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Testing of Many New Filaments

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  1. Printed Solid

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    Hello fellow Roboers!

    I had the good fortune to receive a bunch of new/sample filaments this past weekend in 1.75mm to try out. I'm working on a blog post, but am kind of behind. Two of the filaments are on a kickstarter that ends in 3 days, so I'm posting here now. Will follow up with a reply when I get the blog post done.

    I tested:
    Proto Plant Carbon Fiber Filled PLA (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...a-gourmet-food-for-your-3d-printer?ref=search)
    ProtoPlant High Temperature PLA (same kickstarter)
    colorFabb XT (colorfabb.com)
    colorFabb woodfill fine (colorfabb.com)

    Here are some pics. Parts were printed on a mix of the Robo, Replicator 1, and Ultimaker.

    Carbon Fiber:
    This stuff is incredibly stiff and prints quite well.
    Parker bridge at 300 micron. Check out that awesome bridging! No cooling fan on this BTW. http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:130096
    2013-11-16 13.52.48.jpg

    colorFabb woodfill:
    Got to print the tiki : ) 200 micron on the robo
    http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:33746
    2013-11-18 20.23.29.jpg

    And a skull 100 micron on Replicator 1
    2013-11-15 21.21.50.jpg

    High temperature PLA: I'm going to hold off on posting those pics for now because I used it for experiments that require more explanation. Short summary is that it does hold it's shape better at elevated temperatures, but requires annealing first. At the annealing temperatures, the material droops. So, you need to be able to hold it in it's shape when annealing. A water bath might work great. Not necessarily a problem, but something to consider.

    Finally, colorFabb XT.
    Heart vase at 200 micron on the robo:
    http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:42570

    This material is quite flexible, strong, bridges very well, and can be printed without a heated bed with no/minimal warping.
    2013-11-21 06.30.32.jpg 2013-11-21 06.29.24.jpg

    Twisted Nautilus vase on Repliactor 1 at 300 micron
    http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:40142
    2013-11-21 06.29.48.jpg
     

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  2. tesseract

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    looks very nice. Was it the colorfabb filament that needed the annealing
     
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    The colorFabb materials do not require annealing.

    The high temperature PLA from the protoplant kickstarter is the one that requires annealing if you want it's high temperature characteristics. Before annealing, it is very flexible, which might be a nice benefit on it's own.
     
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    they really look great
     
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    cool I ordered some from eBay (wood filament) as well as a rock/marble look, the latter using chalk and minerals. Printing well on ABS right now would satisfy me right now however.
     
  7. Mattchu

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    I definitely want to try that wood filament. I'm tired of looking at red :p
     
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    It really is good material. The material that I tested was not the laywood. It is a different filament from colorFabb that is only available for direct order from colorfabb.com.
    The material you bought from ebay is most likely laywood. I've never tried it myself so I can't say anything about the differences.

    Last night I tried running a piece where I had colored the filament with sharpie first. It definitely worked, but I didn't really like the way it looked. I might try the rich rap rit dye tye dyed filament trick on it next.
     
  9. Mattchu

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    Any one notice a different with grays and whites PLAs? I'm looking to buy some, but all the prints I've seen are either from a resin/laser machine, or look awful/melted/melty/etc.
     
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    The carbon fiber is a bit of beast to print with simply because it is stiff and not on a spool so feeding it is 'fun'.
    I have a spare empty spool I might try to spool it up on. I got by with some loops of large tyewraps :) Hey, it worked.
    The quality of the printed filament is awesome.
     
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    I would just put it on a pole or something and let it unspool itself. If you try forcing it onto a small diameter spool, you might get trouble.
     
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    Yeah, that was quite obvious. I strung a long ziptie through it and another through that and hung it from the filament pole. That seemed to work ok (but I kept my eye on it).

    It is really stiff which complicates things, but the output is righteous.
     
  13. Peter Krska

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    Can the stock hot end run carbon fibre? I believe my stock end does not have a PTFE tube.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk in Canada
     
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    The original one could not, I am not aware of whatever limitations exist on the R1 version. @Printed Solid probably knows, I think he has some R1 units.
     
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    Why are you thinking it won't work on the original? It's pretty much just PLA.
    Should work fine on the original hot end or the hexagon.
     
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    Yea, you are right, I rechecked the settings we used and it was simply 195. Nothing fancy.
     

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