Shoutbox Archive

Jun 15, 2015 8:07 AM - jbigler1986: NotNgoing to work. You need something to put tension against the drive gear or it will just keep slipping
Jun 15, 2015 8:08 AM - daniel871: That would be what the bearing and tension screws would continue to do, just with the tube also in between.
Jun 15, 2015 8:08 AM - daniel871: So they work as more of a static back-pressure than something where a bearing is even needed.
Jun 15, 2015 8:09 AM - daniel871: I think the E3D thread actually shows the exact setup I'm talking about.
Jun 15, 2015 8:10 AM - daniel871: Nope.
Jun 15, 2015 8:10 AM - daniel871: Odd, I know I saw a picture of what I'm talking about somewhere on here.
Jun 15, 2015 8:10 AM - jbigler1986: That would pinch the ptfe tube
Jun 15, 2015 8:11 AM - daniel871: There was basically a little round cutout on the PTFE tube where the gear is located, and the tensioner was theoretically adjusted to just hold the tube against the gear as the filament went through (not binding pressure, but not where it would allow the filament+PTFE wall to be pushed away either).
Jun 15, 2015 8:12 AM - jbigler1986: So cutting one half of the ptfe where the gear is?
Jun 15, 2015 8:12 AM - daniel871: Yeah.
Jun 15, 2015 8:12 AM - daniel871: Not cutting all the way through the PTFE, just a relief that the gear fits into.
Jun 15, 2015 8:13 AM - Mike Kelly: ah
Jun 15, 2015 8:13 AM - daniel871: So it can grab the filament and drag it through. Would be a fairly precise thing to set up.
Jun 15, 2015 8:13 AM - Mike Kelly: i think an exacto knife is best for that
Jun 15, 2015 8:13 AM - jbigler1986: Yeah. Possible but really not a whole lot different
Jun 15, 2015 8:13 AM - Stephen Capistron: Should you try it you can probably make a pretty nice cut with an exacto by bending the ptfe tube around a mandrel and the cutting striaght
Jun 15, 2015 8:14 AM - jbigler1986: It's worth a try if you have the tube
Jun 15, 2015 8:14 AM - daniel871: Then it becomes a matter of correctly cutting the length for the hotend.
Jun 15, 2015 8:15 AM - daniel871: I've got a 20" or so length of tube to play with.
Jun 15, 2015 8:19 AM - Mike Glass: Mornin
Jun 15, 2015 8:20 AM - Mike Kelly: yo
Jun 15, 2015 8:22 AM - Mike Glass: do anything exciting this weekend MK
Jun 15, 2015 8:28 AM - daniel871: Here's a brief article for the slow news day. http://www.theonion.com/article/woman-barely-jogging-35762
Jun 15, 2015 8:28 AM - daniel871:
Jun 15, 2015 8:29 AM - daniel871: JB? http://www.theonion.com/article/man-honestly-thinks-hes-going-to-get-to-bed-early-36210
Jun 15, 2015 8:32 AM - Mike Kelly: no it was a pretty dull weekend
Jun 15, 2015 8:32 AM - Mike Kelly: in-laws were around saturday so i mostly just did some design work
Jun 15, 2015 8:33 AM - Mike Kelly: then sunday i worked on installing a natural gas line for my grill
Jun 15, 2015 8:35 AM - Stephen Capistron: with the assistance of a licensed plumber right?
Jun 15, 2015 8:35 AM - daniel871: In-laws coming over, honey? Shame about that, I've got some work I need to do in the office...
Jun 15, 2015 8:36 AM - Mike Kelly: naturally
Jun 15, 2015 8:37 AM - Mike Kelly: they were in town to try and clean out my brother-in-laws storage unit i guess
Jun 15, 2015 8:37 AM - Mike Kelly: so they were gone most of the time
Jun 15, 2015 8:37 AM - daniel871: Sure have been a lot of threads where the printer tries to run outside of the print area and grinds on the ends of the axis.
Jun 15, 2015 8:39 AM - daniel871: If I'm wanting to move the temp heatups to after the auto-home, how much should I cut and paste? From the M82 to the M109 and paste it after the G29?
Jun 15, 2015 8:39 AM - daniel871: (and insert a G1 Z5.0 before the M codes?)
Jun 15, 2015 8:41 AM - Mike Kelly: well 2 things, usually that's because there's a broken/disconnected end stop so it doesn't home properly
Jun 15, 2015 8:41 AM - Mike Kelly: though there's a chance that they're trying to go >220 on x which is past the limit
Jun 15, 2015 8:43 AM - daniel871: Yeah, I had that happen on a print where I was right at the limits of the axis, but forgot about the skirt portion of the program and it was trying to print a skirt outside the print area.
Jun 15, 2015 8:44 AM - daniel871: But I knew what the problem was when I looked at the S3D model again and generated another program.
Jun 15, 2015 8:45 AM - Stephen Capistron: cura is really good about that. even though it doesn't render the skirt or brim it will gray out the part if either of those would end in an unprintable area
Jun 15, 2015 8:45 AM - Mike Kelly: except for wipe and prime towers
Jun 15, 2015 8:45 AM - Mike Kelly: it'll stick those out of the build area no problem
Jun 15, 2015 8:46 AM - Stephen Capistron: speaking from experience i assume
Jun 15, 2015 8:47 AM - Mike Kelly: indeed
Jun 15, 2015 8:47 AM - daniel871: Is there a way to customize the G-code in S3D where it'll do the temperature heatup after the G29 automatically? It seems to be separate from the starting G-code section.
Jun 15, 2015 8:47 AM - Stephen Capistron: Side note. I'm messing around in CREO 2.0 parametric and some of the icons look like they were lifted from windows 3.11
Jun 15, 2015 8:48 AM - Stephen Capistron: you could add in a second heatup in the g-code. have the set points under the temp tab be ~60C
Jun 15, 2015 8:48 AM - Stephen Capistron: then have a second heat up after the G29
Jun 15, 2015 8:49 AM - daniel871: All still on Layer1?
Jun 15, 2015 8:50 AM - daniel871: This is for the Printinz plate.
Jun 15, 2015 8:52 AM - daniel871: Going to create a post on the S3D forum and see if anybody else has done it if I don't find an existing thread.
Jun 15, 2015 8:53 AM - Stephen Capistron: errr, before layer 1
Jun 15, 2015 8:54 AM - daniel871: Hm.
Jun 15, 2015 8:54 AM - daniel871: https://forum.simplify3d.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1089&p=6088&hilit=temp+after+home#p6087
Jun 15, 2015 8:55 AM - daniel871: Seems pretty simple.
Jun 15, 2015 8:55 AM - Stephen Capistron: M565 Z-.85 ; set the offset for auto-leveling mechanism G29 ; run auto-level M109 S220
Jun 15, 2015 8:56 AM - Stephen Capistron: that's what i was doing a poor job getting at
Jun 15, 2015 8:58 AM - Stephen Capistron: calling in the variables is even better
Jun 15, 2015 9:01 AM - daniel871: Seems to do it pretty well, other than the odd callout right at the beginning.
Jun 15, 2015 9:01 AM - daniel871: G90 M82 M106 S650 G28 ; home all axes G1 Z5 F5000 ; lift Z by 5mm M565 Z-1 ; set the offset for auto-leveling mechanism G29 ; run auto-level G1 Z5 F5000 M190 S0 M109 S185 G92 E0 G1 E-1 F1800
Jun 15, 2015 9:02 AM - daniel871: That M106 S650 is new.
Jun 15, 2015 9:02 AM - daniel871: What is M106 anyway...
Jun 15, 2015 9:03 AM - daniel871: Oh, fan speed?
Jun 15, 2015 9:03 AM - Mike Kelly: looks that way
Jun 15, 2015 9:03 AM - daniel871: 650 is way too fast.
Jun 15, 2015 9:03 AM - donhuevo: s maxes at 255
Jun 15, 2015 9:04 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah it is
Jun 15, 2015 9:04 AM - donhuevo: 255 = 100%
Jun 15, 2015 9:04 AM - daniel871: Odd, I have 60% on the setting for that.
Jun 15, 2015 9:04 AM - daniel871: (S3D default)
Jun 15, 2015 9:04 AM - Stephen Capistron: maybe they are a fan of spinal tap
Jun 15, 2015 9:04 AM - Stephen Capistron: always trying to turn it up to 11
Jun 15, 2015 9:05 AM - Mike Glass: 11 is the magical number
Jun 15, 2015 9:08 AM - Mike Kelly: but this one goes to 11
Jun 15, 2015 9:08 AM - jbigler1986: 69
Jun 15, 2015 9:08 AM - daniel871: Okay, weird.
Jun 15, 2015 9:08 AM - Mike Kelly: alright i saw a suggestion to print 2 marvins at once to help drooping
Jun 15, 2015 9:08 AM - daniel871: Posted again and it set to 255 like it should.
Jun 15, 2015 9:08 AM - Mike Kelly: hope it works
Jun 15, 2015 9:08 AM - daniel871: Guess I need to look at the code just to verify the starting code works right every time.
Jun 15, 2015 9:09 AM - daniel871: But that modified starting code and temp setting looks like it should do what I want without having to worry about destroying the printinz plate.
Jun 15, 2015 9:10 AM - daniel871: Now to just have the heat breaks come in so I can put things back together.
Jun 15, 2015 9:12 AM - Stephen Capistron: Printing two an inch or two apart should work well. Especially if they are front to back so the fan passes right over them
Jun 15, 2015 9:14 AM - Mike Kelly: rep2x doesn't have a fan
Jun 15, 2015 9:14 AM - Mike Glass:
Jun 15, 2015 9:15 AM - daniel871: Rep2x pure ABS or other cooling-sensitive printer?
Jun 15, 2015 9:16 AM - Mike Kelly: if this one doesn't work i should probably try a different filament
Jun 15, 2015 9:16 AM - Mike Kelly: i'm also printing this much faster, no slowdown
Jun 15, 2015 9:16 AM - Mike Kelly: minimize the dwell time
Jun 15, 2015 9:16 AM - Mike Glass: cant you turn down the heat?
Jun 15, 2015 9:17 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah i can
Jun 15, 2015 9:18 AM - Stephen Capistron: i've experienced PETG not liking being under the hot nozzle for very long so messing with the dwell time doesn't help much unless you actually move the print head away
Jun 15, 2015 9:20 AM - daniel871: Printinz Plate code
Jun 15, 2015 9:22 AM - Mike Glass: dwell isnt that dandy
Jun 15, 2015 9:23 AM - daniel871: Just noticed a possible problem, the old settings would have an M140 followed by an M190 for the bed temp, then M104 followed by an M109 for the hotend temp.
Jun 15, 2015 9:24 AM - daniel871: Wonder if I should add those into the starting G-code bit so that it basically does the auto-level, just to make sure it gets to temp before attempting to extrude.
Jun 15, 2015 9:25 AM - daniel871: Grammar error in there, but hopefully that still makes sense.
Jun 15, 2015 9:33 AM - daniel871: That looks better:
Jun 15, 2015 9:34 AM - Mike Kelly: looks fine to me

 

Jun 15, 2015 9:34 AM - daniel871: Would be nice if I got my heatbreaks in the mail today.
Jun 15, 2015 9:34 AM - daniel871: Then I could test it this evening after putting my printer back together.
Jun 15, 2015 9:36 AM - daniel871: Stupid USPS tracking system not showing shipping progress for a shipment generated two days ago.
Jun 15, 2015 9:40 AM - daniel871: On a side note, someone decided to one-up Costco. http://www.upworthy.com/right-after...employees-salaries-business-is-booming?c=ufb3
Jun 15, 2015 9:44 AM - jbigler1986: USPS tracking is horrible
Jun 15, 2015 9:49 AM - Mike Glass: $75k here is like $120k in most other states here.
Jun 15, 2015 9:49 AM - jbigler1986: yeah autolevel before reaching extruder temp is nice. then you don't get the damn boogers everywhere
Jun 15, 2015 9:50 AM - Stephen Capistron: If you have some dried stuff on there it might really mess you up though
Jun 15, 2015 9:50 AM - daniel871: It'll basically be a whole new hotend when I try it.
Jun 15, 2015 9:51 AM - jbigler1986: that is true
Jun 15, 2015 9:52 AM - daniel871: I'll be testing it with a new .8 nozzle on the volcano when I get it put together, so hopefully there won't be any issues with that.
Jun 15, 2015 9:52 AM - daniel871: Also hopefully it won't sit there forever because the bed temp will never drop down to zero.
Jun 15, 2015 9:53 AM - Mike Glass: what are you trying to do exactly
Jun 15, 2015 9:53 AM - daniel871: Make it so the code generated by S3D will work with the printinz plate without me having to manually adjust the code or run down melted blobs of filament while a print is starting up.
Jun 15, 2015 9:54 AM - jbigler1986: you could restract filament at the end of a print then enxtrude a few mm right before it starts like cura does
Jun 15, 2015 9:55 AM - Mike Glass: that sounds like a better Idea
Jun 15, 2015 9:55 AM - daniel871: Why not both?
Jun 15, 2015 9:56 AM - jbigler1986: it would be less gcode editing than your route
Jun 15, 2015 9:56 AM - daniel871: Because the temp code bit was mainly about having it wait to heat up the nozzle until after the autolevel so that the nozzle wouldn't damage the printinz plate when it touched off on it.
Jun 15, 2015 9:56 AM - jbigler1986: just put it in start and end gcode
Jun 15, 2015 9:56 AM - daniel871: I already have the bit in the start code for everything but the retraction you're talking about.
Jun 15, 2015 9:57 AM - Mike Glass: you damage the printplate with a hot nozzle? thats stupid
Jun 15, 2015 9:57 AM - daniel871: Haven't done it yet.
Jun 15, 2015 9:57 AM - daniel871: Was trying to come up with a way to avoid it after being warned about it last week by either you or MK.
Jun 15, 2015 9:58 AM - Mike Glass: I think you just need to avoid dragging the nozzle across the plate
Jun 15, 2015 9:58 AM - jbigler1986: ^
Jun 15, 2015 9:58 AM - Mike Kelly: i think probing it will melt it a little
Jun 15, 2015 9:59 AM - donhuevo: probe cold
Jun 15, 2015 9:59 AM - daniel871: Flow was basically "Problem: Hot end can damage Printinz plate if it heats up before auto-level -> Need to make a process file that will wait until autolevel probe is finished"
Jun 15, 2015 9:59 AM - jbigler1986: to much hassle to worry about for my lazy ass
Jun 15, 2015 9:59 AM - daniel871: I think what I've done will fix it.
Jun 15, 2015 10:00 AM - daniel871: Turned off the "wait for temp to stabilize before printing" option on the Temp tab in S3D
Jun 15, 2015 10:00 AM - donhuevo: I've always probed cold
Jun 15, 2015 10:00 AM - Mike Glass: that or use a real auto compensator
Jun 15, 2015 10:00 AM - daniel871: And did this in the start code:
Jun 15, 2015 10:00 AM - jbigler1986: ur one of a kind don. we all know that
Jun 15, 2015 10:01 AM - Mike Glass: can you use a sensor probe with that plate?
Jun 15, 2015 10:01 AM - daniel871: Might be able to, but I haven't put one on the Robo.
Jun 15, 2015 10:01 AM - daniel871: Right now it is mostly stock, only things I've changed have been the hotend itself, the enclosure and now this plate.
Jun 15, 2015 10:01 AM - Mike Glass: I think they have a metal core of some sort
Jun 15, 2015 10:01 AM - donhuevo: it looks like your start gcode probes before heating things up. am I wrong?
Jun 15, 2015 10:02 AM - daniel871: The version I just modified should, yes.
Jun 15, 2015 10:02 AM - daniel871: Mainly wondering if there is anything else I should go ahead and put in there while I'm doing it.
Jun 15, 2015 10:02 AM - Mike Glass: Have it play the star wars tune
Jun 15, 2015 10:02 AM - donhuevo: just make sure there isn't a hardened booger on the end of the nozzle from the last print
Jun 15, 2015 10:03 AM - daniel871: I take that as a given, Don. My test will be with a brand new nozzle.
Jun 15, 2015 10:03 AM - Mike Glass: virgin nozzle, better season it
Jun 15, 2015 10:03 AM - donhuevo: I forget from time to time
Jun 15, 2015 10:05 AM - daniel871: Made me think of that Venture Brothers gag with Colonel Gentleman teaching Rusty how to shoot a rifle.
Jun 15, 2015 10:06 AM - Mike Glass: why do you do cold Don?
Jun 15, 2015 10:06 AM - donhuevo: so I don't have to follow behind the nozzle during the 9 points and clean up a bunch of gooey boogers on the bed
Jun 15, 2015 10:07 AM - daniel871: That's also another plus I'm looking for.
Jun 15, 2015 10:07 AM - Mike Glass: Thats the fun part
Jun 15, 2015 10:07 AM - Mike Kelly: i wonder how many years in a row they've had "The greatest game launch in xbox history"
Jun 15, 2015 10:08 AM - daniel871: Not with the enclosure in the way.
Jun 15, 2015 10:08 AM - daniel871: Enclosure/bed depending on the timing of trying to open it to get them.
Jun 15, 2015 10:08 AM - Mike Kelly: wow xbox one can now play 360 games
Jun 15, 2015 10:08 AM - daniel871: How many years have Doritos and Mountain Dew been endorsing games?
Jun 15, 2015 10:10 AM - daniel871:
Jun 15, 2015 10:10 AM - daniel871: That's Sony/Metal Gear 5 parody stuff, but still.
Jun 15, 2015 10:12 AM - Mike Kelly: the xbox elite controller looks interesting
Jun 15, 2015 10:14 AM - daniel871: The one that looks like what the N64 controller might have turned into if the Wii wasn't a motion controller?
Jun 15, 2015 10:15 AM - jbigler1986: ur mom looks interesting
Jun 15, 2015 10:16 AM - jbigler1986: wait. that sounds kinda rude. not my intentions
Jun 15, 2015 10:16 AM - daniel871: Hahaha
Jun 15, 2015 10:16 AM - daniel871: http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-t...book&utm_medium=socialm&utm_campaign=cooltech
Jun 15, 2015 10:16 AM - daniel871: Company wants to use a giant metal 3D printer to print bridges in Amsterdam
Jun 15, 2015 10:19 AM - Mike Kelly: wow pc mods on xbox one for fallout 4
Jun 15, 2015 10:19 AM - daniel871: Were there that many mods worth installing though?
Jun 15, 2015 10:19 AM - daniel871: For Fallout3/NV?
Jun 15, 2015 10:20 AM - Mike Kelly: never had a chance to try any
Jun 15, 2015 10:20 AM - daniel871: I think everything I ever installed was an official expansion anyway.
Jun 15, 2015 10:20 AM - daniel871: Wait, there was that thing that would make it where it would run on Windows 7.
Jun 15, 2015 10:21 AM - Mike Kelly: wow EA is awful
Jun 15, 2015 10:21 AM - jbigler1986: MK have you tried to print gears to gear a stepper?
Jun 15, 2015 10:21 AM - jbigler1986: yeah EA is a shit company
Jun 15, 2015 10:21 AM - Mike Kelly: Madden! and a year old game! and EA access!
Jun 15, 2015 10:21 AM - Mike Kelly: uh
Jun 15, 2015 10:21 AM - Mike Kelly: *crickets*
Jun 15, 2015 10:24 AM - daniel871: Trying to think of an EA game I bought that I actually enjoyed playing.
Jun 15, 2015 10:24 AM - jbigler1986: Battlefield
Jun 15, 2015 10:24 AM - jbigler1986: although it was actually Dice
Jun 15, 2015 10:26 AM - jbigler1986: EA and their online pass code stuff was a bunch of crap
Jun 15, 2015 10:32 AM - Mike Kelly: alright those marvin came out even worse
Jun 15, 2015 10:32 AM - Mike Kelly: trying 4 now at 40mm/s
Jun 15, 2015 10:32 AM - Mike Kelly: with different filament
Jun 15, 2015 10:33 AM - daniel871: Well, EA published Mirror's Edge, which was neat at the time.
Jun 15, 2015 10:43 AM - jbigler1986: MK did you understand what i meant about the gearing?
Jun 15, 2015 10:47 AM - daniel871: Something like this? http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:515886/#files
Jun 15, 2015 10:47 AM - daniel871: Well, minus the /#files bit.
Jun 15, 2015 10:48 AM - jbigler1986: yeah
Jun 15, 2015 10:48 AM - Mike Kelly: never tried that no
Jun 15, 2015 10:49 AM - jbigler1986: think it would work
Jun 15, 2015 10:50 AM - daniel871: I'm trying to figure out what you gain from it.
Jun 15, 2015 10:50 AM - daniel871: Smoother transitions?
Jun 15, 2015 10:51 AM - daniel871: Or more like a smoother run across a given number of steps?
Jun 15, 2015 10:51 AM - jbigler1986: it doesn't take a ton of force to stall a stepper is all
Jun 15, 2015 11:29 AM - Bill Monroe: a NEMA 17 running on 12V doesnt take much, although it's ample torgue for a reprap.. but a NEMA 23 running on 48 volts has stupendous torque..
Jun 15, 2015 11:31 AM - jbigler1986: didn't you print gears for one
Jun 15, 2015 11:31 AM - daniel871: Just wire up a bunch of 12v Dewalt drill motors for each axis and the extruder with a proper controller for each.

 

Jun 15, 2015 11:31 AM - Bill Monroe: i've printed many
Jun 15, 2015 11:31 AM - jbigler1986: how did they work out
Jun 15, 2015 11:31 AM - Bill Monroe: just fine so far
Jun 15, 2015 11:32 AM - jbigler1986: hmmm
Jun 15, 2015 11:32 AM - Bill Monroe: not gears exactly though.. belt sprockes
Jun 15, 2015 11:32 AM - Bill Monroe: sprockets
Jun 15, 2015 11:32 AM - jbigler1986: all printed pieces?
Jun 15, 2015 11:32 AM - Bill Monroe: except the screws holding the collet, yes
Jun 15, 2015 11:33 AM - jbigler1986: hmmm
Jun 15, 2015 11:34 AM - jbigler1986: just wondering in case i need to gear mine
Jun 15, 2015 11:34 AM - Bill Monroe:
Jun 15, 2015 11:37 AM - daniel871: What size motor is that?
Jun 15, 2015 11:37 AM - Bill Monroe: 23
Jun 15, 2015 11:38 AM - jbigler1986: I saw a picture of someone that put a hobbed bolt inside the nema 17 stepper as the shaft
Jun 15, 2015 11:39 AM - daniel871: ...inside?
Jun 15, 2015 11:39 AM - Bill Monroe: i wouldnt like that low res
Jun 15, 2015 11:40 AM - Bill Monroe: or low torque
Jun 15, 2015 11:40 AM - daniel871: What drives the Robo's bolt right now?
Jun 15, 2015 11:40 AM - Bill Monroe: the large gear
Jun 15, 2015 11:40 AM - daniel871:
Jun 15, 2015 11:40 AM - donhuevo: what's the ratio between the two gregs wade gears?
Jun 15, 2015 11:41 AM - jbigler1986: Yeah. Attached Nut to it then inserted it inside the coils as the shaft
Jun 15, 2015 11:41 AM - Bill Monroe: dunno actually.. count the teeth on both and report back
Jun 15, 2015 11:41 AM - Stephen Capistron: I'm not patient enough to count the teeth
Jun 15, 2015 11:41 AM - donhuevo: I don't have a gregs wade anymore.
Jun 15, 2015 11:41 AM - Stephen Capistron: If they were from aroostook county it would be easy
Jun 15, 2015 11:42 AM - daniel871: I thought it was 9:47.
Jun 15, 2015 11:42 AM - daniel871: Based on that Thingiverse thing for the herringbone version that says it maintains that ratio.
Jun 15, 2015 11:42 AM - donhuevo: looks right
Jun 15, 2015 11:43 AM - Stephen Capistron: 1:5 wasn't good enough?
Jun 15, 2015 11:43 AM - donhuevo: with a bigger motor it is
Jun 15, 2015 11:44 AM - daniel871: Holy crap.
Jun 15, 2015 11:44 AM - donhuevo: something like this... http://www.omc-stepperonline.com/ge...rque-nema-17-stepper-17hs191684spg5-p-40.html
Jun 15, 2015 11:44 AM - daniel871: Check out this collection of variations on the gears. http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:818003
Jun 15, 2015 11:45 AM - Bill Monroe: you can hob the shaft of a motor, but to work it would have to be a bigger motor
Jun 15, 2015 11:46 AM - Stephen Capistron: I'm just being a wise guy. 9:47 = .1915...... where as 1:5 = .2
Jun 15, 2015 11:47 AM - Stephen Capistron: nice even numbers
Jun 15, 2015 11:47 AM - donhuevo: I thought it was 9.47:1 vs 5.18:1
Jun 15, 2015 11:47 AM - Stephen Capistron: The dual color make is pretty slick on the herringbone gears
Jun 15, 2015 11:47 AM - Stephen Capistron: http://www.thingiverse.com/make:140056
Jun 15, 2015 11:48 AM - daniel871: Yeah I was just about to say it was 5.18:1 not 5:1.
Jun 15, 2015 11:49 AM - donhuevo: I'm a dumbass. sorry. Gregs Wade would be 5.22:1
Jun 15, 2015 11:49 AM - jbigler1986: like dual extrusion
Jun 15, 2015 11:52 AM - daniel871: Somebody is gearing up for a war or something, we just got a request where I work to reverse engineer the internals of some rolls on a machine that generated bulletproof vest fabric the way paper machines usually create paper.
Jun 15, 2015 11:55 AM - daniel871: Didn't mean to kill the chat.
Jun 15, 2015 11:56 AM - donhuevo: don't feel bad about it. I do it all the time
Jun 15, 2015 11:57 AM - daniel871: What's the backstory on the dildo generator jokes?
Jun 15, 2015 11:57 AM - donhuevo: not sure. jb mentioned it more than once and then for me, it just stuck
Jun 15, 2015 12:00 PM - daniel871: Have you seen all the goofy jokes being made about the white woman pretending to be black for over a decade in the NAACP?
Jun 15, 2015 12:01 PM - donhuevo: I saw the article but not any jokes about it
Jun 15, 2015 12:01 PM - daniel871: Here is one
Jun 15, 2015 12:01 PM - daniel871: And another:
Jun 15, 2015 12:03 PM - daniel871: That comparison to Rachel Dolezal was actually the only funny dress post.
Jun 15, 2015 12:05 PM - daniel871:
Jun 15, 2015 12:15 PM - daniel871: Looks like the new Metal Gear is going to be especially rough:
Jun 15, 2015 12:30 PM - Mike Kelly: lol mike
Jun 15, 2015 12:31 PM - Mike Kelly: http://i.imgur.com/AEso1a2.png
Jun 15, 2015 12:33 PM - Mike Glass: Ha I was never here
Jun 15, 2015 12:38 PM - donhuevo: me either
Jun 15, 2015 12:40 PM - Mike Kelly: some peoples children
Jun 15, 2015 12:42 PM - daniel871: Some smartalec just made the office Keurig a whole lot better.
Jun 15, 2015 12:49 PM - daniel871: On actual 3D Printer related stuff. I wonder how hard it would be to adapt this to the Robo: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:20383
Jun 15, 2015 12:49 PM - daniel871: Or something like it.
Jun 15, 2015 12:53 PM - Stephen Capistron: You could just do the punch out thing
Jun 15, 2015 1:15 PM - daniel871: I wouldn't want to give JB a stroke.
Jun 15, 2015 1:17 PM - daniel871: I'm actually thinking that when/if I get around to building the Eustathios I may see about making a bigger version of Emmet's remix of that thing for PLA material (since the larger printer will mainly be doing PLA-like materials like Laywood.
Jun 15, 2015 1:24 PM - toy: woot, my noctua nf-a6x25 arrived
Jun 15, 2015 1:24 PM - toy: and 3mm linear bearings
Jun 15, 2015 1:34 PM - richscorze: Hey ...real quick....when I downloaded Cura last night based on your advice ....it asked me for the machine it was being used on to create the default settings. ROBO was not one of the choices. Is there a choice that is similar or do I just go past all this and manually set everything?
Jun 15, 2015 1:34 PM - richscorze: ....actually MKs advice
Jun 15, 2015 1:36 PM - daniel871: There's a thread in Software that details how to set up Cura.
Jun 15, 2015 1:36 PM - daniel871: http://community.robo3d.com/index.php?threads/how-to-cura-setup.4169/
Jun 15, 2015 1:36 PM - richscorze: Thanks
Jun 15, 2015 1:37 PM - daniel871: I basically had that thread on one monitor while setting it up on my other monitor.
Jun 15, 2015 3:09 PM - toy: hmmm would a bad ramps board prevent comm connection?
Jun 15, 2015 3:15 PM - jbigler1986: Did you miss me?
Jun 15, 2015 3:18 PM - toy: i guess it can
Jun 15, 2015 3:18 PM - toy: i hope it didnt take out my stepper drivers
Jun 15, 2015 3:19 PM - jbigler1986: Man you have had voodoo on your boards
Jun 15, 2015 3:20 PM - toy: yah
Jun 15, 2015 3:20 PM - toy: i got a new arduino mega.... it works by itself, but when hooked up with the ramps... nothing
Jun 15, 2015 3:21 PM - jbigler1986: Did you just replace the mor oeverything
Jun 15, 2015 3:27 PM - jbigler1986: MK you sitting around?
Jun 15, 2015 3:30 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah i'm around
Jun 15, 2015 3:31 PM - jbigler1986: what r u up to
Jun 15, 2015 3:31 PM - Mike Kelly: oh just fixing routes and cleaning the model,
Jun 15, 2015 3:32 PM - jbigler1986: looks like if i raise it 10mm it will clear the belt fine
Jun 15, 2015 3:32 PM - toy: mor?
Jun 15, 2015 3:33 PM - jbigler1986: get the marvin printed good yet?
Jun 15, 2015 3:33 PM - jbigler1986: what toy?
Jun 15, 2015 3:33 PM - toy: Did you just replace the mor oeverything" where u talking to me?
Jun 15, 2015 3:35 PM - jbigler1986: stupid phone
Jun 15, 2015 3:35 PM - jbigler1986: did you replace just the mega or everything
Jun 15, 2015 3:53 PM - toy: just the mega so far
Jun 15, 2015 3:53 PM - toy: about to pull the steppers and test them
Jun 15, 2015 3:55 PM - toy: gonna order another ramps, 1/16 and 1/32 steppers either way
Jun 15, 2015 4:10 PM - jbigler1986: MK printing the modified extruder now
Jun 15, 2015 4:13 PM - Mike Kelly: nice
Jun 15, 2015 4:44 PM - jbigler1986: Should be done in about 3 hours
Jun 15, 2015 4:49 PM - toy: http://imgur.com/G4282rV i need to make a floating hotend with 3mm linear rails/bearings and a fan shroud mount

 

Jun 15, 2015 4:50 PM - toy: and possibly rotate the heatsink 90, so i can access the set screws better
Jun 15, 2015 4:50 PM - jbigler1986: Woops. Forgot to put the spring tension bolt in. Wasn't extruding anything. Lol
Jun 15, 2015 5:29 PM - jbigler1986: Where is everyone
Jun 15, 2015 5:31 PM - Bill Monroe: <-- here
Jun 15, 2015 5:34 PM - jbigler1986: Oh yeah
Jun 15, 2015 5:40 PM - jbigler1986: I want some crabs legs
Jun 15, 2015 6:37 PM - Bill Monroe: i gotta believe it you take crabs' legs away from them they'll tend to get.. well uhhh... crabby
Jun 15, 2015 6:48 PM - jbigler1986: Heyoh
Jun 15, 2015 6:59 PM - jbigler1986: Crickets
Jun 15, 2015 7:37 PM - Bill Monroe: back
Jun 15, 2015 7:44 PM - jbigler1986: Welcome back
Jun 15, 2015 7:47 PM - Bill Monroe: I need some Mil-H-5606, a desk, and a medium sized kitchen table
Jun 15, 2015 7:48 PM - Bill Monroe: I should get 2.0 and her sister to put on one of their outfits and do a scavenger hunt
Jun 15, 2015 7:49 PM - jbigler1986: What are you up to
Jun 15, 2015 7:50 PM - Bill Monroe: the 5606 os for my plane's landing gear, the desk if for my future daughter in law to use for study, the table for my son to do his projects
Jun 15, 2015 7:50 PM - Bill Monroe: craig's list has been disapointing
Jun 15, 2015 7:50 PM - jbigler1986: Oh ok. I thought you wanted it all for one thing.
Jun 15, 2015 7:51 PM - Bill Monroe: oh, maybe I should have made up a McGyver story...
Jun 15, 2015 7:52 PM - jbigler1986: Craigslist use to be good. Haven't bought anything from there in almost a year
Jun 15, 2015 7:52 PM - Bill Monroe: first of the month is best time to find deals
Jun 15, 2015 7:54 PM - jbigler1986: Why is that
Jun 15, 2015 7:55 PM - Bill Monroe: people needing rent money
Jun 15, 2015 7:57 PM - Bill Monroe: i 'spose they could have been scams
Jun 15, 2015 7:58 PM - Bill Monroe: imagine that.
Jun 15, 2015 7:58 PM - Bill Monroe: what a shock

 

Jun 16, 2015 3:17 AM - jbigler1986: Morning
Jun 16, 2015 4:27 AM - Bill Monroe: yo
Jun 16, 2015 4:51 AM - jbigler1986: Direct didn't work. Pretty sure the drive gear i bought sucks. I have more of a mk8 one coming today. That should dobthe trick
Jun 16, 2015 4:51 AM - Bill Monroe: ya, that gear looked dicey
Jun 16, 2015 5:00 AM - jbigler1986: Oh well. At least i have everything else ready. Just toss that on when i get it today
Jun 16, 2015 5:01 AM - jbigler1986: It was the only one i couod get dame day. Oh well
Jun 16, 2015 5:03 AM - jbigler1986: It woukd be good as a tensioner
Jun 16, 2015 5:06 AM - Bill Monroe: I've been experimenting with a feeder that pushed the filament through a bowden tube, but only enough to keep tension off the feed for the extruder
Jun 16, 2015 5:09 AM - jbigler1986: Hmmm. How is that working
Jun 16, 2015 5:10 AM - Bill Monroe: seems to be OK.. I'll know more when it's deployed on my new printer
Jun 16, 2015 5:12 AM - JeffTheMess: Good morning folks, how are my favorite internet friends
Jun 16, 2015 5:12 AM - Bill Monroe: hey Jeff
Jun 16, 2015 5:12 AM - JeffTheMess: How's it going
Jun 16, 2015 5:13 AM - Bill Monroe: pretty OK.. you?
Jun 16, 2015 5:13 AM - JeffTheMess: not to bad, been crazy at work
Jun 16, 2015 5:14 AM - JeffTheMess: something cool i wanted to share http://www.engineering.com/Designer...irt-Shape-3D-Printer--a-Moonshot-Project.aspx
Jun 16, 2015 5:16 AM - Bill Monroe: gack
Jun 16, 2015 5:16 AM - JeffTheMess: you saw the vid
Jun 16, 2015 5:16 AM - Bill Monroe: "heavy grooves" also known as lousy extruding
Jun 16, 2015 5:16 AM - Bill Monroe: "Kick starter"
Jun 16, 2015 5:16 AM - Bill Monroe: red flags galore
Jun 16, 2015 5:19 AM - JeffTheMess: its application seems good though
Jun 16, 2015 5:20 AM - Bill Monroe: it's already a well-serviced field using a variety of techniques...
Jun 16, 2015 5:21 AM - Bill Monroe: looks like just another 3D printing nerd with an idea
Jun 16, 2015 5:22 AM - jbigler1986: Hey hey
Jun 16, 2015 5:23 AM - Bill Monroe: jb
Jun 16, 2015 5:23 AM - JeffTheMess: i resent that lol
Jun 16, 2015 5:24 AM - Bill Monroe: what? being a nerd? be proud
Jun 16, 2015 5:27 AM - daniel871: You're not a real nerd unless you're interested in this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/seanfairburn/gaming-throne-comfortable-collaboration-hardware
Jun 16, 2015 5:27 AM - daniel871: Also holy LOL at the person that thought that up.
Jun 16, 2015 5:27 AM - Bill Monroe: when I see kickstarter, i lose interest
Jun 16, 2015 5:28 AM - JeffTheMess: beat you to it http://www.mwelab.com/
Jun 16, 2015 5:29 AM - daniel871: Doesn't have a toilet seat. 2/10 for effort.
Jun 16, 2015 5:29 AM - Bill Monroe: or a kegerator
Jun 16, 2015 5:30 AM - JeffTheMess: ("I reinvented the spoon, let me make a kickstarter")
Jun 16, 2015 5:30 AM - Bill Monroe: eaxctly
Jun 16, 2015 5:30 AM - daniel871: I smirked at the Game of Thrones name joke.
Jun 16, 2015 5:32 AM - Bill Monroe: I like the subtle adirondack vibe acknowleging the origins.. all that's need is Ned Beatty squeeling..
Jun 16, 2015 5:32 AM - JeffTheMess: People are too lazy to start a business the old fashion way
Jun 16, 2015 5:33 AM - Bill Monroe: I just think they're too inexperienced
Jun 16, 2015 5:33 AM - daniel871: Thanks for that MWE labs link by the way. I now have a good joke suggestion for the next time somebody asks for any ideas to make the office desk more comfortable.
Jun 16, 2015 5:34 AM - Bill Monroe: there's loads of people with money who would love to fund a great idea.
Jun 16, 2015 5:34 AM - JeffTheMess: show them this website http://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/
Jun 16, 2015 5:35 AM - Bill Monroe: but if you're whole world is virtual, you'll never meet money people
Jun 16, 2015 5:36 AM - JeffTheMess: Well people tend to be more "risk takers and brave" online, because they are to afraid of rejection
Jun 16, 2015 5:37 AM - JeffTheMess: (example: online dating)
Jun 16, 2015 5:37 AM - daniel871: Holy shit a water-pressure powered, LED shower head?
Jun 16, 2015 5:37 AM - Bill Monroe: with email!
Jun 16, 2015 5:38 AM - daniel871: How does that even work?
Jun 16, 2015 5:38 AM - JeffTheMess: daniel will be a victim of that website lol
Jun 16, 2015 5:38 AM - Bill Monroe: wait.. it has to work?
Jun 16, 2015 5:40 AM - daniel871: Reviews on Amazon say it breaks down after some months (which varies from review to review).
Jun 16, 2015 5:40 AM - daniel871: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009Z3RLVY/?tag=047-20
Jun 16, 2015 6:03 AM - jbigler1986: May have ordered 5 feet of ptfe tube too Bill. For undisclosed reasons. Lol
Jun 16, 2015 6:06 AM - daniel871: Where can you get that much at once?
Jun 16, 2015 6:07 AM - jbigler1986: Amazon
Jun 16, 2015 6:09 AM - daniel871: This one? http://www.amazon.com/Fluorotherm-F...F8&qid=1434460181&sr=8-2&keywords=PTFE+tubing
Jun 16, 2015 6:09 AM - jbigler1986: Yep
Jun 16, 2015 6:10 AM - jbigler1986: I have like 2 feet of that left now but in sections
Jun 16, 2015 6:10 AM - daniel871: Recent reviews are saying you only actually get 1 foot.
Jun 16, 2015 6:14 AM - jbigler1986: I got 5 feet like 2 months ago
Jun 16, 2015 6:15 AM - jbigler1986: Same exact one.
Jun 16, 2015 6:17 AM - Bill Monroe: there's a hardware store a couple of miles from me that carries it
Jun 16, 2015 6:19 AM - jbigler1986: Lucky. Frys has some but its too small of a diameter
Jun 16, 2015 6:19 AM - Bill Monroe: figures
Jun 16, 2015 6:26 AM - Stephen Capistron: McMaster will deliver you tubing tomorrow so long as it is a business address.
Jun 16, 2015 6:27 AM - Stephen Capistron: Residential is usually 2-3 days
Jun 16, 2015 6:29 AM - daniel871: McMaster charges ridiculous shipping though.
Jun 16, 2015 6:31 AM - Stephen Capistron: depends on where you are I guess. My last order was 5.60 for shipping.
Jun 16, 2015 6:32 AM - Stephen Capistron: I don't like that you find out after the fact, but I will gladly pay that price for the wonderfulness that is their user interface
Jun 16, 2015 6:32 AM - Bill Monroe: <hi5>
Jun 16, 2015 6:32 AM - Stephen Capistron: I'm sure if you order the old fashioned way and call they would quote a shipping price
Jun 16, 2015 6:33 AM - Bill Monroe: McMaster-Carr is a study in excellence
Jun 16, 2015 6:33 AM - Stephen Capistron: I'm kind of surprised amazon has not tried to buy them or their system
Jun 16, 2015 6:33 AM - jbigler1986: Ur a study in excellence
Jun 16, 2015 6:33 AM - Bill Monroe:
Jun 16, 2015 6:35 AM - Stephen Capistron: Ur? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur
Jun 16, 2015 6:35 AM - Bill Monroe: McMaster was leading the field when Amazon still meant river or hot women
Jun 16, 2015 6:36 AM - Stephen Capistron: But Bezos has managed to make some serious money without really having a profit <scratches head>. To the point where he can do silly things like buy a newspaper
Jun 16, 2015 6:37 AM - jbigler1986: This place is not the place for correct grammar. You should know that by now Stephen
Jun 16, 2015 6:38 AM - Bill Monroe: that aint right
Jun 16, 2015 6:39 AM - Bill Monroe: Bezis routinely blunders... Amazon's success is due to the people in his employ
Jun 16, 2015 6:40 AM - Stephen Capistron: It won't be long before Merriam-Webster adds "ur" as an acceptable spelling of "you're"
Jun 16, 2015 6:41 AM - Bill Monroe: it wont be long before Merriam-Webster fails to exist
Jun 16, 2015 6:41 AM - Stephen Capistron: The OED would never dream of doing something like that though
Jun 16, 2015 6:41 AM - Bill Monroe: or is bought by the Gideons
Jun 16, 2015 7:37 AM - Mike Kelly: morning
Jun 16, 2015 7:41 AM - Stephen Capistron: morning
Jun 16, 2015 7:42 AM - daniel871: Wait, this message board has trophies? Why?
Jun 16, 2015 7:43 AM - Mike Kelly: just built into xenforo
Jun 16, 2015 7:43 AM - daniel871: My heatbreaks are supposed to arrive in the mail today. Getting excited about printing again.
Jun 16, 2015 7:47 AM - Stephen Capistron: I got a bunch of goodies yesterday myself
Jun 16, 2015 7:49 AM - Stephen Capistron: e3d
Jun 16, 2015 7:49 AM - Stephen Capistron: thermocouple board
Jun 16, 2015 7:49 AM - Stephen Capistron: bunch of filament
Jun 16, 2015 7:52 AM - Mike Kelly: oooo
Jun 16, 2015 7:52 AM - Stephen Capistron: though I'm starting to second guess using a thermocouple. It will need to be relatively long to get out of the warm enclosure before I can switch to copper
Jun 16, 2015 7:53 AM - Stephen Capistron: I'm concerned about too much flex being experienced by the solid alloys
Jun 16, 2015 7:55 AM - Mike Kelly: finally... someone gets it! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NQI04EA/?tag=047-20
Jun 16, 2015 7:55 AM - Mike Kelly: hmm the replicators just have a really long solid core to the control board

 

Jun 16, 2015 7:57 AM - Stephen Capistron: no issues with the wire fatiguing?
Jun 16, 2015 7:58 AM - Mike Kelly: not that i've noticed but the movement on it is pretty minimal
Jun 16, 2015 7:58 AM - Mike Kelly: no hard deflections or anything
Jun 16, 2015 7:58 AM - Stephen Capistron: The thermcouple I have is 18-24" I beleive which is plenty long enough to get to "cold" space to establish a proper reference
Jun 16, 2015 8:00 AM - Mike Kelly: just get a proper thermocouple junction
Jun 16, 2015 8:01 AM - Mike Kelly: http://www.kegworks.com/brew-cave-walk-in-beer-cooler-kegerator ok this is cool
Jun 16, 2015 8:01 AM - daniel871: Surely there is a thingiverse project for a similar dollar bill launcher.
Jun 16, 2015 8:01 AM - Stephen Capistron: It shouldn't matter whether the transition to copper happens at the board or along the way to it so long as the transition is at an acceptable reference temp
Jun 16, 2015 8:03 AM - daniel871: Hm. Not sure how it's related, but searching for "paper launcher" on Thingiverse had this as the fourth result. http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:32252
Jun 16, 2015 8:05 AM - Mike Kelly: it will affect your accuracy but only slightly
Jun 16, 2015 8:05 AM - Mike Kelly: the new doom game looks just ridiculous enough
Jun 16, 2015 8:05 AM - daniel871: There is a new Doom game?
Jun 16, 2015 8:06 AM - Mike Kelly: just announced yesterday
Jun 16, 2015 8:06 AM - Stephen Capistron: Better have all the fun hidden stuff like the old ones
Jun 16, 2015 8:06 AM - Mike Kelly: it certainly looked more like the classic games than doom 3 did
Jun 16, 2015 8:06 AM - Mike Kelly: doom 3 was crap
Jun 16, 2015 8:06 AM - daniel871: The most recent Doom I played had a hidden room near the cyberdemons.
Jun 16, 2015 8:06 AM - daniel871: Doom3?
Jun 16, 2015 8:07 AM - daniel871: It said "Congrats on cheating to find this room" or something like that in it.
Jun 16, 2015 8:07 AM - daniel871: Because you had to noclip to get to it.
Jun 16, 2015 8:07 AM - daniel871: Spawning sentry turrents from the console to do all your fighting for you took the fun out of the game, though, yeah.
Jun 16, 2015 8:08 AM - Stephen Capistron: I only ever played the first one
Jun 16, 2015 8:08 AM - daniel871: Did you see the Final Fantasy 7 remake trailer?
Jun 16, 2015 8:08 AM - Mike Kelly: i saw there was a trailer didn't watch it though
Jun 16, 2015 8:09 AM - Mike Kelly: i hate how the sony presser is always at night
Jun 16, 2015 8:09 AM - daniel871: I'm interested in playing it, but I'm not interested in the hardcore fans going nuts over it.
Jun 16, 2015 8:10 AM - daniel871: Wonder if they'll capture the "holy shit, this is neat" feeling everyone that had been playing platformers got when they played the original for the first time.
Jun 16, 2015 8:11 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah i don't think i can relive that game again
Jun 16, 2015 8:11 AM - Stephen Capistron: Wolfenstein was also a great game
Jun 16, 2015 8:12 AM - daniel871: I hope they pull a real trolling move on the fans and give it a radically different story.
Jun 16, 2015 8:12 AM - Mike Kelly: supposedly the new wolfenstein game is pretty good
Jun 16, 2015 8:12 AM - daniel871: While throwing them a bone and casting Mr. T as the Barrett character's voice.
Jun 16, 2015 8:13 AM - daniel871: The one that came out last year?
Jun 16, 2015 8:13 AM - Stephen Capistron: like having to kill demon trent reznor at the end?
Jun 16, 2015 8:13 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah
Jun 16, 2015 8:13 AM - daniel871: I have one of the more recent Wolfenstein games for the PS4, never really got into it.
Jun 16, 2015 8:13 AM - daniel871: The combat was too easy.
Jun 16, 2015 8:14 AM - daniel871: Spam Melee to win.
Jun 16, 2015 8:14 AM - Mike Kelly: bummer
Jun 16, 2015 8:14 AM - Mike Kelly: i finished the last of us last night finally
Jun 16, 2015 8:14 AM - Mike Kelly: like over a year later
Jun 16, 2015 8:14 AM - daniel871: I still haven't finished it.
Jun 16, 2015 8:14 AM - Mike Kelly: you should
Jun 16, 2015 8:14 AM - Mike Kelly: you're not that far from being done
Jun 16, 2015 8:15 AM - daniel871: Did it get better after the stealth flooded subway portion?
Jun 16, 2015 8:15 AM - WheresWaldo: Played through both Wolfenstein:New World Order and Old Blood on the XBONE. Waiting patiently for Fallout 4.
Jun 16, 2015 8:15 AM - Mike Kelly: you like fallout? never woulda guessed
Jun 16, 2015 8:15 AM - daniel871: Pretty sure I'm near the beginning, whats-her-name just died and I have to get the girl out of the bloodbath.
Jun 16, 2015 8:15 AM - Mike Kelly: oh
Jun 16, 2015 8:15 AM - Mike Kelly: i thought you were saying you were in a flooded tunnel
Jun 16, 2015 8:15 AM - daniel871: Flooded subway area.
Jun 16, 2015 8:16 AM - Mike Kelly: are you still in the fall?
Jun 16, 2015 8:16 AM - daniel871: Just got out of the main combat bit after that, then it was sneaking mission out of nowhere.
Jun 16, 2015 8:16 AM - WheresWaldo: I actually prefer Mass Effect, played through all of them multiple times, and glad for the Backward Compatibility so I can play Mass Effect 1 all over again.
Jun 16, 2015 8:17 AM - daniel871: Oddly enough, I've been playing the shit out of The Binding of Isaac because it's funny/fucked up.
Jun 16, 2015 8:17 AM - daniel871: My sense of humor is at 12 year old levels. Enemies that use farts and poop to attack is funny.
Jun 16, 2015 8:17 AM - Mike Kelly: i'm hoping that goes on a deep sale during the steam event
Jun 16, 2015 8:18 AM - daniel871: PS+ had it for free a few months back, cross platform.
Jun 16, 2015 8:18 AM - daniel871: (which means PS3, PS4 and Vita, not cross-platform for other companies)
Jun 16, 2015 8:19 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah i want it on steam
Jun 16, 2015 8:19 AM - Mike Kelly: i bought trials fusion yesterday on steam sale
Jun 16, 2015 8:20 AM - daniel871: Ugh, don't get me started on Steam games I bought that I haven't played.
Jun 16, 2015 8:20 AM - Stephen Capistron: any of you guys think you'll go for the steam hardware?
Jun 16, 2015 8:23 AM - daniel871: Nope.
Jun 16, 2015 8:23 AM - daniel871: The Steam hardware will always be a pipe-dream. How long have they been talking about it, five years?
Jun 16, 2015 8:25 AM - daniel871: Also, hilariously over-priced.
Jun 16, 2015 8:25 AM - jbigler1986:
Jun 16, 2015 8:25 AM - jbigler1986: New drive gear
Jun 16, 2015 8:25 AM - daniel871: "We have this entry-level Steam machine that will barely run current games for $500, or you can buy an alternate machine that is $1,200 and will be obsolete in a six months."
Jun 16, 2015 8:25 AM - Stephen Capistron: I can almost make out the crystal structure in the metal with that photo
Jun 16, 2015 8:26 AM - Stephen Capistron: sony and MS must sell their hardware at a loss right?
Jun 16, 2015 8:26 AM - jbigler1986: My phone takes pretty good pics
Jun 16, 2015 8:26 AM - Stephen Capistron: that it does
Jun 16, 2015 8:26 AM - daniel871: Yeah, but they make up for it with license fees for the games that are sold.
Jun 16, 2015 8:27 AM - jbigler1986: I know sony use to sell ps3 at a loss. Not sure with ps4. Im sure it does too
Jun 16, 2015 8:28 AM - daniel871: http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertc...rstand-how-on-earth-sony-has-sold-18-5m-ps4s/
Jun 16, 2015 8:28 AM - daniel871: Was looking for the cost to make vs. selling price, found that.
Jun 16, 2015 8:32 AM - Stephen Capistron: https://www.google.com/webhp?source...613&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=PS4+cost+of+goods
Jun 16, 2015 8:33 AM - daniel871: When did Forbes start caring about video games?
Jun 16, 2015 8:33 AM - Mike Kelly: when it became a multi billion dollar a year industry
Jun 16, 2015 8:33 AM - Stephen Capistron: when MS started caring
Jun 16, 2015 8:37 AM - jbigler1986: MK ever get marvin printed good
Jun 16, 2015 8:41 AM - Mike Kelly: i actually had a pretty good one yesterday
Jun 16, 2015 8:41 AM - Mike Kelly: out of the 4
Jun 16, 2015 8:42 AM - Mike Kelly: it's not perfect but i think i can hide the imperfections
Jun 16, 2015 8:43 AM - jbigler1986: Got a pic
Jun 16, 2015 8:50 AM - daniel871: Am I missing something in the E3D volcano thread in the discussion about adjusting the Z-offset, or is that more of a dialing in thing some people have to do for their printer?
Jun 16, 2015 8:51 AM - daniel871: I never really had an issue with the touch-off/first layer part of running anything (last major problem was a filament issue that should be solved by using a bigger nozzle).
Jun 16, 2015 8:53 AM - Mike Kelly: why would you need to adjust the z offset
Jun 16, 2015 8:53 AM - daniel871: That's what I'm wondering.
Jun 16, 2015 8:53 AM - jbigler1986: Once you adjust it you dont really need to again
Jun 16, 2015 8:54 AM - daniel871: People are talking about what to adjust it to for the difference between the v6 and the volcano, but I never noticed a problem since the G29 touchoff runs of the tip of the nozzle and doesn't really care about the overall length of the hotend.
Jun 16, 2015 8:54 AM - Mike Kelly: man the camera is not a friend to 3d prints
Jun 16, 2015 8:55 AM - Stephen Capistron: They say the camera always adds 10 pounds
Jun 16, 2015 8:55 AM - jbigler1986: Make the lighting horrible
Jun 16, 2015 8:56 AM - jbigler1986: Tell them your camera sucks if they say something
Jun 16, 2015 8:57 AM - daniel871: "sorry about my camera, it makes my hair look frizzier than it really is, too"
Jun 16, 2015 8:57 AM - Mike Kelly: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahiphblw1d8bx3d/Photo Jun 16, 9 55 53 AM.jpg?dl=0
Jun 16, 2015 8:58 AM - daniel871: Marvin has psoriasis.
Jun 16, 2015 8:58 AM - Mike Kelly: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5v9f1dal4lwxq50/Photo Jun 16, 9 46 08 AM.jpg?dl=0

 

Jun 16, 2015 8:58 AM - jbigler1986: looks good except for the edges around the eyes. hmmm
Jun 16, 2015 8:58 AM - Mike Kelly: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kjx70nx8oejlkar/Photo Jun 16, 9 46 04 AM.jpg?dl=0
Jun 16, 2015 9:00 AM - jbigler1986: using the dual with that?
Jun 16, 2015 9:00 AM - daniel871: Can you do that vapor cleanup to it and smooth it out?
Jun 16, 2015 9:00 AM - jbigler1986: seems like a tiny bit of ooze
Jun 16, 2015 9:00 AM - daniel871: Or will that make something collapse?
Jun 16, 2015 9:00 AM - jbigler1986: try it on the r1.6
Jun 16, 2015 9:00 AM - daniel871: I ran mine a little under on the extrusion multiplier.
Jun 16, 2015 9:01 AM - daniel871: .85 instead of the .9 that is default in S3D for PLA.
Jun 16, 2015 9:01 AM - daniel871: Don't know if it really makes a difference though.
Jun 16, 2015 9:02 AM - Mike Kelly: i printed this on the rep2x
Jun 16, 2015 9:02 AM - Mike Kelly: my robostein prints small details really badly
Jun 16, 2015 9:02 AM - Mike Kelly: need to upgrade it to hybrid
Jun 16, 2015 9:02 AM - Mike Kelly: and the 1.6 has some ribbing
Jun 16, 2015 9:02 AM - Mike Kelly: i would do it on the rep2 but that's in pieces right now trying to clean it
Jun 16, 2015 9:04 AM - jbigler1986: Well hell. I haven't printed anthing besides extruder parts in a few days. I refuse to give up on this project
Jun 16, 2015 9:05 AM - Mike Kelly: you say that...
Jun 16, 2015 9:05 AM - jbigler1986: Normally i would have by now
Jun 16, 2015 9:06 AM - jbigler1986: Crossing my fingers that this drive gear fixes it
Jun 16, 2015 9:10 AM - Mike Kelly: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vvk3e1v79bkgkuj/Photo Jun 16, 10 10 19 AM.jpg?dl=0 there i think this one looks ok
Jun 16, 2015 9:11 AM - Stephen Capistron: photoshopped
Jun 16, 2015 9:13 AM - Mike Kelly: i'm printing a couple more using makerware with hips support
Jun 16, 2015 9:14 AM - jbigler1986: support for marvin? you can do it MK
Jun 16, 2015 9:16 AM - Mike Kelly: the stupid butt just won't print properly
Jun 16, 2015 9:22 AM - jbigler1986: I will print it for you.
Jun 16, 2015 9:22 AM - Mike Kelly: lol
Jun 16, 2015 9:22 AM - Mike Kelly: print in grey, send me pictures
Jun 16, 2015 9:23 AM - daniel871: Should've printed canary yellow so that the details would be hard to see.
Jun 16, 2015 9:24 AM - jbigler1986: Well. My printer will hopefully be back up tonight
Jun 16, 2015 9:24 AM - Mike Kelly: or black
Jun 16, 2015 9:25 AM - jbigler1986: The drive gear put a little arc in the filament too. So that probably didnt help. I have black. Trashed my gray bc it printed like shit.
Jun 16, 2015 9:26 AM - Stephen Capistron: I've got a blueish gray on right now that i am struggling with
Jun 16, 2015 9:27 AM - Stephen Capistron: The stuff just does not flow like everything else. It refuses to leave hairs even
Jun 16, 2015 9:27 AM - jbigler1986: yep that's how mine was. flow was very inconsistent
Jun 16, 2015 9:27 AM - Mike Kelly: it's hilarious to me when publishers offer a "season pass" which only includes 2 DLC then they're like "oh yeah here's some more DLC you gotta buy"
Jun 16, 2015 9:29 AM - jbigler1986: lots of it is already on the game. you just have to "unlock" it
Jun 16, 2015 9:29 AM - Mike Kelly: *old man voice* Back in my day they sold games complete, and an expansion actually was as much content as the original game"
Jun 16, 2015 9:30 AM - jbigler1986: makes me wanna play some AoE
Jun 16, 2015 9:31 AM - Stephen Capistron: AoE> Aces over Europe?
Jun 16, 2015 9:32 AM - jbigler1986: Age Of fn Empires
Jun 16, 2015 9:32 AM - Stephen Capistron: I think I'd rather do Aces over Europe or Aces of the Pacific
Jun 16, 2015 9:34 AM - Mike Kelly: age of empires is a classic
Jun 16, 2015 9:36 AM - jbigler1986: looks like i know what i will be downloading tonight
Jun 16, 2015 9:36 AM - Stephen Capistron: Duke Nukem?
Jun 16, 2015 9:37 AM - Stephen Capistron: the original 2d one?
Jun 16, 2015 9:37 AM - jbigler1986: oh snap
Jun 16, 2015 9:37 AM - jbigler1986: twisted metal?
Jun 16, 2015 10:21 AM - Mike Kelly: gah that conference room gets insanely hot
Jun 16, 2015 10:30 AM - Stephen Capistron: hope you remembered deodorant today
Jun 16, 2015 10:34 AM - Mike Kelly: i did
Jun 16, 2015 10:34 AM - Mike Kelly: we're having a dog and pony show tomorrow
Jun 16, 2015 10:34 AM - Mike Glass: Hey good morning/afternoon
Jun 16, 2015 10:34 AM - Mike Kelly: howdy mike
Jun 16, 2015 10:35 AM - Mike Glass: whats going on today
Jun 16, 2015 10:38 AM - Mike Glass: got my EUMakers filament yesterday, stuff is stiff as hell.
Jun 16, 2015 10:38 AM - Mike Kelly: what is it
Jun 16, 2015 10:38 AM - Mike Glass: some italian filament
Jun 16, 2015 10:39 AM - Stephen Capistron: spaghetti?
Jun 16, 2015 10:39 AM - Mike Glass: yea seems like it
Jun 16, 2015 10:40 AM - Mike Kelly: it's like pulling teeth from an awake tiger trying to get any sort of change done on these forums
Jun 16, 2015 10:40 AM - Mike Kelly: i don't know why I even try
Jun 16, 2015 10:40 AM - Mike Kelly: better use of my time trying to convince the science senate committee to cut back on coal use
Jun 16, 2015 10:41 AM - Mike Glass: funny after your done with the spool it turns into a coat hanger you can screw on the wall..lol
Jun 16, 2015 10:43 AM - Mike Glass: $40 a roll delivered free from italy if order 4 spools
Jun 16, 2015 10:44 AM - Mike Kelly: why's it so expensive
Jun 16, 2015 10:44 AM - Stephen Capistron: Better be good stuff at $40
Jun 16, 2015 10:44 AM - Stephen Capistron: stiffness would help or hurt bowden?
Jun 16, 2015 10:45 AM - Mike Glass: they have 13 shades of green
Jun 16, 2015 10:46 AM - Mike Glass: 11 yellow 11 pink 6 orange 11brown, 8blue 7violet
Jun 16, 2015 10:46 AM - Mike Glass: suppose to be the best, but we'll see how it prints
Jun 16, 2015 10:48 AM - Mike Glass: this is an odd printer http://www.eumakers.com/hardware/stampanti/home/deltawasp-40-77.html
Jun 16, 2015 10:49 AM - Mike Glass: oh guess it mills, engraves also
Jun 16, 2015 10:53 AM - Stephen Capistron: one big delta > http://www.eumakers.com/hardware/stampanti/home/deltawasp-40-70.html
Jun 16, 2015 10:54 AM - Mike Kelly: nice delta
Jun 16, 2015 10:54 AM - Mike Glass: 700mm wow
Jun 16, 2015 10:59 AM - jbigler1986: dog and pony show? how has no one else commented on that yet
Jun 16, 2015 10:59 AM - jbigler1986: $40 a spool? i will stick to my $24 a spool
Jun 16, 2015 11:00 AM - Mike Kelly: that's what it is though
Jun 16, 2015 11:01 AM - Mike Kelly: "have everyone be working, but not doing actual work"
Jun 16, 2015 11:01 AM - jbigler1986: i wish that was the case
Jun 16, 2015 11:02 AM - Mike Kelly: what do you think it means
Jun 16, 2015 11:03 AM - jbigler1986: tell them "yeah well I spend half of my day watching SW load"
Jun 16, 2015 11:05 AM - daniel871:
Jun 16, 2015 11:05 AM - daniel871: How did your Eumaker's filament sample print? I haven't had a chance to try mine yet.
Jun 16, 2015 11:05 AM - daniel871: Got some goofy shade of pink.
Jun 16, 2015 11:06 AM - jbigler1986: MK i will go ahead and copy this forum for you. then you can have admin access and actually be able to fix and change things
Jun 16, 2015 11:07 AM - Mike Kelly: haha
Jun 16, 2015 11:09 AM - jbigler1986: give me 3 days.
Jun 16, 2015 11:11 AM - daniel871: Wonder what you'd get if you just did this every other day or so. http://www.eumakers.com/campione-omaggio-16.html
Jun 16, 2015 11:12 AM - Mike Kelly: lol i assume they'd only send 1 per address
Jun 16, 2015 11:12 AM - jbigler1986: probably track by IP or something
Jun 16, 2015 11:14 AM - Stephen Capistron: start shipping to your neihgbors
Jun 16, 2015 11:15 AM - jbigler1986: is it worth it
Jun 16, 2015 11:15 AM - daniel871: I'll tell you later this week. If my heat breaks came in I'll be using it to print some simple stuff tonight.
Jun 16, 2015 11:16 AM - daniel871: Oooh, a 3d Printer accessory that costs as much as another printer. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mosaic3d/the-palette-3d-printing-evolved
Jun 16, 2015 11:16 AM - jbigler1986: did you order extra?
Jun 16, 2015 11:16 AM - daniel871: Nah.
Jun 16, 2015 11:16 AM - daniel871: Just got the one sample. Figured there'd be a tracking system so I didn't try it.
Jun 16, 2015 11:16 AM - jbigler1986: heat break i meant
Jun 16, 2015 11:17 AM - daniel871: Yeah, I got 2.

 

Jun 16, 2015 11:17 AM - daniel871: Will order more some time next week, but I've got so many little things shipping in I want to have everything in and accounted for before I order more stuff.
Jun 16, 2015 11:18 AM - daniel871: Here's the actual website for that other thing. http://www.mosaicmanufacturing.com/
Jun 16, 2015 11:19 AM - daniel871: Ha, there's even a Youtube video with it and other ridiculously expensive things.
Jun 16, 2015 11:19 AM - Mike Glass: Maybe its a dog and pony show to tell everyone they are going to make $70K a year even the CEO..lol
Jun 16, 2015 11:20 AM - daniel871: I actually hope that works out well for them.
Jun 16, 2015 11:20 AM - Mike Kelly: same
Jun 16, 2015 11:22 AM - Mike Kelly: my boss apparently thinks corporation executives are the same as a drunk guy on ebay, get them liquored up and they'll buy shit they don't need
Jun 16, 2015 11:25 AM - daniel871: To be fair, he's probably right 99% of the time.
Jun 16, 2015 11:26 AM - Stephen Capistron: Only problem with that strategy is they will agree verbally, but in the next day or two of going over things they may change their mind
Jun 16, 2015 11:27 AM - Mike Kelly: let's just say you can't buy one of our systems with a paypal account
Jun 16, 2015 11:27 AM - daniel871: I don't know, there's just something about the idea of a CEO looking at a study that says most people can be happy at a given income level for the area his business is in, goes "Well shit, how can I make that happen so the people who work for me are happy to be working for me?" and does it.
Jun 16, 2015 11:27 AM - Mike Kelly: yup exactly, a deal isn't done until the money is in hand
Jun 16, 2015 11:27 AM - Mike Kelly: so getting an exec drunk only helps until they're sober
Jun 16, 2015 11:28 AM - Mike Kelly: then they have to convince their board it's a good idea and work with HR and sales on the purchase
Jun 16, 2015 11:28 AM - daniel871: http://www.redetec.com/ Filabot is getting some competition?
Jun 16, 2015 11:28 AM - Mike Kelly: it's a whole ordeal
Jun 16, 2015 11:29 AM - Mike Kelly: ok now i need to go to starbucks and get a free water cup every day
Jun 16, 2015 11:29 AM - Mike Kelly: then use that pla to make filament
Jun 16, 2015 11:30 AM - daniel871: Emptied bottles of coca cola for T-glase.
Jun 16, 2015 11:30 AM - daniel871: Or something close to it.
Jun 16, 2015 11:30 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah that's a good way to get PET
Jun 16, 2015 11:30 AM - jbigler1986: ONLY $699
Jun 16, 2015 11:30 AM - Mike Kelly: but you can make "FREE" filament!
Jun 16, 2015 11:30 AM - Stephen Capistron: I saw this last night at a startup event > http://www.redtreerobotics.com/
Jun 16, 2015 11:31 AM - Mike Kelly: wow that's cool stephen
Jun 16, 2015 11:31 AM - Stephen Capistron: That would take a lot of coke to print anything
Jun 16, 2015 11:31 AM - Mike Kelly: well my parents drink a shit load
Jun 16, 2015 11:31 AM - Mike Kelly: i should have them save their bottles
Jun 16, 2015 11:31 AM - daniel871: You underestimate how much coke people in The South drink. I can just ask relatives to let me have it for recycling.
Jun 16, 2015 11:32 AM - Mike Kelly: "PhD candidate"
Jun 16, 2015 11:32 AM - Stephen Capistron: No nickel deposit?
Jun 16, 2015 11:32 AM - daniel871: They don't do that here.
Jun 16, 2015 11:32 AM - daniel871: Or nobody bothers.
Jun 16, 2015 11:32 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah right, the south instituting a tax?
Jun 16, 2015 11:33 AM - Stephen Capistron: but it's a deposit. you get your money back
Jun 16, 2015 11:33 AM - daniel871: Redtree Robotics: Hail Hydra!
Jun 16, 2015 11:33 AM - Mike Kelly: it would cost jobs and hurt small business owners!
Jun 16, 2015 11:33 AM - Stephen Capistron: except for the 30MM massachusetts doesn't give back because people (myself included) are too lazy to bother with the returns and just through it all in with curbside recycling
Jun 16, 2015 11:34 AM - Mike Kelly: good for the homeless
Jun 16, 2015 11:34 AM - Mike Kelly: apparently michigan loses a lot of money because people in ohio etc bring their recyclables into the state for deposits
Jun 16, 2015 11:35 AM - Stephen Capistron: That Redtree thing is great, because who wants to bother with writing drivers and firmware for their robot
Jun 16, 2015 11:35 AM - Stephen Capistron: Seinfeld did it
Jun 16, 2015 11:36 AM - daniel871: So is that filament extruder worth the money compared to the other ones out there?
Jun 16, 2015 11:36 AM - daniel871: Also, remember how that worked out for Seinfeld.
Jun 16, 2015 11:36 AM - Stephen Capistron: I don't think any of them are worth the money
Jun 16, 2015 11:36 AM - jbigler1986: ^
Jun 16, 2015 11:37 AM - jbigler1986: unless it's turnning pellets into spools
Jun 16, 2015 11:37 AM - daniel871: Is there a project somewhere that does it just as well for less money?
Jun 16, 2015 11:37 AM - daniel871: instructable or something?
Jun 16, 2015 11:38 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah you'd need to be using just a ton of filament to make it cost/time effective
Jun 16, 2015 11:39 AM - Mike Kelly: i don't know anyone who bought a filastruder that thought it was a good investment
Jun 16, 2015 11:39 AM - Stephen Capistron: people have used auger drill bits as the pump screw. It could be done. Probably not worth the effort
Jun 16, 2015 11:39 AM - daniel871: What about grinding up all of your failed prints and printing something else with it?
Jun 16, 2015 11:40 AM - daniel871: Or prototypes that didn't work for whatever reason?
Jun 16, 2015 11:40 AM - Mike Kelly: well material degradation is a very real thing, your recycled filament won't be at anywhere near the same quality as the original
Jun 16, 2015 11:40 AM - Stephen Capistron: you should still be mixing in fresh material
Jun 16, 2015 11:40 AM - Mike Kelly: then you get to worry about material contamination with dust and particulates
Jun 16, 2015 11:40 AM - Mike Kelly: it's just not worth it
Jun 16, 2015 11:40 AM - Mike Kelly: maybe if you're printing with like a 1.2mm volcano nozzle and chopping up huge failures
Jun 16, 2015 11:40 AM - daniel871: That's kind of the direction I'm talking about yes.
Jun 16, 2015 11:41 AM - Stephen Capistron: can just rebrand the dustfill as "Moonfill™"
Jun 16, 2015 11:41 AM - Mike Kelly: lol
Jun 16, 2015 11:41 AM - daniel871: Or call it DustFill (99.6% of filler is dead human skin!) and market it to the hipsters.
Jun 16, 2015 11:41 AM - Mike Kelly: i mean i think a recycler would make sense if you're spooling like 5kg at a time
Jun 16, 2015 11:42 AM - Mike Kelly: otherwise it's just not cost or time effective
Jun 16, 2015 11:42 AM - Stephen Capistron: If you owned a printbot mega go nuts
Jun 16, 2015 11:42 AM - Mike Kelly: and printing with a printrbot mega
Jun 16, 2015 11:42 AM - Mike Kelly: dammit stephen
Jun 16, 2015 11:43 AM - jbigler1986: MK doesn't need one bc he bought the filament factory line from robodig or whatever it's called
Jun 16, 2015 11:47 AM - Stephen Capistron: its frustrating when you try and help someone. Hey your z steps are wrong
Jun 16, 2015 11:47 AM - Stephen Capistron: A dozen posts later, I changed my Z-steps and now its awesome
Jun 16, 2015 11:48 AM - Mike Kelly: Yeah I can't stand being ignored
Jun 16, 2015 11:48 AM - Mike Kelly: Personal weakness
Jun 16, 2015 11:48 AM - daniel871: A whole factory line?
Jun 16, 2015 11:49 AM - jbigler1986: http://www.robotdigg.com/product/111/3D-Printing-Filament-Production-Line
Jun 16, 2015 11:53 AM - jbigler1986: wonder how much shipping would be. lol
Jun 16, 2015 11:59 AM - daniel871: I'm going to get banned from that FB group that posted the knockoff MWElabs chair kickstarter earlier today.
Jun 16, 2015 11:59 AM - Mike Kelly: freight probably like 500-1000
Jun 16, 2015 11:59 AM - daniel871:
Jun 16, 2015 11:59 AM - daniel871: "Our product is completely different from theirs and better in every way!"
Jun 16, 2015 11:59 AM - Mike Kelly: if my company ever get in the green, i'm so getting one of those
Jun 16, 2015 11:59 AM - daniel871: You used a lawn chair as the base structure for your product. How is it better?
Jun 16, 2015 12:00 PM - daniel871: I mean, look at the product here. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/seanfairburn/gaming-throne-comfortable-collaboration-hardware
Jun 16, 2015 12:00 PM - Mike Kelly: that's the most homercar thing i've ever seen
Jun 16, 2015 12:02 PM - Stephen Capistron: would you start talking in a robotic voice too?
Jun 16, 2015 12:02 PM - daniel871: Let's take this:
Jun 16, 2015 12:02 PM - daniel871: And put some computer shit on it.
Jun 16, 2015 12:02 PM - jbigler1986: wtf is wrong with people
Jun 16, 2015 12:02 PM - daniel871: Also add some cushions and a footrest so I don't get uncomfortable too quickly.
Jun 16, 2015 12:03 PM - Mike Kelly: jb: so, so many things
Jun 16, 2015 12:04 PM - jbigler1986: MK go ahead and design something awesome and get it on kickstarter. Make your money and then never deliver
Jun 16, 2015 12:05 PM - jbigler1986: I mean really? How hard is to to design something. If they don't reach the goal does the money get refunded
Jun 16, 2015 12:05 PM - daniel871: The fact that they've raised only $365 of their $160,000 goal is icing on the schadenfreude cake here.
Jun 16, 2015 12:06 PM - jbigler1986: should have never even gotten $1
Jun 16, 2015 12:06 PM - Mike Kelly: I'll make a unibody printer and sell it for $178
Jun 16, 2015 12:06 PM - daniel871: Can a graphics wiz mingle the image here with the homercar reveal?
Jun 16, 2015 12:06 PM - Mike Kelly: then be all over the news about a low cost printer
Jun 16, 2015 12:07 PM - jbigler1986: hell yes. do it
Jun 16, 2015 12:07 PM - daniel871: I wish I knew how to do GIFs well enough to do it myself.
Jun 16, 2015 12:07 PM - jbigler1986: i will back you for $2

 

Jun 16, 2015 12:07 PM - Mike Kelly: you can be listed on the "Supporters" page
Jun 16, 2015 12:07 PM - Mike Glass: sounds like a Tiko rip off...heh
Jun 16, 2015 12:07 PM - Mike Kelly: just use adobe illustrator
Jun 16, 2015 12:11 PM - Mike Kelly: i'll just claim to be from china and have tons of sweet connections to make a low COGS
Jun 16, 2015 12:14 PM - Stephen Capistron: you could go after the made in USA using organic non-GMO fair trade materials
Jun 16, 2015 12:14 PM - Stephen Capistron: and pay all your employees 70k minimum
Jun 16, 2015 12:14 PM - daniel871: That works if there's only one employee in a startup business.
Jun 16, 2015 12:15 PM - Mike Kelly: na you don't worry about employee costs
Jun 16, 2015 12:15 PM - daniel871: Also any business capable of surviving where the CEO is getting Scrooge McDuck salary while putting everyone else on welfare (Wal-Mart)
Jun 16, 2015 12:18 PM - daniel871: Anybody that makes more money per hour than their employees make per year is not scaling the pay properly.
Jun 16, 2015 12:20 PM - Mike Kelly: wal-mart is basically the devil
Jun 16, 2015 12:21 PM - Stephen Capistron: the joke of walmart raising wages is that what do you think the employees are going to do with that extra income?
Jun 16, 2015 12:21 PM - daniel871: The Devil, but like the Devil it is the most well known.
Jun 16, 2015 12:21 PM - daniel871: http://fortune.com/2015/02/19/wal-mart-wage-hike-2-million-hours/
Jun 16, 2015 12:22 PM - daniel871: There are other, equally evil companies out there that do just as bad or worse to their employees while taking similar pay scales at the executive level.
Jun 16, 2015 12:23 PM - Mike Kelly: stephen: Get off government assistance so tax payers stop paying for wal-mart to underpay their employees?
Jun 16, 2015 12:23 PM - Stephen Capistron: CEO of walmart is McMillon? He just needs to change his name and add that extra "i" in there
Jun 16, 2015 12:23 PM - daniel871: The McDonald's CEO makes a modest $9,200 an hour compared to the $16,800 an hour the CEO of Walmart rakes in.
Jun 16, 2015 12:23 PM - Stephen Capistron: that, but also spend it at walmart
Jun 16, 2015 12:23 PM - daniel871: Still too high.
Jun 16, 2015 12:25 PM - Stephen Capistron: so walmart's bottom line won't really change all that much by giving everyone a raise
Jun 16, 2015 12:26 PM - daniel871: The whole argument against giving people wages they can live off of if they work full time for a large corporation are hilarious when someone brings up how much the CEO makes for the same corporation.
Jun 16, 2015 12:26 PM - daniel871: I can see against doing it in a business that genuinely struggles, but screw the CEOs of huge companies that really are just being greedy.
Jun 16, 2015 12:27 PM - Mike Kelly: danger to free market? explain your concerns
Jun 16, 2015 12:27 PM - daniel871: They should be given the option of paying their employees a living wage or get taxed to fund the government programs their employees will need to survive.
Jun 16, 2015 12:28 PM - Mike Kelly: ^
Jun 16, 2015 12:30 PM - Mike Kelly: i feel like they need to offer some sort of community housing or program to show how it's even possible to live on their salary
Jun 16, 2015 12:30 PM - Mike Kelly: then again they're all part time employees to avoid any sort of thing like that
Jun 16, 2015 12:30 PM - Mike Kelly: hence why they need to work 2-3 jobs
Jun 16, 2015 12:30 PM - daniel871: Or shifts at the same job.
Jun 16, 2015 12:31 PM - Mike Kelly: http://digitalsynopsis.com/inspiration/privileged-kids-on-a-plate-pencilsword-toby-morris/
Jun 16, 2015 12:33 PM - Mike Kelly: pretty depressingly true
Jun 16, 2015 12:34 PM - Stephen Capistron: In other news did anyone else hear about the Cardinals (baseball) being investigated by the feds?
Jun 16, 2015 12:40 PM - daniel871: Don't care about baseball so nope.
Jun 16, 2015 12:41 PM - Mike Kelly: same
Jun 16, 2015 12:41 PM - daniel871: Thanks for that comic link, sharing it on my FB page with all my other pinko-commie-liberal stuff.
Jun 16, 2015 12:42 PM - Stephen Capistron: Daniel, you must fit in great in GA?
Jun 16, 2015 12:51 PM - Mike Kelly: same with you in MA
Jun 16, 2015 12:52 PM - Stephen Capistron: i do fine up here. Scott Brown didn't last too long
Jun 16, 2015 12:53 PM - daniel871: I'm alright because I'm white.
Jun 16, 2015 12:53 PM - daniel871: Er.
Jun 16, 2015 12:54 PM - Mike Kelly: Lil Dicky - White Dude < Watch at home
Jun 16, 2015 12:56 PM - Mike Kelly: could be a bit offensive but it's mostly just a commentary
Jun 16, 2015 12:56 PM - Mike Kelly: i guess it's also a tiny bit nsfw
Jun 16, 2015 12:56 PM - Mike Kelly: sooo
Jun 16, 2015 12:57 PM - daniel871: Opened in new tab before edited out.
Jun 16, 2015 12:57 PM - daniel871: Yeah, no, nevermind.
Jun 16, 2015 12:57 PM - daniel871: I'm liberal and open-minded, but white people shouldn't rap.
Jun 16, 2015 12:59 PM - Mike Kelly: his tangent at the end is kinda funny
Jun 16, 2015 12:59 PM - jbigler1986: what did i some in to
Jun 16, 2015 1:01 PM - daniel871: Jokes about the privileges people enjoy without knowing it if they're born with a certain skin color or into a certain income bracket.
Jun 16, 2015 1:01 PM - Mike Kelly: social commentary!
Jun 16, 2015 1:02 PM - Mike Glass: that dude cannot sing
Jun 16, 2015 1:02 PM - Mike Kelly: lol nope
Jun 16, 2015 1:02 PM - daniel871: Neither can 99% of pop stars, doesn't stop them from raking in money.
Jun 16, 2015 1:03 PM - Mike Kelly: supported marvin didn't come out any better
Jun 16, 2015 1:04 PM - Mike Glass: Do it on the Robo, it should print like gold. just keep your temp down
Jun 16, 2015 1:04 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah the one i posted this morning i put on 3dhubs
Jun 16, 2015 1:04 PM - Mike Kelly: we'll see if i need to do it again
Jun 16, 2015 1:05 PM - daniel871: I'm trying to wrap my head around a Rep2x having trouble doing something the Robo does easily.
Jun 16, 2015 1:05 PM - Mike Kelly: ABS vs PLA
Jun 16, 2015 1:07 PM - Mike Kelly: ABS is not ideal for fine details
Jun 16, 2015 1:09 PM - Mike Glass: Ive done statues with both and they look the same
Jun 16, 2015 1:11 PM - daniel871: Hahaha. This is happening in a contest.
Jun 16, 2015 1:11 PM - daniel871: http://www.omaze.com/experiences/arnold-schwarzenegger-2
Jun 16, 2015 1:11 PM - daniel871: "Donate money to win a trip to blow shit up with Arnold"
Jun 16, 2015 1:12 PM - daniel871: That probably would actually be fun. Dude knows how to party if his autobiography is to be believed.
Jun 16, 2015 1:13 PM - daniel871: That youtube video. LOL
Jun 16, 2015 1:13 PM - daniel871:
Jun 16, 2015 2:28 PM - daniel871: Found an octoprint app for android on the google play store.
Jun 16, 2015 2:28 PM - daniel871: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mariogrip.octoprint
Jun 16, 2015 2:34 PM - daniel871: I'm surprised that octoprint app isnt more popular.
Jun 16, 2015 2:54 PM - Mike Kelly: and meetings over
Jun 16, 2015 3:12 PM - Mike Glass: Are you looking for a new job
Jun 16, 2015 3:13 PM - Mike Kelly: not yet no
Jun 16, 2015 3:13 PM - Mike Kelly: we'll see how tomorrow goes
Jun 16, 2015 3:13 PM - Mike Kelly: having a lot of big wigs coming by
Jun 16, 2015 3:13 PM - Mike Kelly: like 40 people
Jun 16, 2015 3:13 PM - Mike Kelly: though on another note our international sales person quit unexpectedly on friday
Jun 16, 2015 3:14 PM - Mike Kelly: so that's just... super
Jun 16, 2015 3:14 PM - Mike Glass: They probably got tired of nobody biting
Jun 16, 2015 3:15 PM - Mike Kelly: my boss is... abrasive... we'll say
Jun 16, 2015 3:15 PM - Mike Kelly: she probably got tired of not being trusted and constantly being undermined and micromanaged
Jun 16, 2015 3:16 PM - Mike Glass: Is the company just not selling, or is it that it just isnt marketable yet.
Jun 16, 2015 3:16 PM - Mike Kelly: it's just not selling really
Jun 16, 2015 3:16 PM - Mike Kelly: there's supposedly a market for it
Jun 16, 2015 3:17 PM - Mike Kelly: since these well sites are supposed to be doing flare capture by the EPA mandate
Jun 16, 2015 3:17 PM - Mike Glass: Do they have sales in the Dakota's now?
Jun 16, 2015 3:17 PM - Mike Kelly: but it's kinda just for show
Jun 16, 2015 3:17 PM - Mike Kelly: we have 2 units running in the bakken right now
Jun 16, 2015 3:17 PM - Mike Glass: not sales but sale's people
Jun 16, 2015 3:17 PM - Mike Kelly: oh no
Jun 16, 2015 3:18 PM - Mike Kelly: but the company we're working with had originally said they'd take 5 units and then this past month "we've satisfied our flare capture requirements"
Jun 16, 2015 3:18 PM - Mike Kelly: so they backed out on the other 3
Jun 16, 2015 3:18 PM - Mike Glass: any salespeople anywhere?
Jun 16, 2015 3:18 PM - Mike Kelly: well we have one maybe 2 people
Jun 16, 2015 3:18 PM - Mike Kelly: one's like our "VP" who i guess does sales
Jun 16, 2015 3:19 PM - Mike Glass: But do they travel?
Jun 16, 2015 3:19 PM - Mike Kelly: and the other is a former engineer/scientist turned sales
Jun 16, 2015 3:19 PM - Mike Kelly: not as far as i know

 

Jun 16, 2015 3:19 PM - Mike Kelly: they work at our other facility so i'm not kept abreast of their goings on
Jun 16, 2015 3:20 PM - Mike Glass: We had a system put in a few years ago that did the same thing I believe, at our wastewater facility, it was running two huge generators, but they had alot of issues with it and quit messing with it in a few years.
Jun 16, 2015 3:21 PM - Mike Kelly: the person who just quit did some traveling
Jun 16, 2015 3:21 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah our systems are not exactly reliable right now
Jun 16, 2015 3:21 PM - Mike Kelly: our generator is like burning 4 qts of oil a day
Jun 16, 2015 3:22 PM - JimBlue: should I start a new thread about my printer problems ?
Jun 16, 2015 3:23 PM - Mike Kelly: granted those things were pieces of crap, the new ones we have are much nicer
Jun 16, 2015 3:23 PM - Mike Kelly: depends on the problem jim, what's eatin ya
Jun 16, 2015 3:23 PM - JimBlue: The left threaded rod is wobbling as much as half an inch.
Jun 16, 2015 3:23 PM - Mike Glass: Stirling was the company that was doing ours.
Jun 16, 2015 3:23 PM - Mike Kelly: that's not too unusual jim
Jun 16, 2015 3:24 PM - Mike Kelly: is it causing print issues?
Jun 16, 2015 3:24 PM - JimBlue: the right one barely moves. Details in the leveling thread.
Jun 16, 2015 3:24 PM - JimBlue: Something is.
Jun 16, 2015 3:24 PM - Mike Kelly: my robo does the same thing
Jun 16, 2015 3:24 PM - Mike Kelly: what kind of issues?
Jun 16, 2015 3:25 PM - JimBlue: I zeroed the extruder, started a print, and the extruder moved up about 5 or more mm.
Jun 16, 2015 3:25 PM - Mike Kelly: that's part of the startup gcode
Jun 16, 2015 3:25 PM - JimBlue: stayed up there to.
Jun 16, 2015 3:26 PM - Mike Kelly: are you using matter control?
Jun 16, 2015 3:26 PM - Mike Glass: is the nut not seated on the Z axis
Jun 16, 2015 3:26 PM - JimBlue: cura 15
Jun 16, 2015 3:26 PM - Mike Kelly: whats your startup g-code look like
Jun 16, 2015 3:27 PM - JimBlue: I'll check the nut on the bottom. The gcode is that posted by Ben oin the leveling thread. I commented out the rest of it.
Jun 16, 2015 3:28 PM - Mike Kelly: what does M119 return for your z endstop status
Jun 16, 2015 3:28 PM - JimBlue: The printer is in my hobby shed. My laptop is in the house.
Jun 16, 2015 3:28 PM - Mike Kelly: i hear laptops are portable
Jun 16, 2015 3:29 PM - JimBlue: I take the laptop out there, but I'll lose wireless connection.
Jun 16, 2015 3:29 PM - Mike Kelly: we'll wait
Jun 16, 2015 3:31 PM - JimBlue: Here go... later.
Jun 16, 2015 3:44 PM - JimBlue: Lets see if I'm back. More than one line of text...
Jun 16, 2015 3:47 PM - JimBlue: Export text pasted into troubleshooting -> my robo 3d doesn't auto-level.
Jun 16, 2015 3:51 PM - JimBlue: Did you leave for the day ?
Jun 16, 2015 3:57 PM - Mike Kelly: just got back
Jun 16, 2015 3:58 PM - Mike Kelly: i don't see where you sent M119
Jun 16, 2015 3:59 PM - jbigler1986: Back
Jun 16, 2015 4:02 PM - jbigler1986: Post a pic of you z switches
Jun 16, 2015 4:03 PM - Mike Kelly: also do a paper leveling
Jun 16, 2015 4:04 PM - Mike Kelly: man those baby birds sure are loud
Jun 16, 2015 4:04 PM - jbigler1986: Ive been doing away with the paper level lately.
Jun 16, 2015 4:04 PM - jbigler1986: Been using the dial calipers. It's faster
Jun 16, 2015 4:04 PM - Mike Kelly: i only ever do it visually
Jun 16, 2015 4:04 PM - Mike Kelly: but most people have paper and it's a good frame of reference
Jun 16, 2015 4:06 PM - jbigler1986: Yes it is. Always works for me. Dial caliper is just quicker and easier to get it exactly the same. I like things to be faster as you know
Jun 16, 2015 4:07 PM - Mike Kelly: dial gauge you mean?
Jun 16, 2015 4:07 PM - Mike Kelly: but yeah i do like using a dial gauge, nice to have that readout
Jun 16, 2015 4:07 PM - jbigler1986: Haha. Yeah. Woops
Jun 16, 2015 4:07 PM - Mike Kelly: just not gonna tell people to go buy it when a paper works 90% as well
Jun 16, 2015 4:07 PM - jbigler1986: Brain fart
Jun 16, 2015 4:08 PM - Mike Kelly: it's ok i wasn't sure if i was right or not, had to google
Jun 16, 2015 4:08 PM - Mike Kelly: for the longest time i'd mix up caliper and micrometer
Jun 16, 2015 4:09 PM - jbigler1986: I like micrometers
Jun 16, 2015 4:11 PM - Mike Kelly: http://i.imgur.com/6ocuQsZ.jpg when the acid kicks in
Jun 16, 2015 4:11 PM - Mike Kelly: "Image generated by a Convolutional Network"
Jun 16, 2015 4:12 PM - JimBlue: I typed M119, and the M105 showed up. No idea why.
Jun 16, 2015 4:13 PM - Mike Kelly: i only see an M115
Jun 16, 2015 4:13 PM - Mike Kelly: you should see an output that shows the endstop status when you send M119
Jun 16, 2015 4:14 PM - jbigler1986: Can you post a pic of ur switches?
Jun 16, 2015 4:14 PM - JimBlue: I took a photo of the z switches. I'll add them to my post.
Jun 16, 2015 4:14 PM - jbigler1986: Link to ur post please
Jun 16, 2015 4:14 PM - Mike Kelly: http://community.robo3d.com/index.p...to-level-correctly-faq.4664/page-6#post-49591
Jun 16, 2015 4:16 PM - jbigler1986: Thanks. Im lazy right now. Haven't even put on the new gear yet
Jun 16, 2015 4:21 PM - JimBlue: posted
Jun 16, 2015 4:30 PM - jbigler1986: Your right one is not seated correctly
Jun 16, 2015 4:31 PM - jbigler1986: Also your left one needs turned 180 degrees
Jun 16, 2015 4:32 PM - jbigler1986: Turn your right one 180 degrees as well
Jun 16, 2015 4:33 PM - JimBlue: so, they should be pointed outward ?
Jun 16, 2015 4:34 PM - JimBlue: to the sides of the case ?
Jun 16, 2015 4:35 PM - JimBlue: They were pointed towards the front of the case. Opposite of the power switch.
Jun 16, 2015 4:36 PM - daniel871: A Min Temp Error on the extruder readout means the stud thermistor connection is messed up, right?
Jun 16, 2015 4:42 PM - JimBlue: Should it point towards me, or towards the back of the printer. By that I mean, the power connections.
Jun 16, 2015 4:43 PM - JimBlue: I thought I saw a reply, but it vanished.
Jun 16, 2015 4:48 PM - jbigler1986: Hold on
Jun 16, 2015 4:48 PM - JimBlue: k
Jun 16, 2015 4:49 PM - daniel871:
Jun 16, 2015 4:49 PM - jbigler1986:
Jun 16, 2015 4:50 PM - jbigler1986: When looking at the fron of the printer that's how they should be pointed
Jun 16, 2015 4:51 PM - JimBlue: towards the extruder ? Mine doesn't have that big blue thing... is that a mod ?
Jun 16, 2015 4:51 PM - jbigler1986: Yeah its modified
Jun 16, 2015 4:52 PM - jbigler1986: See how the carriage is sitting on top of the switch
Jun 16, 2015 4:53 PM - JimBlue: k. I'll fix it later tonight or in the morning. Yes, I checked the intro pdf. Says there is a cavity on the rod.
Jun 16, 2015 4:54 PM - jbigler1986: Yeah daniel that's a thermistor issue
Jun 16, 2015 4:56 PM - JimBlue: Have to fight over the shower. So I'll catch you on Wednesday.
Jun 16, 2015 4:56 PM - JimBlue: Relatives...
Jun 16, 2015 5:21 PM - jbigler1986: MK you around
Jun 16, 2015 5:22 PM - jbigler1986:
Jun 16, 2015 5:23 PM - jbigler1986: Works. Extruding it to test and it didnt slip once. Need to modify the idler a little bc i had to sand it a bunch. Wasnt allowing me to apply enough pressure against the filament
Jun 16, 2015 5:24 PM - Sims Reaper: Oh wow. You replaced the whole carriage assembly?
Jun 16, 2015 5:24 PM - jbigler1986: Yeah. Thats the extruder but i have also replaced the carriage
Jun 16, 2015 5:25 PM - jbigler1986: Let me get another pic
Jun 16, 2015 5:25 PM - Sims Reaper: What were the reasons? Just to do it? Or for a practical reason?
Jun 16, 2015 5:27 PM - jbigler1986: New extruder is just for looks really. Carriage was to move the x axis switch and reangle the parts fans. Also bc i wanted everything in blue.
Jun 16, 2015 5:27 PM - Printed Solid: bc I wanted everyhing in blue. LOL.
Jun 16, 2015 5:28 PM - jbigler1986:
Jun 16, 2015 5:28 PM - Printed Solid: hello all.
Jun 16, 2015 5:28 PM - Printed Solid: JB beautiful stuff as always.
Jun 16, 2015 5:28 PM - Sims Reaper: Hello
Jun 16, 2015 5:28 PM - Sims Reaper: I do like that you have a clean look at the extrusion
Jun 16, 2015 5:28 PM - jbigler1986: Well the extruder im going to reprint in blue. This yellow was to test it without wasting other filament
Jun 16, 2015 5:29 PM - Printed Solid: you don't like the blue and yellow? I guess I'm getting used to living in Delaware... it looks so normal to me.

 

Jun 16, 2015 5:29 PM - jbigler1986: Printed i had to resend the parts. Got returned to my work for some reason.
Jun 16, 2015 5:30 PM - Printed Solid: weird. DM me the address you used.
Jun 16, 2015 5:30 PM - Printed Solid:
Jun 16, 2015 5:30 PM - Printed Solid: mail people can be total jackasses. who knows why they returned it.
Jun 16, 2015 5:31 PM - jbigler1986: Oh and i owe for the bowden adapter. I decided i wanted it. So do you want me to place the order through the site
Jun 16, 2015 5:31 PM - Printed Solid: sure. that works.
Jun 16, 2015 5:33 PM - jbigler1986: Yeah my warehouse manager brought it to me yesterday. He said oh yeah i got this thursday. I was like you dick
Jun 16, 2015 5:34 PM - Printed Solid: haha. nobody sits on my stuff.
Jun 16, 2015 5:34 PM - jbigler1986: How has business been
Jun 16, 2015 5:35 PM - Printed Solid: little bit of a summer slump, but still good. I've been using the time to do shows and get stuff in order. New website launching in a few weeks.
Jun 16, 2015 5:35 PM - Printed Solid: will be a really nice improvement. mobile friendly and much faster.
Jun 16, 2015 5:35 PM - jbigler1986: Awesome. People like eye candy
Jun 16, 2015 5:36 PM - Printed Solid: I think it's a summer slump for the whole industry because the # of sales calls I've gotten from vendors has gone through the roof.
Jun 16, 2015 5:36 PM - jbigler1986: Well there are so damn many on the market now
Jun 16, 2015 5:37 PM - daniel871: I'm getting pissed now.
Jun 16, 2015 5:37 PM - jbigler1986: Do you still have the refurb robo
Jun 16, 2015 5:37 PM - jbigler1986: Braydon hasn't reponded in weeks
Jun 16, 2015 5:37 PM - Printed Solid: me?
Jun 16, 2015 5:37 PM - jbigler1986: Yeah
Jun 16, 2015 5:37 PM - daniel871: Finally get my hotend fixed and the y axis belt attachement snaps out.
Jun 16, 2015 5:38 PM - daniel871: How the fuck does that even happen?
Jun 16, 2015 5:38 PM - jbigler1986: Super glue that bad boy
Jun 16, 2015 5:38 PM - Printed Solid: I just shipped it.
Jun 16, 2015 5:38 PM - Printed Solid: too tight?
Jun 16, 2015 5:38 PM - jbigler1986: Dang. Oh well. Kick him in the ass for me
Jun 16, 2015 5:38 PM - Printed Solid: or print another. Don't you have more than one printer?
Jun 16, 2015 5:38 PM - daniel871: I havent touched the printer in 2 weeks.
Jun 16, 2015 5:39 PM - daniel871: And no. Only have the one.
Jun 16, 2015 5:39 PM - Printed Solid: I can sell you my kickstarter model for cheap if you want to frankenstein it. (meant for jb, but daniel, you're welcome to consider it as well)
Jun 16, 2015 5:39 PM - Printed Solid: why did I think you had a flashforge or something?
Jun 16, 2015 5:40 PM - jbigler1986: He was talking about getting another printer
Jun 16, 2015 5:41 PM - daniel871: I was thinking about getting one after I finished learning on this one.
Jun 16, 2015 5:43 PM - jbigler1986: Glad i went this direct drive route. Learned a lot more about how it works
Jun 16, 2015 5:43 PM - Printed Solid: oh. OK. just fyi, I sell those as well now. I have a used one for $550.
Jun 16, 2015 5:43 PM - Printed Solid: ya. I'm not a huge bowden fan. You can print faster, but getting precision placement without occasional strings and blobs is a bit tougher.
Jun 16, 2015 5:45 PM - jbigler1986: Yeah thats one reason i haven't went fully that route
Jun 16, 2015 5:46 PM - Printed Solid: by the way, if you haven't already, print one of these. super fun. http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:882989
Jun 16, 2015 5:46 PM - daniel871: Ok. Found some permatex in my toolbox. That should work since its a clean break right?
Jun 16, 2015 5:46 PM - daniel871: Claims to work on plastics.
Jun 16, 2015 5:47 PM - jbigler1986: Yeah i have one in my keychain. I fiddle with it all of the time
Jun 16, 2015 5:48 PM - Printed Solid: kind of depends on how it broke. Try it and print a replacement at a very slow speed.
Jun 16, 2015 5:53 PM - jbigler1986: I have tons of spare parts. You never know
Jun 16, 2015 5:56 PM - daniel871: Straight break right on the inside edge where the nut puts pressure on the screw.
Jun 16, 2015 6:18 PM - Sims Reaper: Dan, one of my Y-axis belt tensioners was broke when I opened the box, and I snapped the other first time tightening it. Have replacements now from Robo, but I'm still using the superglued ones. I also printed off like 3 replacements too. lol First prints actually
Jun 16, 2015 6:18 PM - Sims Reaper: I just waited for the first glue film to dry and did two more to be sure. Both still holding strong
Jun 16, 2015 6:29 PM - daniel871: Whats the strongest material I can print spares in? PET?
Jun 16, 2015 6:29 PM - daniel871: PET+ rather?
Jun 16, 2015 6:33 PM - daniel871: Let it cure out overnight, right?
Jun 16, 2015 6:50 PM - Sims Reaper: i put the layers on in about 1/2 hr timings, then let it sit for like 3 hours. I was a little anxious to try out the printer for the first time, but they held. But that was with the quick setting glue
Jun 16, 2015 7:05 PM - jbigler1986: Damn. E step difference is crazy
Jun 16, 2015 7:16 PM - jbigler1986: New esteps is 169.2
Jun 16, 2015 7:26 PM - jbigler1986: Cube test on the way
Jun 16, 2015 7:26 PM - jbigler1986: Daniel how is it going
Jun 16, 2015 7:32 PM - daniel871: Got the glued belt tensioner on and going. Now trying to print some spares.
Jun 16, 2015 7:32 PM - jbigler1986: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/jbigler1986
Jun 16, 2015 7:33 PM - jbigler1986: first test print
Jun 16, 2015 7:33 PM - daniel871: Fingers crossed.
Jun 16, 2015 7:34 PM - jbigler1986: both test printing. lol
Jun 16, 2015 7:37 PM - daniel871: 1st attempt failed to stick to printinz. Tuned bed temp to 40c and reran and things look pretty good.
Jun 16, 2015 7:37 PM - jbigler1986: that's good
Jun 16, 2015 7:37 PM - daniel871: Bed temp was reading 30 with heat off, so only increased 10c
Jun 16, 2015 7:39 PM - daniel871: I think I'm going to like not spraying hairspray/applying glue.
Jun 16, 2015 7:39 PM - daniel871: Or tape.
Jun 16, 2015 7:39 PM - jbigler1986: reason why you went with that? seems like a hassle
Jun 16, 2015 7:39 PM - daniel871: Modified program starting code works great, btw.
Jun 16, 2015 7:40 PM - daniel871: Putting the plate on was pretty easy actually.
Jun 16, 2015 7:40 PM - jbigler1986: good. did you add the retract too?
Jun 16, 2015 7:41 PM - daniel871: Oops. Damn. Need to add that.
Jun 16, 2015 7:41 PM - jbigler1986: so happy this is working. been trying to get it to work for like 4 days
Jun 16, 2015 7:42 PM - daniel871: It had 1mm retract already at the end of the program. Is that enough?
Jun 16, 2015 7:42 PM - jbigler1986: i would do 2
Jun 16, 2015 7:42 PM - jbigler1986: 1mm is not much
Jun 16, 2015 7:42 PM - daniel871: Ok. I'll modify my base process.
Jun 16, 2015 7:43 PM - jbigler1986: i need to modify the base of the extruder and idler a little
Jun 16, 2015 7:44 PM - daniel871: Im just glad to be printing again.
Jun 16, 2015 7:44 PM - jbigler1986: might as well do it now
Jun 16, 2015 7:44 PM - jbigler1986: me too
Jun 16, 2015 7:45 PM - jbigler1986: although you have been down longer than me
Jun 16, 2015 7:46 PM - jbigler1986: i have been having to install gregs wade, print parts, remove gregs wade, test, install gregs wade.....
Jun 16, 2015 7:47 PM - jbigler1986: being able to actually watch the filament being extruded is really nice
Jun 16, 2015 7:50 PM - daniel871: Yep. Something soothing about the motor humming sounds.
Jun 16, 2015 7:50 PM - Bill Monroe: which is why I only run one fan
Jun 16, 2015 7:51 PM - jbigler1986: well hello there to you kind sir
Jun 16, 2015 7:51 PM - Bill Monroe: hey goober
Jun 16, 2015 7:51 PM - Bill Monroe: what did I miss?
Jun 16, 2015 7:51 PM - jbigler1986: did you see how low my esteps are now. lol
Jun 16, 2015 7:51 PM - jbigler1986: 169.2
Jun 16, 2015 7:52 PM - daniel871: Ok as soon as this is done Im going to bed. I'll put the new parts on tomorrow and get back to printing toys.
Jun 16, 2015 7:52 PM - Bill Monroe: for the extruder?
Jun 16, 2015 7:52 PM - jbigler1986: yeah
Jun 16, 2015 7:52 PM - Bill Monroe: that's nutz
Jun 16, 2015 7:53 PM - jbigler1986: had it at 666 to start extruder calibration. the filament that came out of my .4 nozzle diameter was .9
Jun 16, 2015 7:53 PM - Bill Monroe: that aint right
Jun 16, 2015 7:54 PM - jbigler1986: let me get a pic
Jun 16, 2015 7:56 PM - jbigler1986:
Jun 16, 2015 7:58 PM - jbigler1986:
Jun 16, 2015 7:59 PM - jbigler1986: right is with 666 esteps left is with 169.2
Jun 16, 2015 7:59 PM - Bill Monroe: wierd
Jun 16, 2015 7:59 PM - jbigler1986: same nozzle size
Jun 16, 2015 7:59 PM - jbigler1986: it's bc it was pushing it out so fast

 

Jun 16, 2015 7:59 PM - Bill Monroe: did you check the consumed length?
Jun 16, 2015 8:00 PM - jbigler1986: 666 steps push out probably around 200mm when it was told 100
Jun 16, 2015 8:01 PM - Bill Monroe: ok
Jun 16, 2015 8:01 PM - jbigler1986: printing a cube right now
Jun 16, 2015 8:01 PM - jbigler1986: no extruder noise whatsoever
Jun 16, 2015 8:02 PM - Bill Monroe: i never hear noise from my stock setup
Jun 16, 2015 8:02 PM - jbigler1986: you get a little noise from the gears
Jun 16, 2015 8:03 PM - jbigler1986: nothing to crazy.
Jun 16, 2015 8:03 PM - Bill Monroe: actually, I dont get any
Jun 16, 2015 8:03 PM - jbigler1986: i'm starting to be to much of a perfectionist with this damn thing
Jun 16, 2015 8:04 PM - jbigler1986: gotta modify the extruder a little then reprint it
Jun 16, 2015 8:04 PM - jbigler1986: are you using the stratsys body for your new printer?
Jun 16, 2015 8:05 PM - Bill Monroe: not entirely.. using the same X-Y but with longer rod and belts so as to make a bigger area and to allow both carriages to park out of the envelope
Jun 16, 2015 8:06 PM - jbigler1986: so kinda
Jun 16, 2015 8:06 PM - Bill Monroe: spacing out the three Z screws and two vert rods for the same reason
Jun 16, 2015 8:06 PM - jbigler1986: heated chamber?
Jun 16, 2015 8:06 PM - Bill Monroe: of course!
Jun 16, 2015 8:06 PM - jbigler1986: ABfnS
Jun 16, 2015 8:07 PM - Bill Monroe: running on it's own thermostate
Jun 16, 2015 8:07 PM - Bill Monroe: -e
Jun 16, 2015 8:07 PM - jbigler1986: what board are you using
Jun 16, 2015 8:07 PM - Bill Monroe: hvnt decided for sure, not a ramps though
Jun 16, 2015 8:08 PM - jbigler1986: yeah not sure if i would want to add much more with the current ramps
Jun 16, 2015 8:08 PM - Bill Monroe: i want to run the three z screws on their own motors.. so I can do genuine leveling
Jun 16, 2015 8:10 PM - jbigler1986:
Jun 16, 2015 8:10 PM - jbigler1986: Works for me
Jun 16, 2015 8:11 PM - Mike Kelly: kinda hate you
Jun 16, 2015 8:11 PM - jbigler1986: yeah separate motors is a good idea. would that be a pain to get them in sync during printing?
Jun 16, 2015 8:11 PM - jbigler1986: you love me
Jun 16, 2015 8:11 PM - Mike Kelly: though if i zoom in i see some layer issues!
Jun 16, 2015 8:11 PM - jbigler1986: that was at .2
Jun 16, 2015 8:12 PM - jbigler1986: sorry my phone allows you zoom in on the pics really well.
Jun 16, 2015 8:12 PM - jbigler1986: that was at 75mm/s too
Jun 16, 2015 8:13 PM - jbigler1986: u want a hug MK?
Jun 16, 2015 8:13 PM - Bill Monroe: not a pain.. just a call to a class that does the math and orders-up the compensation, then re-homes
Jun 16, 2015 8:13 PM - Bill Monroe: but i need them to be on seperate channels so I think there's only two choices
Jun 16, 2015 8:14 PM - Bill Monroe: using arduinos, that is
Jun 16, 2015 8:14 PM - Bill Monroe: I could just keep using the Labview program
Jun 16, 2015 8:15 PM - jbigler1986: 25.01, 25.03, 25.07 on the cube. not acceptable
Jun 16, 2015 8:16 PM - jbigler1986: what is labview
Jun 16, 2015 8:16 PM - jbigler1986: i have heard you talk about it before
Jun 16, 2015 8:16 PM - jbigler1986: MK you really want me to print marvin for you?
Jun 16, 2015 8:19 PM - Bill Monroe: its a control program that started years ago to makeup virtual instrumentation... over the years they added a lot of other feature like robotic controls and vision systems intergration
Jun 16, 2015 8:33 PM - Mike Kelly: lol na
Jun 16, 2015 8:52 PM - daniel871: Ok, I lied. Changed out the glued part for the newly printed part and started a print of the owl on a keg wearing a top hat. Now Im going to bed.

 

Jun 16, 2015 9:11 PM - Mike Glass: looks like some ringing?
Jun 16, 2015 9:20 PM - jbigler1986: U crazy
Jun 16, 2015 9:21 PM - jbigler1986: On that note going to bed. Goodnight fellas
Jun 17, 2015 2:54 AM - daniel871: Had a brilliant moment where I ran a print that required more filament than was on the spool. Loaded a new spool and started over.
Jun 17, 2015 3:37 AM - Bill Monroe: good morning
Jun 17, 2015 4:07 AM - jbigler1986: Morning
Jun 17, 2015 4:07 AM - Bill Monroe: jb
Jun 17, 2015 4:08 AM - jbigler1986: How is everyone today
Jun 17, 2015 4:09 AM - Bill Monroe: good, you?
Jun 17, 2015 4:10 AM - jbigler1986: Great. Printer is back in business so i have no complaints anymore. 3 day weekend
Jun 17, 2015 4:12 AM - Bill Monroe: 3 day weekends are the schiznit
Jun 17, 2015 4:49 AM - jbigler1986: yes they are
Jun 17, 2015 5:00 AM - jbigler1986: anyone printing anything
Jun 17, 2015 5:04 AM - Bill Monroe: yup
Jun 17, 2015 5:07 AM - jbigler1986: link
Jun 17, 2015 5:10 AM - Bill Monroe: aww jb, you know me better than that
Jun 17, 2015 5:11 AM - Bill Monroe: i'm making an adapter to use one of the cupholders in my truck to hold my iphone 6+
Jun 17, 2015 5:11 AM - jbigler1986: bills-lab?
Jun 17, 2015 5:12 AM - Bill Monroe: i'm not in my lab, using the ABS machine for this one as it get hits with sunlight often
Jun 17, 2015 5:13 AM - jbigler1986: how dare you not use the robo
Jun 17, 2015 5:13 AM - Stephen Capistron: ABS FTW
Jun 17, 2015 5:13 AM - jbigler1986: noooooooooo
Jun 17, 2015 5:13 AM - Bill Monroe: well, i'd use it if it could really make ABS prints
Jun 17, 2015 5:13 AM - jbigler1986: it is nice to sand. i will give it that
Jun 17, 2015 5:14 AM - daniel871: Oh, that reminds me that I need to attempt to print something in ABS since I have an enclosure now.
Jun 17, 2015 5:14 AM - daniel871: What's a good model to do in ABS?
Jun 17, 2015 5:15 AM - Stephen Capistron: I do a 10 - 20 loop brim and haven't had any issues
Jun 17, 2015 5:15 AM - jbigler1986: i will post my extruder in case anyone wants to use it after i install my latest modified one
Jun 17, 2015 5:16 AM - Stephen Capistron: that cup holder your dad needs for his truck
Jun 17, 2015 5:17 AM - jbigler1986: total cost for it is about $12
Jun 17, 2015 5:17 AM - daniel871: Just this basic thing here to start? http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:645152
Jun 17, 2015 5:17 AM - jbigler1986: will be less if you have nuts and bolts already
Jun 17, 2015 5:18 AM - daniel871: You mean in a thread here or on Thingiverse/Youmagine?
Jun 17, 2015 5:18 AM - Stephen Capistron: ABS has a good amount of flexibility in it which is nice
Jun 17, 2015 5:18 AM - Bill Monroe: While it's printing, I'm waxing one plane and draining the oil on the other
Jun 17, 2015 5:20 AM - Stephen Capistron: Bill, you should try printing this > http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:69851
Jun 17, 2015 5:22 AM - Bill Monroe: maybe when I get an SLA machine
Jun 17, 2015 5:22 AM - jbigler1986: thread here most likely
Jun 17, 2015 5:23 AM - daniel871: Is it a big improvement over the Greg's Wade?
Jun 17, 2015 5:25 AM - jbigler1986: 0 extruder noise. less weight. i like to see the filament
Jun 17, 2015 5:25 AM - jbigler1986: stepper isn't working as hard
Jun 17, 2015 5:25 AM - JeffTheMess: ood morning roboneers
Jun 17, 2015 5:25 AM - jbigler1986: e steps are only 169.2
Jun 17, 2015 5:25 AM - jbigler1986: morning Jeff
Jun 17, 2015 5:26 AM - daniel871: I've lost track of my upgrade project list, lol.
Jun 17, 2015 5:26 AM - JeffTheMess: How you been JB
Jun 17, 2015 5:27 AM - jbigler1986: good now
Jun 17, 2015 5:27 AM - jbigler1986: u?
Jun 17, 2015 5:27 AM - JeffTheMess: printers problems?
Jun 17, 2015 5:28 AM - JeffTheMess: I miss my printer i Haven't printed in awhile
Jun 17, 2015 5:28 AM - jbigler1986: not really a "problem". I went direct drive so i was trying to get that working for like 4 days
Jun 17, 2015 5:28 AM - jbigler1986: got it working great last night
Jun 17, 2015 5:28 AM - Stephen Capistron: You should put a DRV8825 stepper driver in on the extruder so you can have a few more steps/mm
Jun 17, 2015 5:29 AM - JeffTheMess: ahh....you went back to direct...why the change again?
Jun 17, 2015 5:29 AM - jbigler1986: not gregs wade direct
Jun 17, 2015 5:30 AM - jbigler1986:
Jun 17, 2015 5:31 AM - JeffTheMess: ahh..okay..working good now...you printed anything with it yet?
Jun 17, 2015 5:31 AM - Stephen Capistron: spaghetti party at JBs
Jun 17, 2015 5:31 AM - jbigler1986: yeah. i was calibrating extruder. lol
Jun 17, 2015 5:32 AM - jbigler1986: i could use this for bowden if i wanted to. 666 esteps 100mm extruded so fast with no slippage at all
Jun 17, 2015 5:34 AM - jbigler1986: no thanks on that though
Jun 17, 2015 5:34 AM - Stephen Capistron: But think of how fast you could print. You and Don could race
Jun 17, 2015 5:36 AM - jbigler1986: printing at like 120mm/s would be nice sometimes
Jun 17, 2015 5:36 AM - JeffTheMess: I smell some gambling about to happen
Jun 17, 2015 5:36 AM - jbigler1986: or does he print at 140?
Jun 17, 2015 5:40 AM - Stephen Capistron: I believe he has gone right up to 150
Jun 17, 2015 5:42 AM - JeffTheMess: wow
Jun 17, 2015 5:43 AM - jbigler1986: i don't think i want to go bowden. although it would only take a few minutes to set it up
Jun 17, 2015 5:47 AM - daniel871: I was doing 150 on the Robo a few weeks ago with the volcano just to see if it would do it when printing my tool holder.
Jun 17, 2015 5:47 AM - daniel871: Made a fair amount of noise and wasn't that pretty, but it did it.
Jun 17, 2015 5:48 AM - daniel871: Anyway, found the next thing everyone should print. http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:824620
Jun 17, 2015 5:50 AM - jbigler1986: yeah i wouldn't go over 100 with the wight of gregs wade on there
Jun 17, 2015 5:53 AM - jbigler1986: i have printed a few things at 100 with gregs wade. didn't sound all that good. print was good.
Jun 17, 2015 5:54 AM - daniel871: The straight gears on the extruder would click and rattle when changing direction so yeah, I wouldn't push it that fast again.
Jun 17, 2015 5:55 AM - daniel871: Figured the herringbone gears would do better if I ever get around to printing them and have them mounted.
Jun 17, 2015 6:02 AM - jbigler1986: should not need to calibrate after adding those either. i didn't
Jun 17, 2015 6:04 AM - daniel871: My problem was that the first attempt in Nylon literally came apart in layers when attempting to print with it. But that was pre-enclosure and this time I figure I'll just make it out of PLA since the torque needed to break that would overpower the stepper anyway (right?).
Jun 17, 2015 6:05 AM - daniel871: Hahahaha! http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:857081
Jun 17, 2015 6:06 AM - jbigler1986: really doesn't take that much effort to stall the stepper
Jun 17, 2015 6:09 AM - daniel871: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:75413
Jun 17, 2015 6:24 AM - jbigler1986: i don't want to be at work right now
Jun 17, 2015 6:24 AM - JeffTheMess: I Co-sign that jb
Jun 17, 2015 6:26 AM - Stephen Capistron: http://hackaday.com/2015/06/16/prevent-failed-prints-with-a-filament-speed-sensor/
Jun 17, 2015 6:31 AM - JeffTheMess: Good one Stephen
Jun 17, 2015 6:31 AM - Stephen Capistron: Short article for me
Jun 17, 2015 6:33 AM - JeffTheMess: for once you gave us a short one lol....most of the articles you share are great
Jun 17, 2015 6:35 AM - JeffTheMess: anybody ever printed an assembled 1:1 bevel gear box?
Jun 17, 2015 6:35 AM - jbigler1986: hmmm. someone really needs to make a good filament sensor. pretty sure makerbot smart extruder has one built into the extruder
Jun 17, 2015 6:35 AM - jbigler1986: i would pay for it
Jun 17, 2015 6:36 AM - Stephen Capistron: they do have a little encoder built into the smart extruder that makes sure filament is still being fed
Jun 17, 2015 6:37 AM - jbigler1986: thought so. so........
Jun 17, 2015 6:37 AM - daniel871: Hm.
Jun 17, 2015 6:38 AM - Stephen Capistron: Know german? > http://sparklab-shop.de/parts/spareparts/28/fts-filament-tracking-system
Jun 17, 2015 6:38 AM - daniel871: How would you code it to work with the on-board firmware though?
Jun 17, 2015 6:39 AM - Stephen Capistron: Ideally it would go M140 S0 | M104 S0 | G28 X all from one of the spare pins
Jun 17, 2015 6:40 AM - Stephen Capistron: Ziggy could answer this I'm sure
Jun 17, 2015 6:40 AM - daniel871: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/g4031hbsyz99rme/AAAVz5FlsT3rlf2-YxLdtuxZa?dl=0
Jun 17, 2015 6:40 AM - daniel871: Source for all the parts/etc.
Jun 17, 2015 6:42 AM - jbigler1986: someone made one and was selling it for like $60 i think
Jun 17, 2015 6:45 AM - daniel871: http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?247,505679

 

Jun 17, 2015 6:45 AM - daniel871: And Google Translate in Chrome
Jun 17, 2015 6:45 AM - JeffTheMess: Wheres the fun in buying it
Jun 17, 2015 6:45 AM - daniel871: Seems like Marlin can't work with it.
Jun 17, 2015 6:50 AM - jbigler1986: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:454584
Jun 17, 2015 6:52 AM - jbigler1986: "A version of Marlin is modified to use the sensor data."
Jun 17, 2015 6:52 AM - jbigler1986: https://www.youmagine.com/designs/filament-sensor-for-3d-printers-and-filament-extruders
Jun 17, 2015 6:55 AM - Stephen Capistron: http://owi.storenvy.com/products/10451151-filament-sensor-kit
Jun 17, 2015 6:57 AM - daniel871: "We have over 50 happy customers so far".
Jun 17, 2015 6:57 AM - daniel871:
Jun 17, 2015 6:57 AM - jbigler1986: does it work if it stops sensing filament flow?
Jun 17, 2015 6:57 AM - jbigler1986: like i know it will work if the filament runs out
Jun 17, 2015 6:58 AM - daniel871: I guess the part where it adjusts extruder speed to compensate for filament thickness variations is supposed to prevent clogging.
Jun 17, 2015 6:59 AM - daniel871: I'm thinking that unless I'm having a ton of clog problems I'm not going to bother with it though.
Jun 17, 2015 6:59 AM - daniel871: Most of my problems so far have been me doing something wrong with the assembly/setup.
Jun 17, 2015 7:00 AM - daniel871: Also I'm nowhere near confident that I can modify the firmware to work with the Robo.
Jun 17, 2015 7:01 AM - Stephen Capistron: Looking into this a bit more A system like this will only work for LCD controlled prints as there is no real way for the printer to talk to the host software on a PC
Jun 17, 2015 7:02 AM - jbigler1986: which most people have (get with the program Stephen)
Jun 17, 2015 7:02 AM - daniel871: That's the only plus for me so far because I only use my PC to slice.
Jun 17, 2015 7:03 AM - Stephen Capistron: I like my PC setup
Jun 17, 2015 7:04 AM - Stephen Capistron: Having to save to SD, unmount, plug it into the LCD, load the file, ... ugh
Jun 17, 2015 7:05 AM - Stephen Capistron: Now if you could plug your computer into the LCD so that you could map it as an external drive save directly to the lcd. Launch from the PC and let the LCD take it from there that would be awesome
Jun 17, 2015 7:06 AM - daniel871: Most people just go for a wireless Octoprint setup for that.
Jun 17, 2015 7:06 AM - Stephen Capistron: But they call that octoprint
Jun 17, 2015 7:06 AM - daniel871: Bam.
Jun 17, 2015 7:06 AM - Stephen Capistron: I have one in my amazon account saved for later. Some day ...
Jun 17, 2015 7:07 AM - Mike Kelly: morning
Jun 17, 2015 7:07 AM - daniel871: Morning.
Jun 17, 2015 7:07 AM - daniel871: Finally printing again!
Jun 17, 2015 7:07 AM - Mike Kelly: hazzah!
Jun 17, 2015 7:09 AM - jbigler1986: hey there
Jun 17, 2015 7:09 AM - Mike Kelly: how's everyone this am
Jun 17, 2015 7:10 AM - daniel871: This kit, Stephen? http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspb...8&qid=1434550210&sr=8-1&keywords=Raspberry+pi
Jun 17, 2015 7:10 AM - daniel871: Couldn't find any actual Octoprint kits.
Jun 17, 2015 7:11 AM - Stephen Capistron: kit? no just a B+ and a wifi dongle
Jun 17, 2015 7:11 AM - jbigler1986: great. how are you Mike
Jun 17, 2015 7:12 AM - Mike Kelly: can't complain really
Jun 17, 2015 7:13 AM - Mike Kelly: they gave me a 4* for service on 3d hubs
Jun 17, 2015 7:15 AM - JeffTheMess:
Jun 17, 2015 7:15 AM - jbigler1986: those sluts
Jun 17, 2015 7:17 AM - Mike Kelly: rest was 5 at least but still
Jun 17, 2015 7:19 AM - jbigler1986: reprinted my modfied extruder. looks better and will fit without having to drill out or file anything
Jun 17, 2015 7:22 AM - Bill Monroe: Chrstmas has come early
Jun 17, 2015 7:22 AM - jbigler1986: ?
Jun 17, 2015 7:22 AM - JeffTheMess: Hey Mike I need some help making a bevel gear box assembled for printing
Jun 17, 2015 7:23 AM - Bill Monroe: Labview can now be compiled for Arduino targets
Jun 17, 2015 7:26 AM - Mike Kelly: ok jeff
Jun 17, 2015 7:27 AM - Mike Kelly: what do you need help with?
Jun 17, 2015 7:28 AM - JeffTheMess: its more of the printing side not much of the design...for example whats the max support I should use, how much tolerance should I allow, since I want to print it all assembled in the box.
Jun 17, 2015 7:31 AM - Mike Kelly: you want to print a whole box in one go?
Jun 17, 2015 7:32 AM - daniel871: Should've printed in an unusual material, MK. I got away with all kinds of problems because it was made of wood.
Jun 17, 2015 7:33 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah apparently
Jun 17, 2015 7:33 AM - daniel871: I think I read somewhere that if you want to print an assembly you need to leave .5mm total gap between faces in the assembly.
Jun 17, 2015 7:34 AM - Mike Kelly: that's generally a good tolerance
Jun 17, 2015 7:34 AM - Mike Kelly: unless you're JB and can do .2mm
Jun 17, 2015 7:34 AM - JeffTheMess: Yes one whole solid box, gears inside
Jun 17, 2015 7:35 AM - daniel871: I read it as .25 on the radius when circular objects are assembled.
Jun 17, 2015 7:35 AM - Mike Kelly: what do you mean by max support
Jun 17, 2015 7:35 AM - Stephen Capistron: .2? .05
Jun 17, 2015 7:37 AM - JeffTheMess: Well support material will be hard to break off when you can't reach it right, so I assume there will be support material inside the box to support the gears
Jun 17, 2015 7:37 AM - Stephen Capistron: On a serious note, you will want to play around with the z-gap between parts. That is if you are essentially taking emmets gear bearing and sticking it in a box
Jun 17, 2015 7:38 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah there will be, got a dual extruder?
Jun 17, 2015 7:38 AM - daniel871: I kind of want to do exactly that, but in a cylinder that has hard stops on the angle of rotation on the outside (for like a 100 degree pivot for a stand assembly).
Jun 17, 2015 7:38 AM - daniel871: Can you do really thin support that will basically grind to dust in the gears?
Jun 17, 2015 7:39 AM - Stephen Capistron: I am struggling with why nuts, bolts, and or screws are unacceptable
Jun 17, 2015 7:39 AM - daniel871: Like, have a face on one side of the Ring gear, than another on the opposite side of the Sun gear that goes out to match the diameter of the Ring gear and have some notches for rotation alignment.
Jun 17, 2015 7:40 AM - daniel871: The bolts/nuts/screws would be for attaching the mounting bits on the outside of the closed gear box without interfering with the gears themselves.
Jun 17, 2015 7:40 AM - Mike Kelly: some people are obsessed with things being entirely printed
Jun 17, 2015 7:42 AM - jbigler1986: yeah i was that way. but i'm ok with nuts and bolts now
Jun 17, 2015 8:00 AM - JeffTheMess: I just wanted it to be all in one print make it look neat and functionally
Jun 17, 2015 8:02 AM - JeffTheMess: oh, I wasn't going to use a bearing at all
Jun 17, 2015 8:03 AM - JeffTheMess: The motor will be active for less than 30 seconds at a time, a few times a day.
Jun 17, 2015 8:29 AM - daniel871: Am I wrong in thinking that the full graphics LCD firmware updates were for mods vs. things already in the firmware that the display will recognize?
Jun 17, 2015 8:31 AM - Mike Kelly: not following
Jun 17, 2015 8:35 AM - daniel871: Someone is asking what firmware files they need to update to make the full graphics LCD function and I'm thinking you only need to change things for the display mods you want.
Jun 17, 2015 8:35 AM - daniel871: Like what Ziggy was doing before he disappeared.
Jun 17, 2015 8:35 AM - jbigler1986: got my ptfe tube
Jun 17, 2015 8:35 AM - Mike Kelly: you need to add the image repository
Jun 17, 2015 8:36 AM - Mike Kelly: jb knows better than I
Jun 17, 2015 8:36 AM - daniel871: Thought there was a thread with instructions, but a search just shows people talking about it and Ziggy's threads.
Jun 17, 2015 8:36 AM - jbigler1986: for what
Jun 17, 2015 8:37 AM - daniel871: Full Graphics LCD installation and firmware changes needed to make it work.
Jun 17, 2015 8:37 AM - jbigler1986: they are easy
Jun 17, 2015 8:37 AM - daniel871: See Printerrnoob's Troubleshooting thread.
Jun 17, 2015 8:39 AM - jbigler1986: ahhh
Jun 17, 2015 8:39 AM - jbigler1986: Man I should just remove the new rods thread. Keep forgetting about it
Jun 17, 2015 8:40 AM - Stephen Capistron: it is a good depository for the pictures
Jun 17, 2015 8:40 AM - daniel871: Some of the pictures are broken for me.
Jun 17, 2015 8:42 AM - Mike Kelly: he's linking them wrong
Jun 17, 2015 8:43 AM - jbigler1986: no they were good for a while
Jun 17, 2015 8:43 AM - jbigler1986: idk what happened
Jun 17, 2015 8:45 AM - JeffTheMess: does solidworks have an "accelerated design" where you input certain values and it will design it for you? anyone know if it also has tolerance?
Jun 17, 2015 8:46 AM - Mike Kelly: like global variables?
Jun 17, 2015 8:46 AM - jbigler1986: tolerance is machine driven. it will vary by what your machine can print with
Jun 17, 2015 8:46 AM - JeffTheMess: yup
Jun 17, 2015 8:47 AM - Mike Glass: KABOOOM, thats for Stephen. Morning
Jun 17, 2015 8:47 AM - Mike Kelly: mornin mike
Jun 17, 2015 8:47 AM - JeffTheMess: I know that but can you add tolerance to the global variables?
Jun 17, 2015 8:47 AM - daniel871: Yeah, Solidworks can do some pretty fancy designwork for you once you define the general template.
Jun 17, 2015 8:47 AM - daniel871: Key bit there is defining the general template.
Jun 17, 2015 8:47 AM - JeffTheMess: Morning Mike

 

Jun 17, 2015 8:47 AM - Stephen Capistron: it got my attention
Jun 17, 2015 8:48 AM - Mike Glass: I know you like explosions.
Jun 17, 2015 8:48 AM - daniel871: They literally have a Designworks module or something with a similar name for the Pro/Premium packages.
Jun 17, 2015 8:48 AM - Stephen Capistron: I need to sign up for that Arnold thing
Jun 17, 2015 8:48 AM - Mike Kelly: lol
Jun 17, 2015 8:48 AM - daniel871: If I had a chance in hell of winning I'd throw $20 at it.
Jun 17, 2015 8:48 AM - Mike Kelly: you should stephen
Jun 17, 2015 8:49 AM - Mike Glass: Jeff, there are tolerence settings within SW, as far as measurements
Jun 17, 2015 8:49 AM - Mike Kelly: jeff you define the tolerance as a global variable then add that to the drawing
Jun 17, 2015 8:49 AM - JeffTheMess: thanks Mike
Jun 17, 2015 8:49 AM - daniel871: It even has a Tolerance Checker feature to let you know if you're tolerancing in ways that will conflict in an assembly.
Jun 17, 2015 8:50 AM - Mike Kelly: so say you wanted a 20mm surface minus a tolerance you'd do =20-t
Jun 17, 2015 8:50 AM - daniel871: But I think that's in the Assembly mode of it.
Jun 17, 2015 8:50 AM - Mike Glass: I think you can do it on individual parts also, is that correct Mike?
Jun 17, 2015 8:50 AM - Stephen Capistron: i always do my tolerance checking the hard way
Jun 17, 2015 8:52 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah most likely I will convert the assembly to a normal part then change its ratio manually ( im using autodesk inventor)
Jun 17, 2015 8:54 AM - Mike Glass:
Jun 17, 2015 8:55 AM - Mike Glass: I used to use Inventor, it was nice but really like SW better.
Jun 17, 2015 8:56 AM - JeffTheMess: no one has yet convinced me to make the change
Jun 17, 2015 8:56 AM - daniel871: Woah.
Jun 17, 2015 8:57 AM - Stephen Capistron: i am creeped out by that
Jun 17, 2015 8:57 AM - Stephen Capistron: make it go away
Jun 17, 2015 8:57 AM - daniel871: Just got that pic from my cousin when he checked on my printer.
Jun 17, 2015 8:57 AM - Mike Glass: just try it, you may convince yourself.
Jun 17, 2015 8:57 AM - Mike Kelly: inventor is very comparable to solidworks, but it's just missing all the nice plugins
Jun 17, 2015 8:57 AM - daniel871: So glad it finished. That's laywood again but with a .8 nozzle on the volcano.
Jun 17, 2015 8:58 AM - Stephen Capistron: you use a strange skirt. why so many loops?
Jun 17, 2015 8:58 AM - JeffTheMess: How big is the learning curve?
Jun 17, 2015 8:58 AM - daniel871: Because I had the filament retracted on purpose to keep the wood out of the melt zone and wanted it to have plenty of time to prime before printing the actual part.
Jun 17, 2015 8:58 AM - Mike Kelly: if you know inventor you'll jump right in
Jun 17, 2015 8:59 AM - daniel871: Because the volcano is hell on wood filaments if the material stays in the melt zone for too long.
Jun 17, 2015 8:59 AM - JeffTheMess: I guess I'm going to have to try and get the JB special software
Jun 17, 2015 9:00 AM - Mike Glass: Plus it way less steps first creating a part, a real time saver.
Jun 17, 2015 9:00 AM - JeffTheMess: Mike K you still having loading issues?
Jun 17, 2015 9:02 AM - Mike Kelly: loading issues?
Jun 17, 2015 9:02 AM - JeffTheMess: I remember you had some issues opening files or something like that
Jun 17, 2015 9:02 AM - Mike Glass: I thought it was a discharge issue.
Jun 17, 2015 9:03 AM - Mike Kelly: na it's just that my model is so complex i'm pushing the limits of what solidworks is capable of
Jun 17, 2015 9:04 AM - Mike Kelly: need catia
Jun 17, 2015 9:04 AM - JeffTheMess: You want the Gorilla in the room
Jun 17, 2015 9:07 AM - JeffTheMess: Catia is what the big dogs use
Jun 17, 2015 9:07 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah
Jun 17, 2015 9:07 AM - Mike Kelly: for now i'd be happy to see if solidworks 2015 improves things
Jun 17, 2015 9:08 AM - JeffTheMess: Is sw 2015 subscription based?
Jun 17, 2015 9:08 AM - Mike Kelly: no you still have a license
Jun 17, 2015 9:09 AM - daniel871: Still a license. Don't think they're going subscription based for anything but the support/upgrade thing.
Jun 17, 2015 9:09 AM - Mike Kelly: their new design tools are all subscription based
Jun 17, 2015 9:10 AM - Mike Kelly: i guess they call them the "3D experience"
Jun 17, 2015 9:10 AM - Mike Kelly: but they're independant of solidworks
Jun 17, 2015 9:11 AM - daniel871: Inspector, Fluid Simulation, Plastics, etc.
Jun 17, 2015 9:11 AM - daniel871: I had a field day playing around with the Weldments module when I discovered it.
Jun 17, 2015 9:12 AM - JeffTheMess: I love fancy names that add a price tag to it
Jun 17, 2015 9:12 AM - Mike Kelly: weldments is amazing
Jun 17, 2015 9:12 AM - Mike Kelly: that and routing are like 90% of what i do
Jun 17, 2015 9:14 AM - daniel871: Oh god, Routing.
Jun 17, 2015 9:15 AM - daniel871: People that build their own PC's or arduino/whatever machines would love getting their hands on that.
Jun 17, 2015 9:15 AM - daniel871: "How much of this wiring do I need to get from A to B?"
Jun 17, 2015 9:15 AM - Mike Kelly: ohh yea
Jun 17, 2015 9:15 AM - daniel871: Also plumbing.
Jun 17, 2015 9:16 AM - Mike Kelly: then send out for perfectly formed routes
Jun 17, 2015 9:16 AM - Mike Kelly: i really wish we had a CNC pipe bender
Jun 17, 2015 9:16 AM - Mike Kelly: our welders are decent but there's too much slop and errors
Jun 17, 2015 9:17 AM - Mike Glass: never seen a cnc pipe bender
Jun 17, 2015 9:19 AM - Mike Kelly: they're epic
Jun 17, 2015 9:20 AM - Mike Kelly: though you're kinda limited by what you can bend so as to stay along the weld seam
Jun 17, 2015 9:25 AM - Mike Glass: looks like I can replace the bearings in my Foredom with regular 608z, didnt know you could take them apart.
Jun 17, 2015 9:26 AM - jbigler1986: daniel my ptfe was actually 5 feet
Jun 17, 2015 9:27 AM - jbigler1986: so i'm 2 for 2
Jun 17, 2015 9:28 AM - Mike Kelly: i need to buy some more PTFE and make more of a loop when i go hybrid, see if that improves
Jun 17, 2015 9:30 AM - jbigler1986: i got clear this time
Jun 17, 2015 9:31 AM - daniel871: How does printing with a Bowden setup work if you run up to the end of a spool? Do you just lose the filament from the extruder gear to the hotend?
Jun 17, 2015 9:32 AM - daniel871: Talking about lots of PTFE tubing got me thinking about whether to do direct drive like JB or try to do some kind of bowden setup.
Jun 17, 2015 9:32 AM - jbigler1986: just like the e3d ptfe tube does
Jun 17, 2015 9:32 AM - jbigler1986: you run ptfe tube from the hotend all the way to the extruder
Jun 17, 2015 9:33 AM - daniel871: I'm thinking more in terms of the wasted filament than the setup.
Jun 17, 2015 9:33 AM - jbigler1986: wasted filament?
Jun 17, 2015 9:33 AM - daniel871: Say the end of the filament comes out of the gear, so you have however many inches of filament with nothing pushing it through the extruder.
Jun 17, 2015 9:33 AM - daniel871: On the bowden setup that mounts outside of a printer.
Jun 17, 2015 9:33 AM - Mike Kelly: you lose that length of filametn
Jun 17, 2015 9:34 AM - daniel871: So a small direct-drive setup is the better of the three options (Greg's Wade vs Bowden vs Direct Drive)?
Jun 17, 2015 9:35 AM - Stephen Capistron: only if you are using "goldfill™"
Jun 17, 2015 9:35 AM - daniel871: Eumaker's PLA is pretty f-ing expensive, too.
Jun 17, 2015 9:35 AM - daniel871: Havne't bought any, but damn.
Jun 17, 2015 9:36 AM - Stephen Capistron: colorfabb pla/pha is $40 as well
Jun 17, 2015 9:37 AM - jbigler1986: well gregs is technically direct drive as well
Jun 17, 2015 9:39 AM - Stephen Capistron: you lose torque and resolution without any gearing.
Jun 17, 2015 9:39 AM - jbigler1986: not needed
Jun 17, 2015 9:40 AM - jbigler1986: plenty of torque. resolution seems just fine to me
Jun 17, 2015 9:40 AM - jbigler1986: extruder is working way less
Jun 17, 2015 9:42 AM - jbigler1986: also losing resolution? how so
Jun 17, 2015 9:42 AM - Stephen Capistron: takes fewer steps to displace the same amount of filament
Jun 17, 2015 9:43 AM - Stephen Capistron: I have no idea if it is needed. Probably only if you do crazy stuff like tesseract
Jun 17, 2015 9:43 AM - jbigler1986: still pushing out the same amount
Jun 17, 2015 9:43 AM - jbigler1986: just less the stepper is working
Jun 17, 2015 9:44 AM - jbigler1986: I don't think it's as important as z steps
Jun 17, 2015 9:55 AM - Stephen Capistron: lets say you are 167.33 steps /mm and you have a feature that requires exactly 1mm your stepper will do 167 steps and you'll get .998mm. Close enough. If you are at 723.33 steps/mm it would step 723 for .9995mm. That error gets multiplied by the reduction in nozzle sixe though. So 1mm @ 1.75 diameter is 19.14mm @ .4mm diameter so you could be off by .04mm in extruded length versus .01mm with a higher e-step configuration
Jun 17, 2015 9:55 AM - Stephen Capistron: Probably only matters for fine detail stuff
Jun 17, 2015 9:57 AM - Stephen Capistron: As you go down in layer height it will get worse
Jun 17, 2015 9:57 AM - JeffTheMess: seems legit
Jun 17, 2015 9:58 AM - jbigler1986: i will print at .1 and see how it looks. .2 looks just a before

 

Jun 17, 2015 9:58 AM - Stephen Capistron: And I say all this, while at the same time saying you are going to be hard pressed to tell the difference i think
Jun 17, 2015 10:00 AM - jbigler1986: explain to me how 1.75 filament coming out of a .4 nozzle the diameter can be .9
Jun 17, 2015 10:02 AM - Stephen Capistron: Talking about the crazy die expansion you got without adjusting your e-steps?
Jun 17, 2015 10:02 AM - jbigler1986: yeah. i was like wtf
Jun 17, 2015 10:02 AM - jbigler1986: it was pushing it out so damn fast
Jun 17, 2015 10:03 AM - Stephen Capistron: That is a pretty common thing. The liquid plastic is under intense pressure at the nozzle to the point that is is physically compressed at that point and as soon as it gets to open space it expands
Jun 17, 2015 10:03 AM - Stephen Capistron: That is why simplify3D has the option to set nozzle diameter and extrusion width
Jun 17, 2015 10:04 AM - jbigler1986: extruded fine though. lol
Jun 17, 2015 10:04 AM - jbigler1986: needless to say 100mm extrusion was more like 200mm
Jun 17, 2015 10:07 AM - Stephen Capistron: this is an image for a tube that undergoes the same swelling, but it gives you a good idea as to what is going on
Jun 17, 2015 10:07 AM - Stephen Capistron:
Jun 17, 2015 10:07 AM - jbigler1986: i may try to print at 120mm tonight. i know the extruder can handle it. x/y idk
Jun 17, 2015 10:07 AM - Stephen Capistron: Keep in mind that hot plastic can swell a lot easier than cold metal.
Jun 17, 2015 10:08 AM - Stephen Capistron: ringing will be your enemy at higher speeds as the belt start to stretch and contract ever so slightly due to changes in speed
Jun 17, 2015 10:09 AM - jbigler1986: we shall see
Jun 17, 2015 10:10 AM - jbigler1986: is there a different material of belt that would help that
Jun 17, 2015 10:10 AM - Stephen Capistron: its called a ground ball screw
Jun 17, 2015 10:11 AM - Stephen Capistron: or a bigger belt
Jun 17, 2015 10:11 AM - Stephen Capistron: as it is those belts have kevlar in them and are crazy strong, but they can stretch some still
Jun 17, 2015 10:12 AM - Stephen Capistron: Largest I see are 9mm wide > http://www.sdp-si.com/products/belts/gt2.htm
Jun 17, 2015 10:13 AM - Stephen Capistron: Ha, at a coarser pitch you could get 25mm wide
Jun 17, 2015 10:13 AM - daniel871: Direct-drive X & Y axis upgrades that use ball screws/bearings.
Jun 17, 2015 10:15 AM - Stephen Capistron: If Toy were around he'd drop an ebay link
Jun 17, 2015 10:15 AM - daniel871: Think I saw pictures of a heavily modified Robo someone had that was basically that.
Jun 17, 2015 10:16 AM - daniel871: Probably toy's.
Jun 17, 2015 10:16 AM - Mike Glass: here ya go http://www.ebay.com/itm/271619139257?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Jun 17, 2015 10:17 AM - jbigler1986: i hate ebay
Jun 17, 2015 10:17 AM - Stephen Capistron: what will we do with that sensor shield?
Jun 17, 2015 10:18 AM - Mike Glass: I dunno, make something cool with your arduino nano
Jun 17, 2015 10:18 AM - Mike Glass: like a filament sensor
Jun 17, 2015 10:20 AM - Stephen Capistron: i have no idea how I could get a nano to send G-code to the Mega to override what is coming in from the PC
Jun 17, 2015 10:25 AM - jbigler1986: get an LCD
Jun 17, 2015 10:25 AM - jbigler1986:
Jun 17, 2015 10:26 AM - Stephen Capistron: Hell, I'd be okay with a filament sensor that forced a temp fall error by just having a fan blow on the heater block
Jun 17, 2015 10:26 AM - Stephen Capistron: If I'm going to go through any effort It will be an octoprint
Jun 17, 2015 10:27 AM - jbigler1986: it's not good to have it tethered to the printer
Jun 17, 2015 10:27 AM - Mike Glass: could this guy clench his teeth anymore!
Jun 17, 2015 10:28 AM - Stephen Capistron: The octo? why?
Jun 17, 2015 10:37 AM - daniel871: Ha! http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:96099/#files
Jun 17, 2015 10:38 AM - Mike Glass:
Jun 17, 2015 10:40 AM - daniel871: Looking for something to 3D print for Father's Day that would be neat and saw that.
Jun 17, 2015 10:41 AM - daniel871: Probably going to print the Dad version of the Mombal heart thing that was posted back around Mother's Day.
Jun 17, 2015 10:42 AM - daniel871: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:879259
Jun 17, 2015 10:47 AM - Stephen Capistron: You know those corny "family" stickers people put on the back of their SUVs that show the family
Jun 17, 2015 10:48 AM - Stephen Capistron:
Jun 17, 2015 10:48 AM - Stephen Capistron: I swear I saw one with darth vader and princess leah as the parents
Jun 17, 2015 10:49 AM - Stephen Capistron: About a minute later it occurred to me how messed up that is.
Jun 17, 2015 10:56 AM - daniel871: What state do you live in again, Stephen?
Jun 17, 2015 10:57 AM - Stephen Capistron: Massachusetts
Jun 17, 2015 10:58 AM - daniel871: Nevermind, was going to make a joke about inbreeding populations if it had been Arkansas or Alabama or some other hotbed of Republicans.
Jun 17, 2015 11:01 AM - donhuevo: Appalachians in Space
Jun 17, 2015 11:01 AM - donhuevo: in 3D
Jun 17, 2015 11:07 AM - Mike Glass: Yep saw that yesterday,
Jun 17, 2015 11:07 AM - Mike Glass: the dog was r2-d2
Jun 17, 2015 11:11 AM - Mike Kelly: woof
Jun 17, 2015 11:12 AM - Mike Kelly: should have been han solo and leah
Jun 17, 2015 11:17 AM - Stephen Capistron: right
Jun 17, 2015 11:17 AM - Mike Glass: no Luke
Jun 17, 2015 11:17 AM - Mike Glass: perfect for east helena anyways
Jun 17, 2015 11:20 AM - Mike Kelly: heyo
Jun 17, 2015 11:37 AM - donhuevo:
Jun 17, 2015 11:38 AM - Mike Glass: pretty bad when even nomes are zombies
Jun 17, 2015 11:39 AM - donhuevo: I want to collect the whole set
Jun 17, 2015 11:40 AM - Stephen Capistron: http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/20...s!-MIT-scientists-set-cold-temperature-record
Jun 17, 2015 11:53 AM - Mike Glass: haha somebody one upped TSG Guitar on facebook.
Jun 17, 2015 11:57 AM - Stephen Capistron: got a non-facebook link?
Jun 17, 2015 11:58 AM - Mike Glass: https://myminifactory.com/object/hr-giger-guitar-6810
Jun 17, 2015 11:59 AM - Stephen Capistron: I met these guys at an event Monday night > http://www.ridgewing.com/
Jun 17, 2015 11:59 AM - Mike Glass: he is printing it on his KS robo
Jun 17, 2015 11:59 AM - Stephen Capistron: I don't understand the acoustics of it, but whatever
Jun 17, 2015 12:01 PM - Mike Glass: its electric so its all twang the same
Jun 17, 2015 12:01 PM - JeffTheMess: the coldest place in the universe is here on earth
Jun 17, 2015 12:02 PM - JeffTheMess: I have to find the website where they went even colder
Jun 17, 2015 12:02 PM - Stephen Capistron: they use an acoustic pickup on the ridgewing
Jun 17, 2015 12:05 PM - Mike Glass: yep its all eazo piezo
Jun 17, 2015 12:09 PM - Mike Kelly: i wish axislab still had time to come around here
Jun 17, 2015 12:09 PM - Mike Kelly: he was a cool guy
Jun 17, 2015 12:09 PM - Mike Kelly: that article on 500nanokelvin is awesome
Jun 17, 2015 12:10 PM - Stephen Capistron: what is cooler than kelvin? nanokelvin!
Jun 17, 2015 12:10 PM - Mike Glass: runs his own print shop now
Jun 17, 2015 12:11 PM - Mike Kelly: yup
Jun 17, 2015 12:11 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah 1 nanokelvin is indeed cooler than 1 kelvin
Jun 17, 2015 12:11 PM - Mike Glass: Petakelvin is warm
Jun 17, 2015 12:14 PM - Mike Kelly: man i really don't want to deal with visitors
Jun 17, 2015 12:16 PM - Stephen Capistron: come down with the flu
Jun 17, 2015 12:16 PM - Stephen Capistron: or a stomach bug
Jun 17, 2015 12:16 PM - Mike Kelly: luckily i don't have to stay long, my coworker needs a ride to the airport
Jun 17, 2015 12:18 PM - Stephen Capistron: it has been a while since i've been to Denver. Airport is out in the country right?
Jun 17, 2015 12:18 PM - Mike Kelly: yup
Jun 17, 2015 12:18 PM - Mike Kelly: like 20 minutes from "denver"
Jun 17, 2015 12:18 PM - Stephen Capistron: Logan is also 20 minutes from Boston
Jun 17, 2015 12:19 PM - jbigler1986: ha. damn Denver airport is in BFE
Jun 17, 2015 12:20 PM - Mike Glass: its a secret gov safe house also
Jun 17, 2015 12:21 PM - Mike Kelly: the worst part about going to DIA is that in order to call it denver they had to annex the highway from denver to DIA, and denver has a highway speed limit of 55mph
Jun 17, 2015 12:21 PM - Mike Kelly: even though like half of 70 you can easily go 70mph on
Jun 17, 2015 12:22 PM - Stephen Capistron: think of it as your toll booth
Jun 17, 2015 12:22 PM - Mike Kelly: though for some reason the highway from 70 to DIA is 65
Jun 17, 2015 12:22 PM - Mike Kelly: which i guess is because it's no longer denver but DIA
Jun 17, 2015 12:22 PM - Mike Kelly: it's all very strange
Jun 17, 2015 12:23 PM - Stephen Capistron: I find this whole concept of land being able to be annexed to some other place strange

 

Jun 17, 2015 12:23 PM - jbigler1986: Area 51 alternate
Jun 17, 2015 12:24 PM - Mike Kelly: says the person who lives in a city that's 50% man made
Jun 17, 2015 12:24 PM - Mike Glass: the other 50% is Alien?
Jun 17, 2015 12:25 PM - Stephen Capistron:
Jun 17, 2015 12:25 PM - jbigler1986: the Rockies are a giant cover
Jun 17, 2015 12:25 PM - Stephen Capistron: We don't need that hilltop over there. Knock it down and move it over there where the river is
Jun 17, 2015 12:25 PM - Mike Kelly: precisely
Jun 17, 2015 12:27 PM - Stephen Capistron: I think places should form more organic / sensable shapes. I will use Greenville, NC as an example because I've been there a lot
Jun 17, 2015 12:27 PM - Stephen Capistron: https://www.google.com/maps/place/G...m2!3m1!1s0x89aec2aa39994541:0x32247cd12233502
Jun 17, 2015 12:27 PM - Stephen Capistron: There are so many islands that belong to the city and pockets that belong to the county only
Jun 17, 2015 12:29 PM - Mike Kelly: that is bizarre looking
Jun 17, 2015 12:29 PM - Mike Kelly: https://www.google.com/maps/place/D...2!3m1!1s0x876b80aa231f17cf:0x118ef4f8278a36d6
Jun 17, 2015 12:45 PM - Mike Kelly: i wonder if i can get by just hiding in my office
Jun 17, 2015 12:46 PM - Stephen Capistron: I wonder if this thing even works? http://www.amazon.com/Rova3D-5DEVPK...CA8Q/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8&m=A3CU2LEQHEDZM7
Jun 17, 2015 12:47 PM - Mike Kelly: good luck leveling those nozzles
Jun 17, 2015 12:48 PM - Stephen Capistron: I feel like they went the disposable shaver route a little too quickly
Jun 17, 2015 12:48 PM - Stephen Capistron: In a week they will have a 10 nozzle printer
Jun 17, 2015 12:48 PM - Mike Kelly: also makes me laugh that's called the rova3D
Jun 17, 2015 12:48 PM - Stephen Capistron: That thing comes with feeler gauges
Jun 17, 2015 12:49 PM - Mike Kelly: for 5k it better come gold plated
Jun 17, 2015 12:50 PM - Mike Glass: Most people cant deal with two nozzles, that would be a nightmare.
Jun 17, 2015 12:52 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah seriously
Jun 17, 2015 12:52 PM - Mike Kelly: even e3d admits that the worst part of the kraken is leveling the 4 nozzles
Jun 17, 2015 12:52 PM - Mike Kelly: especially on a bed with Y moving, omg
Jun 17, 2015 12:54 PM - Stephen Capistron: i just find its existence to be funny and thought you'd get a laugh
Jun 17, 2015 12:54 PM - Mike Glass: I still added it to my wish list..lol
Jun 17, 2015 12:54 PM - Mike Kelly: yup, when i first saw it i compared it to a go-kart
Jun 17, 2015 12:59 PM - Mike Glass: http://www.amazon.com/XYZprinting-V...52&sr=8-3&keywords=3d+printer#customerReviews This one might work for car?
Jun 17, 2015 1:13 PM - Mike Kelly: looks like a giant pile of crap
Jun 17, 2015 1:19 PM - daniel871: You know what would be a cool nozzle design? If it was like the cam-and-groove style pipe connections for hot fluids, but with a nozzle on the exit end instead of a hose barb.
Jun 17, 2015 1:19 PM - daniel871: Probably be too expensive to manufacture though.
Jun 17, 2015 1:19 PM - Mike Kelly: https://makeprintable.com/ this is cool
Jun 17, 2015 1:20 PM - daniel871: Yeah, signed up for that when the FB 3d printer hobby group kept spamming me about it.
Jun 17, 2015 1:20 PM - daniel871: Haven't gotten the login details yet though.
Jun 17, 2015 1:20 PM - daniel871: Just a boilerplate "thanks for your interest, don't call us we'll call you" email.
Jun 17, 2015 1:21 PM - toy: coming up on print 150 for my classes...
Jun 17, 2015 1:22 PM - toy: and were not even done with the second week lol
Jun 17, 2015 1:23 PM - toy: ill easily hit over 500 prints in 5 weeks
Jun 17, 2015 1:24 PM - daniel871: Better keep those rails lubed up.
Jun 17, 2015 1:25 PM - toy: about 18-20 hours of printing per day
Jun 17, 2015 1:26 PM - toy: but this time around im teaching the kids how to generate the g-code and check thier models
Jun 17, 2015 1:30 PM - toy: and the girls are kicking the boys butts in everything...
Jun 17, 2015 1:33 PM - Mike Glass: wow you might catch up to JB
Jun 17, 2015 1:37 PM - toy: i have to be getting close to 1000 lifetime prints
Jun 17, 2015 1:40 PM - toy: what i really need is 15 printers
Jun 17, 2015 1:43 PM - Mike Kelly: hiding in the office is going pretty well
Jun 17, 2015 1:44 PM - toy: i prefer the ninja balls, mk lol
Jun 17, 2015 1:45 PM - toy: throw ball on ground, wait for smoke to clear, im gone, no where to be found
Jun 17, 2015 1:45 PM - Mike Kelly: 15 printrbot plays
Jun 17, 2015 1:46 PM - Mike Kelly: i'm too introverted to deal well with schmoozing with clients
Jun 17, 2015 1:47 PM - toy: 15 printrbot plays would diff work, i think next year i will focus more on 3d scanning
Jun 17, 2015 1:47 PM - toy: this year we got the students 14 new touchscreen laptops
Jun 17, 2015 1:48 PM - toy: donated by microsoft
Jun 17, 2015 1:49 PM - JimBlue: Got out to my shed, only 99 degrees F. The air conditioner didn't make much difference. M119 all 3 switches are open.
Jun 17, 2015 1:50 PM - JimBlue: I put a photo of the results, turned the x-axis switches around and reseated them.
Jun 17, 2015 1:50 PM - JimBlue: It is in the troubleshotting thread on leveling.
Jun 17, 2015 1:50 PM - JimBlue: troubleshooting
Jun 17, 2015 1:52 PM - toy: i havent had to touch/level my robo in over 6 months... it just prints perfect everytime now
Jun 17, 2015 1:53 PM - JimBlue: Probably once I get it settled in, mine will do that to.
Jun 17, 2015 1:53 PM - daniel871: I've not had to re-level mine since doing the paper test a month or so ago, either.
Jun 17, 2015 1:53 PM - daniel871: Or maybe the bulletbox is responsible.
Jun 17, 2015 1:55 PM - toy: ill take a trammed up machine over autolevel anyday
Jun 17, 2015 1:55 PM - JimBlue: Should doing the leveling in the faq fix my problem ? If so, I'll get back out there on Thursday or Saturday and work on it some more.
Jun 17, 2015 2:21 PM - Sims Reaper: Jim, I think it would be worth it to do the levelling as detailed in the FAQ. If it doesn't fix the issue it may lead you closer at least
Jun 17, 2015 2:22 PM - Simonpackman1: for some reason my matter control no longer has the leveling feature in configuration anymore
Jun 17, 2015 2:24 PM - Simonpackman1: also my z is way off
Jun 17, 2015 2:25 PM - Simonpackman1: it works fine then just before printing it raises 20 mm
Jun 17, 2015 2:33 PM - Sims Reaper: Simon, Does the Robo auto level correctly?
Jun 17, 2015 2:36 PM - jbigler1986: Back
Jun 17, 2015 2:36 PM - Simonpackman1: no
Jun 17, 2015 2:37 PM - jbigler1986: Simon check you z axis switches
Jun 17, 2015 2:37 PM - Simonpackman1: it begins printing 20mm above the surface
Jun 17, 2015 2:37 PM - jbigler1986: Is the x carriage seated properly on the switches
Jun 17, 2015 2:37 PM - jbigler1986: Can you post a picture of your switches
Jun 17, 2015 2:39 PM - Mike Glass: Robo quit shipping them with switches..lol
Jun 17, 2015 2:39 PM - Mike Glass: that would be just grand
Jun 17, 2015 2:39 PM - Simonpackman1: i repositioned them
Jun 17, 2015 2:39 PM - jbigler1986: Lol. Dont say that. Might confuse people
Jun 17, 2015 2:39 PM - Simonpackman1: one was slightly higher than the other
Jun 17, 2015 2:39 PM - Simonpackman1: I also checked the connections
Jun 17, 2015 2:40 PM - Simonpackman1: im going to run a quick test print
Jun 17, 2015 2:40 PM - jbigler1986: Do the paper level now
Jun 17, 2015 2:40 PM - Mike Glass: not toilet paper
Jun 17, 2015 2:40 PM - Simonpackman1: i can't
Jun 17, 2015 2:41 PM - Simonpackman1: there is no option in matter control for some reason
Jun 17, 2015 2:41 PM - Simonpackman1: but it appears to be fixed!
Jun 17, 2015 2:41 PM - Mike Glass: there is the problem, MC
Jun 17, 2015 2:41 PM - Simonpackman1: what do you use?
Jun 17, 2015 2:42 PM - Mike Glass: anything but MC, Cura - Repetier- Simplify 3d
Jun 17, 2015 2:43 PM - Mike Glass: Cura to start, then if you really want the best results Simplify 3d is simply the best
Jun 17, 2015 2:43 PM - Simonpackman1: i want simplify3d but its too expensive im really just amateur Engineering student who wants to design and print with cad
Jun 17, 2015 2:43 PM - Simonpackman1: alright
Jun 17, 2015 2:43 PM - Mike Glass: $149, thats pretty fair
Jun 17, 2015 2:43 PM - Simonpackman1: is there a leveling configuration in Cura
Jun 17, 2015 2:43 PM - Simonpackman1: it is fair
Jun 17, 2015 2:43 PM - Simonpackman1: but i already burned a pretty deep hole just on the robo alone
Jun 17, 2015 2:44 PM - Mike Glass: look at the setting up cura in the forum
Jun 17, 2015 2:44 PM - Simonpackman1: ok cool
Jun 17, 2015 2:44 PM - Simonpackman1: thanks
Jun 17, 2015 2:44 PM - Simonpackman1: ill probably move on to that

 

Jun 17, 2015 2:44 PM - Mike Glass: I will save you pain for sure, we all went through it
Jun 17, 2015 2:45 PM - toy: mg whats the s3d pw?
Jun 17, 2015 2:45 PM - Mike Glass: http://community.robo3d.com/index.php?threads/how-to-cura-setup.4169/
Jun 17, 2015 2:45 PM - Mike Glass: pw?
Jun 17, 2015 2:46 PM - toy: for the zip
Jun 17, 2015 2:46 PM - toy: i had it but lost it
Jun 17, 2015 2:46 PM - daniel871: What zip?
Jun 17, 2015 2:46 PM - daniel871: Is there some secret starter factory I dont know about?
Jun 17, 2015 2:47 PM - toy: someone gave me a s3d torrent for eval but i forgot the pw
Jun 17, 2015 2:47 PM - daniel871: Did you try "guest"?
Jun 17, 2015 2:47 PM - Mike Glass: its probably in the the dl
Jun 17, 2015 2:49 PM - daniel871: Most torrentz have a readme file in them to get started.
Jun 17, 2015 2:50 PM - daniel871: What would be a good end of program retraction distance for the Volcano?
Jun 17, 2015 2:51 PM - daniel871: 3mm?
Jun 17, 2015 2:57 PM - jbigler1986: 2 is fine
Jun 17, 2015 2:58 PM - jbigler1986: 3 works too
Jun 17, 2015 3:03 PM - Stephen Capistron:
Jun 17, 2015 3:03 PM - Stephen Capistron: Version 3, and final unless I screw up finishing it
Jun 17, 2015 3:04 PM - daniel871: What material?
Jun 17, 2015 3:04 PM - Stephen Capistron: Concrete
Jun 17, 2015 3:04 PM - Stephen Capistron: Dyed brown
Jun 17, 2015 3:06 PM - Stephen Capistron: If I have to do this sort of thing I'll probably get some of the wax filament or make a proper silicone mold
Jun 17, 2015 3:13 PM - Mike Glass: 3d print it and put magnents on the bottom
Jun 17, 2015 3:15 PM - toy: lol the whole zip is encrypted
Jun 17, 2015 3:23 PM - jbigler1986: MG do you still have the s3d zip
Jun 17, 2015 3:25 PM - jbigler1986: sent you a PM toy
Jun 17, 2015 3:27 PM - jbigler1986: about to try 120mm/s. what should i print? nothing huge
Jun 17, 2015 3:29 PM - daniel871: That lotus thing I linked earlier today.
Jun 17, 2015 3:30 PM - daniel871: Scale it so it wont be huge.
Jun 17, 2015 3:31 PM - jbigler1986: emmits gear it is. lol
Jun 17, 2015 3:31 PM - daniel871: Haha.
Jun 17, 2015 3:32 PM - daniel871: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:824620
Jun 17, 2015 3:33 PM - jbigler1986: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/jbigler1986
Jun 17, 2015 3:35 PM - Printed Solid: man, every time I see that ninja flex thread it makes me sad. It was started by Melody Bliss, one of our early forum regulars. She passed away.
Jun 17, 2015 3:38 PM - jbigler1986: Woops. Forgot to lower offset. Oh well
Jun 17, 2015 3:38 PM - jbigler1986: What. That sucks. Was she ill?
Jun 17, 2015 3:45 PM - Printed Solid: yeah.
Jun 17, 2015 3:45 PM - Printed Solid: she had some health issues. I don't know if any of us knew they were that bad.
Jun 17, 2015 3:47 PM - toy: ugh i hate how just about every program tries to secretly communicate over the interwebs. thank goodness for zone alarm
Jun 17, 2015 3:48 PM - jbigler1986: Any takers on whether or not this gear actually works or not
Jun 17, 2015 3:54 PM - toy: yo printed.... the kids love all the diff colors...thx dude
Jun 17, 2015 3:56 PM - Printed Solid: we did an event for kids this weekend.
Jun 17, 2015 3:58 PM - Printed Solid: https://twitter.com/PrintedSolid/status/610141989452021762
Jun 17, 2015 3:58 PM - Printed Solid: design in morphi, then print on site.
Jun 17, 2015 3:58 PM - Printed Solid: 60+ designs printed over the day on 7 different printers. 4 ipads.
Jun 17, 2015 3:59 PM - Printed Solid: Nobody had time to take pics!
Jun 17, 2015 4:00 PM - Printed Solid: here's some of their designs: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153010941619150&set=gm.495994560565140&type=1
Jun 17, 2015 4:22 PM - Mike Kelly: ended up taking the toll road at $2.75 instead of trying to take 70 and spending an extra half hour in traffic
Jun 17, 2015 4:25 PM - Stephen Capistron: I opt for toll-free 8 out of 7 times. My wife hates it
Jun 17, 2015 4:26 PM - Mike Kelly: i've never taken it before because it shoots me pretty far north
Jun 17, 2015 4:26 PM - Mike Kelly: but the I-70 corridor during rush hour is some of the worst traffic in the country
Jun 17, 2015 4:45 PM - Bill Monroe: no traffic jams in the air
Jun 17, 2015 4:46 PM - Printed Solid: haha, when I was a kid, I told me parents that I was going to just get a helicopter instead of a car. I sure had the right idea.
Jun 17, 2015 4:46 PM - Bill Monroe: ooo you'd spend less money if you just hired a full time limo
Jun 17, 2015 4:47 PM - Mike Kelly: If only they'd let me land my plane car in my neighborhood
Jun 17, 2015 4:47 PM - Bill Monroe: there will never be a viable flying car
Jun 17, 2015 4:48 PM - Printed Solid: shush your tongue you?
Jun 17, 2015 4:48 PM - Printed Solid: ! not ?
Jun 17, 2015 4:48 PM - Bill Monroe: sorry.. some things are just the way it is
Jun 17, 2015 4:48 PM - Printed Solid: never a flying car. seems like we only get the crappy scifi stuff of government spying on everything and none of the cool stuff
Jun 17, 2015 4:49 PM - Bill Monroe: I actually knew one of the first guys to really make an attempt, and the only guy to design one that sold muliple copies
Jun 17, 2015 4:49 PM - Bill Monroe: google Waldo Waterman
Jun 17, 2015 4:50 PM - Bill Monroe: one of the coolest plane-guys names ever
Jun 17, 2015 4:51 PM - Bill Monroe: people have tried grafting pintos and cessnas together.. which actually worked
Jun 17, 2015 4:52 PM - Bill Monroe: they got that clown with the parafoil attached to a dunebuggy
Jun 17, 2015 4:52 PM - Bill Monroe: the terrajunkia
Jun 17, 2015 4:53 PM - Bill Monroe: that eastern-bloc attempt really looked sexy, but recently crashed
Jun 17, 2015 4:56 PM - Bill Monroe: honestly, next time you're driving down the highway.. look around.. would you want those guys flying over you?
Jun 17, 2015 5:03 PM - Bill Monroe: I need a solder sucker
Jun 17, 2015 5:05 PM - Printed Solid: i guess not
Jun 17, 2015 5:22 PM - jbigler1986: Booooo. Didnt work. Looks good though.
Jun 17, 2015 5:24 PM - Stephen Capistron: Even if you forcE it
Jun 17, 2015 5:24 PM - Stephen Capistron: Drop it
Jun 17, 2015 5:24 PM - Stephen Capistron: Kick it
Jun 17, 2015 5:25 PM - jbigler1986: i tried with pliers. dropping it might have worked
Jun 17, 2015 5:25 PM - Stephen Capistron: Stick a hex key in there and give it a twist
Jun 17, 2015 5:26 PM - Stephen Capistron: 1/4 hex key or a long Philips bit in a drill
Jun 17, 2015 5:26 PM - toy: 3d print a light car body and add some wings
Jun 17, 2015 5:27 PM - Stephen Capistron: Dilithium crystals for power?
Jun 17, 2015 5:28 PM - toy: too unstable for flight
Jun 17, 2015 5:28 PM - jbigler1986: nope. just stripped
Jun 17, 2015 5:30 PM - jbigler1986: s3d doesn't like that lotus
Jun 17, 2015 5:30 PM - toy: or try this.... http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread517987/pg1
Jun 17, 2015 5:36 PM - Jsn9955: Anyone know where I can download old firmware for the R1?
Jun 17, 2015 5:39 PM - jbigler1986: reason?
Jun 17, 2015 5:42 PM - Jsn9955: Somehow I screwed up my printed and when it tries to do a G29 bed probe, it goes Z up instead of down, so the Z0 just keeps going higher and higher... I'm hoping if I reflash my current firmware it will fix the problem... Unless there is an easier fix.
Jun 17, 2015 5:44 PM - Bill Monroe: check to make sure both side of the Z axis is sitting on the switched
Jun 17, 2015 5:44 PM - Bill Monroe: switches
Jun 17, 2015 5:47 PM - Jsn9955: You rick Bill, that was the problem! Never even noticed the switch was turned sideways
Jun 17, 2015 5:48 PM - Jsn9955: *You rock
Jun 17, 2015 5:48 PM - jbigler1986: very common problem. we see it all of the time
Jun 17, 2015 5:53 PM - Jsn9955: First time it's happened to me... I'll be sure to keep an eye out for it next time.
Jun 17, 2015 5:53 PM - jbigler1986: well now you know
Jun 17, 2015 5:56 PM - Bill Monroe: it's happened to all of us
Jun 17, 2015 5:57 PM - Bill Monroe: probably need to paper level now too
Jun 17, 2015 6:00 PM - jbigler1986: i would agree with that
Jun 17, 2015 6:05 PM - Jsn9955: I was under the imression that the R1 was auto leveling? Isn't that what the g29 is for?
Jun 17, 2015 6:06 PM - jbigler1986: yes
Jun 17, 2015 6:10 PM - Jsn9955: Is the paper level just to ensure the Z rods are "close" and one is not more unscrewed than the other and vise versa?
Jun 17, 2015 6:10 PM - JimBlue: Yeah, I need to paper level most likely.

 

Jun 17, 2015 6:14 PM - jbigler1986: yeah pretty much. it's to level it
Jun 17, 2015 6:17 PM - JimBlue: I'll check into it tomorrow. Have you seen the pictures I posted ? The calibration box looks more like a bowl with a flat bottom.
Jun 17, 2015 6:21 PM - daniel871: Yeah, I ran the lotus thru netfabb thinking it would be a neat glow in the dark piece but no dice.
Jun 17, 2015 6:21 PM - jbigler1986: i have not
Jun 17, 2015 6:22 PM - daniel871: Reprinting squid attack tonight while looking for a cool thing to print in glow in the dark filament.
Jun 17, 2015 6:22 PM - JimBlue: The calibration box I did around 2 weeks ago looks fine. I just have to figure out hat changed since then.
Jun 17, 2015 6:22 PM - JimBlue: what not hat
Jun 17, 2015 6:23 PM - JimBlue: for D&d fans, there is a killer gazebo on thiniverse.
Jun 17, 2015 6:23 PM - jbigler1986: i knew what you meant
Jun 17, 2015 6:23 PM - JimBlue: thingiverse.
Jun 17, 2015 6:23 PM - JimBlue: gee... darn keyboard.
Jun 17, 2015 6:24 PM - daniel871: Got a link?
Jun 17, 2015 6:24 PM - JimBlue: I have to shuttle the relative's kids tomorrow. Need to get some sleep. Later. And I'll try the sheet of paper thing.
Jun 17, 2015 6:24 PM - JimBlue: let me check.
Jun 17, 2015 6:25 PM - JimBlue: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:624569
Jun 17, 2015 6:27 PM - Sims Reaper: Jim, just looked at that picture, and on the right your skirt looks decent, but then it looks like your very high on the square side. Definitely do a paper leveling\
Jun 17, 2015 6:27 PM - Sims Reaper: There may be other issues also, but your cube layers were definitely very "wobbly"
Jun 17, 2015 6:28 PM - JimBlue: That skirt is several layers that are supposed to be flat... The 3 barrels look like an odd shaped canoe.
Jun 17, 2015 6:28 PM - JimBlue: Could be the tension on the y-axis is low.
Jun 17, 2015 6:28 PM - Sims Reaper: I though about that too
Jun 17, 2015 6:29 PM - Sims Reaper: But be careful when you tighten the tension screws, dont break them,
Jun 17, 2015 6:30 PM - JimBlue: Yeah, one of my plastic pieces holding the rubber strip came broke. Robo replaced it.
Jun 17, 2015 6:31 PM - daniel871: Ok. Printinz plate officially rules for PLA printing. That Pieta face I printed today came right off when I grabbed it after getting home from work.
Jun 17, 2015 6:31 PM - Sims Reaper: I haven't had my printer very long, so I can really only help with the issues I've experienced myself, but I will try.
Jun 17, 2015 6:32 PM - JimBlue: Mine is new as well.
Jun 17, 2015 6:33 PM - Jsn9955: I decided to print a calibration cube before paper leveling. I've had mine since Xmas, it's always been spot on, until I tried to do something "over my head".
Jun 17, 2015 6:37 PM - JimBlue: going, going, gone.
Jun 17, 2015 6:38 PM - Sims Reaper: Hey dan, have you tried the printinz plate with ABS?
Jun 17, 2015 6:42 PM - daniel871: Not yet. Figured I'd try it Friday evening when I dont have to work the next day.
Jun 17, 2015 6:43 PM - daniel871: Need to find a good thing to print that is reasonable to attempt in ABS on a first try.
Jun 17, 2015 6:43 PM - daniel871: Other than a generic cube.
Jun 17, 2015 6:43 PM - Sims Reaper: Go Big
Jun 17, 2015 6:43 PM - daniel871: There is a 200mm cube on thingiverse, but that might be too big.
Jun 17, 2015 6:44 PM - Sims Reaper: Too Big
Jun 17, 2015 6:44 PM - daniel871: When searching ABS
Jun 17, 2015 6:45 PM - Sims Reaper: Na, I just am curious. I know the website says it cant solve all the ABS issues alone, but if it sticks well, and doesnt warp itself when clamped, then I was wondering if an enclosure and heat lamp would take care of the rest
Jun 17, 2015 6:46 PM - daniel871: Already have the enclosure. So I'm most of the way there.
Jun 17, 2015 6:46 PM - Sims Reaper: I just printed out a jaw piece to an Ironman helmet in ABS, and there was still a tiny bit of warping, but no delamination. The piece looks awesome actually after i sanded and brushed it with thick abs juice
Jun 17, 2015 6:47 PM - Sims Reaper: But I dont think I get enough adhesion with just abs juice on glass. I have some buildtak, but always good to have a backup
Jun 17, 2015 6:55 PM - jbigler1986: Abs is a pain on the robo
Jun 17, 2015 6:55 PM - jbigler1986: Really needs an enclosure
Jun 17, 2015 6:56 PM - Jsn9955: Looks like my calibration cube is within .075 mm on the X from side to side on a 20x20x20mm cube... That seems ok, but I wonder how far off it would be on a big print...
Jun 17, 2015 6:56 PM - Sims Reaper: Yes, an enclosure helped immensely. And the heat lamp helps a little, may need a 150w bulb to help more
Jun 17, 2015 6:57 PM - Sims Reaper: I need to try some XT one day. Well, time to head home. TTYL
Jun 17, 2015 6:58 PM - jbigler1986: See ya
Jun 17, 2015 7:04 PM - Mike Glass: Abs is not a pain, Xt is a pain
Jun 17, 2015 7:05 PM - Jsn9955: If it math is even close on a 152.4mm wide print, I would be off by 0.5715mm from side to side based on the cal cube. Guess I should do a paper level.
Jun 17, 2015 7:06 PM - Mike Glass: Your auto compensate should take care of that
Jun 17, 2015 7:07 PM - Mike Glass: But manual level is always good, I havent messed with mine for about 3 months now, still holding true, its when you take them apart and mess with parts that through them off.
Jun 17, 2015 7:07 PM - Mike Glass: JB what ya breaking tonight
Jun 17, 2015 7:08 PM - Jsn9955: I had an unfortunately Z height issue a couple days ago, so it seems slightly off now.
Jun 17, 2015 7:08 PM - Bill Monroe: paper level
Jun 17, 2015 7:09 PM - Mike Glass: Bill
Jun 17, 2015 7:09 PM - Bill Monroe: Mike
Jun 17, 2015 7:09 PM - Mike Glass: whud up
Jun 17, 2015 7:09 PM - jbigler1986: Not breaking anything. Just installed the latest edtruder i printed last night.
Jun 17, 2015 7:09 PM - Bill Monroe: my heart is up.. I'm flying with joy
Jun 17, 2015 7:10 PM - Mike Glass: you must be retired then?
Jun 17, 2015 7:10 PM - Bill Monroe: not yet.. A labview compiler for arduino was released...
Jun 17, 2015 7:10 PM - Bill Monroe: ive been giddy at work all day
Jun 17, 2015 7:11 PM - Bill Monroe: then, I come home and find that 2.0 has one of my most favorite things
Jun 17, 2015 7:11 PM - Bill Monroe: bikini tan lines
Jun 17, 2015 7:13 PM - Bill Monroe: today has been gud
Jun 17, 2015 7:13 PM - mayhem: hey guys quick question. my filament keeps jamming the extruder head, when i open up the slot where you put the filament in i can see a bunch of loose filament inside, how do i open this up to clean it?
Jun 17, 2015 7:13 PM - Bill Monroe: all wound up?
Jun 17, 2015 7:14 PM - Bill Monroe: need more input
Jun 17, 2015 7:14 PM - mayhem: i guess my question is, how do i clean the feeding wheel inside the head?
Jun 17, 2015 7:14 PM - mayhem: do i just take the 2 screws with the springs off?
Jun 17, 2015 7:15 PM - Bill Monroe: oooooo take a tiny screwdriver or an icepick and push them out sideways
Jun 17, 2015 7:15 PM - Bill Monroe: ya, take off the sprung screws and allow the swingy thing to fall back
Jun 17, 2015 7:15 PM - Bill Monroe: I like to blow it out with canned air too
Jun 17, 2015 7:15 PM - mayhem: oh, is that the only way? because filament keeps coming out on the side of the extruder head
Jun 17, 2015 7:16 PM - Bill Monroe: that happens when you either miss the hole, or it backs up like speghetti
Jun 17, 2015 7:16 PM - Bill Monroe: if you have a jam, all those things can happen and just gets worse till you stop it.
Jun 17, 2015 7:17 PM - Bill Monroe: I cant remember the last time I had a jam
Jun 17, 2015 7:23 PM - mayhem: thank you very much
Jun 17, 2015 7:24 PM - Bill Monroe: we've all been through it
Jun 17, 2015 7:25 PM - jbigler1986: Never
Jun 17, 2015 7:26 PM - jbigler1986: Well this thing is awesome. What can i break next
Jun 17, 2015 7:29 PM - Bill Monroe: replace the glass bed with transparent aluminum
Jun 17, 2015 7:30 PM - jbigler1986: Probably expensive as hell
Jun 17, 2015 7:32 PM - jbigler1986: Plus the heating pad will block you from seeing through
Jun 17, 2015 7:32 PM - Bill Monroe: i bought some neroceram for the ABS machine
Jun 17, 2015 7:32 PM - Mike Glass: infared heat
Jun 17, 2015 7:36 PM - jbigler1986: $40 for a 9x10 piece. Not bad
Jun 17, 2015 7:39 PM - Bill Monroe: i got 14 X 14
Jun 17, 2015 7:39 PM - Bill Monroe: i think it was 180, but I have the edges ground too
Jun 17, 2015 7:44 PM - Montravont: Hello fellow humans
Jun 17, 2015 7:44 PM - Montravont: I say hello this way to emphasize that I am a human... and definitely not a robot of any kind
Jun 17, 2015 7:48 PM - Bill Monroe: that's exactly what a robot would say that want to deceive humans
Jun 17, 2015 7:49 PM - Bill Monroe: an eeeeevil robot
Jun 17, 2015 7:56 PM - Montravont: No, because as a robot, I'm not allowed to lie
Jun 17, 2015 7:56 PM - Montravont: DAMNIT!
Jun 17, 2015 7:59 PM - Bill Monroe: time for me to consume mass quantities

 

Jun 18, 2015 3:02 AM - daniel871: Ugh. The Y-axis on the other end broke while printing last night. Damnit.
Jun 18, 2015 3:02 AM - daniel871: The clip.
Jun 18, 2015 3:21 AM - jbigler1986: man what are you doing to ur printer
Jun 18, 2015 3:28 AM - daniel871: I think the original clips were already weak or something.
Jun 18, 2015 3:28 AM - daniel871: Should have replaced it when I printed the other one.
Jun 18, 2015 3:29 AM - daniel871: (Will do when I get home from work)
Jun 18, 2015 3:30 AM - daniel871: Not too crazy about the design anyway. The part that the screw/nut puts pressure on looks thin as hell to me for plastic.
Jun 18, 2015 3:54 AM - jbigler1986: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/jbigler1986
Jun 18, 2015 3:54 AM - jbigler1986: 100mm/s on this print
Jun 18, 2015 4:02 AM - jbigler1986: Did it break during a print
Jun 18, 2015 4:23 AM - daniel871: Yeah. Woke up this morning to see a big bird's nest of filament while the head was moving back and forth printing and the bed sitting in place.
Jun 18, 2015 4:24 AM - daniel871: Ought to be some sensors that would detect when something like that happens, rather than just the filament tracker thing.
Jun 18, 2015 4:25 AM - Stephen Capistron: If you have any XT, PET(x), or nylone print the replacement out of them
Jun 18, 2015 4:26 AM - Stephen Capistron: Those tend to be some of the tougher materials
Jun 18, 2015 4:28 AM - daniel871: Yeah, I'm going to use PET+ for the next set.
Jun 18, 2015 4:29 AM - daniel871: Thingiverse has a "Prepare" button instead of a download button this morning.
Jun 18, 2015 4:29 AM - daniel871: Odd.
Jun 18, 2015 4:31 AM - daniel871: Ah, google results put "makerware.thingiverse.com" in the URL rather than the "www.thingiverse.com", that prefix changes the website.
Jun 18, 2015 4:32 AM - daniel871: If it wouldn't be a bitch/expensive to do, I'd make a mold and have metal clips poured.
Jun 18, 2015 4:33 AM - daniel871: And just have a hole tapped for the screw instead of that gap for the nut that is there.
Jun 18, 2015 4:33 AM - Stephen Capistron: Wouldn't bad as bad as you think. Just do a lost wax casting
Jun 18, 2015 4:34 AM - Stephen Capistron: melting the aluminum is the only hard part
Jun 18, 2015 4:35 AM - daniel871: The difficulty would be in me never having made one myself.
Jun 18, 2015 4:36 AM - daniel871: Would have to look into how to do it.
Jun 18, 2015 4:37 AM - daniel871: Oh, there's an instructable for that.
Jun 18, 2015 4:37 AM - daniel871: http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-a-mold-for-lost-wax-casting/
Jun 18, 2015 4:37 AM - Stephen Capistron: It is fairly straigtht forward. Print wax part > cast plaster or concrete around part > melt wax out > pour in liquid metal > smash mold
Jun 18, 2015 4:38 AM - Stephen Capistron: The hard part would be getting the aluminum to melt, but there are some crazy things on you tube about making a small arc foundry
Jun 18, 2015 4:38 AM - daniel871: There's a wax printing filament?
Jun 18, 2015 4:39 AM - Stephen Capistron: http://www.makergeeks.com/wax3dfilament.html
Jun 18, 2015 4:39 AM - Stephen Capistron: I've never used it
Jun 18, 2015 4:40 AM - daniel871: Ah, Moldlay, of course.
Jun 18, 2015 4:42 AM - daniel871: Better get some if you want to use it, regular $80 now $40.
Jun 18, 2015 4:43 AM - daniel871: Holy crap that's expensive stuff for 250g.
Jun 18, 2015 4:44 AM - Stephen Capistron: Probably better off printing out of ninjaflex and casting around that
Jun 18, 2015 4:46 AM - daniel871: A local 3Dhubs hub will do it for me for 2 of them for $50. A roll of Ninjaflex would be that much by itself.
Jun 18, 2015 4:46 AM - daniel871: (don't currently have any ninjaflex)
Jun 18, 2015 4:46 AM - jbigler1986: on the sensor note. a lot of stuff is limited by marlin
Jun 18, 2015 4:46 AM - daniel871: That's finished aluminum clips.
Jun 18, 2015 4:49 AM - Bill Monroe: mornin
Jun 18, 2015 4:50 AM - Stephen Capistron: It wouldn't be too hard to make a system that rides next to the arduino that simply cuts power to it.
Jun 18, 2015 4:50 AM - Stephen Capistron: not the most elegant solution though.
Jun 18, 2015 4:50 AM - Bill Monroe: never, ever, ever, use concrete as an investment
Jun 18, 2015 4:50 AM - jbigler1986: Bill where is my meatloaf?
Jun 18, 2015 4:51 AM - Bill Monroe: I ate it
Jun 18, 2015 4:51 AM - daniel871: How's that heartburn treatin' ya?
Jun 18, 2015 4:51 AM - Bill Monroe: I'll let you know if I ever get any
Jun 18, 2015 4:52 AM - jbigler1986: when i come to ur neck of the woods again you better hook me up
Jun 18, 2015 4:53 AM - Bill Monroe: no problem, 2.0 can seriously cook
Jun 18, 2015 4:53 AM - Bill Monroe: but dont come now.. it's been in excess of 100 every day for awhile
Jun 18, 2015 4:54 AM - jbigler1986: I don't have any plans
Jun 18, 2015 4:54 AM - Bill Monroe: ok, just keep it in mind
Jun 18, 2015 4:54 AM - Bill Monroe: Joshua Tree takes some getting used to, but it's worth it
Jun 18, 2015 4:56 AM - Bill Monroe: hot and dry right now.. but we get snow in the winter
Jun 18, 2015 4:57 AM - jbigler1986: sounds kinda like here here. can get all 4 seasons in 1 day
Jun 18, 2015 4:57 AM - Bill Monroe: ya, that's wild
Jun 18, 2015 4:58 AM - jbigler1986: been humid as hell here. sucks
Jun 18, 2015 4:58 AM - jbigler1986: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/jbigler1986
Jun 18, 2015 4:59 AM - Bill Monroe: ya, I looked at a place in Texas last year, 2.0 stepped out of the airport building and gave me a look that told me it wasnt going to happen
Jun 18, 2015 5:00 AM - Bill Monroe: even the humidty was sweating
Jun 18, 2015 5:01 AM - jbigler1986: yeah humidity really sucks. can almost drink the air
Jun 18, 2015 5:02 AM - Bill Monroe: this is Joshua Tree a few months ago:
Jun 18, 2015 5:02 AM - Bill Monroe: I didnt mind it, but I can tolerate almost any kind of weather
Jun 18, 2015 5:02 AM - daniel871: Awful lot of vibration in the feed there, jb. How fast you going?
Jun 18, 2015 5:03 AM - daniel871: When the bed was under the camera the camera it was blurring and shaking.
Jun 18, 2015 5:04 AM - daniel871: Not sure why I typed that twice.
Jun 18, 2015 5:05 AM - Bill Monroe: I need a solder sucker
Jun 18, 2015 5:08 AM - jbigler1986: u still haven't gotten one
Jun 18, 2015 5:08 AM - jbigler1986: 100mm/s
Jun 18, 2015 5:08 AM - jbigler1986: yeah i didn't make sure it was sturdy this morning
Jun 18, 2015 5:09 AM - Bill Monroe: no, cant find one I like
Jun 18, 2015 5:10 AM - Bill Monroe: I had a pace unit years ago, apparently they arent made anymore
Jun 18, 2015 5:11 AM - Bill Monroe: maybe I'll just take these boards into work and let the interns work on them
Jun 18, 2015 5:12 AM - jbigler1986: need a plug in one or just one of the cheap vacuum ones
Jun 18, 2015 5:12 AM - JeffTheMess: Good morning robonauts
Jun 18, 2015 5:12 AM - Bill Monroe: whatever works
Jun 18, 2015 5:13 AM - jbigler1986: i have a cheapo like this that actually works really well
Jun 18, 2015 5:13 AM - jbigler1986:
Jun 18, 2015 5:14 AM - jbigler1986:
Jun 18, 2015 5:14 AM - Bill Monroe: I have one of those.. no joy
Jun 18, 2015 5:15 AM - jbigler1986: works good for small solder that is. large ones not so much
Jun 18, 2015 5:15 AM - Stephen Capistron: i don't want to be reading anything about snowy weather from a few months ago
Jun 18, 2015 5:15 AM - JeffTheMess: get wick
Jun 18, 2015 5:16 AM - Bill Monroe: wick hasnt worked either..
Jun 18, 2015 5:16 AM - Bill Monroe: i'm trying to remove an I2C adapter from an LCD
Jun 18, 2015 5:17 AM - jbigler1986: reflow machine and wick?
Jun 18, 2015 5:18 AM - JeffTheMess: how big is that solder joint?
Jun 18, 2015 5:18 AM - Bill Monroe: well, if I had a reflow machine I'd probably have the sucker already
Jun 18, 2015 5:19 AM - Bill Monroe: it's 16 pins at 2.54mm spacing
Jun 18, 2015 5:19 AM - Stephen Capistron: http://www.amazon.com/Aoyue-Digital...&qid=1434630015&sr=1-3&keywords=solder+sucker
Jun 18, 2015 5:22 AM - Bill Monroe: has decent reviewss
Jun 18, 2015 5:22 AM - JeffTheMess: you shouldn't have much problem removing those solder joints
Jun 18, 2015 5:23 AM - Bill Monroe: i can get solder off, just not enough to liberate the board
Jun 18, 2015 5:23 AM - JeffTheMess: oh the little boogers that stay behind
Jun 18, 2015 5:24 AM - jbigler1986: desoldering can be tricky
Jun 18, 2015 5:25 AM - Bill Monroe: i normally dont use I2C for LCD displays since the wire.h file for arduino mucks with timing but I'm told the labview compiler doesnt to that so, I want to try it
Jun 18, 2015 5:31 AM - jbigler1986: Bill have you tried dual e3d?
Jun 18, 2015 5:31 AM - Bill Monroe: why yes, yes I did
Jun 18, 2015 5:32 AM - Bill Monroe: tried the chitmera too
Jun 18, 2015 5:33 AM - jbigler1986: how did that work out