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Unresolved Prints from right sides are getting messed up.

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  1. nierro

    nierro Member

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    Hi, I've been using my 3D printer without any problem for a long time, and this just started happening.
    The prints from the right sides are getting all messed up to the point where it looks like droplets, but the ones from left sides are perfect... Can't figure out what's causing this. I've tried Z bed leveling calibration. To the point it looks like this
    < Eqn coefficients: a: -0.00 b: 0.00 d: -0.00 <-(I think that's what I needed to calibrate right?)
    < planeNormal x: 0.00 y: -0.00 z: 1.00
    < echo:endstops hit: Z:-0.06

    Here's what the 1st layer looks like.
    [​IMG]
     
  2. nierro

    nierro Member

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    Here's a better picture...
    [​IMG]
    further right you go, worst it gets as well.
     
  3. nierro

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    Here's my G29 is that help...
    < Bed x: 15.00 y: 20.00 z: -0.12
    < Bed x: 107.00 y: 20.00 z: 0.00
    < Bed x: 199.00 y: 20.00 z: -0.11

    < Bed x: 200.00 y: 130.00 z: -0.22
    < Bed x: 108.00 y: 130.00 z: 0.06
    < Bed x: 16.00 y: 130.00 z: 0.07

    < Bed x: 15.00 y: 240.00 z: 0.14
    < Bed x: 107.00 y: 240.00 z: 0.07
    < Bed x: 199.00 y: 240.00 z: -0.06

    < Eqn coefficients: a: -0.00 b: 0.00 d: -0.00
    < planeNormal x: 0.00 y: -0.00 z: 1.00
    < echo:endstops hit: Z:-0.06
     
  4. Mike Kelly

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    Those values seem fine. Try increasing your z offset a bit
     
  5. nierro

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    At the time I took the pic it was set at .6, but before that I've tried .65 .7 .75 .8.

    I'll try .9 next, but doesn't increasing the z offset affects the filaments from sticking to the bed?
     
  6. Mike Kelly

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    It can. But you're definitely too low from the pictures.
     
  7. nierro

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    I agree. But it was the only setting where the prints on the right side would even stick to the bed. All other settings wrapped
     
  8. Mike Kelly

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    Try a different filament
     
  9. nierro

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    Just tried almost all of my non-exotic filaments, and it has the same problem :(
     
  10. nierro

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    Here's a better illustration. This was the only print I can manage to actually print without it getting knocked off due to lifting. These two prints were done at the same time. This was done using .8 z-off set which what I've been using for awhile now without any problem.
    This print was on the left side of the bed. as you can see smooth as it can be using .4mm nozzle
    [​IMG]
    This was printed on the middle side of the bed, notice the top part looks smooth as a sand paper... the lower it gets the smoother it looks. That's why I think the back right side's getting messed up.
    [​IMG]
    The print from the right side looks just like how the top of this print looks, but the whole thing is like that.
     
  11. Louis Tiger

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    I'm having a similar problem. I'm reading through the calibration threads but extra help is always nice :)
    IMG_20150725_134422.jpg IMG_20150725_134458.jpg IMG_20150725_134557.jpg IMG_20150725_134422.jpg IMG_20150725_134458.jpg IMG_20150725_134557.jpg

    The left is ok but the right is screwy.
     
  12. Mike Glass

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    Check you connections on the right z autolevel switch.
     
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  13. Louis Tiger

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    What is the best way to make sure that I've got it right? I tried holding one threaded rod and turned the other until I heard a click, then did it for the other side. I tried again and the print is a lot better but still not 100%. Is there a good youtube video of how to do it?
     
  14. nierro

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    if it stops going down, it's good.
     
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    Checked.
     
  16. Mike Glass

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    do a manual level, using a business card and see if that helps, I used to have to do that, as autolevel is not the greatest.
     
  17. Frankn

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    Well, I knew it would happen someday! I caught the same bug.
    I am running the Robo R1 supplied Matter software and the Cura slicer.
    It does it with PLA and ABS.
    I set up the height with the paper method after checking parallelism of shafts and bed mechanically.
    They are essentially parallel.. The auto level does it's think properly.
    I ran a circle composed of 5 loops as a test. It does the same thing every time.
    Circle filament deposit looks flat and thin with blobs of filament roughly 1 or 2 mm apart. from 5 o'clock to 2:30 then the loop is normal until it hits 5 o'clock again. this repeats with each loop. I have run this test about 5 times. The bed is clean.
    I tried a bat wing STL model with the same results. The extruder is tight. the nozzle is clean.
    A picture is worth a thousand words, but my camera is elsewhere at present.
    Any Ideas.
    it really gets me how a certain area can give bad print repeatly while the rest of the print is good. Frank
     
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    Probably too close to the bed where you are seeing the problem.
     
  19. WheresWaldo

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    I hate to remind you guys, but this answer makes no sense. The switches for the Z axis endstop (singular not pural) are wired in parallel, they are not separate endstops. So if the one on the right triggers or the one on the left it doesn't matter, either switch closes the circuit and triggers the endstop. If the right one were disconnected then the left one should still work as advertised and trigger the endstop.
     
  20. Mike Glass

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    I know others have had issues with auto-compensate, we all been through it, sometimes re-flashing the firmware magically makes it work again.
     
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