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  1. danzca6

    danzca6 Well-Known Member

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    Matt sends you the quick release for the Robo and v6? Didn't know. Is it aluminum or plastic?
     
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    That's a new option. Good for him for putting that together. One more reason to send folks to him.
     
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    It's printed I noted they did the plats for the Robo bundle I email asking if they would send me one if I just orded the hotend he told me yes. Later on Facebook they told me they might add it as a option.
     
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    Matt is a great guy. he always takes care of us :D
     
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  6. RD Ghost

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    Looking at the E3D v6 Information, Installation Guides do I need to update the firmware Note: If you are using the stud thermistor from printedsolid.com, no firmware changes are required because the EPCOS thermistor it comes with is the same as on the stock Hexagon?
     
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    If you reuse the thermistor that is installed on the stock hexagon or if you use the metal stud thermistor from PrintedSolid you do not need to update the firmware. If you use the thermistor that comes with the E3D you will need to update.

    You should learn how to do the update at some point even if you decide not to for this.
     
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    Ok I have the firmware my R1+ come with 7 months ago do I need to update it?
     
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    Is there something that is fixed in the new version that you need? (hint -- no, they changed nothing of any real import).
    A good rule of thumb with equipment like this is to never 'just update the firmware'. Always know why you need it (if you need to) and what it will fix.

    It sucks to be fighting firmware related problems or worse, fighting other problems and then think that the firmware will fix it (and it won't).
     
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    That is exactly why I asked if I need it. I have had firmware updating problems in the past and they are not fun.
     
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    If you swap thermistors to the one from E3D then you will need to do the update to fix it to read the new type. Otherwise you are fine.
     
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    I do need to do the firmware Mike's firmware from the guide still good?
     
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    Should be. Post a link and I will sanity check.
    The thermistor fix is a one line change, but you may want to bump some of the other values while in there (like MIN and MAX temperatures). Get it tweaked to how you want to use it.
     
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    That firmware is for an R1, not an R1+.
    If you have an R1, it is fine. If you have the R1+ you need to use a version of the R1+ firmware and modify it.

    Essentially what is wrong with that one is the Z steps:

    #define DEFAULT_AXIS_STEPS_PER_UNIT {80,80,2560,723.38} // default steps per unit for RoBo 3D R1

    That 2560 is correct for the R1 (with threaded rods) but not for the R1+ (with leadscrews).
     
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    Robo did no favors when they poorly named the printer versions and even among those there are sometimes minor differences.
     
    #36 mark tomlinson, Nov 3, 2016
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    No that one is not right either:

    #define DEFAULT_AXIS_STEPS_PER_UNIT {80,80,2267.72,723.38} // default steps per unit for RoBo 3D R1

    The Z steps on that are for the Beta or an odd-ball R1, not the R1+.

    The Z steps for the R1+ look like this:


    #define DEFAULT_AXIS_STEPS_PER_UNIT {80,80,800,723.38} // default steps per unit for RoBo 3D R1+

    See the difference? The other two are threaded rods, the R1+ uses leadscrews.
     
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    Paste that line I gave you for the R1+ over the one in the CONFIGURATION.H for either of the other two and you are probably good.
     
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    Yeah those firmware links on Mike's thread are old. Downloading the Robo firmware from their firmware site and manually changing Max temp and thermistor type of needed under configuration.h is better.
     
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