help them or they have a psychotic break and think you and the kids are demons or something.
Jul 21, 2015 5:13 AM - daniel871: Things that have happened to people I know or work with, btw. Yay for Fundamentalism in The South.
Jul 21, 2015 5:16 AM - daniel871: Basically I'm saying pity (if not some kind of empathy) will help a lot more than anger.
Jul 21, 2015 5:18 AM - jbigler1986: Her loss
Jul 21, 2015 5:18 AM - daniel871: Especially if it is really out of the blue because something has to provoke that sudden a change and it doesn't have to be something anyone at home did.
Jul 21, 2015 5:21 AM - daniel871: Hell, some of the guys at work have done the same thing to their wife and kids as a midlife crisis that ruined their personal life.
Jul 21, 2015 5:22 AM - daniel871: Apparently hitting 35 after being married since high school means it is time to split up.
Jul 21, 2015 5:25 AM - jbigler1986: I just want me and my kids stuff is all
Jul 21, 2015 5:25 AM - jbigler1986: especially my oldest sons meds

 

Jul 21, 2015 5:26 AM - daniel871: Can you call your son's doctor and explain what is going on?
Jul 21, 2015 5:27 AM - jbigler1986: I can. Insurance is the issue. Probably have to pay for it out of pocket which isn't a big deal. Pricey medicine. $430 for a months supply
Jul 21, 2015 5:28 AM - Aaron Mitchell: You can usually buy it by the pill in emergency situations...like when on vacation to hold you over for a few days
Jul 21, 2015 5:33 AM - Aaron Mitchell: New rods are definitely not wobbly...
Jul 21, 2015 5:34 AM - jbigler1986: nope
Jul 21, 2015 5:34 AM - jbigler1986: coupler sucked
Jul 21, 2015 5:35 AM - WheresWaldo: Aaron, I take it 800 IS the correct number of Z Steps?
Jul 21, 2015 5:37 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Going to find out...looks right...I just did a bed level
Jul 21, 2015 5:37 AM - WheresWaldo: @jb, have you done any printing with Alloy 910?
Jul 21, 2015 5:39 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Anyone know if the Z-axis movement speed should be changed from 16.7mm/s in Simplify?
Jul 21, 2015 5:40 AM - Bill Monroe: mine is at 25
Jul 21, 2015 5:40 AM - jbigler1986: nope. i have a sample of it but haven't used it
Jul 21, 2015 5:40 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Also, what setting do I change again to squish down the first layer?
Jul 21, 2015 5:40 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Is it just the First Layer Height percentage?
Jul 21, 2015 5:41 AM - WheresWaldo: You could likely go faster, but why? Your limiting factor is how long it takes to print the layer, not how fast it moves from layer to layer.
Jul 21, 2015 5:41 AM - Bill Monroe: dont change percentage
Jul 21, 2015 5:41 AM - Aaron Mitchell: I thought there was another setting, Bill..just can't find it...
Jul 21, 2015 5:41 AM - daniel871: Usually the M565 line in the starting G-code if you're using Robo's firmware.
Jul 21, 2015 5:41 AM - Bill Monroe: becuase fast speed with lower accel looks and sounds really cool, and the machine runs MUCH smoother
Jul 21, 2015 5:42 AM - daniel871: What are your accel settings Bill?
Jul 21, 2015 5:42 AM - Bill Monroe: naw.. just change steps, watch how the machine runs and change what makes you feel good.
Jul 21, 2015 5:42 AM - WheresWaldo: @Daniel. There you go teaching people bad habits
Jul 21, 2015 5:42 AM - Bill Monroe: I run 500 on mine
Jul 21, 2015 5:42 AM - daniel871: I was tinkering with it last night but kept getting clogs with PLA because I haven't seasoned it.
Jul 21, 2015 5:42 AM - WheresWaldo: PLA sucks
Jul 21, 2015 5:42 AM - daniel871: Okay, I had 500 as the "defaults" when I stopped fiddling last night. It sounded good and ran smooth, but I need to season the nozzle.
Jul 21, 2015 5:43 AM - Bill Monroe: i never season, that's an old wive's tale.. same nozzle now for 3 months, never clogs
Jul 21, 2015 5:43 AM - daniel871: For some reason the PLA keeps stripping out at the hobbed gear.
Jul 21, 2015 5:43 AM - daniel871: hobbed bolt rather.
Jul 21, 2015 5:44 AM - daniel871: Get about an hour into a print, then strip out.
Jul 21, 2015 5:44 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Here goes nothing
Jul 21, 2015 5:44 AM - daniel871: Open up, remove stripped bit, clean the hob, reload and try again, strip again.
Jul 21, 2015 5:44 AM - WheresWaldo: I seasoned, I cleaned my hobbed bolt, PLA has always been a problem, that is why I switched to PETG for about 90% of my prints.
Jul 21, 2015 5:45 AM - daniel871: Problem is a I have a ton of PLA to print because I bought it cheap from JustPLA when there were some cheap spools on Amazon (<$15 for some colors I wanted).
Jul 21, 2015 5:45 AM - Bill Monroe: seasoning wont hurt.. but it wont fix your ills either
Jul 21, 2015 5:45 AM - jbigler1986: PLA is no issue for me. love that stuff
Jul 21, 2015 5:45 AM - daniel871: What are you doing differently from the default S3D settings?
Jul 21, 2015 5:45 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Maybe it is just bad PLA...
Jul 21, 2015 5:46 AM - Bill Monroe: there are SO many variables.. one really cannot diagnose from a distance
Jul 21, 2015 5:46 AM - Bill Monroe: although many think they can
Jul 21, 2015 5:47 AM - daniel871: I'll try a different spool and see if it does better.
Jul 21, 2015 5:47 AM - WheresWaldo: Yeah, I thought that you had to have the Studio line or Pro line from justPLA before you got good stuff. most of their "on sale" stuff is their cheapest filament.
Jul 21, 2015 5:47 AM - Stephen Capistron: is your idler spinning freely? PLA could be getting a bit too warm on its way in so when you retract you are SOL
Jul 21, 2015 5:47 AM - daniel871: These were Chroma-Line and Studio-Line spools.
Jul 21, 2015 5:48 AM - daniel871: Yeah, everything turns easily and the bearing spins when I turn the gear.
Jul 21, 2015 5:48 AM - Aaron Mitchell: ...and how long has the problem filament been exposed to the air...? Have you tried a newly opened filament of a different color or brand?
Jul 21, 2015 5:48 AM - daniel871: Not yet, I'll try a different spool this evening.
Jul 21, 2015 5:49 AM - WheresWaldo: Chroma is the bottom, according to their website, Studio should be good quality. But I have not tried any of their filament personally, I have stuck with eSUN mostly. Unfortunately I don't have a Microcenter in my state so I have to order from Amazon.
Jul 21, 2015 5:49 AM - daniel871: It's been kept in a container full of dessicant since I swapped it out for the PET+ for the other things I was printing.
Jul 21, 2015 5:49 AM - Aaron Mitchell: ...alright 1st layer with new screws now printing...will put up a picture after 10-20 layers to show what the layer heights look like
Jul 21, 2015 5:49 AM - daniel871: Figured that would be good enough on the moisture side of things.
Jul 21, 2015 5:50 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Yeah...my first layer needs to be smooshed down further...
Jul 21, 2015 5:50 AM - Bill Monroe: PLA/PET -- moisture not an issue
Jul 21, 2015 5:50 AM - WheresWaldo: Daniel, are you in a humid part of the country?
Jul 21, 2015 5:50 AM - jbigler1986: hobbed bolt really doesn't like a ton of retration
Jul 21, 2015 5:50 AM - daniel871: I'm in the US South, but the air conditioner keeps the house cool and dry.
Jul 21, 2015 5:50 AM - jbigler1986: aaron, lower the offset for that
Jul 21, 2015 5:50 AM - Aaron Mitchell: JB...which offset was it again?
Jul 21, 2015 5:50 AM - Bill Monroe: PLA - more sensitive to outgassing.. keeping it in bag is good for it, dessicant wont hurt but wont help much either
Jul 21, 2015 5:50 AM - WheresWaldo: I am in the "New South", Charlotte that is.
Jul 21, 2015 5:51 AM - Aaron Mitchell: couldn't find it earlier...
Jul 21, 2015 5:51 AM - daniel871: I'll probably just disable retraction for PLA and deal with the strings.
Jul 21, 2015 5:51 AM - daniel871: It's fairly easy to deburr.
Jul 21, 2015 5:51 AM - Bill Monroe: in other words, PLA goes stale out of the bag, but doestn gain enough moisture to matter
Jul 21, 2015 5:51 AM - jbigler1986: depends what software you are using Aaron
Jul 21, 2015 5:52 AM - Aaron Mitchell: S3D
Jul 21, 2015 5:52 AM - Aaron Mitchell: S3D, JB
Jul 21, 2015 5:53 AM - jbigler1986: so M565 in start gcode?
Jul 21, 2015 5:53 AM - Aaron Mitchell: It is set at Z0
Jul 21, 2015 5:54 AM - Aaron Mitchell: I thought there was a First Layer offset that we were adjusting the other day when you and Don were helping me with this...
Jul 21, 2015 5:55 AM - jbigler1986: M565 is the first layer offset
Jul 21, 2015 5:55 AM - daniel871: Aaron, look here:
Jul 21, 2015 5:56 AM - daniel871: That's an incomplete image, but the area you're looking for is after the 1st G1.
Jul 21, 2015 5:56 AM - WheresWaldo: Aaron, if there is, this is what I think should be used rather than M565. I think the intent of M565 was to adjust for accuracy, not bed adhesion.
Jul 21, 2015 5:56 AM - WheresWaldo: I should add, even though using M565 is a common practice.
Jul 21, 2015 5:57 AM - daniel871: Usually the rest of it falls into place once you get M565 right though.
Jul 21, 2015 5:57 AM - daniel871: That is, once you find the right setting, you usually don't have to change it again.
Jul 21, 2015 5:57 AM - daniel871: I found mine worked well at Z-.85 and havne't had to fiddle with it.
Jul 21, 2015 5:58 AM - daniel871: haven't
Jul 21, 2015 5:58 AM - donhuevo: I'm at z-.62
Jul 21, 2015 5:58 AM - donhuevo: morning
Jul 21, 2015 5:58 AM - WheresWaldo: It can and does, there are multiple ways to approach, I just tend to want my first layer to be accurate rather than .0n mm shorter
Jul 21, 2015 5:58 AM - daniel871: Think it comes down to how the actual sensor is mounted rather than the real distance involved, Waldo.
Jul 21, 2015 5:59 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Morning, Don...
Jul 21, 2015 5:59 AM - daniel871: Like, the sensor may be closed, but not fully depressed as mounted, if that makes sense.
Jul 21, 2015 5:59 AM - donhuevo: hey aaron
Jul 21, 2015 5:59 AM - jbigler1986: hey don
Jul 21, 2015 5:59 AM - daniel871: So less travel is required to trigger it.
Jul 21, 2015 5:59 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Yeah...I had it set to about .82 then screwed up my profile...I thought there was also a setting for it right in the Simplify3D Process settings...
Jul 21, 2015 6:00 AM - daniel871: No, the process settings are separate from the starting G-code stuff.
Jul 21, 2015 6:00 AM - daniel871: Except for when you do a cold auto-level and call up the process temp codes there instead of at the very beginning of the program.
Jul 21, 2015 6:02 AM - WheresWaldo: Sensor is what it is, I have already mentioned that Robo appears to be the only manufacturer that uses their Z endstop the way they do.
Jul 21, 2015 6:03 AM - daniel871: Others have the Z endstop in a fixed location and looking for it to close instead of the other way around, right?
Jul 21, 2015 6:03 AM - WheresWaldo: Yes
Jul 21, 2015 6:03 AM - daniel871: Might be doable as a mod.
Jul 21, 2015 6:03 AM - WheresWaldo: Just like the X and Y are in ours
Jul 21, 2015 6:04 AM - daniel871: Though it needs to be adjustable to compensate for things like PrintinZ plates and things.
Jul 21, 2015 6:04 AM - Stephen Capistron: It is, MK has one of his printers setup with a z endstop mounted on the end of a solenoid
Jul 21, 2015 6:04 AM - daniel871: There's also the proximity sensor thing for use with the PrintinZ plates because they have metal in them.
Jul 21, 2015 6:05 AM - WheresWaldo: A lot of printers are using the proximity sensor

 

Jul 21, 2015 6:05 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Proximity sensor thing=inductive coil
Jul 21, 2015 6:06 AM - WheresWaldo: Yes usually, some use an opto sensor and a way to split a light source
Jul 21, 2015 6:06 AM - daniel871: So many mods to do, so little time.
Jul 21, 2015 6:06 AM - Aaron Mitchell: The coils are just more expensive than a couple of switches...
Jul 21, 2015 6:07 AM - daniel871: Yeah, That's why I was wondering about a simple mod to fix the existing switches in place and that could be adjusted for the people that use a plate instead of hairspray/glue/w/e.
Jul 21, 2015 6:08 AM - daniel871: Looking up MK's solenoid mod right now.
Jul 21, 2015 6:08 AM - WheresWaldo: I never said Robo's way is bad, just contrary to popular methods. Contrary in this sense meaning different.
Jul 21, 2015 6:08 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Yeah, MK was mentioning that the other day as well, Waldo
Jul 21, 2015 6:08 AM - daniel871: I'm not that fond of the way the Robo does it, myself.
Jul 21, 2015 6:08 AM - Bill Monroe: there's not much you can do to a reprap.
Jul 21, 2015 6:09 AM - Aaron Mitchell: I think JB would beg to differ with you Bill.....hehee
Jul 21, 2015 6:09 AM - Bill Monroe: at some point, if you want to improve it, you gotta walk away and use a different style
Jul 21, 2015 6:09 AM - daniel871: Though it got better when I slowed the acceleration down in the firmware.
Jul 21, 2015 6:09 AM - daniel871: It would just jam down on the glass before until the carriage lifted up and do it really fast.
Jul 21, 2015 6:09 AM - Bill Monroe: Aaron
Jul 21, 2015 6:10 AM - daniel871: Axis, not carriage.
Jul 21, 2015 6:10 AM - WheresWaldo: Simple mod could be to arrange a setup like the X Axis was before the R1, move the Z switches to the baseplate or some support attached to the baseplate, use a screw and nut inserted in the Z Axis carriage to trigger the switch as soon as the extruder hits the glass plate. Is that clear?
Jul 21, 2015 6:11 AM - daniel871: Pretty much what I was thinking of, yeah.
Jul 21, 2015 6:12 AM - Bill Monroe: the Y mechanism is far too weak to keep alignment
Jul 21, 2015 6:12 AM - jbigler1986: be a pretty easy mod really
Jul 21, 2015 6:13 AM - WheresWaldo: It would be precise and accurate every single time, it would account for any size build plate since it is adjustable, and it would be repeatable/reliable. rather than a sleeve around a nut with a switch attached.
Jul 21, 2015 6:13 AM - Stephen Capistron: The z switches can not be fixed in the Y axis. otherwise the autolevel will not work
Jul 21, 2015 6:14 AM - WheresWaldo: Not what we are describing, Z endstop switches affixed to baseplate not bed.
Jul 21, 2015 6:14 AM - Bill Monroe: a guy at work built his own machine from scratch, used extrusion and roller wheels for the Y.. that sucker is rock solid
Jul 21, 2015 6:15 AM - Bill Monroe: I put prox switch on the X, never touches the bed
Jul 21, 2015 6:15 AM - Stephen Capistron: Then how will it take into account any out of square relative to the bed
Jul 21, 2015 6:15 AM - Stephen Capistron: with regards to autolevel
Jul 21, 2015 6:15 AM - Bill Monroe: one it was tammed it was perfect and hasnt changed
Jul 21, 2015 6:15 AM - Bill Monroe: no autolevel.. ever.
Jul 21, 2015 6:15 AM - Stephen Capistron: Not your buddies, the robo.
Jul 21, 2015 6:15 AM - Bill Monroe: ya.. gotcha
Jul 21, 2015 6:16 AM - WheresWaldo: Stephen you are right, this would require an already parallel bed to extruder, it would void tramming results, needs more thinking.
Jul 21, 2015 6:16 AM - Bill Monroe: robo is like driving indy with only 3 gears working
Jul 21, 2015 6:16 AM - WheresWaldo: And the missing gears are in the middle
Jul 21, 2015 6:17 AM - Bill Monroe: heh not the analogy I was going for but humourous
Jul 21, 2015 6:18 AM - Bill Monroe: if the checked flag is a quality reliable machine with results on par with the pros, no tweaking on a robo will get you there
Jul 21, 2015 6:18 AM - Bill Monroe: at some point, you gotta get a new car
Jul 21, 2015 6:18 AM - WheresWaldo: It would be so much easier if Robo hadn't decided to use the extruder as the actual probe.
Jul 21, 2015 6:19 AM - Bill Monroe: eh.. it takes a lot more than that...
Jul 21, 2015 6:19 AM - WheresWaldo: Bill, but given those constraints, if you can get 90% of the performance at their price point, it is a win.
Jul 21, 2015 6:19 AM - Bill Monroe: gotta eliminate the need to proble altogether
Jul 21, 2015 6:19 AM - Bill Monroe: ohya, the machine has it's place alright
Jul 21, 2015 6:19 AM - jbigler1986: ^
Jul 21, 2015 6:20 AM - jbigler1986: autolevel is my only beef with the robo now
Jul 21, 2015 6:20 AM - Bill Monroe: dont get me wrong, I like it, and use it.. but I never expect it to match the Stratasys in my lab
Jul 21, 2015 6:20 AM - jbigler1986: has been for a while really
Jul 21, 2015 6:20 AM - WheresWaldo: Yes, but then you will need to build it with much tighter tolerences, look at all the failed Kickstarters that tried to do that.
Jul 21, 2015 6:21 AM - Bill Monroe: I thought Robo was heading in the right direction with the R2 config..
Jul 21, 2015 6:21 AM - WheresWaldo: JB, ABL is the bane of the developers too.
Jul 21, 2015 6:22 AM - jbigler1986: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/e3dbigbox/the-e3d-bigbox-3d-printer
Jul 21, 2015 6:22 AM - jbigler1986: look at the autolevel video.
Jul 21, 2015 6:22 AM - Bill Monroe: bah... ABS is easy, but not with a reprap
Jul 21, 2015 6:22 AM - WheresWaldo: Do you have more infor than the press releases about the R2, I would be interesting in readin it.
Jul 21, 2015 6:22 AM - Stephen Capistron: redesign the end brackets of the bed that make up the y axis so the can be adjusted so the machine can be trammed and do away with ABL
Jul 21, 2015 6:22 AM - Bill Monroe: i just scrapped a 15 year old ABS machine that made perfect prints from day one.. my ABS machine is basically a clone of it
Jul 21, 2015 6:22 AM - jbigler1986: the R2 will never be released
Jul 21, 2015 6:23 AM - Bill Monroe: seems that way JB
Jul 21, 2015 6:23 AM - WheresWaldo: Optimistic we are, JB
Jul 21, 2015 6:24 AM - jbigler1986: just tell it like it is is all
Jul 21, 2015 6:24 AM - jbigler1986: they don't even know if they want to go direct or bowden with it yet
Jul 21, 2015 6:24 AM - donhuevo: how often do you suppose you swap out your hot end nozzles?
Jul 21, 2015 6:25 AM - WheresWaldo: Bigbox looks like a modded Ultimaker
Jul 21, 2015 6:25 AM - Bill Monroe: i've not changed mine in months
Jul 21, 2015 6:25 AM - WheresWaldo: Do we know who is the intended market for the R2?
Jul 21, 2015 6:25 AM - donhuevo: it's been a while for me too but there are those occasions where you want .25 or .6 or whatever
Jul 21, 2015 6:26 AM - donhuevo: or the jam that needs cleared
Jul 21, 2015 6:26 AM - Bill Monroe: ahhh ya, I stick with the 4
Jul 21, 2015 6:26 AM - WheresWaldo: Don, having n+1 printers solves that problem.
Jul 21, 2015 6:26 AM - donhuevo: doesn't solve the jam
Jul 21, 2015 6:27 AM - donhuevo: anyway, changing the nozzle is the only downside I see to having a separate probe
Jul 21, 2015 6:27 AM - WheresWaldo: If I am not using PLA, I can honestly say I have not had a jam.
Jul 21, 2015 6:28 AM - Bill Monroe: I dont have jams with anything
Jul 21, 2015 6:28 AM - WheresWaldo: The nozzles should be practically the same size, or within thousandths at least, so it shouldn't really be an issue.
Jul 21, 2015 6:28 AM - jbigler1986: i get jams but it's not in the nozzle
Jul 21, 2015 6:28 AM - Bill Monroe: last time I had a jam was the last day I used a shitmera nozzle
Jul 21, 2015 6:29 AM - jbigler1986: it's bc of the stupid autolevel
Jul 21, 2015 6:29 AM - Bill Monroe:
Jul 21, 2015 6:29 AM - donhuevo: I'm only saying that if you change the height of the nozzle relative to the probe, you'd need to find a new z offset
Jul 21, 2015 6:30 AM - Bill Monroe: yup
Jul 21, 2015 6:30 AM - WheresWaldo: Still, everyone need n+1, just name something you need and tell us honestly if having n+1 wouldn't be better, most of the time.
Jul 21, 2015 6:30 AM - Bill Monroe: but a simple cal process should fix that
Jul 21, 2015 6:30 AM - daniel871: Nozzles are the same length for the E3D things, so the only way that goes wrong is if the heatbreak end changes depth.
Jul 21, 2015 6:30 AM - donhuevo: but if the nozzle was the probe, it's a non-issue
Jul 21, 2015 6:30 AM - Bill Monroe: <-- N+2
Jul 21, 2015 6:31 AM - donhuevo: not true. I have probably 5 .4 e3d nozzles and they are all a little different
Jul 21, 2015 6:31 AM - Bill Monroe: yup
Jul 21, 2015 6:31 AM - daniel871: Odd. All of my volcano nozzles are the same length.
Jul 21, 2015 6:31 AM - Bill Monroe: height can vary with how far they're screwed in too
Jul 21, 2015 6:31 AM - WheresWaldo: gnats balls
Jul 21, 2015 6:31 AM - daniel871: That's why I mentioned the heatbreak being fully screwed in.
Jul 21, 2015 6:32 AM - Bill Monroe: not just the heatbreak
Jul 21, 2015 6:32 AM - daniel871: And you seat the nozzle against the heatbreak while screwing it into the heaterblock.
Jul 21, 2015 6:32 AM - donhuevo: when we're talking about tenths or hundredths of a mm for your offset, you shouldn't assume they're identical
Jul 21, 2015 6:32 AM - daniel871: I'm assuming everyone actually fully engages the threads from heater block up.
Jul 21, 2015 6:32 AM - WheresWaldo: You guys are starting to sound like my cycling buddies, who all weigh over 200 and want to save 5 grams of weight by changing all their steel bolts to titanium ones.
Jul 21, 2015 6:33 AM - Bill Monroe: hahah! Waldo!
Jul 21, 2015 6:33 AM - Bill Monroe: I have the same buddies!
Jul 21, 2015 6:33 AM - daniel871: To be fair, having titanium support would make the bike better able to handle their 200+ weight.
Jul 21, 2015 6:33 AM - Bill Monroe: they also all say the ride for the excersize..
Jul 21, 2015 6:33 AM - WheresWaldo: Bill you a cyclist or bicycle rider?

 

Jul 21, 2015 6:34 AM - daniel871: I'm a runner, myself. Bikes are for lazy people.
Jul 21, 2015 6:34 AM - Bill Monroe: so I tell them to hill climb on a beach cruiser
Jul 21, 2015 6:34 AM - daniel871:
Jul 21, 2015 6:34 AM - daniel871: "I have to sit down and have a breeze while I exercise"
Jul 21, 2015 6:34 AM - daniel871: Pfft.
Jul 21, 2015 6:35 AM - Bill Monroe: I think I'm somewhere in between waldo... I enjoy it, make me feel like a lil kid again, but I do it for fitness and health so I'm not all up about getting the lightest friction-free machine
Jul 21, 2015 6:35 AM - WheresWaldo: Running is the worst sport ever invented. 8-o
Jul 21, 2015 6:35 AM - Bill Monroe: i dont have the knees to run for fitness anymore
Jul 21, 2015 6:35 AM - daniel871: I don't do it for the sport, I do it because it's a good warmup to doing weighted workouts.
Jul 21, 2015 6:36 AM - Bill Monroe: my sons run together now that their both back in town..
Jul 21, 2015 6:36 AM - Bill Monroe: but they
Jul 21, 2015 6:36 AM - Bill Monroe: but they're both military so, it's part of their life
Jul 21, 2015 6:36 AM - daniel871: Need to figure out a good way to carry water when running in the summer though.
Jul 21, 2015 6:37 AM - WheresWaldo: I used to ride competitively back a lifetime ago, now its to see if I can still occasionally keep up with the twenty somethings that have more money than sense.
Jul 21, 2015 6:37 AM - Bill Monroe: carry it on a bike
Jul 21, 2015 6:37 AM - daniel871: A backpack with water bottles in it is good for the weight, but digging into it for a bottle while running is awkward.
Jul 21, 2015 6:37 AM - WheresWaldo: hydration pack
Jul 21, 2015 6:37 AM - Bill Monroe: i was cooling down once when a trio of teens passed me on their BMXs laughing at the old man
Jul 21, 2015 6:38 AM - daniel871: Those camel back things are a mold/mildew problem waiting to happen though.
Jul 21, 2015 6:38 AM - Bill Monroe: i waited until we came to "the hill", amped up, down shifted and blew past them
Jul 21, 2015 6:38 AM - Bill Monroe: stopped at the top and waited for them
Jul 21, 2015 6:38 AM - WheresWaldo: Daniel, they are not that bad. and do clean out easily, if you remember to do it.
Jul 21, 2015 6:39 AM - Stephen Capistron: Can also put them in the dryer and/or print a structure to go inside to keep them open so air can get in so it dries out
Jul 21, 2015 6:41 AM - WheresWaldo: Bill isn't it great when a plan comes together. I had the son of a friend of mine tell me at the beginning of a 70 mile ride through coastal BLM land in Oregon, "I can beat you any time any where!" Needless to say at the end of the ride, my other two buddies cheered as I got the the last climb about a minute ahead of him.
Jul 21, 2015 6:42 AM - Bill Monroe: it was fun.. they were good kids really, they ended up joining my Boy Scout Troop
Jul 21, 2015 6:45 AM - WheresWaldo: When it comes to cycling, I have checked off most of my bucket list. I used to own a bicycle shop and we reached out to all the Cub Scout troups in the area to put on a small clinic to help them all get their cycling merit badges.
Jul 21, 2015 6:51 AM - jbigler1986: @Daniel, camelback is perfect for that
Jul 21, 2015 7:08 AM - Mike Glass: Hey don,
Jul 21, 2015 7:11 AM - Mike Glass: Mornin
Jul 21, 2015 7:12 AM - Mike Glass: printed MK's feet last night now just waiting for the full graphics mount.
Jul 21, 2015 7:12 AM - Mike Kelly: look good
Jul 21, 2015 7:13 AM - Mike Glass: didnt realize it was hollow. but it bridged perfect.
Jul 21, 2015 7:13 AM - Mike Kelly: oh yeah i just print w/ support cause HIPS
Jul 21, 2015 7:14 AM - Mike Glass: that smoke is neat stuff, semitranslucent
Jul 21, 2015 7:15 AM - Mike Kelly: got a closeup?
Jul 21, 2015 7:16 AM - Mike Glass: I did but it was really blurry. will do one tonight.
Jul 21, 2015 7:17 AM - WheresWaldo: @MG I have been looking for a smoke filament, who makes it and where did you get it?
Jul 21, 2015 7:17 AM - Mike Glass: ordered the fans yesterday so should have everything to do the mods this weekend.
Jul 21, 2015 7:17 AM - Mike Glass: its the cheap justPLA
Jul 21, 2015 7:17 AM - WheresWaldo: I tried Hatchbox transparent black ABS, but it comes out silver.
Jul 21, 2015 7:18 AM - daniel871: I was trying to use JustPLA smoke last night, it's the one that keeps stripping out.
Jul 21, 2015 7:18 AM - Mike Glass: JB did some parts with also, there should be posts in the shoutbox archive.
Jul 21, 2015 7:18 AM - daniel871: But again, I'll disable retraction and just clean up the strings when I get home.
Jul 21, 2015 7:18 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah i guess i own some so i could always print something with it!
Jul 21, 2015 7:18 AM - Mike Glass: I ran a 5 hour print without issues
Jul 21, 2015 7:18 AM - WheresWaldo: Will look on Amazon
Jul 21, 2015 7:19 AM - jbigler1986: yeah i would have to look through my phone to find them
Jul 21, 2015 7:19 AM - Mike Glass: yea $15.99 for a roll is a good price for filament, and this stuff I have never had any issues with warpage.
Jul 21, 2015 7:20 AM - WheresWaldo: Is this it? http://www.justpla.com/pla175mm/smoke-plaz175-1kg
Jul 21, 2015 7:20 AM - Mike Glass: yep
Jul 21, 2015 7:22 AM - Mike Glass: I run all their filament at 220 first layer and 215 on the other layers for best results.
Jul 21, 2015 7:22 AM - Mike Kelly: i guess i get to pull out the lead screws and try again tonight
Jul 21, 2015 7:22 AM - Mike Glass: no go MK?
Jul 21, 2015 7:22 AM - jbigler1986: i want to try hatchbox tanslucent black. it's way more translucent
Jul 21, 2015 7:22 AM - Mike Kelly: no luck
Jul 21, 2015 7:23 AM - Mike Kelly: i think the right one is wobbly or something
Jul 21, 2015 7:23 AM - Mike Glass: Waldo said its looks like silver JB
Jul 21, 2015 7:23 AM - WheresWaldo: MG 2 perimeters or 3
Jul 21, 2015 7:23 AM - Mike Glass: always 3
Jul 21, 2015 7:23 AM - WheresWaldo: jb let me show you a picture
Jul 21, 2015 7:23 AM - Mike Glass: bbl staff meeting..yippeeeee
Jul 21, 2015 7:28 AM - WheresWaldo:
Jul 21, 2015 7:30 AM - Mike Kelly: definitely silver/grey
Jul 21, 2015 7:31 AM - jbigler1986:
Jul 21, 2015 7:35 AM - Mike Kelly: that looks very close to the "transparent" pla i tried
Jul 21, 2015 7:35 AM - jbigler1986: that was walters print. he said it was hatchbox transparent black
Jul 21, 2015 7:36 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah i recognized that
Jul 21, 2015 7:36 AM - WheresWaldo: The one I just fixed is Hatchbox transparent black ABS, nothing like a smoke color. Comes out the same color every time.
Jul 21, 2015 7:39 AM - daniel871: Your temps are for the regular v6 or the hexagon, Mike?
Jul 21, 2015 7:40 AM - daniel871: Hey PrintedSolid, I hear you're looking for filament guinea pigs?
Jul 21, 2015 7:42 AM - daniel871: Drop me a message with details if you don't have enough volunteers for what you're wanting to do.
Jul 21, 2015 7:43 AM - Mike Kelly: looks like he was only on for a second
Jul 21, 2015 7:44 AM - daniel871:
Jul 21, 2015 7:44 AM - daniel871: Man, I'd rather be at home messing around with my printer.
Jul 21, 2015 7:45 AM - daniel871: Was printing well all weekend with PET+ and now I have a new problem to solve.
Jul 21, 2015 7:46 AM - daniel871: Hm. What about coasting and vertical retraction instead of actual filament retraction?
Jul 21, 2015 7:46 AM - daniel871: coasting/wipe
Jul 21, 2015 8:04 AM - Aaron Mitchell:
Jul 21, 2015 8:05 AM - Aaron Mitchell: 1st print with new screws....
Jul 21, 2015 8:05 AM - daniel871: Living on the East Coast when ordering from Robo sucks.
Jul 21, 2015 8:06 AM - Aaron Mitchell: ^ yep, Daniel
Jul 21, 2015 8:06 AM - Mike Kelly: lookin good aaron
Jul 21, 2015 8:06 AM - daniel871: All you guys getting these things days before I do and we all ordered on the same day.
Jul 21, 2015 8:06 AM - Aaron Mitchell: I live in Florida, Daniel...
Jul 21, 2015 8:06 AM - Mike Kelly: do you get any wobble or are they really smooth

 

Jul 21, 2015 8:06 AM - jbigler1986: well i got mine months ago.
Jul 21, 2015 8:06 AM - Aaron Mitchell: No wobble when I jogged it up down at all
Jul 21, 2015 8:07 AM - Mike Kelly: also now you know what i deal with with all you jokers on the east coast
Jul 21, 2015 8:07 AM - Aaron Mitchell: JB, that's because you are Dr. Frankenrobo
Jul 21, 2015 8:07 AM - Stephen Capistron: And MG has it even worse than you
Jul 21, 2015 8:07 AM - Mike Kelly: i think i might have a bent rod
Jul 21, 2015 8:07 AM - Mike Kelly: need to pull it out
Jul 21, 2015 8:08 AM - Mike Kelly: i'm pretty pissed
Jul 21, 2015 8:08 AM - Mike Kelly: geez i'm realizing my robo is almost 2 years old
Jul 21, 2015 8:08 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Some people are just born that way, MK..nothing you can do about it really...
Jul 21, 2015 8:08 AM - jbigler1986: rods are usually a little bent. if it's totally straight that is amazing
Jul 21, 2015 8:09 AM - jbigler1986:
Jul 21, 2015 8:09 AM - Aaron Mitchell:
Jul 21, 2015 8:09 AM - Mike Kelly: might as well use the dildo generator while i have this ribbing
Jul 21, 2015 8:09 AM - Mike Kelly: the ladies love it!
Jul 21, 2015 8:10 AM - daniel871:
Jul 21, 2015 8:18 AM - jbigler1986: still have ribbing after the upgrade?
Jul 21, 2015 8:18 AM - Mike Kelly: unfortunately
Jul 21, 2015 8:19 AM - jbigler1986: wtf
Jul 21, 2015 8:19 AM - Mike Kelly: i'm thinking there's some other issue
Jul 21, 2015 8:19 AM - jbigler1986: has to be
Jul 21, 2015 8:21 AM - Mike Kelly: so yeah, get to debug
Jul 21, 2015 8:26 AM - jbigler1986: i enjoy that
Jul 21, 2015 8:26 AM - jbigler1986: i need a different autolevel. it sucks
Jul 21, 2015 8:27 AM - Mike Kelly: you'd like the probe
Jul 21, 2015 8:27 AM - daniel871: That's what she said.
Jul 21, 2015 8:28 AM - jbigler1986: didn't you ask if anyone wanted one a while ago
Jul 21, 2015 8:28 AM - daniel871: Multi-tasking with the new Sharepoint stuff that is being set up today is interesting.
Jul 21, 2015 8:29 AM - Mike Kelly: i did jb
Jul 21, 2015 8:29 AM - Mike Kelly: still got plenty of spare parts if you want to try
Jul 21, 2015 8:29 AM - jbigler1986: already put together?
Jul 21, 2015 8:29 AM - daniel871: I think I'll get the new lead screws and dual bowden done and then try the probe stuff.
Jul 21, 2015 8:29 AM - Mike Kelly: not at present but i can solder the circuit up for you
Jul 21, 2015 8:30 AM - jbigler1986: that would be fantastic. you can add a few bucks to the invoice if you want for it
Jul 21, 2015 8:31 AM - daniel871: I'm going to take photos of everything I do when I get ready to do it and post a mod/upgrade thread I guess.
Jul 21, 2015 8:31 AM - Mike Kelly: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11015
Jul 21, 2015 8:31 AM - daniel871: Since I'm mostly stock except for the LCD and Volcano.
Jul 21, 2015 8:32 AM - Stephen Capistron: ugh, 5V
Jul 21, 2015 8:33 AM - jbigler1986: do i need to buy that MK or you have spare ones?
Jul 21, 2015 8:34 AM - Mike Kelly: i only have one of those, i can give you it but i like to keep spares around
Jul 21, 2015 8:35 AM - Mike Kelly: stephen it needs an isolated circuit anyways
Jul 21, 2015 8:35 AM - jbigler1986: up to you on that
Jul 21, 2015 8:36 AM - Mike Kelly: ok i'll think on it
Jul 21, 2015 8:43 AM - Mike Kelly: @Stephen: how different is creo from solidworks
Jul 21, 2015 8:48 AM - daniel871: http://www.mcadcentral.com/creo-rant-rave/27484-solid-works-vs-creo.html
Jul 21, 2015 8:48 AM - daniel871: LOL
Jul 21, 2015 8:50 AM - Stephen Capistron: elements direct is very different
Jul 21, 2015 8:50 AM - Stephen Capistron: regular parametric is pretty similar
Jul 21, 2015 8:51 AM - Mike Kelly: a few jobs i was looking at were requesting creo
Jul 21, 2015 8:51 AM - Stephen Capistron: it does some neat things like snapping to previously used sizes.
Jul 21, 2015 8:52 AM - Stephen Capistron: I wouldn't worry too much about not being a master of it. I got hired by a company that used elements direct exclusively and i'd never used anything like it before
Jul 21, 2015 8:54 AM - daniel871: I was going to be a smartalec and link to a CREO course set on Lynda.com but they don't have one.
Jul 21, 2015 8:54 AM - daniel871: They have something for everything else but that.
Jul 21, 2015 8:55 AM - Stephen Capistron: heh, CREO charges you to get into their tutorials
Jul 21, 2015 8:55 AM - daniel871: So does Lynda.com, you just get access to a ton of stuff.
Jul 21, 2015 8:56 AM - daniel871: And they actually prepare you for certification tests for some of the stuff.
Jul 21, 2015 8:56 AM - daniel871: (and they have some pretty thorough Solidworks courses)
Jul 21, 2015 8:59 AM - daniel871: Oooh, a sick burn here.
Jul 21, 2015 8:59 AM - daniel871:
Jul 21, 2015 9:00 AM - Stephen Capistron: there is finally getting to be some good backlash against public money to stadiums
Jul 21, 2015 9:01 AM - daniel871: Shame nobody cares about NASA though.
Jul 21, 2015 9:02 AM - daniel871: All that money that went into the F-35 could have done some actual good in space exploration research and such.
Jul 21, 2015 9:03 AM - Stephen Capistron: trickle down technology
Jul 21, 2015 9:03 AM - daniel871: Holy shit.
Jul 21, 2015 9:09 AM - Mike Kelly: i really hate the number of conflicting terms for the hot end area
Jul 21, 2015 9:09 AM - Mike Glass: thats what she said.
Jul 21, 2015 9:09 AM - Mike Kelly: nozzle and extruder being the most ambiguous
Jul 21, 2015 9:09 AM - daniel871: Hotend = nozzle, coldend = extruder?
Jul 21, 2015 9:09 AM - jbigler1986: yeah
Jul 21, 2015 9:10 AM - jbigler1986: well hotend is more than just the nozzle but yeah
Jul 21, 2015 9:12 AM - Mike Kelly: right, a nozzle is just the brass part on the end, but sometimes people will call the whole hot end a nozzle
Jul 21, 2015 9:12 AM - Mike Kelly: where a hot end consists of a nozzle, a heater block, a heatsink, and sometimes a heat break
Jul 21, 2015 9:13 AM - Stephen Capistron: i just missed out on same day delivery of a new pump for my washing machine
Jul 21, 2015 9:14 AM - Stephen Capistron: I was 15 minutes too late
Jul 21, 2015 9:14 AM - Mike Kelly: lame
Jul 21, 2015 9:15 AM - Stephen Capistron: thats what i get for calling the local repair place to see if they would price match
Jul 21, 2015 9:17 AM - Stephen Capistron: $120 from the local place, $60 from amazon
Jul 21, 2015 9:17 AM - jbigler1986: wow
Jul 21, 2015 9:17 AM - daniel871: You know what would be cool? A screw/worm driven extruder like the what I think of when I think of an extruder due to the one we have where I work.
Jul 21, 2015 9:18 AM - daniel871: Would promptly cut the filament off as it ran though.
Jul 21, 2015 9:19 AM - Mike Kelly: isn't that what stratasys uses
Jul 21, 2015 9:19 AM - jbigler1986: MK did you look at the ultimaker drive gears i got from robotdigg
Jul 21, 2015 9:19 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah they're tiny
Jul 21, 2015 9:19 AM - daniel871: I have no idea what stratasys uses.
Jul 21, 2015 9:19 AM - Mike Kelly: i think they use two worm gears like a screw turbine
Jul 21, 2015 9:20 AM - daniel871: Always somebody thinks up something before I do.
Jul 21, 2015 9:20 AM - jbigler1986: how do they look?
Jul 21, 2015 9:20 AM - Mike Kelly: i'm not sure i've just heard rumors
Jul 21, 2015 9:20 AM - Mike Kelly: i hear they also use more of a ribbon filament as opposed to circular
Jul 21, 2015 9:21 AM - jbigler1986: i meant the ultimaker drive gears. lol
Jul 21, 2015 9:21 AM - Mike Glass: you can make filament for it using a pasta maker
Jul 21, 2015 9:21 AM - Mike Kelly: ohh
Jul 21, 2015 9:21 AM - Mike Kelly: they looked pretty good
Jul 21, 2015 9:22 AM - jbigler1986: enough meat on them to bore out?
Jul 21, 2015 9:23 AM - Mike Kelly: to 6mm?
Jul 21, 2015 9:23 AM - Mike Kelly: i'm not sure about that
Jul 21, 2015 9:23 AM - Mike Kelly: they're really small
Jul 21, 2015 9:23 AM - Mike Kelly: i'll snap some pictures when i take lunch
Jul 21, 2015 9:23 AM - Stephen Capistron: i thought werner berry had some sort of screw drive extruder at some point
Jul 21, 2015 9:23 AM - jbigler1986: sweet

 

Jul 21, 2015 9:24 AM - Mike Kelly: orly stephen
Jul 21, 2015 9:24 AM - Stephen Capistron: I really want shit to stop breaking around here. My modem has been fritzing out lately
Jul 21, 2015 9:24 AM - jbigler1986: what about using them as the idler? giving more grip
Jul 21, 2015 9:25 AM - Mike Glass: get off dial up Stephen.
Jul 21, 2015 9:25 AM - Stephen Capistron: that's rich coming from a Montanan
Jul 21, 2015 9:25 AM - jbigler1986: hold on. brb. gotta sign out. i have a phone call
Jul 21, 2015 9:26 AM - Mike Glass: haha, I have had over at t-1 for over 15 years.
Jul 21, 2015 9:26 AM - Stephen Capistron:
Jul 21, 2015 9:26 AM - Mike Glass: actually I was the first wireless customer in montana to have a t-1 to the home in the early 90's
Jul 21, 2015 9:27 AM - jbigler1986: so first out of 10 people?
Jul 21, 2015 9:27 AM - Mike Glass: my cousins internet company has over 12000 wireless subscribers now.
Jul 21, 2015 9:27 AM - donhuevo: haha
Jul 21, 2015 9:28 AM - donhuevo: so your cousin must be living like a Montana gangsta
Jul 21, 2015 9:28 AM - Mike Glass: One of the first internet comapanies.
Jul 21, 2015 9:29 AM - jbigler1986: that's alot of pagers MG
Jul 21, 2015 9:29 AM - Mike Glass: not pagers, JB, actual wireless internet to the home
Jul 21, 2015 9:30 AM - jbigler1986: do you have blacktail and whitetail deer or just one or the other
Jul 21, 2015 9:30 AM - Mike Glass: whitetail
Jul 21, 2015 9:30 AM - donhuevo: I freaked out the first time I saw a black squirrel
Jul 21, 2015 9:31 AM - Stephen Capistron:
Jul 21, 2015 9:31 AM - Stephen Capistron: We had black squirrels running around UMass all the time
Jul 21, 2015 9:31 AM - donhuevo: I'm sure I'll freak out again when they start coming in calico
Jul 21, 2015 9:35 AM - Stephen Capistron: with an albino will you pass out?
Jul 21, 2015 9:35 AM - donhuevo: definitely
Jul 21, 2015 9:35 AM - Mike Kelly: http://i.imgur.com/wn5aJKf.gifv
Jul 21, 2015 9:36 AM - Stephen Capistron:
Jul 21, 2015 9:37 AM - Mike Kelly: http://imgur.com/gallery/PU5BE this whole album is good
Jul 21, 2015 9:37 AM - donhuevo: no friggin' way...
Jul 21, 2015 9:38 AM - donhuevo: there just is nothing left to see
Jul 21, 2015 9:38 AM - Aaron Mitchell: http://img12.deviantart.net/85b0/i/2009/345/a/8/rainbow_squirrel_by_digitalsprite.png
Jul 21, 2015 9:40 AM - Mike Kelly: can i have that squirrel as a pet
Jul 21, 2015 9:40 AM - Mike Kelly: omg 3d content central has the absolute worst search
Jul 21, 2015 9:40 AM - Stephen Capistron:
Jul 21, 2015 9:43 AM - Mike Glass: hmm that extruder idea with a screw is pretty cool.
Jul 21, 2015 9:43 AM - Stephen Capistron: ain't it
Jul 21, 2015 9:43 AM - Mike Glass: and cheap parts..lol
Jul 21, 2015 9:44 AM - Stephen Capistron: those 25# pails are pricey
Jul 21, 2015 9:44 AM - Mike Kelly: i've been trying to think of ways to use a worm gear to do low profile bed leveling
Jul 21, 2015 9:44 AM - Mike Kelly: but i keep getting stuck on how to secure the mechanism after leveling
Jul 21, 2015 9:44 AM - Mike Glass: one would probably out live the printer
Jul 21, 2015 9:45 AM - Mike Glass: Hot glue Mike
Jul 21, 2015 9:45 AM - Stephen Capistron: A 1/4-20 bolt through a lock washer isn't good enough?
Jul 21, 2015 9:45 AM - Stephen Capistron: more specifically, a nylok
Jul 21, 2015 9:46 AM - Mike Kelly: ?
Jul 21, 2015 9:46 AM - jbigler1986: couldn't you just insert a small bolt with a spring under where the magnets go?
Jul 21, 2015 9:47 AM - Mike Kelly: well the bolt can't go any lower than the bracket
Jul 21, 2015 9:47 AM - jbigler1986: yeah didn't know how much room under there was
Jul 21, 2015 9:47 AM - Mike Kelly: barely anything
Jul 21, 2015 9:48 AM - Mike Glass: put bigger pillow blocks under it.
Jul 21, 2015 9:48 AM - Mike Kelly: i don't want to sacrifice Z height
Jul 21, 2015 9:48 AM - Stephen Capistron: even 5mm?
Jul 21, 2015 9:48 AM - Mike Glass: Lower the Z plate..lol
Jul 21, 2015 9:49 AM - jbigler1986: go beast then you are good
Jul 21, 2015 9:49 AM - Mike Kelly: hah
Jul 21, 2015 9:50 AM - Mike Kelly: one idea i've been toying with is instead of having the middle plate mount on the top side of the plastic plate, you mount it from below
Jul 21, 2015 9:50 AM - Mike Glass: Beast would be cool, if i ordered 600mm lead screws.
Jul 21, 2015 9:51 AM - donhuevo: straight ones?
Jul 21, 2015 9:51 AM - Mike Glass: yea that too.
Jul 21, 2015 9:51 AM - jbigler1986: so if i level with dial indicator and don't use M565 should I even use G29?
Jul 21, 2015 9:51 AM - Mike Kelly: nope
Jul 21, 2015 9:52 AM - Mike Kelly: you'd probably still want a z offset
Jul 21, 2015 9:52 AM - jbigler1986: well I do G1 Z.. G92 Z0 or whatever it is
Jul 21, 2015 9:53 AM - Mike Kelly: ugh why don't companies just give 3d models of their parts!
Jul 21, 2015 9:54 AM - Mike Kelly: do people really just not design systems
Jul 21, 2015 9:54 AM - jbigler1986: afraid of how easy to copy it
Jul 21, 2015 9:55 AM - donhuevo: I just take the calipers to it and redraw
Jul 21, 2015 9:55 AM - Mike Kelly: that's why i like kimray, they just defeature the internals and release the part file
Jul 21, 2015 9:55 AM - Mike Kelly: can't take calipers to a part we don't own
Jul 21, 2015 9:55 AM - donhuevo: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:394288
Jul 21, 2015 9:56 AM - donhuevo: if you need it, you need it
Jul 21, 2015 9:59 AM - Stephen Capistron:
Jul 21, 2015 9:59 AM - Stephen Capistron: instead of having the hump on the y-axis bracket put a through hole in with a recess for a nylok nut
Jul 21, 2015 10:00 AM - Stephen Capistron: use a steel cap screw as your height adjustment
Jul 21, 2015 10:00 AM - daniel871: How would you keep it from lifting up?
Jul 21, 2015 10:01 AM - daniel871: Or is the recess hidden?
Jul 21, 2015 10:01 AM - Mike Kelly: how do you adjust it
Jul 21, 2015 10:01 AM - Stephen Capistron: hot glue and gravity
Jul 21, 2015 10:01 AM - daniel871: I could see that being do-able if it was recessed like the tensioner adjustment on the Wade.
Jul 21, 2015 10:01 AM - Stephen Capistron: just turn the cap screw with an open ended wrench
Jul 21, 2015 10:02 AM - Stephen Capistron: Or that, slide them in from the side
Jul 21, 2015 10:02 AM - daniel871: With a captive nut inside it and a tight enough fit to keep it from vibrating.
Jul 21, 2015 10:03 AM - daniel871: Or maybe the captive nut areas on the direct drive extruder mounts would be a more direct comparison, except vertical instead of horizontal.
Jul 21, 2015 10:03 AM - Stephen Capistron: Put two in the front and a fixed single support in the back so the bed has three points of contact
Jul 21, 2015 10:05 AM - Stephen Capistron: it is way easier to level a three legged stool versus a four
Jul 21, 2015 10:07 AM - jbigler1986: got a sketch of this idea?
Jul 21, 2015 10:07 AM - Stephen Capistron: the pic above is as far as i was willing to go at this time
Jul 21, 2015 10:07 AM - Stephen Capistron: too lazy to import the hardware you know
Jul 21, 2015 10:08 AM - donhuevo: did you see that jb? daniel said 'vibrating'
Jul 21, 2015 10:09 AM - jbigler1986: lol
Jul 21, 2015 10:18 AM - donhuevo: I need to make a wall-mount bracket for this
Jul 21, 2015 10:19 AM - donhuevo: and I forgot to bring the damned calipers to work again
Jul 21, 2015 10:20 AM - Stephen Capistron: so guess
Jul 21, 2015 10:21 AM - donhuevo: I have a couple days to print two of them so I'll draw something up tonight
Jul 21, 2015 10:23 AM - Stephen Capistron: is that an answering machine?
Jul 21, 2015 10:23 AM - Mike Glass: who uses that old technology
Jul 21, 2015 10:24 AM - donhuevo: someone who doesn't want to spend $700 for a phone system messaging system
Jul 21, 2015 10:24 AM - Stephen Capistron: you need the wall mounts to hang them up as historical artifacts of technology?
Jul 21, 2015 10:24 AM - Mike Glass: I thought those went out with cassette tapes
Jul 21, 2015 10:24 AM - Stephen Capistron: depending on your field you might need to archive the tapes for some period of time
Jul 21, 2015 10:25 AM - donhuevo: it's digital! 60 whole minutes!

 

Jul 21, 2015 10:25 AM - Mike Glass: Do they make them with tape?
Jul 21, 2015 10:25 AM - Stephen Capistron: no regulatory need for archiving?
Jul 21, 2015 10:26 AM - donhuevo: not for our purposes no
Jul 21, 2015 10:26 AM - donhuevo: $30 vs $700
Jul 21, 2015 10:41 AM - Mike Kelly: i'm not sure why people buy a 3d printer when they can't afford to keep it up
Jul 21, 2015 10:42 AM - donhuevo: maybe a nice cardboard sign that reads 'Will Work for Filament'
Jul 21, 2015 10:44 AM - Stephen Capistron: thats called 3dhubs
Jul 21, 2015 10:44 AM - Stephen Capistron: MK, initial thoughts on my 2 second low profile adjuster?
Jul 21, 2015 10:45 AM - Mike Kelly: still not sure how you'd get a wrench under it
Jul 21, 2015 10:47 AM - Stephen Capistron: it only needs to fit between the glass and the end y bracket
Jul 21, 2015 10:47 AM - Stephen Capistron: or were you thinking of leveling back at the pillow blocks
Jul 21, 2015 10:47 AM - Mike Kelly: i still think the magnets needs to sit in a recess
Jul 21, 2015 10:47 AM - Mike Kelly: no on the bracket
Jul 21, 2015 10:49 AM - Stephen Capistron: If you get rid of those humps that are there now there is a ton of extra room to play with
Jul 21, 2015 10:49 AM - Stephen Capistron: if you think it would require a "hat" on top of the cap screw to capture the magnet that would be as short as it gets
Jul 21, 2015 10:50 AM - Mike Glass: just tram the glass bed with a wet grinder..
Jul 21, 2015 10:51 AM - jbigler1986: HA
Jul 21, 2015 10:51 AM - jbigler1986: i would prefer to make adjustments
Jul 21, 2015 10:51 AM - Stephen Capistron: i don't like the recess because one of my magnets was off just enough where it would want to pop out of its hole and make the bed very crooked
Jul 21, 2015 10:52 AM - Mike Kelly: hmm
Jul 21, 2015 10:52 AM - Mike Kelly: the recess it supposed to maintain the position of the bed with help from the magnets
Jul 21, 2015 10:52 AM - Stephen Capistron: I have tiny little spacer magnets in mine now to get it out of the recesses
Jul 21, 2015 10:53 AM - Mike Kelly: interesting
Jul 21, 2015 10:53 AM - Stephen Capistron: thats right i got magnets with my magnets with my magnets
Jul 21, 2015 10:53 AM - Mike Kelly: i heard you like magnets
Jul 21, 2015 10:53 AM - Stephen Capistron: I can move the bed back and forth via the glass it it stays put
Jul 21, 2015 10:54 AM - Stephen Capistron: Got to get the N52 ones though
Jul 21, 2015 10:54 AM - Mike Kelly: where did you find those?
Jul 21, 2015 10:56 AM - Stephen Capistron: I doubt the ones i'm using on the bed are N52, but i got them at home depot
Jul 21, 2015 10:57 AM - toy: whos gonna print this? http://www.3ders.org/articles/20150...rm-hopes-to-bring-robotics-to-the-masses.html
Jul 21, 2015 10:57 AM - Stephen Capistron: As an aside i always read that in my mind as "home of pots"
Jul 21, 2015 10:58 AM - Mike Kelly: Home De Pot
Jul 21, 2015 10:58 AM - Mike Kelly: someone should open a dispensary here named that
Jul 21, 2015 10:58 AM - BryZad: Hey Mike
Jul 21, 2015 10:58 AM - Mike Kelly: nice robot
Jul 21, 2015 10:58 AM - Mike Kelly: hey brad
Jul 21, 2015 10:58 AM - Stephen Capistron: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Master-M...th-Magnet-Discs-10-per-Pack-07045HD/202526363
Jul 21, 2015 10:59 AM - BryZad: Hey is the z upgrade worth it ?
Jul 21, 2015 10:59 AM - Mike Kelly: ask me again tomorrow
Jul 21, 2015 10:59 AM - toy: lol i bought 2 packets of those the other day stephen
Jul 21, 2015 10:59 AM - BryZad: Ha ha
Jul 21, 2015 10:59 AM - toy: 1 set for 3d printing , 1 set for child proofing drawers =)
Jul 21, 2015 11:00 AM - BryZad: I saw you could order the kit from RoBo now
Jul 21, 2015 11:00 AM - Mike Kelly: wish i knew home depot sold those when i bought my last set
Jul 21, 2015 11:01 AM - BryZad: I was tempted to buy them last night
Jul 21, 2015 11:01 AM - Stephen Capistron: homedepot has better magnets than lowes
Jul 21, 2015 11:02 AM - BryZad: Thought I would ask if anyone had positive feedback
Jul 21, 2015 11:03 AM - toy: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NSK-Ground-...674?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3397539a32 i made an offer of 200$ for this
Jul 21, 2015 11:03 AM - Mike Glass: Hey Bry
Jul 21, 2015 11:04 AM - BryZad: Hey Mike g
Jul 21, 2015 11:04 AM - toy: im addicted to buying linear motion components =\
Jul 21, 2015 11:05 AM - Mike Glass: I will install my leads on friday, waiting on a new fan for psu
Jul 21, 2015 11:05 AM - BryZad: Hey Mike G I bought 2 new parts fans for my printer
Jul 21, 2015 11:06 AM - BryZad: Any ideas or recommend on high cfm fans ?
Jul 21, 2015 11:07 AM - Mike Kelly: man i wish i had money to build a CNC
Jul 21, 2015 11:07 AM - Mike Kelly: i should expand, a heavy duty stainless milling CNC
Jul 21, 2015 11:07 AM - Mike Glass: cooling part fans?
Jul 21, 2015 11:07 AM - Stephen Capistron: can build a lathe for cheap
Jul 21, 2015 11:08 AM - BryZad: I wired the two I got in parallel and have to kick up the output to 200 to get airflow
Jul 21, 2015 11:08 AM - Mike Kelly: what fans did you get
Jul 21, 2015 11:08 AM - BryZad: Yea parts fans
Jul 21, 2015 11:08 AM - Mike Glass: I use the evercools
Jul 21, 2015 11:08 AM - Stephen Capistron: sunon is a good "industrial" brand
Jul 21, 2015 11:09 AM - toy: do it MK
Jul 21, 2015 11:09 AM - BryZad: Mike can you send me a link in a message I am on my phone
Jul 21, 2015 11:09 AM - toy: sell half your liver to finance the cnc
Jul 21, 2015 11:09 AM - Stephen Capistron: http://concretelathe.wikispaces.com/
Jul 21, 2015 11:09 AM - toy: and my calibers and indicator just arrived....woohoo
Jul 21, 2015 11:10 AM - donhuevo: frame that certification before you get a coffee stain on it
Jul 21, 2015 11:10 AM - daniel871: Lol
Jul 21, 2015 11:10 AM - toy: good call
Jul 21, 2015 11:11 AM - Mike Glass: Pm sent Bry
Jul 21, 2015 11:12 AM - Mike Glass: 5000RPM, 6.24CFM
Jul 21, 2015 11:12 AM - toy: nice... the certification is in just about all Japanese
Jul 21, 2015 11:13 AM - Stephen Capistron: so how do you even know if it is right?
Jul 21, 2015 11:13 AM - toy: ahhh good question
Jul 21, 2015 11:13 AM - toy: at the bottom it says passed ???
Jul 21, 2015 11:13 AM - donhuevo: boom
Jul 21, 2015 11:13 AM - jbigler1986: I can make you one
Jul 21, 2015 11:14 AM - BryZad: Do you use the same wires and wire them in parallel
Jul 21, 2015 11:14 AM - donhuevo: I can print up an official rubber stamp seal
Jul 21, 2015 11:14 AM - toy: but will it have QC Manager T.Suzuki signature on it?
Jul 21, 2015 11:14 AM - toy: i think not =)
Jul 21, 2015 11:15 AM - jbigler1986: even better. Chuck Norris
Jul 21, 2015 11:15 AM - donhuevo: no. M. Kawasaki
Jul 21, 2015 11:17 AM - donhuevo: and I'll use this for the stamp...
Jul 21, 2015 11:17 AM - BryZad: Thanks Mike
Jul 21, 2015 11:17 AM - toy: i dont think t. suzuki would approve
Jul 21, 2015 11:18 AM - donhuevo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Bureau_of_Weights_and_Measures
Jul 21, 2015 11:19 AM - donhuevo: and I'll photoshop a picture of T. Suzuki using one of the calipers off the assembly line as a back scratcher
Jul 21, 2015 11:25 AM - toy: nice
Jul 21, 2015 11:26 AM - daniel871: Butt scratcher would be more appropriate.
Jul 21, 2015 11:27 AM - toy: wow u spend 130$ on calibers and they give you a gimped battery... wtf
Jul 21, 2015 11:27 AM - jbigler1986: certified though
Jul 21, 2015 11:28 AM - donhuevo: apparently a lot of stuff had to be measured to certify it
Jul 21, 2015 11:28 AM - daniel871: Certified in 1999.
Jul 21, 2015 11:29 AM - jbigler1986:
Jul 21, 2015 11:29 AM - toy: i dont see any date on the certificate
Jul 21, 2015 11:29 AM - toy: but it does have a issue number
Jul 21, 2015 11:31 AM - daniel871: Here are 3,000 certificates, put one in each box.

 

Jul 21, 2015 11:32 AM - toy: u have to match the serial number however
Jul 21, 2015 11:35 AM - donhuevo:
Jul 21, 2015 11:38 AM - donhuevo: or more like this?
Jul 21, 2015 11:38 AM - toy: that be the one
Jul 21, 2015 11:39 AM - toy: except no M.sato
Jul 21, 2015 11:41 AM - daniel871: I was going to make a joke about an anime but that may be too nerdy even for this chat box.
Jul 21, 2015 11:48 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Well, first print with new screws looked good...now doing first print from LCD XXL SD card...
Jul 21, 2015 11:48 AM - Mike Glass: and Aaron is the winner.
Jul 21, 2015 11:50 AM - Aaron Mitchell: You don't have yours in yet?
Jul 21, 2015 11:51 AM - Mike Glass: nope going to do it when i replace the psu fan
Jul 21, 2015 11:52 AM - Mike Kelly: https://www.dropbox.com/s/iawrtykdib7x4jo/00051.MTS?dl=0
Jul 21, 2015 11:52 AM - Mike Kelly: do your guys do this
Jul 21, 2015 11:52 AM - toy: my dial indicator is pretty nice also, but lacking certification
Jul 21, 2015 11:53 AM - BryZad: Aaron was looking at the upgrade for my R1 also
Jul 21, 2015 11:53 AM - Mike Glass: yep bent like a bitch
Jul 21, 2015 11:53 AM - BryZad: You think it is worth it ?
Jul 21, 2015 11:53 AM - Aaron Mitchell: CRAP
Jul 21, 2015 11:54 AM - Aaron Mitchell: Closed Simplify and the printer stopped...
Jul 21, 2015 11:54 AM - Mike Kelly: i hate when i do that
Jul 21, 2015 11:54 AM - Mike Kelly: simplify3d needs more warnings for stuff like that
Jul 21, 2015 11:54 AM - Mike Glass: I noticed on two of them right away MK
Jul 21, 2015 11:54 AM - Stephen Capistron: I think your shit is bent
Jul 21, 2015 11:54 AM - Aaron Mitchell: I wasn't running off Simplify
Jul 21, 2015 11:54 AM - Mike Kelly: it's bent like at the entry point
Jul 21, 2015 11:54 AM - Mike Kelly: i'm gonna check my other one
Jul 21, 2015 11:54 AM - Aaron Mitchell: I ran the print straight from the SD on the XXL
Jul 21, 2015 11:54 AM - BryZad: Bent in shipping Mike ?
Jul 21, 2015 11:54 AM - toy: wheres t. suzuki when u need him
Jul 21, 2015 11:54 AM - Mike Kelly: i think so
Jul 21, 2015 11:54 AM - Mike Kelly: i'm trying to talk to jerry right now
Jul 21, 2015 11:55 AM - Mike Glass: OK, I was going to message him and ask what I am suppose to do with these.
Jul 21, 2015 11:55 AM - toy: maybe robo can hire M. Sato for qc?
Jul 21, 2015 11:55 AM - Stephen Capistron: No wonder it only adds $20 to the COGs
Jul 21, 2015 11:56 AM - Mike Glass: epic fail if you ask me.
Jul 21, 2015 11:56 AM - BryZad: I thinking it might be a good investment for my printer I got alot of halo weapons I need to work on and sanding is slowing me down a bit
Jul 21, 2015 11:56 AM - daniel871: Or just look at things before shipping them.
Jul 21, 2015 11:56 AM - donhuevo: I take back what I said earlier about having seen it all with the calico squirrel. I think I just saw MK's bent rod
Jul 21, 2015 11:56 AM - daniel871: I mean, that picture someone posted earlier today of fucked up lead screw threads is unacceptable.
Jul 21, 2015 11:57 AM - daniel871: A slight bend or whatever, okay, that might be missed if you don't put it on a flat surface to check, but clean threads should be the first thing to look at.
Jul 21, 2015 11:58 AM - BryZad: I hope they can just have straight rods they can ship not have to have the whole stepper
Jul 21, 2015 11:58 AM - daniel871: The picture I'm thinking of looked like someone took a pair of vise grip pliers to them and cranked on them.
Jul 21, 2015 11:58 AM - jbigler1986: messed up screw threads?
Jul 21, 2015 11:58 AM - daniel871: Yeah, I forget who posted them.
Jul 21, 2015 11:58 AM - Mike Glass: yea thats what mine looked like.
Jul 21, 2015 11:59 AM - Mike Glass: vice grip or a vise was used
Jul 21, 2015 11:59 AM - daniel871: But they were burred and fucked up to the point that the threads were barely there.
Jul 21, 2015 11:59 AM - Stephen Capistron: The threaded rod is brazen or welded right to the magnets
Jul 21, 2015 11:59 AM - jbigler1986: should have ordered the ones from amazon
Jul 21, 2015 11:59 AM - Mike Glass: OMC is my next order
Jul 21, 2015 11:59 AM - daniel871: Next time I'll know better.
Jul 21, 2015 11:59 AM - daniel871: If the ones I get aren't right.
Jul 21, 2015 11:59 AM - jbigler1986: they will probably work too
Jul 21, 2015 11:59 AM - daniel871: Should come in today.
Jul 21, 2015 12:00 PM - BryZad: Do they have a flash for the software and setps out for them also ?
Jul 21, 2015 12:00 PM - Mike Glass: just change your z steps
Jul 21, 2015 12:01 PM - BryZad: To what ?
Jul 21, 2015 12:01 PM - Mike Glass: 800
Jul 21, 2015 12:01 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Change Z-steps to 800..Waldo has a post with the line that needs to be changed in the configuration.h file
Jul 21, 2015 12:01 PM - BryZad: Thanks Aaron
Jul 21, 2015 12:01 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Verified - 800
Jul 21, 2015 12:02 PM - daniel871: Well, that's a relief at any rate.
Jul 21, 2015 12:02 PM - daniel871: Out for delivery today. Yay.
Jul 21, 2015 12:02 PM - Mike Glass: get your straightener out
Jul 21, 2015 12:04 PM - BryZad: Just take a torch to it lol
Jul 21, 2015 12:04 PM - Aaron Mitchell:
Jul 21, 2015 12:04 PM - Mike Glass: have to build a jig now
Jul 21, 2015 12:04 PM - Aaron Mitchell: First print with new lead screws
Jul 21, 2015 12:05 PM - jbigler1986: looks great
Jul 21, 2015 12:05 PM - donhuevo: very pretty Aaron
Jul 21, 2015 12:05 PM - toy: whats the layer height their?
Jul 21, 2015 12:05 PM - Mike Glass: white also shows how bad a print is and that looks nice
Jul 21, 2015 12:05 PM - Aaron Mitchell: New accessory mounting bracket for Robo3D...
Jul 21, 2015 12:05 PM - Aaron Mitchell:
Jul 21, 2015 12:06 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Will have different tool hangars, boxes, shelves etc...that you can insert in it...
Jul 21, 2015 12:06 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Printing putty-knife attachment now...
Jul 21, 2015 12:08 PM - Mike Glass: oh your one of those.
Jul 21, 2015 12:08 PM - Aaron Mitchell: An engineer?
Jul 21, 2015 12:08 PM - Mike Glass: that uses a putty-knife
Jul 21, 2015 12:09 PM - Aaron Mitchell: non-conformist...?
Jul 21, 2015 12:09 PM - daniel871: He could have made that punchout thing.
Jul 21, 2015 12:09 PM - jbigler1986: HEY!
Jul 21, 2015 12:09 PM - daniel871:
Jul 21, 2015 12:09 PM - toy: http://www.seattletimes.com/business/gravity-payments-ceo-sued-by-brother/ lol
Jul 21, 2015 12:10 PM - daniel871: For Aaron's reference: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:872617
Jul 21, 2015 12:10 PM - daniel871: JB hates that thing.
Jul 21, 2015 12:10 PM - Aaron Mitchell: wtf...
Jul 21, 2015 12:10 PM - Aaron Mitchell: hahaahaa
Jul 21, 2015 12:11 PM - Aaron Mitchell: it's automated with a servo no less...
Jul 21, 2015 12:11 PM - daniel871: I like how all of the "Why don't you design a controller software that works you jerks" comments were deleted.
Jul 21, 2015 12:11 PM - daniel871: On that page any way.
Jul 21, 2015 12:11 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Well, I saw JB's design and got inspired to make something that didn't need to be screwed to the side of the machine...
Jul 21, 2015 12:13 PM - daniel871: So no safety enclosure for you to reduce drafts for the filaments that hate drafts, eh?
Jul 21, 2015 12:13 PM - Aaron Mitchell: I have a Dimension1200 for that
Jul 21, 2015 12:14 PM - Aaron Mitchell: You could just puta Turkey Basting Bag over the printer to hold the heat in
Jul 21, 2015 12:14 PM - daniel871: Oh so you're just playing around then.
Jul 21, 2015 12:15 PM - Aaron Mitchell: shits and giggles
Jul 21, 2015 12:17 PM - Mike Glass: lots of shits..lol
Jul 21, 2015 12:18 PM - daniel871: Did whoever said they could shit a better Marvin than the Robo was printing ever deliver?
Jul 21, 2015 12:18 PM - donhuevo: jb?
Jul 21, 2015 12:18 PM - jbigler1986: i would rather not see that

 

Jul 21, 2015 12:18 PM - BryZad: How would you print that Aaron ?
Jul 21, 2015 12:19 PM - Mike Kelly: mike out of curiosity which lead screw was bent, the one with the short lead or long?
Jul 21, 2015 12:19 PM - Mike Glass: lol
Jul 21, 2015 12:19 PM - BryZad: I want to make one you printing with alot of support material
Jul 21, 2015 12:20 PM - daniel871: JB going to find it in sledge hammered pieces with a note saying something like "and no fleshlight generator project to compliment the dildo generator for you!"
Jul 21, 2015 12:20 PM - Mike Glass: Mike i didnt realize they were different
Jul 21, 2015 12:21 PM - daniel871: Could probably put everything back together anyway as often as jb has redone everything on it.
Jul 21, 2015 12:21 PM - Mike Glass: blind folded at that
Jul 21, 2015 12:21 PM - Mike Kelly:
Jul 21, 2015 12:21 PM - daniel871: Got Bowden running well, let's go direct drive. No wait back to Bowden.
Jul 21, 2015 12:21 PM - daniel871: No wait now Dual Bowden.
Jul 21, 2015 12:21 PM - Aaron Mitchell: BryZad?
Jul 21, 2015 12:22 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Frankenbowden
Jul 21, 2015 12:22 PM - daniel871: Now proximity sensor.
Jul 21, 2015 12:22 PM - jbigler1986: yep
Jul 21, 2015 12:22 PM - daniel871: Okay now to extend the top cover and longer lead screws and rods to make it have 2' of Z travel for tall prints.
Jul 21, 2015 12:22 PM - Aaron Mitchell: JB is a non-conformist engineer, as well
Jul 21, 2015 12:23 PM - Mike Glass: I will have to check when I get home tonight MK.
Jul 21, 2015 12:23 PM - jbigler1986: nope. not making it taller
Jul 21, 2015 12:23 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Not sure what you were asking me, Bryzad
Jul 21, 2015 12:23 PM - daniel871: Then just gut the robo and use the electronics on a 4'x4'x4' variation of the Eustathios Spyder (bulked up to support the weight) and a 3mm filament hotend.
Jul 21, 2015 12:26 PM - daniel871: Someone is thinking about how to make that work right now.
Jul 21, 2015 12:26 PM - Mike Kelly: i have no idea why you'd want a printer that big
Jul 21, 2015 12:26 PM - Mike Glass: MK is happy with the Tiko size.
Jul 21, 2015 12:26 PM - donhuevo: you could print an entire car fender
Jul 21, 2015 12:27 PM - donhuevo: doors
Jul 21, 2015 12:27 PM - donhuevo: rear quarter
Jul 21, 2015 12:27 PM - donhuevo: deck lid
Jul 21, 2015 12:27 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah but it would still look 3d printed
Jul 21, 2015 12:27 PM - donhuevo: glossy metallic flake paint is so last year
Jul 21, 2015 12:28 PM - Mike Glass: throw some bondo on it and smooth it out.
Jul 21, 2015 12:28 PM - donhuevo: bring back tailfins
Jul 21, 2015 12:28 PM - Mike Glass: and huge metal hood ornaments
Jul 21, 2015 12:29 PM - Aaron Mitchell:
Jul 21, 2015 12:30 PM - Aaron Mitchell: 3D printed house....
Jul 21, 2015 12:30 PM - Mike Kelly: is it just me or is the imgur app really bad at uploading
Jul 21, 2015 12:30 PM - donhuevo: not enough overlap
Jul 21, 2015 12:30 PM - Stephen Capistron: Ha, I saw a Mitsubishi eclipse yesterday with a partial rolls Royse grill on the front
Jul 21, 2015 12:32 PM - jbigler1986: That what i'm talking about
Jul 21, 2015 12:33 PM - Stephen Capistron: Like half of the waterfall and the hood ornament
Jul 21, 2015 12:33 PM - donhuevo: did I see this here?
Jul 21, 2015 12:35 PM - Aaron Mitchell: WOnder if that guy received the Darwin award yet?
Jul 21, 2015 12:35 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah you did don
Jul 21, 2015 12:35 PM - Aaron Mitchell: These people think they created a revolutionary new way to build houses:
Jul 21, 2015 12:35 PM - donhuevo: wasn't sure
Jul 21, 2015 12:35 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Apparently, they never heard of LEGOS
Jul 21, 2015 12:36 PM - daniel871: More for large artistic models that someone would have trouble chiseling by hand but no problem modeling on a computer and exporting as an STL.
Jul 21, 2015 12:36 PM - Mike Kelly: not the worst idea though aaron
Jul 21, 2015 12:37 PM - daniel871: Oh damnit, power fluctuation killed the big CNC at work in the middle of a program.
Jul 21, 2015 12:37 PM - Mike Kelly: but definitely a lego house
Jul 21, 2015 12:37 PM - daniel871: As in actual lightning hit the building and went through the power line the machine runs off of, but grounded out before getting to the actual PC components.
Jul 21, 2015 12:38 PM - daniel871: Peeled paint off the frame going over to where the grounding comes off of it and goes into the floor/dirt beneath the building.
Jul 21, 2015 12:39 PM - daniel871: Fuckers won't let me take a picture.
Jul 21, 2015 12:39 PM - Aaron Mitchell: MK> They were just saying it was a new and revolutionary idea...
Jul 21, 2015 12:39 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Daniel > :O
Jul 21, 2015 12:40 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Is it a top-secret CNC build?
Jul 21, 2015 12:40 PM - Mike Kelly: jb: http://i.imgur.com/WLJByol.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FX5yAsC.jpg
Jul 21, 2015 12:40 PM - daniel871: No, it's a Stratos CNC.
Jul 21, 2015 12:40 PM - Mike Kelly: it's his work CNC
Jul 21, 2015 12:40 PM - daniel871: Not a top secret build, but probably paranoia about product in the background.
Jul 21, 2015 12:40 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Just wondering why they wouldn't let him take a picture
Jul 21, 2015 12:41 PM - Aaron Mitchell: ahh...
Jul 21, 2015 12:41 PM - daniel871: I was able to take photos of trade show stuff I worked on, but not our actual shop stuff.
Jul 21, 2015 12:42 PM - Mike Kelly: what does your company make?
Jul 21, 2015 12:42 PM - daniel871: Stuff for paper making machinery.
Jul 21, 2015 12:43 PM - Mike Kelly: oh right
Jul 21, 2015 12:44 PM - daniel871: Man IMGUR is being a butt.
Jul 21, 2015 12:44 PM - toy: or paper money making machine?
Jul 21, 2015 12:45 PM - daniel871: Nah, the Federal Reserve has all that locked up with big time contractors. We aren't allowed anywhere near it.
Jul 21, 2015 12:45 PM - Mike Kelly: stephen this is your vision right? http://i.imgur.com/QYujVJ0.jpg?1
Jul 21, 2015 12:46 PM - Stephen Capistron: Flip the bolt over so the head touches the bed
Jul 21, 2015 12:46 PM - daniel871:
Jul 21, 2015 12:47 PM - daniel871: Probably means nothing if you don't know what it is at first glance.
Jul 21, 2015 12:47 PM - daniel871: But that's a very small one.
Jul 21, 2015 12:47 PM - Mike Kelly: looks like something for making pulp
Jul 21, 2015 12:48 PM - daniel871: Close. By the time it gets there the pulp is mostly paper and that is just pulling moisture out of it as it goes around the outside.
Jul 21, 2015 12:48 PM - jbigler1986: I'm gonna setup a JB's Hobby Fund gofundme. anyone down?
Jul 21, 2015 12:48 PM - Mike Kelly: gotcha
Jul 21, 2015 12:48 PM - jbigler1986: lol
Jul 21, 2015 12:48 PM - toy: sure
Jul 21, 2015 12:49 PM - toy: i got 5 on it
Jul 21, 2015 12:49 PM - daniel871: For the big bucks, post pics of crying kids and the locked out of the house story.
Jul 21, 2015 12:49 PM - BryZad: What's up Aaron
Jul 21, 2015 12:49 PM - daniel871: Then spread it on Facebook.
Jul 21, 2015 12:49 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Hey, Bryzad...were you asking me a question earlier?
Jul 21, 2015 12:49 PM - daniel871: But only if you don't care about losing the court cases later.
Jul 21, 2015 12:50 PM - Aaron Mitchell: JB> I'll throw in a few bucks...but you have to produce a youtube video
Jul 21, 2015 12:50 PM - jbigler1986: tell the 3d printer world my story. someone has gotta send me a printer right?
Jul 21, 2015 12:50 PM - jbigler1986: i would make a vid
Jul 21, 2015 12:50 PM - BryZad: Yea on that tool holder how are you printing it ?
Jul 21, 2015 12:50 PM - BryZad: Like orientation wise
Jul 21, 2015 12:50 PM - daniel871: BryZad wants your print settings, Aaron.
Jul 21, 2015 12:51 PM - Aaron Mitchell: On it's side, slot opening down...used minimal support...
Jul 21, 2015 12:51 PM - Aaron Mitchell: I will post it to Thingiverse later, once I have the putty-knife holster printed and fit tested
Jul 21, 2015 12:51 PM - Aaron Mitchell: Which print settings? For the screws?