Shoutbox Archive

Jun 20, 2015 3:41 PM - jbigler1986: Well that drive gear it toast. Damnit. Lol
Jun 20, 2015 3:55 PM - donhuevo: shit
Jun 20, 2015 3:56 PM - donhuevo: didn't put it in the drill press?
Jun 20, 2015 3:59 PM - Mike Glass: Hey don, if I want to use oogoo for a mold and make it out of wood, what should I coat the wood with first?
Jun 20, 2015 4:01 PM - donhuevo: something that silicone would pull away from easily
Jun 20, 2015 4:01 PM - Mike Glass: laquer spray maybe?
Jun 20, 2015 4:02 PM - donhuevo: if you have some maybe try a bench test first. I know it came away clean from PLA but that doesn't do you any good. polyeurethane? acrylic?
Jun 20, 2015 4:03 PM - Mike Glass: guess I could also do it with the 3d printed part I have.
Jun 20, 2015 4:03 PM - Mike Glass: takes 1 hour to print and 4 hours to mill it..lol
Jun 20, 2015 4:05 PM - donhuevo: wow. I would have guessed it the other way around
Jun 20, 2015 4:06 PM - Mike Glass: I could of done it on my other machine and would of took 20 min, but this is on my printed cnc running repetier.
Jun 20, 2015 4:07 PM - Mike Glass: and a $40 spindle
Jun 20, 2015 4:08 PM - jbigler1986: It was in a driol press. Oh well. I will try one of these crappy drive gears i have since i have the geared stepper. It was stalling like crazy before
Jun 20, 2015 4:08 PM - Mike Glass: Should just get some laywood and print and stain.
Jun 20, 2015 4:20 PM - jbigler1986: Damnit. Dont have long enough m3 bolts to mount the stepper. Gonna use gregs reloaded
Jun 20, 2015 4:20 PM - jbigler1986: Until tomorrow
Jun 20, 2015 4:22 PM - donhuevo: damnit
Jun 20, 2015 4:27 PM - jbigler1986: Ikr
Jun 20, 2015 5:18 PM - jbigler1986: That moment when you solder 2 wires together and you realize you forgot to add shrink tube
Jun 20, 2015 6:03 PM - daniel871: Electrical tape.
Jun 20, 2015 6:11 PM - jbigler1986: I did. I gotta rewire when i go get a 4 pin molex and bolts tomorrow anyways
Jun 20, 2015 6:36 PM - daniel871: Well, ABS isn't warping *too* badly, but I'm going to have to insulate the enclure better or something, I think.
Jun 20, 2015 6:36 PM - daniel871: Enclosure
Jun 20, 2015 6:42 PM - Shank: anyone on that knows the firmware well?
Jun 20, 2015 7:15 PM - jbigler1986: What are you wanting
Jun 20, 2015 7:18 PM - Shank: running to steppers for extruders
Jun 20, 2015 7:19 PM - jbigler1986: Yeah dual idk about (yet)
Jun 20, 2015 7:21 PM - Shank: the firmware is so hard to find your way around
Jun 20, 2015 7:23 PM - Shank: there is so much extra stuff...it would be nice if robo went in and removed everything that wasnt for the robo
Jun 20, 2015 7:25 PM - jbigler1986: Just follow that part of one of the going dual guides for the robo
Jun 20, 2015 7:29 PM - Shank: i am
Jun 20, 2015 7:30 PM - jbigler1986: What issue are you having
Jun 20, 2015 7:33 PM - Shank: just figuring out what numbers go to what on the ramp
Jun 20, 2015 7:35 PM - Shank: nvm think i found the layout
Jun 20, 2015 8:18 PM - jbigler1986: What is everyone up to
Jun 20, 2015 8:39 PM - Mike Kelly: Cleaning and watching standup mostly

 

Jun 20, 2015 9:02 PM - jbigler1986: 120mm/s right now. Hauling ass
Jun 20, 2015 9:02 PM - jbigler1986: Need to adjust perimeters. They are to fast
Jun 20, 2015 9:04 PM - jbigler1986: Had a jam that i could not figure out. Ended up being that my heat break/heat sink was not tight. Woops
Jun 20, 2015 9:05 PM - jbigler1986: Going ro pick up those parts tomorrow. Gotta get a few bolts to mount this stepper. Dont have any long enough
Jun 20, 2015 9:06 PM - Mike Kelly: ah for sure
Jun 20, 2015 9:06 PM - Mike Kelly: i'm printing a part for the robostein on my 1.6 in abs
Jun 20, 2015 9:06 PM - Mike Kelly: first one came out well but i forgot to enable support so it's useless
Jun 20, 2015 9:07 PM - jbigler1986: Let me getthe stream up
Jun 20, 2015 9:08 PM - jbigler1986: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/jbigler1986
Jun 20, 2015 9:09 PM - jbigler1986: quick enough?
Jun 20, 2015 9:12 PM - Mike Kelly: lookin good
Jun 20, 2015 9:12 PM - jbigler1986: not to bad. need to run a bunch of deprime tests
Jun 20, 2015 9:12 PM - jbigler1986: perimeters are way to fast
Jun 20, 2015 9:13 PM - jbigler1986: this part is going to take 19 minutes total.
Jun 20, 2015 9:14 PM - Mike Kelly: heh nice
Jun 20, 2015 9:15 PM - jbigler1986: ruined my new drive gear i got
Jun 20, 2015 9:15 PM - Mike Kelly: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ride-along-my-robo-3d
Jun 20, 2015 9:15 PM - Mike Kelly: ouch
Jun 20, 2015 9:15 PM - jbigler1986: trying to bore it out
Jun 20, 2015 9:15 PM - Mike Kelly: i need more lights on that thing
Jun 20, 2015 9:15 PM - jbigler1986: gonna order a 8mm one monday
Jun 20, 2015 9:15 PM - jbigler1986: forgot what the boot looks like
Jun 20, 2015 9:16 PM - jbigler1986: when they sent me a spare they asked if i wanted a boot. i say god no
Jun 20, 2015 9:16 PM - jbigler1986: this is .25 nozzle too. i thought it was the nozzle so i swapped it. not the issue
Jun 20, 2015 9:17 PM - jbigler1986: what part is it?
Jun 20, 2015 9:17 PM - jbigler1986: for the hybrid?
Jun 20, 2015 9:17 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah
Jun 20, 2015 9:18 PM - Mike Kelly: it's the seat that clamps down on the geared stepper
Jun 20, 2015 9:18 PM - jbigler1986: how far along are you
Jun 20, 2015 9:18 PM - Mike Kelly: i was almost done till i broke that part
Jun 20, 2015 9:19 PM - Mike Kelly: so i designed a new one
Jun 20, 2015 9:19 PM - jbigler1986: and your dreams were shattered
Jun 20, 2015 9:19 PM - Mike Kelly: haha yup
Jun 20, 2015 9:20 PM - jbigler1986: thats what i was like today when i broke the fear
Jun 20, 2015 9:20 PM - Mike Kelly: it got too hot in there so i bailed
Jun 20, 2015 9:20 PM - Mike Glass: Hey Mike, JB
Jun 20, 2015 9:20 PM - Mike Kelly: yo mike
Jun 20, 2015 9:20 PM - jbigler1986: i bored out one of the other ones i bought. i might work with the gear stepper
Jun 20, 2015 9:20 PM - jbigler1986: hey MG
Jun 20, 2015 9:21 PM - Mike Glass: how goes the project
Jun 20, 2015 9:21 PM - Mike Glass: whatcha printing mike
Jun 20, 2015 9:21 PM - Mike Kelly: it's the part that holds the motor
Jun 20, 2015 9:22 PM - jbigler1986: i haven't dove into the hyrid yet. had to get regular bowden going up to speed first
Jun 20, 2015 9:22 PM - Montravont: Mike?!?!
Jun 20, 2015 9:22 PM - Mike Kelly: http://cl.ly/image/1h0W3v191C11
Jun 20, 2015 9:22 PM - Mike Kelly: sup mont
Jun 20, 2015 9:22 PM - jbigler1986: curently at 120mm/s MG
Jun 20, 2015 9:23 PM - Montravont: How do I set Cura and or S3D to level before heating?
Jun 20, 2015 9:23 PM - Montravont: just put 6 little divots into my brand new printinz. . . =/
Jun 20, 2015 9:23 PM - jbigler1986: i wouldn't suggest that unless you are sure your nozzle is always clean
Jun 20, 2015 9:24 PM - Mike Kelly: aw bummer
Jun 20, 2015 9:24 PM - Mike Kelly: uh cura i dunno
Jun 20, 2015 9:24 PM - Mike Glass: oh cold level is what you need
Jun 20, 2015 9:24 PM - Montravont: I usually didn't because of that exact reason JB, but the new plate it prone to divots and burning
Jun 20, 2015 9:25 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah you should see mine
Jun 20, 2015 9:25 PM - Mike Glass: that is awesome JB.
Jun 20, 2015 9:25 PM - Montravont: haha.. dents all over the place?
Jun 20, 2015 9:25 PM - Mike Kelly: not from the nozzle but other things...
Jun 20, 2015 9:25 PM - Montravont: ahh
Jun 20, 2015 9:25 PM - Mike Kelly: some drill holes trying to fix bubbles
Jun 20, 2015 9:25 PM - Mike Kelly: but i have one that had adhesive
Jun 20, 2015 9:25 PM - Montravont: So, yeah then.. Cold level
Jun 20, 2015 9:26 PM - Montravont: S3D is fine
Jun 20, 2015 9:26 PM - Montravont: Should be using that instead anyway since I have it
Jun 20, 2015 9:26 PM - jbigler1986: that plate seems like you have to baby it to much
Jun 20, 2015 9:26 PM - Mike Kelly: Cura i don't fully understand, it puts the temperature g-code before what you can edit....
Jun 20, 2015 9:26 PM - Mike Kelly: big reason i went to solenoid probe
Jun 20, 2015 9:27 PM - Mike Glass: My first successful stl milling with the cnc.
Jun 20, 2015 9:27 PM - Mike Kelly: very nice
Jun 20, 2015 9:28 PM - Mike Glass: pretty impressed with this machine I tell ya.
Jun 20, 2015 9:28 PM - Mike Kelly: heh i need to finish that thing
Jun 20, 2015 9:29 PM - Mike Glass: Its so fun Mike, cant wait till you get yours going.
Jun 20, 2015 9:30 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah i need to go out and buy the tube at the very least
Jun 20, 2015 9:31 PM - jbigler1986: part doesn't look to great. oh well. will tweak tomorrow. night guys. also looks nice MG.
Jun 20, 2015 9:31 PM - Mike Glass: thats with the cheapo harbor freight endpiece and motor.
Jun 20, 2015 9:31 PM - Mike Glass: night JB, happy fathers day!
Jun 20, 2015 9:32 PM - Mike Glass: oh and my $6 mill bit.
Jun 20, 2015 9:34 PM - Montravont: does this look right? https://forum.simplify3d.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2645
Jun 20, 2015 9:35 PM - Mike Kelly: yup
Jun 20, 2015 9:36 PM - Mike Glass: yea
Jun 20, 2015 9:37 PM - Mike Glass: Mike I replaced the bearings in my foredom, seems to be better now, but not really worth the upgrade unless you need 1/4 bits. just a JFI.
Jun 20, 2015 9:41 PM - Mike Kelly: gotcha
Jun 20, 2015 9:41 PM - Mike Glass: I ran my machine for 8 hour straight today, and no problems. its a workhorse
Jun 20, 2015 9:41 PM - Mike Kelly: that's sweet
Jun 20, 2015 9:41 PM - Mike Kelly: alright i think i'm off, catch ya later
Jun 20, 2015 9:42 PM - Mike Glass: night
Jun 20, 2015 9:43 PM - Mike Glass: Hey mont when is that baby due.
Jun 20, 2015 9:48 PM - Montravont: early december
Jun 20, 2015 9:48 PM - Montravont: night MK
Jun 20, 2015 9:49 PM - Montravont:
Jun 20, 2015 9:49 PM - Montravont: made some embossing stamps for my wife to use on her homemade soaps
Jun 20, 2015 10:04 PM - Mike Glass: nice
Jun 21, 2015 3:37 AM - jbigler1986: Happy Father's Day to all of you who are dads.
Jun 21, 2015 5:07 AM - jbigler1986: Fucking z offset in s3d
Jun 21, 2015 5:09 AM - jbigler1986: I change it but it pretends like i didnt change it
Jun 21, 2015 5:19 AM - Mike Glass: its FM
Jun 21, 2015 5:26 AM - jbigler1986: What?
Jun 21, 2015 5:26 AM - jbigler1986: And good morning
Jun 21, 2015 5:33 AM - Mike Glass: fucking magic
Jun 21, 2015 5:33 AM - Mike Glass: morning

 

Jun 21, 2015 5:40 AM - jbigler1986: Im going to reflash firmware. It has done it before. Not sure why
Jun 21, 2015 6:06 AM - Mike Glass: what are you up too today jb
Jun 21, 2015 6:27 AM - daniel871: Hm. One corner section of the printinz plate sits .2mm higher than the rest.
Jun 21, 2015 6:28 AM - Mike Glass: warped. or just thinkness
Jun 21, 2015 6:29 AM - daniel871: Thickness. I have several clips down both sides holding it flat.
Jun 21, 2015 6:30 AM - daniel871: Doesnt seem to hurt 1.2mm nozzle prints, but will be a problem if I ever go back to the .4 nozzle.
Jun 21, 2015 6:30 AM - Mike Glass: Did you measure it with a caliper?
Jun 21, 2015 6:31 AM - daniel871: Dial indicator running around on the x carriage.
Jun 21, 2015 6:32 AM - daniel871: With that dial indicator mount from thingiverse.
Jun 21, 2015 6:33 AM - Mike Glass: probably not the plate, check you magnets make sure the bed is pushed down all the way
Jun 21, 2015 6:33 AM - daniel871: Will do.
Jun 21, 2015 6:43 AM - Bill Monroe: doo be doo be doo.... lah dah de dee dah.....
Jun 21, 2015 8:00 AM - donhuevo: catching up on last night's Cura conversation... It will heat up before your start gcode unless you explicitly (and correctly) write it in. I had to go hunting for the correct versions of variables
Jun 21, 2015 8:04 AM - Bill Monroe: don... he's the variable hunter
Jun 21, 2015 8:05 AM - donhuevo: it was an adventure
Jun 21, 2015 8:10 AM - donhuevo: here's the line in Cura's engine for Repetier: M104 T0 S{TEMP0} and in the Cura software: M104 T0 S{print_temperature}
Jun 21, 2015 8:37 AM - donhuevo: oh, and this too... M190 S{print_bed_temperature}
Jun 21, 2015 8:57 AM - Mike Kelly: Mornin
Jun 21, 2015 8:58 AM - donhuevo: morning Mike
Jun 21, 2015 9:01 AM - Mike Kelly: So if you uncomment those lines it won't preheat before running the startup script
Jun 21, 2015 9:02 AM - donhuevo: even better, put them after your autolevel sequence. I'm getting cold autolevels out of Cura now
Jun 21, 2015 9:03 AM - donhuevo: but you know the first thing I tried was copying and pasting my Repetier-Cura gcode into Cura
Jun 21, 2015 9:03 AM - donhuevo: and it preheated before the autolevel
Jun 21, 2015 9:06 AM - Mike Kelly: It must look for a temp command in the startup gcode to decide if it puts them first
Jun 21, 2015 9:07 AM - donhuevo: yep. learnt the hard way
Jun 21, 2015 9:08 AM - jbigler1986: Hello fellas
Jun 21, 2015 9:09 AM - donhuevo: hey jb
Jun 21, 2015 9:11 AM - Mike Kelly: Sup jb
Jun 21, 2015 9:12 AM - jbigler1986: Not much. About to go get some hardware and 4 pin wiring
Jun 21, 2015 9:13 AM - jbigler1986: Happy Fathers Day don if you are a dad. I know MK isnt
Jun 21, 2015 9:14 AM - jbigler1986: 100mm/s extruded not great with gregs wade.
Jun 21, 2015 9:14 AM - donhuevo: thanks but I'm not either. Happy Father's Day to you though
Jun 21, 2015 9:14 AM - donhuevo: not great how?
Jun 21, 2015 9:18 AM - jbigler1986: Let me upload a pic
Jun 21, 2015 9:18 AM - jbigler1986:
Jun 21, 2015 9:19 AM - jbigler1986: Just realized i had layer height at .2 with .25 nozzle. Possibly the issue?
Jun 21, 2015 9:20 AM - donhuevo: definitely the issue
Jun 21, 2015 9:20 AM - jbigler1986: Woops. Ha
Jun 21, 2015 9:20 AM - jbigler1986: Thanks on the fathers day wish
Jun 21, 2015 9:21 AM - donhuevo: MK did you get a cold autolevel yet?
Jun 21, 2015 9:21 AM - donhuevo: I'm sorry I missed Mont last night
Jun 21, 2015 9:22 AM - Mike Glass: Don, MK, JB
Jun 21, 2015 9:22 AM - donhuevo: MG
Jun 21, 2015 9:22 AM - donhuevo: Happy Father's Day?
Jun 21, 2015 9:23 AM - Mike Glass: yea, you too. <--3 kids
Jun 21, 2015 9:23 AM - jbigler1986: MG. Yeah Happy Father's day
Jun 21, 2015 9:23 AM - donhuevo: <-- two dogs
Jun 21, 2015 9:23 AM - Mike Glass: Thanks, you as well.
Jun 21, 2015 9:24 AM - Mike Glass: lol. 3 dogs, 2cats, 3 kids.
Jun 21, 2015 9:24 AM - Mike Glass: Although guess we will be putting are Dane down soon.
Jun 21, 2015 9:25 AM - jbigler1986: Let me try at .12 height
Jun 21, 2015 9:26 AM - donhuevo: that sucks Mike. I'm sorry
Jun 21, 2015 9:26 AM - Mike Glass: yea thats some major under extrusion for that height..
Jun 21, 2015 9:26 AM - T&J: when my printer is probing the bed it runs into the y limit on the back of the bed
Jun 21, 2015 9:27 AM - donhuevo: are you doing the 9 point check?
Jun 21, 2015 9:27 AM - T&J: yes
Jun 21, 2015 9:27 AM - Mike Glass: Yea, he is just bout 10 years old which old for a dane.
Jun 21, 2015 9:27 AM - jbigler1986: Anyone know the gcode to retract 5mm at the end of a print then extrude 10mm at the start like cura
Jun 21, 2015 9:27 AM - jbigler1986: Tried curas code but it didnt work the same
Jun 21, 2015 9:28 AM - jbigler1986: Although i didnt copy the whole start gcode
Jun 21, 2015 9:28 AM - donhuevo: did you have any red squigglies in the Cura code?
Jun 21, 2015 9:28 AM - Mike Glass: G1 E-3.0
Jun 21, 2015 9:28 AM - T&J: it does not have a switch on that side
Jun 21, 2015 9:28 AM - donhuevo: ya, I deleted that after I thought about it for a sec
Jun 21, 2015 9:29 AM - jbigler1986: Yeah i know the code. It jisy didnt work how i wanted. I wanted it to lift like 5mm after autolevel then extrude 10mm then start the print
Jun 21, 2015 9:29 AM - jbigler1986: Didnt lift z after autolevel
Jun 21, 2015 9:29 AM - donhuevo: weird mine does
Jun 21, 2015 9:29 AM - Mike Glass: G1 F200 E3, do you have that
Jun 21, 2015 9:31 AM - jbigler1986: Yep. Except changed 3 to 10
Jun 21, 2015 9:31 AM - Mike Glass: Is there a thread on cold level?
Jun 21, 2015 9:31 AM - jbigler1986: There is on s3d forum i believe
Jun 21, 2015 9:31 AM - donhuevo: ya, you arent' going to extrude anything until it's heated up.
Jun 21, 2015 9:33 AM - Mike Glass: T&J you might have to look under the bed and check the wires on the switch
Jun 21, 2015 9:33 AM - donhuevo: here's my Cura code...
Jun 21, 2015 9:34 AM - T&J: mine only has the switch on the homing side
Jun 21, 2015 9:35 AM - donhuevo: I dropped my Y_MAX_POS value in the firmware from 254 to 240
Jun 21, 2015 9:36 AM - jbigler1986: I may just copy the entire cura start gcode
Jun 21, 2015 9:36 AM - donhuevo: also have a look at #define BACK_PROBE_BED_POSITION in the firmware as well
Jun 21, 2015 9:36 AM - T&J: ill check that y max value
Jun 21, 2015 9:37 AM - donhuevo: both of those are in configuration.h
Jun 21, 2015 9:38 AM - Mike Kelly: It's probably not homing y properly or something is getting caught moving back
Jun 21, 2015 9:38 AM - Mike Kelly: Try a manual movement to 254
Jun 21, 2015 9:50 AM - Mike Kelly: Who was talking about simplify3d cold start? http://community.robo3d.com/index.php?threads/buildtak-melting.5936/
Jun 21, 2015 9:56 AM - jbigler1986: The man himself has arrived
Jun 21, 2015 10:04 AM - donhuevo: which man? where?
Jun 21, 2015 10:17 AM - jbigler1986: Fuck you z offset
Jun 21, 2015 10:17 AM - donhuevo: you tell 'em jb
Jun 21, 2015 10:21 AM - jbigler1986: Alright changed it from .68 to 1. Should be way abive the bed just to see if it works
Jun 21, 2015 10:21 AM - jbigler1986: If not im uninstalling s3d and reinstalling
Jun 21, 2015 10:21 AM - donhuevo: were you smooshing the first layer too much?
Jun 21, 2015 10:22 AM - Mike Glass: smaller nozzle is a pain for leveling
Jun 21, 2015 10:22 AM - jbigler1986: No. It wasnt low enough
Jun 21, 2015 10:22 AM - donhuevo: I have a .25 I haven't ever tried.
Jun 21, 2015 10:22 AM - donhuevo: you're makiing me not want to
Jun 21, 2015 10:23 AM - Mike Glass: I have a .2 did a few things but holy hell it takes forever to make a part.
Jun 21, 2015 10:24 AM - jbigler1986: I love the .25 if s3d would stop being a slut
Jun 21, 2015 10:24 AM - Mike Glass: .3 is tolerable
Jun 21, 2015 10:25 AM - jbigler1986: .25 doesnt add a ton of print time
Jun 21, 2015 10:26 AM - Mike Glass: almost double the time
Jun 21, 2015 10:26 AM - Mike Glass: plus you have to go slower

 

Jun 21, 2015 10:27 AM - donhuevo: and carry the one...
Jun 21, 2015 10:28 AM - Mike Glass: I just want mutiple printers with different nozzles, then you dont have to f with it for an hour
Jun 21, 2015 10:28 AM - jbigler1986: Minus the square root of 19
Jun 21, 2015 10:29 AM - jbigler1986: My wife needs to hurry up so i can go get my goods
Jun 21, 2015 10:29 AM - donhuevo: yep. my thought for the .25 was a small enclosed printer for fine nylon gear work
Jun 21, 2015 10:29 AM - donhuevo: and tiny little Yodas
Jun 21, 2015 10:30 AM - WheresWaldo: I am kinda watching shoutbox, but thought I had to ask something. Why do you guys fuss with Z offset so much?
Jun 21, 2015 10:32 AM - donhuevo: if you don't have a perfect first layer, you'll most likely not get a print
Jun 21, 2015 10:33 AM - donhuevo: too high and it'll probably come loose before it finishes
Jun 21, 2015 10:33 AM - WheresWaldo: Doesn't really answer the question.
Jun 21, 2015 10:33 AM - WheresWaldo: Z offset doesn't magically change between prints
Jun 21, 2015 10:34 AM - donhuevo: no but you'd need a different offset for a .25 nozzle
Jun 21, 2015 10:35 AM - WheresWaldo: That I understand, but how often does an average user change nozzles, and the general recommendation here has always been to adjust z offset always.
Jun 21, 2015 10:37 AM - WheresWaldo: And technically since Z Offset is supposed to be the measurement between when the Z_MIN_ENDSTOP triggers and the top of the print bed, it shouldn't be affected by what size nozzle you use. Also considering the fact that on the Robo, the nozzle is the probe.
Jun 21, 2015 10:37 AM - donhuevo: you're right... for the most part it is a 'set it and forget it' thing
Jun 21, 2015 10:38 AM - donhuevo: but you always need to watch your first layer to make sure
Jun 21, 2015 10:41 AM - WheresWaldo: Understood, but it does end up messing with the overall height, squish more = shorter part. So it would seem to me that if you ask for a .2 mm layer the first layer should be .2 mm, not 1.8 mm to squish it. It would make much more sense to play with first layer extrusion rather than height.
Jun 21, 2015 10:42 AM - WheresWaldo: That should be .18 mm in my example, fat fingers.
Jun 21, 2015 10:43 AM - donhuevo: I agree in theory but after countless failed parts I've come to the conclusion, at least for my printer, the squish is absolutely necessary
Jun 21, 2015 10:44 AM - WheresWaldo: If first layer extrusion were some % above normal layers it would solve the ever changing Z offset 'work-around'
Jun 21, 2015 10:46 AM - WheresWaldo: According to the Marlin devs, this is how the z Offset is supposed to work, unless you change the hardware, the offset doesn't change.
Jun 21, 2015 10:48 AM - Mike Kelly: does anyone know how to stream from youtube
Jun 21, 2015 10:48 AM - Mike Kelly: i'm apparently not that smart
Jun 21, 2015 10:49 AM - donhuevo: I'm always up for more experimenting Waldo, what sort of percentage over 100 are you running on your first layer?
Jun 21, 2015 10:49 AM - WheresWaldo: MK, What is your target device?
Jun 21, 2015 10:50 AM - Mike Kelly: a webcam?
Jun 21, 2015 10:50 AM - WheresWaldo: Don, about 125% since it is a percent and not a fixed amount I can essentially forget about layer size, but I am still experimenting also.
Jun 21, 2015 10:50 AM - Mike Kelly: i should just google it
Jun 21, 2015 10:50 AM - donhuevo: google is the third lobe of my brain
Jun 21, 2015 10:50 AM - WheresWaldo: MK, You want to stream to YouTube, I see.
Jun 21, 2015 10:51 AM - WheresWaldo: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2853700?hl=en
Jun 21, 2015 10:55 AM - Mike Kelly: doesn't seem to want to view my camera, dumb thing
Jun 21, 2015 10:58 AM - WheresWaldo: Sorry, you have reached the limit of my telepathic troubleshooting skills.
Jun 21, 2015 11:02 AM - Mike Kelly: Haha yeah I can get it I'm sure. It's just a bit clunky
Jun 21, 2015 11:05 AM - Mike Kelly:
Jun 21, 2015 11:06 AM - Mike Kelly: it's weird that the broadcaster page is mirrored
Jun 21, 2015 11:09 AM - jbigler1986: Why is bowden so hard to retract. Keep getting jams. About to go direct
Jun 21, 2015 11:09 AM - Mike Kelly: that is the great mystery about bowden
Jun 21, 2015 11:10 AM - donhuevo: how much retraction are you using?
Jun 21, 2015 11:10 AM - jbigler1986: Yep. Direct here i come
Jun 21, 2015 11:11 AM - jbigler1986: Any retraction amount does it
Jun 21, 2015 11:11 AM - jbigler1986: Can extrude fine. As soon as i retract it says fuck you jb
Jun 21, 2015 11:12 AM - donhuevo: weird. Is it a jam or is it chewing filament at the hob?
Jun 21, 2015 11:13 AM - jbigler1986: Cant even manually pull that bitch by hand
Jun 21, 2015 11:14 AM - Mike Kelly: crazy
Jun 21, 2015 11:15 AM - Mike Kelly: you could try lubricating your ptfe tube
Jun 21, 2015 11:15 AM - Mike Kelly: that helps a bit
Jun 21, 2015 11:15 AM - Mike Kelly: my be pinched though, what are you cutting your ptfe with
Jun 21, 2015 11:15 AM - jbigler1986: Xacto or whatever its called
Jun 21, 2015 11:16 AM - Mike Kelly: might invest in a tube cutter
Jun 21, 2015 11:16 AM - donhuevo: you didn't tie your bowden to your wiring did you?
Jun 21, 2015 11:18 AM - Mike Kelly: do you think oogoo would work as an insulator on a hot end
Jun 21, 2015 11:19 AM - donhuevo: there are high temp silicones out there and they cure the same way so, why the hell not. That's a fantastic idea!
Jun 21, 2015 11:19 AM - Mike Kelly: the rep2 requires that the heater block be insulated and the kapton/ceramic tape has a short lifespan
Jun 21, 2015 11:23 AM - jbigler1986: No wiring isnt messing with the tube.
Jun 21, 2015 11:24 AM - Mike Kelly: is your arc pretty gradual
Jun 21, 2015 11:24 AM - jbigler1986: Like i said it will extrude fine. May try to shorten ptfe as much as possible
Jun 21, 2015 11:25 AM - donhuevo: if the filament moves freely through the tube when not connected to the extruder then your problem is elsewhere
Jun 21, 2015 11:25 AM - Mike Kelly: i'd try lubricating
Jun 21, 2015 11:26 AM - Mike Kelly: also be sure not to retract too much
Jun 21, 2015 11:26 AM - Mike Kelly: pulling the melted section out of the nozzle can cause it to expand and jam
Jun 21, 2015 11:26 AM - jbigler1986: That is very possible
Jun 21, 2015 11:28 AM - jbigler1986: Probably retracting to much at the end a print
Jun 21, 2015 11:28 AM - jbigler1986: That probably did it
Jun 21, 2015 11:29 AM - donhuevo: ya, didn't I hear you say retract 10mm at the end of a print?
Jun 21, 2015 11:32 AM - Mike Kelly: i thought it was 3 retract 10 extrude
Jun 21, 2015 11:43 AM - donhuevo: Mike, did you get your Cura cold autolevel yet?
Jun 21, 2015 11:44 AM - Mike Kelly: why would i need to do a cold autolevel?
Jun 21, 2015 11:44 AM - Mike Kelly: don i showed you the printer with the all aluminum geared drive?
Jun 21, 2015 11:44 AM - donhuevo: no sir
Jun 21, 2015 11:46 AM - donhuevo: right, with your z probe you wouldn't
Jun 21, 2015 11:46 AM - donhuevo: duh
Jun 21, 2015 11:48 AM - Mike Kelly: https://plus.google.com/115384478098293259678/posts/imCpDvXsW4E
Jun 21, 2015 11:48 AM - Mike Kelly: i feel like you did see this
Jun 21, 2015 11:50 AM - Mike Kelly: makes me want to design a printer
Jun 21, 2015 11:50 AM - donhuevo: first time. I would have remembered that
Jun 21, 2015 11:50 AM - Mike Kelly: awesome right?
Jun 21, 2015 11:51 AM - donhuevo: I love the idea of building with finely crafted aluminum but no. Not awesome
Jun 21, 2015 11:51 AM - donhuevo: not only is the extruder aluminum and the stepper is on the carriage but the carriage is aluminum too
Jun 21, 2015 11:52 AM - donhuevo: it'll never win any races
Jun 21, 2015 11:53 AM - Mike Kelly: who cares about winning races when you could be printing in polycarbonate?
Jun 21, 2015 11:53 AM - donhuevo: sell me on polycarbonate. go...
Jun 21, 2015 11:54 AM - Mike Kelly: it's the strongest most high temp rated material there is
Jun 21, 2015 11:55 AM - Mike Kelly: well i guess peek might be higher
Jun 21, 2015 11:55 AM - Mike Kelly: you could make functional home parts without worrying about them breaking
Jun 21, 2015 11:55 AM - donhuevo: how hot does the extruder need to get to print it?
Jun 21, 2015 11:55 AM - Mike Kelly: 290
Jun 21, 2015 11:56 AM - Mike Kelly: and you want a heated enclosure
Jun 21, 2015 11:56 AM - Mike Kelly: it's more work than most people want to go through
Jun 21, 2015 11:56 AM - Mike Kelly: but it's one of my goals
Jun 21, 2015 11:56 AM - donhuevo: ok, so why is the water-cooling all-aluminum extruder necessary?
Jun 21, 2015 11:56 AM - Mike Kelly: well you want to keep the heatsink cool
Jun 21, 2015 11:57 AM - Mike Kelly: and stepper motor magnets demagnetize around 80C
Jun 21, 2015 11:57 AM - Mike Kelly: so if you want an ambient temperature of 100C you need to enclose it
Jun 21, 2015 11:57 AM - Mike Kelly: err
Jun 21, 2015 11:57 AM - Mike Kelly: water cool
Jun 21, 2015 11:57 AM - donhuevo: seems like you'd want to use bowden then
Jun 21, 2015 11:58 AM - donhuevo: and plumb a high cfm fan to the heatsink
Jun 21, 2015 11:58 AM - Mike Kelly: eh not everyone enjoys bowden as much as you do
Jun 21, 2015 11:58 AM - Mike Kelly: how long is your bowden tube?

 

Jun 21, 2015 11:59 AM - donhuevo: the one on there now is over 2ft
Jun 21, 2015 11:59 AM - Mike Kelly: that's not as long as i was expecting
Jun 21, 2015 11:59 AM - donhuevo: unfortunately I've heard her say THAT more than once
Jun 21, 2015 12:00 PM - Mike Kelly: haha oh poor don
Jun 21, 2015 12:04 PM - Mike Kelly: once i clean up the wiring and stop the thermistor from disconnecting i'll have my hybrid setup finished
Jun 21, 2015 12:05 PM - Mike Kelly: also don i think you're too critical of aluminum wrt speed
Jun 21, 2015 12:05 PM - Mike Kelly: you can go equally fast, probably faster becuase you're more rigid
Jun 21, 2015 12:05 PM - Mike Kelly: granted you need to buy bigger parts to achieve that
Jun 21, 2015 12:05 PM - Mike Kelly: eg LM12uu and 12mm rods
Jun 21, 2015 12:06 PM - donhuevo:
Jun 21, 2015 12:06 PM - donhuevo: I'd think the biggest issue is moving from GT2 to GT3 so the added inertia has less effect on belt stretch
Jun 21, 2015 12:06 PM - Mike Kelly: there's still inertia to consider but the increased rigidity and ability to withstand deflection is what matters
Jun 21, 2015 12:08 PM - jbigler1986: Yeah i did 10 retract. Woops
Jun 21, 2015 12:08 PM - jbigler1986: Whats the max
Jun 21, 2015 12:08 PM - Mike Kelly: i'd do like 5
Jun 21, 2015 12:08 PM - Mike Kelly: 3 also seemed fine
Jun 21, 2015 12:08 PM - donhuevo: better to go and find the minimum
Jun 21, 2015 12:10 PM - jbigler1986: May just have to deal with the boogers
Jun 21, 2015 12:10 PM - jbigler1986: During autolevel
Jun 21, 2015 12:13 PM - Stephen Capistron: JB, your filament stripping at the hob with bowden?
Jun 21, 2015 12:13 PM - donhuevo: unless you autolevel cold
Jun 21, 2015 12:13 PM - donhuevo: then it's just one booger instead of nine
Jun 21, 2015 12:15 PM - jbigler1986: True. Gotta make sure you nozzle is clean though
Jun 21, 2015 12:15 PM - jbigler1986: I was just trying to avoid the damn boogers. What retract length and speed do you use during prints
Jun 21, 2015 12:21 PM - donhuevo: I'm doing 5mm and 60mm/s
Jun 21, 2015 12:22 PM - donhuevo: I don't get any stringing worth mentioning
Jun 21, 2015 12:39 PM - Mike Kelly: heating up for another print
Jun 21, 2015 12:40 PM - Mike Kelly: forgot how slow the bed heats...
Jun 21, 2015 12:41 PM - donhuevo: it's like watching hairspray dry
Jun 21, 2015 12:43 PM - Mike Kelly: i don't think xsplit can display cura for some reason
Jun 21, 2015 12:44 PM - Mike Kelly: oh it can if you select the whole window
Jun 21, 2015 12:45 PM - donhuevo: is this the new robo?
Jun 21, 2015 12:47 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah
Jun 21, 2015 12:48 PM - Stephen Capistron: I see the cura window there
Jun 21, 2015 12:49 PM - Mike Kelly: i had to add it as a game
Jun 21, 2015 12:49 PM - Mike Kelly: sorry it's kinda loud
Jun 21, 2015 12:49 PM - Stephen Capistron: ah
Jun 21, 2015 12:50 PM - Stephen Capistron: I couldn't hear anything anyways
Jun 21, 2015 12:50 PM - Stephen Capistron: Volume is turned down, my printer is running, the washer and dryer are both going
Jun 21, 2015 12:50 PM - Stephen Capistron: and my hearing isn't so swell to begin with
Jun 21, 2015 12:52 PM - Stephen Capistron: A few years of landscaping through college will do that
Jun 21, 2015 12:56 PM - Stephen Capistron: I think I have an ABfnS theorem. The stinker the plastic the better it prints.
Jun 21, 2015 12:59 PM - jbigler1986:
Jun 21, 2015 1:00 PM - jbigler1986: Pulled that out of the heat break. Had to disassemble. Pretty sure that 10mm retraction was the issue. You nailed it from the looks of it
Jun 21, 2015 1:02 PM - jbigler1986: Also pretty sure my spring tension was to tight. It was grinding a tiny bit making the filament a little rough. Not helping it through the ptfe
Jun 21, 2015 1:03 PM - Stephen Capistron: I was wondering if the pla was getting a little too warm and soft going through so when you retracted it was too soft and just stripped
Jun 21, 2015 1:03 PM - Stephen Capistron: But yeah, I don't think the section of filament in the heat break should look like that
Jun 21, 2015 1:04 PM - jbigler1986: Nope. It normally look way different
Jun 21, 2015 1:07 PM - jbigler1986:
Jun 21, 2015 1:07 PM - jbigler1986: Thats how it normally looks
Jun 21, 2015 1:20 PM - jbigler1986: So yeah. Definitely not correct. Lol
Jun 21, 2015 1:22 PM - jbigler1986: Just got all the hardware needed MK. Instqlling the geared stepper now. No kore 10mm retraction. Lol
Jun 21, 2015 1:24 PM - donhuevo: gonna give the bowden another shot then
Jun 21, 2015 1:29 PM - jbigler1986: Yep. Now that i know 10mm is not a good idea. Lol
Jun 21, 2015 1:31 PM - donhuevo: cool
Jun 21, 2015 1:33 PM - jbigler1986: It was doing great until i tried to fix the booger problem
Jun 21, 2015 1:38 PM - jbigler1986: Forgot to get a 4 pin connector. Damn. Oh well.
Jun 21, 2015 1:39 PM - donhuevo: damnit
Jun 21, 2015 1:44 PM - jbigler1986: Just more splicing if i need to swap steppers
Jun 21, 2015 1:45 PM - donhuevo: that's tomorrow's problem
Jun 21, 2015 1:52 PM - Mike Kelly: alright hybrid robostein is up and printing
Jun 21, 2015 1:55 PM - Mike Kelly: also good to know you can print from 2 cura instances at once
Jun 21, 2015 2:24 PM - Mike Kelly: needs more tension on the bondtech i think
Jun 21, 2015 2:44 PM - jbigler1986: I wanna see this
Jun 21, 2015 2:59 PM - Mike Kelly: man i think i need to put on a new connector for the thermistor
Jun 21, 2015 2:59 PM - Mike Kelly: keeps jumping around causing temp fall
Jun 21, 2015 3:00 PM - Mike Kelly:
Jun 21, 2015 3:04 PM - jbigler1986: Hmmm
Jun 21, 2015 3:05 PM - jbigler1986: Where is the 2nd bowden tube
Jun 21, 2015 3:06 PM - Mike Kelly: kinda hard to see but it's next to the red one in front of the wire loom
Jun 21, 2015 3:10 PM - jbigler1986: I think i see it
Jun 21, 2015 3:10 PM - jbigler1986: Did you see the poc of the awesomeness i pulled out of the heat break
Jun 21, 2015 3:51 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah that looked fun
Jun 21, 2015 4:08 PM - jbigler1986: I WOULD SAY THAT WAS THE ISSUE
Jun 21, 2015 4:08 PM - jbigler1986: sorry for caps
Jun 21, 2015 4:30 PM - donhuevo: look at the size of that thing!
Jun 21, 2015 4:30 PM - jbigler1986: So this looks like a winner. Got some stronger springs from ace too
Jun 21, 2015 4:31 PM - jbigler1986: Using the first drive gear i bought
Jun 21, 2015 4:32 PM - donhuevo: I see some heat set goodness in there too
Jun 21, 2015 4:33 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah that's what the bondtech uses
Jun 21, 2015 4:33 PM - donhuevo: those make me happy to use hardware
Jun 21, 2015 4:35 PM - jbigler1986: Whats what the bondtech uses
Jun 21, 2015 4:35 PM - jbigler1986: Did i miss something
Jun 21, 2015 4:36 PM - donhuevo: I'm trying to find one on McMaster
Jun 21, 2015 4:37 PM - donhuevo: http://www.mcmaster.com/#94180a333/=xq59eh
Jun 21, 2015 4:37 PM - jbigler1986: Im lost
Jun 21, 2015 4:37 PM - donhuevo: basically, it's a nut that you heat up and push into a plastic part
Jun 21, 2015 4:39 PM - donhuevo:
Jun 21, 2015 4:40 PM - jbigler1986: What are those for
Jun 21, 2015 4:40 PM - Mike Kelly: in this application there's a set screw inside it that you use to put tension on the idler gear
Jun 21, 2015 4:41 PM - jbigler1986: Ahh. Instead of spring tension bolts
Jun 21, 2015 4:43 PM - jbigler1986: MK clean your teeth.
Jun 21, 2015 4:44 PM - donhuevo: yep, looks like you've got some spinach there
Jun 21, 2015 4:45 PM - jbigler1986: Curious. Hopefully i dont offend anyone. Are there any black people on the forum
Jun 21, 2015 4:45 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah they got pretty gunky when under tensioned
Jun 21, 2015 4:53 PM - donhuevo: so Mike, are you saying Bondtech printed those parts and not you?
Jun 21, 2015 5:09 PM - jbigler1986: He printed the case
Jun 21, 2015 5:19 PM - donhuevo: well, it's just nice to see I'm not the only one dealing with ringing
Jun 21, 2015 5:51 PM - Mike Kelly: I printed with all that
Jun 21, 2015 5:56 PM - jbigler1986: Ringing? What is that

 

Jun 21, 2015 5:57 PM - donhuevo: I'm slowly lowering perimeter speeds and increasing infill. Hoping to crisp up the edges
Jun 21, 2015 6:00 PM - jbigler1986: How do you guys change filament since i get a jam if i retract to far
Jun 21, 2015 6:08 PM - jbigler1986: Do a "cold" pull
Jun 21, 2015 6:21 PM - donhuevo: yep, I usually pull when it's maybe 3/4 of printing temp?
Jun 21, 2015 6:30 PM - jbigler1986: Yeah. I didnt even think about trying to retract when it was hot
Jun 21, 2015 6:33 PM - daniel871: Well, checked that the bed magnets were seated and re-checked that the X-axis was level with the bed. Getting random passes of filament that won't adhere to the printinz plate though.
Jun 21, 2015 6:34 PM - daniel871: Like, A perimeter run will be going and three passes go down fine on an infill run, then the fourth pass will come up off the bed and get tangled on the volcano as the fifth pass comes back by. All on the same theoretical Z depth.
Jun 21, 2015 7:13 PM - jbigler1986: Alright. Calibrated extruder.
Jun 21, 2015 7:14 PM - jbigler1986: Don e steps ended up being like 537 on mine. Not far from yours
Jun 21, 2015 7:18 PM - donhuevo: I figured it would be close
Jun 21, 2015 7:19 PM - jbigler1986: Testing at 110 on the jhead mount
Jun 21, 2015 7:24 PM - donhuevo: keep me posted
Jun 21, 2015 7:25 PM - jbigler1986: Back to z offset. Fucker
Jun 21, 2015 7:26 PM - jbigler1986: Alright. Dropped it .06 lets see how it does
Jun 21, 2015 7:32 PM - jbigler1986: Nope. Reinstalled S3D. Lets try again
Jun 21, 2015 7:33 PM - jbigler1986: May have to try cura if this doesnt work
Jun 21, 2015 7:34 PM - donhuevo: what the hell
Jun 21, 2015 7:36 PM - jbigler1986: Cura time. Idk wtf is going on
Jun 21, 2015 7:38 PM - jbigler1986: Im baffled
Jun 21, 2015 7:43 PM - donhuevo: 1st layer too high? too low?
Jun 21, 2015 7:43 PM - jbigler1986: To high
Jun 21, 2015 7:43 PM - donhuevo: are you probing hot or cold?
Jun 21, 2015 7:43 PM - jbigler1986: Hot
Jun 21, 2015 7:44 PM - jbigler1986: Started at .70 went down to .56 with no change at all
Jun 21, 2015 7:45 PM - donhuevo: so G1 z0.56 then G92 z0?
Jun 21, 2015 7:45 PM - jbigler1986: Thats -.70
Jun 21, 2015 7:45 PM - jbigler1986: M565
Jun 21, 2015 7:47 PM - Mike Kelly: i get to figure out how to remove a stripped screw from my carriage, oh joy
Jun 21, 2015 7:47 PM - jbigler1986: Yeah. Neither one of us is having fun right now
Jun 21, 2015 7:48 PM - jbigler1986: Any other offset i can use besides M565 since its being a bitch
Jun 21, 2015 7:49 PM - donhuevo: G1 Z-0.70 then G92 Z0
Jun 21, 2015 7:49 PM - jbigler1986: In start gcode?
Jun 21, 2015 7:50 PM - donhuevo: yep, immediately after the G29 autolevel probe sequence
Jun 21, 2015 7:51 PM - jbigler1986: Comment out M565?
Jun 21, 2015 7:52 PM - donhuevo: yep. never used that one. looks scary
Jun 21, 2015 7:53 PM - jbigler1986: Alright. Starting a print
Jun 21, 2015 7:53 PM - donhuevo: stupid question... you're re-slicing after each of these changes, right?
Jun 21, 2015 7:54 PM - jbigler1986: Of course
Jun 21, 2015 7:54 PM - donhuevo: I didn't want to ask
Jun 21, 2015 7:54 PM - jbigler1986: Starting to wonder if its even saving the changes after slicing. Might have to open gcode in text editor to see
Jun 21, 2015 7:57 PM - jbigler1986: That did it
Jun 21, 2015 7:57 PM - jbigler1986: Thanks don
Jun 21, 2015 7:57 PM - donhuevo: yay!
Jun 21, 2015 7:57 PM - donhuevo: welcome
Jun 21, 2015 7:58 PM - jbigler1986: Idk what the hell is going on. Oh well
Jun 21, 2015 7:58 PM - jbigler1986: Pretty much the same adjustment this way
Jun 21, 2015 7:59 PM - donhuevo: what happened now?
Jun 21, 2015 8:07 PM - jbigler1986: Nothing. Just saying adjusting that is same as adjusting M565
Jun 21, 2015 8:10 PM - donhuevo: but you're printing ok now?
Jun 21, 2015 8:13 PM - Bill Monroe: yo
Jun 21, 2015 8:17 PM - donhuevo: hey Bill
Jun 21, 2015 8:17 PM - Bill Monroe: don
Jun 21, 2015 8:18 PM - donhuevo: how was the air show?
Jun 21, 2015 8:18 PM - Bill Monroe: heh. there's no such thing as a bad airshow
Jun 21, 2015 8:18 PM - Bill Monroe: hang on.,. got a vid to share
Jun 21, 2015 8:20 PM - Bill Monroe: eh it's taking youtube a bit
Jun 21, 2015 8:22 PM - Bill Monroe:
Jun 21, 2015 8:23 PM - donhuevo: nice
Jun 21, 2015 8:24 PM - Bill Monroe: only 8 left flying in the entire world
Jun 21, 2015 8:25 PM - Bill Monroe: it was an unannouced participant.. I heard it call final approach and whipped out my 6+ just in time
Jun 21, 2015 8:26 PM - donhuevo: very cool

 

Jun 21, 2015 at 9:07 PM - jbigler1986: Alright going back direct tomorrow. I tried.
Jun 21, 2015 at 9:08 PM - jbigler1986: Dont feed like messing with it anymore.
Jun 21, 2015 at 9:11 PM - jbigler1986: Maybe if i had a shorter length of ptfe. I will go back direct and see what i can come up with for it.
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:07 AM - Bill Monroe: good morning
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:32 AM - jbigler1986: Morning
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:34 AM - Bill Monroe: jb
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:36 AM - Bill Monroe: have a good father's day?
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:58 AM - jbigler1986: yep
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:58 AM - jbigler1986: u?
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:11 AM - Bill Monroe: my kids all live in different cities now too far to visit casually so, I spent it at the airport
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:12 AM - Bill Monroe: airshow weekend. had hanger open house, BBQ, aviation movies on the big screen, etc..
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:12 AM - JeffTheMess: Good morning roboneers
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:12 AM - Bill Monroe: jeff
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:13 AM - JeffTheMess: Happy fathers days to those who apply
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:14 AM - JeffTheMess: how was the open house bill
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:14 AM - Bill Monroe: it was awesome.. rare planes flying, lots of people I've not seen in awhile, perfect weather
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:15 AM - JeffTheMess: that's great
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:15 AM - Bill Monroe: 2.0 was in top of her hostess' game
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:15 AM - JeffTheMess: any drones? quads, rc planes?
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:15 AM - Bill Monroe: her outfit didnt hurt
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:15 AM - Bill Monroe: NO!
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:16 AM - Bill Monroe: illegal to fly RC within 5 nm radius
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:16 AM - JeffTheMess: lol
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:16 AM - Bill Monroe: if just one RC plane made a sound, all those owners of million $$ plus rare fighters would have left
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:16 AM - JeffTheMess: I've been seeing more Air shows include some time for the big boy rc planes
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:17 AM - JeffTheMess: yup
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:17 AM - JeffTheMess:
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:17 AM - Bill Monroe: ya, during approved airshows they're allowed IF the airport is closed to transient traffic, no real planes flying, and the airboss permits it
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:18 AM - Bill Monroe: I see so many people claim to have the biggiest RC plane... they're not even close
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:20 AM - JeffTheMess: this is one of the cooler things
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:21 AM - JeffTheMess: anyone printed anything good this weekend
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:22 AM - jbigler1986: nope. i'm breaking mine. lol
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:24 AM - JeffTheMess: lol nice, what mischief are you doing to it
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:24 AM - Bill Monroe: i spent the weekend watching 90-somethings hit on my wife
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:24 AM - JeffTheMess: bunch of pervs lol
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:25 AM - Bill Monroe: she loved it.. they're really a great bunch of guys
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:26 AM - Bill Monroe: the boobs got them in, the burgers kept them there
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:26 AM - jbigler1986: i was trying to setup bowden. it's not an extruder issue. it would jam but the extruder kept trucking. was pushing filament out of the side of the extruder. lol
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:26 AM - jbigler1986: meatloaf?
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:27 AM - Bill Monroe: actually yes just barbequed instead of baked
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:27 AM - jbigler1986: mmmmm
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:27 AM - Bill Monroe: she put that bacon/pork roll in the smoker too.. that was awesome
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:30 AM - JeffTheMess: nice
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:31 AM - donhuevo: morning
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:31 AM - Bill Monroe: don
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:31 AM - JeffTheMess: whatsup don
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:32 AM - donhuevo: can't believe the weekend is over already
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:32 AM - Bill Monroe: agreed
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:33 AM - Bill Monroe: but I need to go back to work so I can recover from the weekend
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:33 AM - jbigler1986: morning don
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:33 AM - donhuevo: morning jb
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:33 AM - JeffTheMess: I see what you did there bill
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:34 AM - Bill Monroe: gads, did i leave the camera on again?
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:37 AM - jbigler1986: don going back direct for now
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:37 AM - donhuevo: what the hell jb
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:40 AM - jbigler1986: well it's not an extruder issue. gets stuck in ptfe
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:40 AM - jbigler1986: extruder keeps extruding with it jammed in the tube. oiling it may help
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:41 AM - jbigler1986: ptfe tube ID needs to be like .3mm bigger. than would help as well
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:42 AM - donhuevo: any other pieces of ptfe lying around to try?
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:42 AM - jbigler1986: not long enough
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:43 AM - jbigler1986: i may try to mount it to the bacl of the case. have a shorter length of ptfe to go through
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:44 AM - donhuevo: you've seen where Mike mounted his, right?
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:44 AM - jbigler1986: on the side of the case?
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:44 AM - donhuevo: yep
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:45 AM - donhuevo: although that made his tubes maybe too short
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:45 AM - jbigler1986: my filament comes from the back left though
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:46 AM - Bill Monroe: if your hob makes dents or cuts in the filament, that can cause it to jam in the tube
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:46 AM - Bill Monroe: it raises the total friction
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:46 AM - jbigler1986: yeah with this hobb it does
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:47 AM - jbigler1986: broke my other one
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:47 AM - Bill Monroe: happened to me.. but I really like the bob bolt so, trashed the bowden
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:47 AM - Bill Monroe: no problems since
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:49 AM - jbigler1986: What kind of bolt?
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:49 AM - Bill Monroe: a shiny pretty one
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:50 AM - Bill Monroe: honestly I cant recall.. I got it in an extruder hardware kit
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:50 AM - Bill Monroe: very aggressive, doest take much pressure on the pinch wheel.. excellent feed rate stability
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:51 AM - jbigler1986: Ahh. Yeah this one has a ton of grip. Going to go direct until i get a new gear
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:42 AM - jbigler1986: HELLO
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:44 AM - Bill Monroe: ??
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:47 AM - jbigler1986: Just felt like breaking the silence
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:47 AM - Bill Monroe: oh first the robo, now the silence.. where will it end?
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:48 AM - jbigler1986: Good question
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:49 AM - jbigler1986: Ban bacon to cali. So to make you suffer
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:49 AM - jbigler1986: Just to make you suffer
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:49 AM - Bill Monroe: there'll be riots
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:54 AM - jbigler1986: Looks like i need to make my own hobb with 8mm bore
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:57 AM - jbigler1986: Not easy to find that ships from US
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:05 AM - Mike Kelly: mornin
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:05 AM - jbigler1986: Morning
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:08 AM - jbigler1986: Anyone tried to make a hobb from a bolt?
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:09 AM - Mike Kelly: nope
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:11 AM - jbigler1986: I saw something on thingiverse. Just curious
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:16 AM - Mike Glass: Bondtech, Bondtech
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:16 AM - Shank: in the g code how would you set the second extuder stepper as the active one?
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:16 AM - Mike Glass: Mornin
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:18 AM - jbigler1986: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:232511
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:18 AM - jbigler1986: Never MG
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:19 AM - Mike Glass: I like hte dremel one thats out there.
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:19 AM - jbigler1986: Yeah but that just cuts into the threads
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:20 AM - jbigler1986: The one i posted makes more of an actual hobb

 

Jun 22, 2015 at 7:21 AM - Mike Kelly: you really just want a lot of points of contact
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:23 AM - jbigler1986: The one i have now is great except it leaves little grooves on the filament which the grabs onto the ptfe tube
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:23 AM - Mike Kelly: that's why i like the bondtech
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:24 AM - jbigler1986: The mk8 style doesnt really do it
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:24 AM - jbigler1986: I broke mine trying to bore it out
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:25 AM - Mike Kelly: http://i.imgur.com/cKY2mgY.gifv whoa
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:32 AM - Mike Kelly: USA jb: http://www.tridprinting.com/Mechanical-Parts/#3D-Printer-Hobbed-Drive-Gear
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:39 AM - jbigler1986: thx. ordered 1
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:46 AM - Mike Glass: just one?
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:46 AM - Mike Kelly:
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:47 AM - jbigler1986: actually 2. lol
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:48 AM - Mike Glass: How many hours did you work on that this weekend?
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:48 AM - jbigler1986: not that much. maybe a total of like 4
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:49 AM - jbigler1986: offset was pissing me off more than anything
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:52 AM - Mike Glass: was that just with the .25 nozzle?
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:53 AM - donhuevo: I realize it's Hong Kong but... http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/141534462390?lpid=82&chn=ps
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:53 AM - jbigler1986: nope. .4 nozzle too
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:55 AM - donhuevo: I like mmmmkay's link better for the hobbed pulley
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:56 AM - jbigler1986: yeah i ordered 2 of those
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:56 AM - donhuevo: good man
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:58 AM - Mike Glass: apestas como cerdo
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:58 AM - jbigler1986: will go direct until i get them
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:59 AM - Mike Glass: Bontech, Bentech
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:59 AM - Mike Glass: You will give in
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:59 AM - jbigler1986: nope
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:00 AM - donhuevo: I still like the idea of mounting the bowden extruder to the shoulder of the lid like Mike's but angle it up so it extrudes from like 8 to 2 back to front
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:01 AM - donhuevo: or 7:30 to 1:30
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:01 AM - Mike Glass: I like 7:45 to 1:45
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:03 AM - donhuevo: as long as it's 7:45 am
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:04 AM - jbigler1986: i prefer pm bc i wouldn't be at work
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:06 AM - Mike Glass: You just need a printer for the office
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:06 AM - jbigler1986: that would be nice
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:07 AM - JeffTheMess: Say goodbye to freedom of speech on the internet smh
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:07 AM - Mike Glass: or at least a doodler pen..lol
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:07 AM - jbigler1986: MG why don't u get a bondtech
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:08 AM - Mike Glass: I have 4
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:09 AM - Mike Glass: they are cheap if you buy more than 100
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM - jbigler1986: then why only 4
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:11 AM - Mike Glass: Thats all I will need this year
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:11 AM - Mike Glass: dual for the MPCNC and Dual for the BAP
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:23 AM - daniel871: Managed to get a clog on the volcano again last night fucking around with laywood and the 1.2mm nozzle. So my evening today will be cleaning that out and putting it back together and just making parts with PET+ or PLA for a while.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:26 AM - Mike Kelly: bummer
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:28 AM - daniel871: At least I'm getting some practice taking it apart, cleaning it and putting it back together.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:29 AM - daniel871: I'm a little disappointed with GlowFill.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:29 AM - Mike Kelly: the red?
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:29 AM - daniel871: The green, haven't tried the red yet.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:30 AM - daniel871: The green sat in direct sunlight all day yesterday and only gave off a dim green glow deep inside the object I printed.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:30 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah i hear printed gitd is pretty bad
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:31 AM - daniel871: Might be okay for a lithophane, but you aren't going to be printing a glow-in-the-dark lantern to hang at the campground or anything.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:31 AM - daniel871: Which sucks because the product pictures made it look like it cast an actual light.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:32 AM - Stephen Capistron: Got a UV flash light?
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:32 AM - daniel871: Nope.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:33 AM - daniel871: If the sunlight we got this last weekend wasn't enough to charge it (not a cloud in the sky, scorching water off of the surface of a car within two minutes of spraying it when washing it), then a little flashlight isn't going to do any good either.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:34 AM - Mike Kelly: timelapse photo
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:35 AM - Mike Glass: maybe is different type of radiation charge it needs. Plotonium? have any that?
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:35 AM - donhuevo: maybe a nice laser
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:36 AM - Stephen Capistron: But did it go from being outside straight into a closet?
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:36 AM - daniel871: Yep.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:36 AM - donhuevo: can you wipe a bunch of lightning bugs' butts on the part?
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:36 AM - daniel871: Dim green glow at the core that faded out to the outer edges.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:37 AM - daniel871: Actual model was that gyro keyring thing PrintedSolid shared for a quick object to print.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:37 AM - Mike Kelly: that thing is fun
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:38 AM - jbigler1986: yeahh i keep messin it
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:38 AM - donhuevo: link?
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:39 AM - daniel871: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:882989
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:39 AM - daniel871: Printed fine for me, other than the glow bit not working.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:40 AM - donhuevo: thank you
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:41 AM - Mike Kelly: i wish the tolerance was a bit tighter but it's still fun
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:41 AM - Mike Glass: print it at .25 or .3
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:42 AM - daniel871: Be cool if it ditched the key loop and was thinner so that you could hold it up and blow thru it to make it spin on the various axes.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:42 AM - Stephen Capistron: model your own
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:42 AM - daniel871: But would probably fly apart at the thickness that would allow human lungs to power it that way.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:43 AM - Mike Glass: grab cad prolly has one you can dl and modify
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:45 AM - daniel871: Hm. I kind of like the idea of this. http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:721685
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:46 AM - daniel871: GreenBean enabled appliances?
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:49 AM - daniel871: Oh, something that will let people burn down their apartment complex remotely by starting the oven while at work.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:55 AM - Stephen Capistron: No. The utility companies will create a shell corporation that will hack in and turn all your appliances on while you aren't home to get those meters spinning
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:01 AM - Mike Kelly: i think you guys need to loosen your tin foil hats a bit
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:03 AM - Shank: what would be the best slicer for dual color?
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:03 AM - Mike Kelly: i prefer cura
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:04 AM - Shank: are you running dual extruders? or just changing it yourself?
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:04 AM - Mike Kelly: i run dual extruders
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:05 AM - Shank: is it easy to set up in cura
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:05 AM - daniel871: I've heard setting up dual extruding is a huge pain.
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:06 AM - Mike Kelly: compared to setting up dual extruders? a toddler could do it
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:06 AM - Stephen Capistron: I don't use tin foil. high quality lead flashing all the way
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:06 AM - donhuevo: I have a small copper faraday cage built into my bike helmet
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:07 AM - Shank: Mk do you have to have 2 stl files like repetier
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:10 AM - donhuevo: oh and I don't have a bike
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:13 AM - Mike Kelly: yes
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:15 AM - Shank: alright thanks
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:16 AM - Mike Kelly: why do you want dual extruders anyways
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:18 AM - Shank: dual color and to keep working on my printer
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:18 AM - Mike Kelly: just be aware most people who go dual extruders regret it
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:19 AM - Shank: if i dont like it i can always go back
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:20 AM - donhuevo: as long as you have a mechanism for independently raising/lowering the nozzle tips so they're exactly the same height off the bed, you should be fine
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:21 AM - Shank: well im looking at using the same nozzel sorta like the cyclops
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:22 AM - Mike Kelly: why not use the cyclops then
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:23 AM - Shank: i probably will in the end..but i wanna try something out first just so i dont have to buy it
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:23 AM - Mike Kelly: uh ok

 

Jun 22, 2015 at 9:24 AM - Shank: yep if i can get the software side to work right it should work
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:35 AM - donhuevo: Cura 15.04 - nothing addressing bridging
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:58 AM - Stephen Capistron: What are you looking for? A speed or acceleration over-speed option?
Jun 22, 2015 at 9:59 AM - donhuevo: it just doesn't seem to recognize when an area needs bridged.
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:00 AM - Stephen Capistron: just use the cura support
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:01 AM - donhuevo: I don't have anything right now that requires it, it's a great slicer otherwise. just irritating they ignored that
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:05 AM - donhuevo: it's shameful what Cura does when it gets to Marvin's crotch.
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:05 AM - Mike Kelly: lol
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:06 AM - Mike Kelly: "i can totally print these circles no problem"
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:07 AM - donhuevo: yep
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:27 AM - Stephen Capistron: Just stumbled upon this directory of CAD models
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:27 AM - Stephen Capistron: http://www.tracepartsonline.net/(S(en0n0nnm1tiitmqvkhsn5ucd))/content.aspx
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:27 AM - Stephen Capistron: some might find it useful for work or play
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:28 AM - Mike Kelly: nice
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:31 AM - Harry: Hey All
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:34 AM - Stephen Capistron: There really is a ton of stuff on traceparts
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:35 AM - JeffTheMess: hi there
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:37 AM - Sims Reaper: So here is some of what I was able to get done this weekend. Didn't have a while lot of time but it's not bad
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:38 AM - Sims Reaper:
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:43 AM - Mike Kelly: nice
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:49 AM - JeffTheMess: pretty nice
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:49 AM - Mike Glass: sweet
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:52 AM - Mike Glass: goes along with this
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:53 AM - Mike Kelly: heh
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:55 AM - donhuevo: so I eliminated the ringing
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:55 AM - Mike Glass: did you plug your ears?
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:55 AM - donhuevo: the faraday cage in the bike helmet did it
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:56 AM - donhuevo: but seriously... the latest speed settings:
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:56 AM - donhuevo: also dropped my acceleration to 500
Jun 22, 2015 at 10:59 AM - Sims Reaper: MG that's a good looking arc reactor. I think I have that same file on the list. Have to test out my transparent ABS filament first.
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:00 AM - Mike Glass: was one of the first things I printed but never fininshed, so got it done a few weeks ago.
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:02 AM - Stephen Capistron: Low acceleration can make for a real bridging challenge
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:03 AM - donhuevo: good point
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:09 AM - Stephen Capistron: This is really where I'd like to see a bridging "feature" that can double or triple the acceleration when bridging and bump up the speed
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:09 AM - donhuevo: seems to be two schools of thought on bridging speed though. Some have better luck bridging slower
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:10 AM - Mike Glass: I would think it depends on how the fan hits the filament, at least with pla.
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:10 AM - Stephen Capistron: I've never really messed around with it. Just assumed faster would be better
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:10 AM - donhuevo: yep
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:10 AM - Stephen Capistron: Though I have seen some videos of really slow bridging
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:11 AM - Mike Glass: slower you would have a thicker base.
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:12 AM - donhuevo: more time for the fan to cool it
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:12 AM - Mike Glass: guess flow rate would control that as well
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:13 AM - Mike Glass: there should be a setting for bridging in the basic software control.
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:14 AM - Mike Kelly: simplify 3d has that bridging feature
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:15 AM - donhuevo: free, free, free, $150. I may have to bite the bullet but haven't been able to make myself yet
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:16 AM - donhuevo: slic3r has great bridging features but sucks ass elsewhere
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:18 AM - Mike Glass: http://www.wired.com/2015/06/18-rotor-volocopter-like-flying-car-better/ yes please
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:20 AM - Stephen Capistron: I made the jump to S3D. The ease with which support is removed really is a miracle of a thing.
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:20 AM - Stephen Capistron: Now I just need a spool of filament that is willing to print well
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:23 AM - donhuevo: I'm liking the Hatchbox PLA so far, granted I only bought black
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:24 AM - donhuevo: the couple times I put a caliper on it, it was 1.74mm
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:24 AM - Mike Kelly: i really want some more of that
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:24 AM - donhuevo: and cheap
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:24 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah the price is great
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:28 AM - Stephen Capistron: I had some sainsmart ABS that printed alright. Then i tried a spool of eSun and it had some bizarely anti-stringing properties
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:29 AM - Mike Kelly: my yellow esun abs isn't anything amazing
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:29 AM - Mike Kelly: the black was pretty good though
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:29 AM - Stephen Capistron: it just printed kind of goopy. I trashed it after half the roll
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:29 AM - Mike Kelly: need to try the purple or natural at some point
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:30 AM - Mike Kelly: i think i'll stick with toybuilderlabs abs
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:30 AM - Stephen Capistron: This is where Printed will remind us that we get what we pay for.
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:31 AM - donhuevo: anyone try the hatchbox abs?
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:31 AM - Stephen Capistron: Not yet. I have a spool coming.
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:32 AM - Mike Glass: I print hatchbox abs
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:33 AM - Mike Glass: prints like gold.
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:33 AM - Mike Glass: doesnt warp as bad as XT did.
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:39 AM - JeffTheMess:
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:45 AM - jbigler1986: Back
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:45 AM - Bill Monroe: I'll put that in the same place as my pyramid hat and my magnet bracelet
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:45 AM - jbigler1986: White esun pla wasnt great
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:45 AM - Bill Monroe: the only white I've had luck with is PC
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:46 AM - jbigler1986: Hatchbox white has been good for me
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:47 AM - Bill Monroe: boss is buying me lunch today.. I wonder if I can find a foodtaster on craigslist?
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:47 AM - jbigler1986: Lol
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:47 AM - jbigler1986: It was nice knowing you Bill
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:47 AM - Bill Monroe: jb, you can have my Robo
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:48 AM - Bill Monroe: if I dont come back
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:48 AM - Mike Glass: screw the robo, take the strat.
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:49 AM - Bill Monroe: I'm taking that with me
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:49 AM - Bill Monroe: it works perfect so, jb would take it apart
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:50 AM - Mike Glass: lol yea nk
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:50 AM - Bill Monroe: bbl
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:50 AM - donhuevo: can't tell you how many times I heard 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it' growing up
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:53 AM - Stephen Capistron: meh
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:53 AM - Mike Kelly: everythings broke if you look hard enough
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:53 AM - Stephen Capistron: I subscribe to the if it ain't broke it doesn't have enough features
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:54 AM - Mike Kelly: what's something fun to print on the 1.6
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:54 AM - donhuevo: I'm compelled to disassemble
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:55 AM - Stephen Capistron: Even the strat doesn't generate it's own power. A small thorium reactor would be a nice upgrade
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:55 AM - Stephen Capistron: The spinning key-chain thing
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:55 AM - Mike Kelly: printed that already
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:56 AM - donhuevo: Yoda
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:56 AM - donhuevo: I know you haven't printed that yet
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:56 AM - Stephen Capistron: One of those printability test structures
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:57 AM - Mike Glass: Print a dickfer
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:57 AM - donhuevo: haha
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:57 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah never printing a yoda\
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:57 AM - Mike Kelly: there's enough of them in the world
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:59 AM - Mike Glass: do the yes/no sign
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:59 AM - Mike Kelly:

 

Jun 22, 2015 at 11:59 AM - Mike Kelly: oh yeah that's a fun one
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:59 AM - daniel871: The Matterhackers Punching machine
Jun 22, 2015 at 11:59 AM - daniel871: Just to give someone an apoplectic fit.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:00 PM - Mike Glass:
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:00 PM - jbigler1986: Bill has already taken it apart for me. But yeah. I probably would
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:01 PM - Mike Glass: that thing is wizzng Mike.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:01 PM - jbigler1986: That matterhackers punch machine should be like politics. Not allowed on here
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:01 PM - daniel871:
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:02 PM - Mike Kelly: print all at once with support or print in pieces?
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:03 PM - Mike Glass: its all one piece
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:03 PM - Mike Kelly: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:760544/#files
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:04 PM - Mike Glass: hmm didnt see that
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:05 PM - Mike Glass: ok, I printed it all as one.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:05 PM - daniel871: I printed that one all as one with 10% support in S3D.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:05 PM - daniel871: Popped support right out.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:06 PM - Mike Glass: There is another one that like this, but cant remember what it said.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:08 PM - Mike Kelly: wish my computer was more capable of handling multiple cameras
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:09 PM - SoLongSidekick: What up guys, long time no see.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:10 PM - daniel871: There is the boob poop machine.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:10 PM - Mike Glass: yea wasnt that one..
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:10 PM - Mike Kelly: hey there sidekick, been a while
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:10 PM - daniel871: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:306139
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:11 PM - SoLongSidekick: How you been bud? Finally started putting my printer back together last night.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:12 PM - SoLongSidekick: Took it apart to install the Robo auto level and drill a counter sink for the E3D v6 fitting and never put it back together.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:22 PM - jbigler1986: What size bolt do i need for this?
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:22 PM - jbigler1986: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:232511
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:23 PM - Stephen Capistron: M8
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:23 PM - Mike Glass: M8
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:24 PM - jbigler1986: 5/16 be good enough if they dont have the right length of M8
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:24 PM - Mike Glass: do you have a tap and die set?
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:24 PM - jbigler1986: Yeah. Cheap one. But it should do
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:32 PM - daniel871: Does anyone else's glass plate visibly flex during the G29 routine?
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:33 PM - donhuevo: yep
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:33 PM - daniel871: Trying to narrow down reasons why my 1st layer adhesion has disappeared this past weekend.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:34 PM - donhuevo: did you mess with your z endstop switches?
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:34 PM - Stephen Capistron: not enough hair spray
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:34 PM - daniel871: Nope.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:34 PM - daniel871: Using a Printinz plate, Stephen.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:34 PM - daniel871: Worked well for about 5 objects.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:34 PM - donhuevo: hot or cold autolevel?
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:34 PM - daniel871: Cold autolevel.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:35 PM - daniel871: Should I have the bed heat up, then autolevel, then heat the nozzle?
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:35 PM - donhuevo: no, it's not that. I've heard that a hot nozzle melts the printinz?
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:36 PM - daniel871: Yeah, I changed my starting G-code to account for that before even doing the first print on it.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:36 PM - daniel871: It runs the G29, then raises up 5mm, then heats up.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:36 PM - daniel871: Then program runs once temps are reached.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:39 PM - donhuevo: I'd say just change your z offset and see how many prints you get before it misbehaves again
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:39 PM - daniel871: It's currently on -1, so -8 or -1.1?
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:39 PM - daniel871: -.9, rather.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:39 PM - donhuevo: yep
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:39 PM - donhuevo: less negative
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:40 PM - daniel871: 'k. I'll give it a shot this evening.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:40 PM - daniel871: Having a hobby toy makes work even more of a drag than usual.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:41 PM - Stephen Capistron: http://www.tridimake.com/2013/03/which-hobbed-bolt-for-filament-feeder.html
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:44 PM - Stephen Capistron: That blog post will keep JB busy for a little while
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:45 PM - Bill Monroe: the glass plate doesnt flex... it's the weak-ass foundation the y-slide is made from bending
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:46 PM - Bill Monroe: oh btw.. I survived
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:47 PM - Bill Monroe: unless he put some of that same stuff the sand snakes in GOT use..
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:47 PM - Bill Monroe: so if I dont start bleeding from every orifice in a few minutes.. I'm OK
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:47 PM - daniel871: It's an optical illusion then, because the corner points look stationary while the glass appears to dip in the center when the touchoff is done there.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:48 PM - donhuevo: I'll have to remember to put a straight edge on my glass the next time it autolevels
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:49 PM - Bill Monroe: it'll do that if it was made with a dish or crown in it
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:49 PM - daniel871: Not much can be done about it other than "buy another one and roll the dice on it being correct", though, right?
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:49 PM - donhuevo: I'll have to remember to put a straight edge on my glass before I autolevel again
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:49 PM - Bill Monroe: i never did like borosilicate for that reason, 3D printing is a tiny markey for them and they core markets dont care about flatness that much
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:50 PM - Bill Monroe: well, you could replace it with another type but you'll have to get it cut and McGyver some heat pads
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:51 PM - Bill Monroe: but you'll still have essentially a stiffy mounted to a trampoline
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:51 PM - donhuevo: and now I'm thinking that somewhere in the vast porn expanse, that's been done
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:52 PM - Bill Monroe: in that expance, I'm sure *everything* has been done
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:52 PM - daniel871: Rule #34 pretty much demands it.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:52 PM - Bill Monroe:
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:52 PM - Stephen Capistron: http://www.mcmaster.com/#8410t51/=xqkw9m
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:52 PM - daniel871: Hell, there's porn about anthropomorphic airplanes having sex while passengers scream in terror. Pretty much anything goes.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:53 PM - Bill Monroe: i had a 14 x 14 piece of neroceram cut for my abs machine
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:53 PM - daniel871: That was a SomethingAwful.com front page Weekend Web thing some time back.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:54 PM - daniel871: 12 x 12 wouldn't fit on the Robo, though.
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:55 PM - Bill Monroe: no, but if you really want to try to improve it, they'll cut it
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:55 PM - Bill Monroe: I'd install supported shafts for the slides first, but then it'll get way long
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:56 PM - daniel871: Support for the Y-axis?
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:56 PM - Mike Kelly: cincinnati gasket and industrial glass will cut any shape you desire
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:57 PM - Stephen Capistron: even mic6 is only ground to a flatness of about .4mm
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:58 PM - Bill Monroe: like these Dan: http://www.mcmaster.com/#linear-shafts/=xqkyv5
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:59 PM - daniel871: Hey MK, would your Y-axis remix apply here, or is it much the same as what is already on the R1? http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:681894
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:59 PM - Bill Monroe: but it's kinda of a waste of time on the plastic base
Jun 22, 2015 at 12:59 PM - Mike Kelly: it's what's on the R1
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:00 PM - Stephen Capistron: Switch the plastic to the duct tape of building material, MDF
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:01 PM - daniel871: What about having the end pieces made out of a metal like Aluminum in a lost-wax die process or something like it?
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:02 PM - daniel871: Or is the problem the support bars?
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:02 PM - daniel871: Or rather the sliding bars like Bill linked?
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:03 PM - Stephen Capistron: Ideally the rods are fixed and the pillow blocks / bearings move
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:03 PM - Stephen Capistron: allows for the rods to be nicely supported at their ends
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:03 PM - Stephen Capistron: is it worth it on a machine like the robo? That is debatable
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:04 PM - Mike Glass: but your still attached to plastic, unles you replace the plate on the robo.
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:05 PM - daniel871: It would be neat to have this kind of rail on the actual travel though. http://www.mcmaster.com/#linear-shafts/=xql1mf
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:05 PM - Mike Glass: mine is stock and keeping it that way, works beautifully.
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:06 PM - Stephen Capistron: Where is your fix it until it is broken spirit?
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:07 PM - Mike Glass: its been broken plenty, but put quality parts on it this time.
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:16 PM - daniel871: So pillow blocks made out of something better than (what is the current material, ABS?) would be better?
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:22 PM - Mike Kelly: not intrinsically
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:22 PM - Mike Glass: maybe something like this http://www.amazon.com/SCS8UU-Linear...435004543&sr=8-1&keywords=block+bearing+lm8uu

 

Jun 22, 2015 at 1:24 PM - daniel871: Looking at that, I'm wondering why they didn't just use something like that to start with.
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:24 PM - Mike Glass: cost for one, for crying out loud they use to use drawer slides.
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:25 PM - Mike Kelly: it's hard to sell a printer for 700 and have money left over to run a business
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:27 PM - daniel871: Could always take a page from Tiko and run endless kickstarters.
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:28 PM - daniel871: And make up press releases about prototype testing and stuff.
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:30 PM - Mike Glass: Im sure mike will never see his Tiko
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:31 PM - Mike Kelly: i'm sadistic in that i hope they're just awful
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:34 PM - daniel871: I'll be honest, I signed up to be notified when orders will be taken just because a toy printer for $180 that will make 4.75" cubes will be funny to have.
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:34 PM - daniel871: Also another source on those bearings. http://www.amazon.com/SCS8UU-Linear...sbs_328_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1TVVQFYVR63P31B0FVMV
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:34 PM - daniel871: Pack of 4 for $12.
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:40 PM - daniel871: Also because I'm interested in how that filament loading mechanism will work.
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:44 PM - Mike Kelly: on the tiko?
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:45 PM - daniel871: Yeah, their videos are very "It's magic! Just drop the spool in and go!"
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:48 PM - daniel871:
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:49 PM - Mike Kelly: dramatization i'm sure
Jun 22, 2015 at 1:49 PM - daniel871:
Jun 22, 2015 at 2:14 PM - Mike Kelly: forgot to enable the cooling fan, looks like it lifted...
Jun 22, 2015 at 2:30 PM - JimBlue: howdee !
Jun 22, 2015 at 2:31 PM - JimBlue: Any place I can get clips to lock the x-axis switches into place ? Or do I have to download and print them myself ?
Jun 22, 2015 at 2:33 PM - JimBlue: Does anyone have the stl file ? Or know where I can download it ?
Jun 22, 2015 at 2:42 PM - Sims Reaper: Has anyone heard about the new Simplify3d version?
Jun 22, 2015 at 2:44 PM - Sims Reaper: was reading on reddit that Simplify 3D v3 is now available and has numerous perks and fixes, including various infill patterns, such as honeycomb, as well as new printer profiles and save fixes
Jun 22, 2015 at 2:45 PM - Mike Kelly: oh snap
Jun 22, 2015 at 2:45 PM - JimBlue: Sorry, I snuck in...
Jun 22, 2015 at 2:46 PM - JimBlue:
Jun 22, 2015 at 2:52 PM - Mike Kelly: downloading now
Jun 22, 2015 at 2:52 PM - Mike Kelly: clips to lock the x axis switch in place?
Jun 22, 2015 at 2:55 PM - Sims Reaper: MK, I think Jim is talking about a pic that dan (i think it was dan) posted a while ago regarding his z-axis micro switches. He had 3d printed some clips or guides to prevent the microswitches from turning out. I just took a quick look, so cant help much. Does this sound right Jim?
Jun 22, 2015 at 2:56 PM - Sims Reaper: Also I cant wait to see what you think of the new S3D version Mike, I'm back stuck at work so I wont have the time for a few days
Jun 22, 2015 at 2:58 PM - JimBlue: Yes, the clips he posted. I think it was Dan.
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:00 PM - Mike Kelly: rectilinear, grid, triangular, wiggle, fast honeycomb, and full honeycomb are the new infill options
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:02 PM - Stephen Capistron: I wonder if the raft is any better?
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:03 PM - Mike Kelly: oh neat they added ooze shield
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:03 PM - Stephen Capistron: Simple vertical or does it follow the contour?
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:05 PM - Mike Glass: Version 2.2.1 Several raft changes to improve separation and ensure proper placement
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:06 PM - Mike Kelly: there 3 options
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:06 PM - Mike Kelly: waterfall vertical and contour
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:07 PM - Mike Glass: hmm no change log for version 3
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:13 PM - Printed Solid: I've been told something is happening tomorrow.
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:16 PM - Printed Solid: lol. now I see that something leaked on reddit. was behind the conversation a bit.
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:16 PM - Printed Solid: Looks like they pulled it back though. I can't find it on the site.
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:21 PM - Mike Kelly: not sure whats different between contoured and waterfall
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:24 PM - Mike Kelly: ok i figured it out
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:31 PM - Mike Glass: Mike just downloaded it. https://cloud.simplify3d.com/account/upgrade
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:32 PM - Stephen Capistron: Are you hacking into their system?
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:42 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah they have you log in to get it now
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:42 PM - Mike Kelly: and also make an account
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:45 PM - Stephen Capistron: Essentially force you into forum membership
Jun 22, 2015 at 3:53 PM - JimBlue: as long as they don't tell any yetis where you are, forum reg should be safe.
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:19 PM - jbigler1986: What up
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:28 PM - JimBlue: howdee
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:28 PM - JimBlue: just old boring me
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:37 PM - jbigler1986: I see
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:37 PM - JimBlue: my z-axis is acting up again... I'll have to realign it
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:41 PM - JimBlue: I'm thinking about taking up hiking again.
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:43 PM - JimBlue: Is that too werd ?
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:43 PM - JimBlue: too weird to be talked about here is what I mean.
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:45 PM - JimBlue: how are things with you ?
Jun 22, 2015 at 4:56 PM - jbigler1986: Good. Need to reinstall my direct drive so i can print some parts for work. Also waiting on new drive gear
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:43 PM - jbigler1986: I think part of the issue is that the drive gear is to far towards the filament. Gonna modify the extruder a little so i can move the stepper to the left slightly
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:44 PM - Mike Kelly: well i got the stripped screw out of the robostein thanks to the dremel
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:44 PM - Mike Kelly: and put on a new connector so hopefully the thermistor isn't jumping around
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:44 PM - jbigler1986: Its putting pressure on the filament without the idler on at all
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:44 PM - jbigler1986: How bad was it jumping around
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:45 PM - Mike Kelly: enough to trigger temp fall errors
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:45 PM - jbigler1986: Shitty
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:45 PM - Mike Kelly: yup
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:46 PM - jbigler1986: Hopefully just boring out the screw holes so i can move it over slighty will do the trick
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:46 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:46 PM - jbigler1986: Probably why its cutting into the filament
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:47 PM - jbigler1986: We will see in a little bit
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:48 PM - Stephen Capistron: I'm surprised you don't have a set of easy outs
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:48 PM - Stephen Capistron: Or left hand drill bits
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:48 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah me too
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:48 PM - Stephen Capistron: Amazon will be more than happy to take your money
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:49 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah i definitely considered that
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:49 PM - Mike Kelly: first time i've stripped a stainless screw
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:49 PM - Stephen Capistron: A hex grade 8?
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:49 PM - Mike Kelly: nope
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:50 PM - Mike Kelly: also i think grade 8 is hardened steel
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:50 PM - Stephen Capistron: by hex i mean shcs
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:50 PM - Mike Kelly: i know
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:50 PM - Mike Kelly: it was a phillips
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:50 PM - Mike Kelly: i did replace it with a shcs though
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:50 PM - Mike Kelly: if that helps
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:51 PM - Stephen Capistron: that will
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:51 PM - Stephen Capistron: I just looked. McMaster does not sell metric 17-4 hardened screws
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:57 PM - Mike Kelly: i need to think of something to print on the rep2
Jun 22, 2015 at 5:58 PM - Mike Kelly: ok so in webcam viewer i'm able to have 3 cameras going at once
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:18 PM - jbigler1986: What is the gcode to exteude cold
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:19 PM - jbigler1986: M302?
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:19 PM - Stephen Capistron: M302
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:20 PM - Stephen Capistron: M302 P1
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:21 PM - jbigler1986: So P1 to allow then P0 to disable it
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:23 PM - Stephen Capistron: i believe so
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:35 PM - Montravont: New PrintinZ plate = Win
Jun 22, 2015 at 6:36 PM - Montravont: now that I got my system recalibrated for the difference in height and got the code switched to cold level... AB-F'n-S is just ABS
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:03 PM - Mike Kelly: i wish print one at a time would let you print a tall object last
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:07 PM - Mike Kelly: jb i think that red abs you bought was not so good
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:07 PM - Montravont: can't choose the print order?

 

Jun 22, 2015 at 7:11 PM - Mike Glass: doesnt it do left to right first?
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:12 PM - Mike Kelly: i couldn't figure out a way
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:16 PM - jbigler1986: Moved the stepper over a tiny bit. Seems good. Havent ran a test lrint just yet
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:16 PM - Montravont: setup a different process for each one?
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:16 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah i can probably set up something in simplify3d
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:16 PM - Mike Kelly: wish cura could do it easier though
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:17 PM - Montravont: ahhhh
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:17 PM - Montravont: didn't realize you were trying to do it in Cura
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:18 PM - Mike Glass: Your printing is super fast now Mike, Like it.
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:20 PM - Montravont: what speed are you running at Mike?
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:22 PM - daniel871: I cant catch an fn break. The heater on my spare volcano doesnt work.
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:22 PM - jbigler1986: Wtf. Go back to the v6 for now
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:23 PM - jbigler1986: Regroup
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:23 PM - Mike Kelly: eh?
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:23 PM - Mike Glass: not sure how your burning up a heater.
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:23 PM - daniel871: It was a new heater, never used.
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:23 PM - daniel871: Two completely different volcano assemblies.
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:24 PM - daniel871: One clogged on laywood last night. Swapped for the second today and temp reports stay at room temp. No errors.
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:25 PM - daniel871: Just sits there and never heats up.
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:26 PM - Mike Glass: odd
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:29 PM - Mike Kelly: i'm printing at 90 on the robostein and 50 on 1.6
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:29 PM - Mike Kelly: 80 on the rep2
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:29 PM - Montravont: nice. I've been running 90 on average lately
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:30 PM - Montravont: the stamps for my wife's soaps I run at around 120 because they're pretty flat
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:38 PM - Mike Glass: Im running 10.2 on my cnc..lol
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:39 PM - Mike Kelly: .2?
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:40 PM - daniel871: Every little bit helps.
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:40 PM - Mike Glass: I have no Idea, thats the program default
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:41 PM - Mike Glass: works good for plywood
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:52 PM - jbigler1986: where is don
Jun 22, 2015 at 7:52 PM - jbigler1986: or maybe MK you can help
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:08 PM - jbigler1986: Fucking offset man. Ugh
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:09 PM - Montravont: If MK can't help... you're basically screwed =p
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:09 PM - Montravont: what's the issue with your offset?
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:10 PM - jbigler1986: Adjustment just arent saving.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:10 PM - Montravont: what program are you using?
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:10 PM - Montravont: and which offset method?
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:11 PM - jbigler1986: M565
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:11 PM - jbigler1986: I can go from z-.70 to z-.50 with no difference
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:11 PM - Montravont: ahh.. I've never had much luck with getting M565 to land where I want
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:11 PM - Montravont: I use the old method.. works like a charm for me
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:12 PM - Montravont: http://community.robo3d.com/index.php?threads/entering-your-z-offset-in-mattercontrol.2595/
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:12 PM - Mike Glass: haha MC
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:13 PM - Montravont: yeah.. code still applies though
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:13 PM - Montravont: does anyone still actually use MC at all? Does it still ship with it?
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:15 PM - Mike Glass: unfortunatly it ship with it still.
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:15 PM - Montravont: blehk
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:16 PM - Mike Glass: some how they are in bed together, MC will probably buy robo our luck
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:16 PM - Montravont: gross
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:25 PM - Mike Glass: just cut this out
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:25 PM - jbigler1986: Offset decided it wanted to stick after 3 days of dicking with it
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:25 PM - jbigler1986: Looks great
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:26 PM - Montravont: Niice
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:27 PM - Mike Glass: just finished this up yesterday. selling it with a 6ft poster
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:28 PM - Mike Glass: can be used for a giant guitar pick also..heh
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:30 PM - Montravont: haha
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:41 PM - Mike Glass: Did you get it figured out JB?
Jun 22, 2015 at 8:58 PM - Montravont: I believe he did

 

Jun 23, 2015 at 3:32 AM - Bill Monroe: gooood morning
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:02 AM - jbigler1986: Morning
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:38 AM - Shank: Morning
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:42 AM - jbigler1986: how is everyone
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:43 AM - Shank: Good you
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:43 AM - jbigler1986: good
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:43 AM - Shank: descided to go back to the stock e3d last night
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:43 AM - jbigler1986: Bill do you think dual direct drive is to much weight? I know I would have to print slow
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:43 AM - jbigler1986: What was the issue
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:45 AM - Shank: still couldnt get the temp undercontrol when running fans. i have a 40w heater coming in soon so that might fix it.
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:45 AM - Shank: to steppers on the x-carriage would be alot of weight, why not go bowden?
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:48 AM - Shank: two*
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:49 AM - jbigler1986: i have bowden setup right now. it's been a bitch
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:50 AM - Shank: two direct drives has to be fun trying to wire on the x-carriage
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:51 AM - jbigler1986: not really much different than dual bowden
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:51 AM - jbigler1986: just the steppers
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:53 AM - Shank: you have a wire carriage on yours dont you
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:55 AM - jbigler1986: what do you mean by that
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:59 AM - Shank: cable chai
Jun 23, 2015 at 4:59 AM - Shank: chain*
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:00 AM - jbigler1986: no. i do not like those. i like to have flexible wiring
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:01 AM - Bill Monroe: ya, if you put two steppers on the same carriage, it's a lot of weight.. at best you'll need to slow things way down
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:01 AM - Bill Monroe: and it doesnt solve the three dual nozzle problems
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:02 AM - jbigler1986: i was just curious. probably won't venture out to that.
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:03 AM - jbigler1986: done with bowden. jamming up for god only knows why
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:04 AM - jbigler1986: z offset decided to start working again after 3 days
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:08 AM - Bill Monroe: I rigged up two carriages on the same axis slides, that works pretty good
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:08 AM - jbigler1986: with 1 belt?
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:09 AM - Bill Monroe: just d/l'd the new S3D.. hexegon fill! cant wait to try it
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:09 AM - Bill Monroe: no, two NEMA 23 motors
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:09 AM - jbigler1986: look at u. nema 23's
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:10 AM - Bill Monroe: i got a pile of them so...
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:11 AM - jbigler1986: going with 1.75 or 3mm filament for the new printer?
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:12 AM - Bill Monroe: ive got some 14s on the way, lighter than 17s running on 24V they should be find for the extruders
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:12 AM - Bill Monroe: gunna use 17s for the X carriages, 23s for the Y
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:14 AM - Shank: do you have to buy a stepper driver for dual?
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:14 AM - Bill Monroe: yup every axis needs one
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:15 AM - Shank: i didnt remeber if the board already came full or not
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:16 AM - Bill Monroe: on the robo?
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:16 AM - Shank: ya
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:16 AM - Bill Monroe: you cant bet it didnt
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:17 AM - Shank: i probably should order one then
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:17 AM - Shank: i wonder if i can pull one off of my trashed delta
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:18 AM - Bill Monroe: does it have a ramps?
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:18 AM - Shank: yep
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:18 AM - Bill Monroe: good chance then
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:20 AM - Shank: i have this beautiful POS printer at home
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:21 AM - mark tomlinson: Actually, my beta came with two extruder stepper drivers. Not sure tha this is the norm.
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:21 AM - Shank: https://www.3dprintersonlinestore.com/delta-3d-printer-kit?search=delta
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:21 AM - Shank: i could never get it to work
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:22 AM - Bill Monroe: it does look nice
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:24 AM - Bill Monroe: i cant imagine robo intentionally providing a driver for an unused axis... doesnt seem to fit the "make it as cheap as possible" deal
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:24 AM - Shank: it looks like a great printer just cant get it to work. i worked with the tech department they had for two months and in the end they told me to pay for shipping and send it back to them and they would try and fix it.
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:24 AM - Bill Monroe: interesting.. there's not much too them, it would be fun to debug
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:25 AM - Shank: $200 one way ya no thanks i will just use it as a paper wait
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:26 AM - Bill Monroe: ive got a vid of one I made to sort and pack bagels in 2001, but it's on VHS
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:26 AM - Bill Monroe: i really need to throw something together to copy it to dvd
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:27 AM - Shank: o VHS how i dont miss them
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:28 AM - Bill Monroe: heck, i've got stuff on 8mm film!
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:29 AM - Stephen Capistron: no kodachrome?
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:29 AM - jbigler1986: 1 more possible fix for this bowden
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:31 AM - jbigler1986: ptfe may be getting pinched in the extruder. i can't push it all the through close to the drive gear. it gets stuck on something. So that may be the issue. Not a straight clean feed
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:31 AM - Stephen Capistron: like a dog with a bone
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:31 AM - Bill Monroe: i dunno what this film is called.. let me see if it says on the box
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:32 AM - Stephen Capistron: it might actually be kodachrome. I know it changed over the years, but it was introduced in the 30s and only recently discontinued
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:33 AM - jbigler1986: i will drill out the hole for the ptfe tube so it can get pushed up close to the drive gear. see if that fixes it. my last shot at trying to figure it out
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:36 AM - jbigler1986: for the time being. need to print some stuff
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:36 AM - Bill Monroe: yup, some of them even say kodachrome II
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:36 AM - Bill Monroe:
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:37 AM - Shank: nice
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:37 AM - jbigler1986: Bill are you half retired now? I feel like you never go to work anymore. lol
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:37 AM - Bill Monroe:
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:38 AM - Bill Monroe: i have a liberal presence requirement
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:38 AM - Bill Monroe: I split time between san diego and joshua tree
Jun 23, 2015 at 5:39 AM - Bill Monroe: I've got contractors doing work in my lab right now so, Joshua Tree is my hangout for the moment
Jun 23, 2015 at 6:37 AM - Shank: daniel you on?
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:07 AM - jbigler1986: Volcano talk.
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:10 AM - jbigler1986: strawberry shortcake (not the food)
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:11 AM - Shank: what
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:11 AM - jbigler1986: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Strawberry+Shortcake
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:12 AM - Shank: hahaha on works computer urban dictionary is blocked
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:13 AM - jbigler1986: The action in which the male ejaculates on his partner's face, and then the male punches his partner's nose, which causes blood to stream forth. The semen and blood fluids create a red and white image, just like the icing and filling of a strawberry shortcake.
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:13 AM - Shank: are you bored...
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:14 AM - jbigler1986: a little
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:15 AM - Shank: noticed...why does it say 0 members are in chat
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:16 AM - jbigler1986: it was disabled bc it was constantly changing
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:16 AM - Bill Monroe: lord know we cant tolerate change
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:16 AM - jbigler1986: members online now will give you a rough idea
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:16 AM - jbigler1986: change? what is that
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:17 AM - Shank: how staight does the ptfe tubing need to be in a bowden system>
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:17 AM - daniel871: I'm on-and-off-again while working on stuff.
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:18 AM - jbigler1986: well i was refering to where it actually goes from the bodwen adapter up to the drive gear
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:19 AM - jbigler1986: that part you want as straight as possible and as close to the drive gear as you can get
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:19 AM - Sims Reaper: Good morning Gentlemen
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:19 AM - Shank: well im wondering if i put a y connector in it if the filament will have problems making the turn
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:19 AM - jbigler1986: yeah it probably will
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:20 AM - Shank: hum then my idea might not work
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:20 AM - jbigler1986: doesn't like sharp turns
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:22 AM - Shank: i could print a y connector with a relaxed angle
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:23 AM - Sims Reaper: Have to thank everyone on this forum for the help and tips they've put up here. Got my buildtak before expected yesterday, threw it on and made the g-code changes suggested here and first print went without a hitch.

 

Jun 23, 2015 at 7:23 AM - Sims Reaper: Have to get a new scraper for it I think. Or grind down the edges on the on I have
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:24 AM - jbigler1986: idk why everyone is going with that unless printing with abs
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:27 AM - Stephen Capistron: no hairspray, no bed cleaning, option to go to a prox sensor
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:27 AM - Stephen Capistron: it is all tempting
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:27 AM - daniel871: That 3d printer store site someone linked earlier is funny.
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:28 AM - Stephen Capistron: It really isn't that great for big ABS stuff because it is too flexible itself
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:28 AM - daniel871: https://www.3dprintersonlinestore.com/3d-printers/he-3d-multi-color-3d-printer
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:28 AM - jbigler1986: no cleaning?
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:28 AM - Stephen Capistron: all the slow boat printers
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:28 AM - Stephen Capistron: There is nothing to clean
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:29 AM - daniel871: 3 extruders! Razors with more blades are better, so printers with more extruders are better! We have 3, that's 1 better than 2!
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:29 AM - daniel871: (Not literally what is on there, but still)
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:29 AM - jbigler1986: no cleaning due to cold autolevel. but skirts and such you would still need to
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:29 AM - daniel871: The "This offer ends in" countdown thing is the funniest bit.
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:30 AM - Sims Reaper: And I am printing ABS almost exclusively
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:31 AM - jbigler1986: cold autolevel you also have to make sure the nozzle is clean
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:31 AM - Shank: does anyone have a blower on there printer?
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:31 AM - Bill Monroe: yes
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:31 AM - Shank: do you like it?
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:31 AM - Shank: is it loud?
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:31 AM - Bill Monroe: works for me
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:31 AM - Bill Monroe: no.. centrifugal
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:32 AM - Shank: you get it from amazon?
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:33 AM - jbigler1986: Bill likes it to sound like a plane since he is use to that anyways
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:33 AM - Bill Monroe: no, harvested from obsolete machine
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:33 AM - Bill Monroe: varooom!
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:34 AM - Shank: why doesnt he use a rc turbine engine then
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:34 AM - Bill Monroe:
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:34 AM - Bill Monroe: i quit playing with toys decades ago
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:35 AM - jbigler1986: where are you on the concrete printer? better be in alpha testing my middle of July
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:35 AM - Bill Monroe: heh i got other things to acomplish before that
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:35 AM - jbigler1986: not allowed
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:35 AM - Bill Monroe: tell that to 2.0
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:36 AM - jbigler1986: ok. email?
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:36 AM - Bill Monroe:
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:36 AM - jbigler1986: nvm. that would be weird
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:37 AM - daniel871: "Hey, 2.0, Bill needs to work on an improved Laybrick filament for 3d printers so please stop distracting him."
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:37 AM - Bill Monroe: i'm building her some raised bed garden space next
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:38 AM - Bill Monroe: heh she'd have to never walk into the room to keep from distracting me
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:38 AM - daniel871: Oh yeah, has anybody tested Laybrick in the Robo yet?
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:39 AM - Mike Kelly: mornin
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:39 AM - jbigler1986: goodnight
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:39 AM - Shank: Morning
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:41 AM - jbigler1986: JK. Morning MK
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:43 AM - Mike Kelly: i tried that red you sent me jb
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:43 AM - Mike Kelly: definitely not the best material
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:43 AM - Mike Kelly: i can see why you struggled so much
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:43 AM - jbigler1986: that's bc it's abs
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:43 AM - Mike Kelly: ABS is not all made equal
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:43 AM - jbigler1986: i barely used the red. the others pissed me off enough
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:43 AM - Mike Kelly: it's actually a combination of 3 materials
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:44 AM - Mike Kelly: so the ratio affects quality
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:44 AM - jbigler1986: i'm about to dropkick bowden
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:45 AM - Mike Kelly: lol
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:45 AM - Mike Kelly: to quote JB "Never again"
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:45 AM - jbigler1986: yeah. i have said that once or twice
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:47 AM - Stephen Capistron: Ever try any of the EasyFil ABS?
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:49 AM - Mike Kelly: nope
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:51 AM - Stephen Capistron: I know they have a PC blend that you really want though
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:51 AM - Mike Kelly: nice
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:52 AM - Mike Kelly: i really need to test the protopasta sample i have
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:52 AM - Mike Kelly: need to find something worthy of making
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:52 AM - Stephen Capistron: With a PC blend? hmmm
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:53 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:53 AM - Stephen Capistron: Housing for the bondtech
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:53 AM - Mike Kelly: i think i want to use it to make an adapter for my heater to use that as a heated enclosure source
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:54 AM - Mike Kelly: i still don't fully understand the allure of wood fills
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:54 AM - daniel871: That JustABS stuff did fairly well when I played with it. Pretty much what you'd expect from the JustX brand.
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:54 AM - Stephen Capistron: Going with a space heater / heat gun approach or heat lamps
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:55 AM - daniel871: The woodfills are basically so you can print something that might be too difficult to CNC in wood, or with a 3dPrinter that is substantially cheaper than the equivalent CNC to make the same part.
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:55 AM - daniel871: Sandable/paintable/stainable, too.
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:55 AM - Mike Kelly: i guess would someone mistake it for wood
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:55 AM - daniel871: Or at least that's what the local hobby printer groups on FB are doing with it.
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:58 AM - daniel871: Pieces I've printed prior to the recent problems seemed like MDF in terms of weight/consistency/etc.
Jun 23, 2015 at 7:58 AM - Stephen Capistron: One thought I had with regards to a heated build chamber was a programed cooling rate at the end of the print.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:00 AM - Stephen Capistron: Don't just cut the heat and let it crash to RT, let it cool down slowly, a degree a minute or something like that
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:00 AM - Mike Kelly: i'd need a secondary controller for that
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:00 AM - Mike Kelly: or at least a different one
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:01 AM - Mike Kelly: i'm kinda worried about using convective heating
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:03 AM - jbigler1986: how warm does it get inside the enclosure?
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:03 AM - Stephen Capistron: If you were on a single extruder setup you could use the second extruder output
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:03 AM - daniel871: Would a well insulated chamber not work just as well?
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:03 AM - Stephen Capistron: just the enclosure you can get a 20C bump
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:04 AM - Mike Kelly: i wonder if the heater controller i have can take external setpoints
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:04 AM - jbigler1986: think 100C would be enough to keep abs from warping
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:05 AM - Stephen Capistron: In my foam box I have had as high as 25C over ambient, and that is with a small opening along the bottom front edge
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:05 AM - Mike Kelly: 100C you'd be keeping ABS right below it's glass transition
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:05 AM - daniel871: That's what I mean, make sure the edges of the enclosure are sealing up well (go full redneck and put some one-sided tape weather stripping around the opening that's about 1/16" thick) and then figure out how to seal/insulate the slit in the top.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:05 AM - Mike Kelly: when i was printing in a 10C garage I'd measure 40C above the carriage with a thermocouple
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:05 AM - Mike Kelly: i'd need to measure it now that my garage is 30C
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:06 AM - jbigler1986: so 60C should be enough
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:06 AM - jbigler1986: would that melt PLA parts?
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:06 AM - Mike Kelly: yes
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:06 AM - Stephen Capistron: They would get soft
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:06 AM - jbigler1986: booooo
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:06 AM - Mike Kelly: well keep it at the Tg
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:06 AM - Stephen Capistron: PETG / XL / whatever would be fine
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:06 AM - daniel871: That's what I mean about simply insulating the chamber so that the heat put off by the extruder and build plate stay in the chamber.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:07 AM - daniel871: I've noticed the room I have the printer in would get fairly warm over the course of a few hours when I was printing PET+ stuff.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:07 AM - daniel871: (granted, it's a small room, but still)

 

Jun 23, 2015 at 8:07 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah my garage definitely picks up some of that heat
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:07 AM - jbigler1986: used my dremel on my extruder last night. smelled so good
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:08 AM - Mike Kelly: but the point of a heated enclosure is to control it at a higher temperature
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:08 AM - Mike Kelly: 80C is generally a good target
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:08 AM - Mike Kelly: you can do 100C if everything is watercooled
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:08 AM - daniel871: That's why I'm wondering how rapidly the build chamber temp would go up if you just insulated the chamber.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:09 AM - jbigler1986: takes a while
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:09 AM - Stephen Capistron: http://www.empiremagnetics.com/prod_high-temperature/high-temperature-stepper-motors.htm
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:09 AM - jbigler1986: hell my up mini you needed to let sit for like 20 minutes to get good and warm
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:09 AM - daniel871: Oooh
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:10 AM - Mike Kelly: i bet that's cheap stephen
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:11 AM - Stephen Capistron:
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:11 AM - Stephen Capistron: http://www.phytron-elektronik.de/antrieb/index.php?Set_ID=160&part_ID=1
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:11 AM - Stephen Capistron: ^ even better
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:11 AM - Stephen Capistron: vacuum sealed for use in space
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:11 AM - Mike Kelly: i bet that's what they used on the space shuttle
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:12 AM - Stephen Capistron: those SS bodies would hold up to the acetone vapor in the chamber too
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:13 AM - Mike Kelly: oh yeah!
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:14 AM - daniel871: Man, you have to have an account to get prices.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:14 AM - jbigler1986: they look awesome too
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:14 AM - Mike Kelly: agreed
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:16 AM - Stephen Capistron: 1k each?
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:16 AM - Mike Kelly: i'd guess probably half that
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:17 AM - jbigler1986: 389 is my guess
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:20 AM - daniel871: So many options.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:20 AM - Stephen Capistron: they also sell arduino's which I find hilarious
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:20 AM - daniel871: But yeah, already $1,200 without even considering the other options here.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:21 AM - daniel871: Maybe if you were making a super reprap or something and selling it.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:22 AM - daniel871:
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:22 AM - Stephen Capistron: You mean a stras
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:23 AM - jbigler1986: was that with just 1?
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:23 AM - jbigler1986: screw that
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:23 AM - Stephen Capistron: ha, and those are the "crappy" high temp black ones. I'm starting to think those SS vacuum insulated ones are closer to 10k
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:25 AM - Mike Kelly: christ
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:25 AM - daniel871: Yeah, just the one.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:25 AM - Mike Kelly: i forget how expensive stuff is for made for space
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:25 AM - daniel871: Apparently when you order you're paying for a production run rather than a part on a shelf.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:25 AM - jbigler1986: custom made
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:26 AM - daniel871: custom made off of a predetermined checklist.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:26 AM - jbigler1986: any sites out there that will let you customized the ID and OD of ptfe
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:26 AM - Mike Kelly: almost nothing industrial you buy is off the shelf
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:26 AM - Mike Kelly: it's really annoying
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:27 AM - Stephen Capistron: how many feet do you want JB?
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:27 AM - Mike Kelly: 4-6 weeks lead time at any given moment
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:27 AM - Stephen Capistron: Can get whatever you want so long as you hit the minimum order quantity
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:27 AM - jbigler1986: like 5 or so
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:28 AM - jbigler1986: curious to see if ID of like 2.5 will help
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:28 AM - Stephen Capistron: A lot of people I have worked with in the past just have no concept of how long it can take to make stuff
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:28 AM - Mike Kelly: my boss is that kind of person
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:28 AM - daniel871: The bit where they apparently don't keep any inventory of things they offer for sale is a little weird though.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:29 AM - jbigler1986: don't want to sit on inventory they will never sell
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:29 AM - jbigler1986: makes sense
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:29 AM - Mike Kelly: ^
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:29 AM - Stephen Capistron: exactly
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:29 AM - Stephen Capistron: that is a lot of capital to just have sitting on a shelf
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:30 AM - Mike Kelly: better to keep that capital in a bank account earning interest than collecting dust
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:31 AM - Mike Kelly: should i buy some Blue PLA or PET
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:31 AM - daniel871: PET
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:31 AM - jbigler1986: if you are paying that much for a stepper you can probably afford to wait on the time to make it too
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:32 AM - Stephen Capistron: no way
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:32 AM - Stephen Capistron: boss always wants it yesterday
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:32 AM - daniel871: Nah, if I'm paying tons of money for something that isn't literally a from scratch design, that shit better be in inventory.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:32 AM - jbigler1986: that's what they say but they know that's not gonna happen
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:33 AM - jbigler1986: your business would go bankrupt daniel
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:33 AM - daniel871: The business I work for is doing pretty well doing that, actually.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:33 AM - Stephen Capistron: med device world is that way
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:33 AM - jbigler1986: high demand for that stuff though
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:33 AM - Stephen Capistron: It is not uncommon to have millions of dollars sitting around in a warehouse
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:34 AM - daniel871: Hell, one product line gets at best a two-week ship lead time from the date of inspection to design parts.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:34 AM - daniel871: (typically 3 days in practice)
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:34 AM - jbigler1986: 5k steppers not so much
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:35 AM - daniel871: And this is $20,000 kits for rebuilding suction rolls in paper making machinery, not rinky-dink stepper motors that are made out of slightly better temperature enduring materials.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:35 AM - Mike Kelly: i dunno i'm used to nothing being in stock
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:35 AM - Mike Kelly: we buy a lot of made to order though
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:35 AM - Stephen Capistron: ^ same
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:35 AM - jbigler1986: med device world knows they will sell it it eventually. its a world all of its own
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:36 AM - daniel871: Paper industry is always consuming everything, too, so there is that as well.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:36 AM - daniel871: Half the business is keeping a ready supply of stock material ready to make the custom parts.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:37 AM - Stephen Capistron: stuff does go obsolete
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:38 AM - jbigler1986: not for a long time. poor countries will swipe up that kind of stuff
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:38 AM - daniel871: Paper industry isn't going anywhere soon though. It does a lot more than people think about than just regular old paper.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:39 AM - daniel871: Found out about a woven machine that was repurposed to make woven kevlar sheets a week or so ago. Someone is going to have a lot of bullet-resistant cloth on their hands before long.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:40 AM - Mike Kelly: i wish the paper industry would go away
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:40 AM - jbigler1986: paper industry has taken a hit due to digital world
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:40 AM - Mike Kelly: also the synthetic silk looks interesting
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:40 AM - daniel871: Say goodbye to all non-crate shipping materials then.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:40 AM - Stephen Capistron: tell that to xerox
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:41 AM - daniel871: It took a hit, but diversified pretty quickly.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:42 AM - daniel871: Most of the mills that were experimenting anyway went into making really off the wall stuff like drop-in ceiling tiles and fiberglass sheets.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:42 AM - Stephen Capistron: MK, you'd like some of the stuff this guy has done > http://engineering.tufts.edu/research/profiles/kaplan.htm
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:42 AM - daniel871: (that weren't already doing it)
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:43 AM - Mike Kelly: that's sweet
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:43 AM - Stephen Capistron: He has a side business i believe i just can't remember the name of it
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:44 AM - Stephen Capistron: I just remember it as "some dude involved with Tufts doing spider silk stuff"
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:45 AM - Mike Kelly: oh neat toybuilderlabs takes dwolla now
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:46 AM - Stephen Capistron: I had to look up dwolla
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:46 AM - jbigler1986: ^
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:46 AM - Mike Kelly: printedsolid got me into it
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:46 AM - Mike Kelly: i haven't actually used it yet
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:46 AM - Mike Kelly: that way when he send me enclosure money there's not really a fee

 

Jun 23, 2015 at 8:47 AM - jbigler1986: stay off of Silk Road MK.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:47 AM - Mike Kelly: i don't do bitcoin
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:47 AM - jbigler1986: bitcoin is confusing
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:48 AM - jbigler1986: at least mining
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:48 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah i don't fully understand how electricity turns into money
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:48 AM - jbigler1986: me either. i watched Jerry's videos but was still confused
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:50 AM - Mike Kelly: i think it does some sort of calculation
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:52 AM - daniel871: It's basically a scam for suckers until enough businesses start accepting it as payment.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:52 AM - Stephen Capistron: 200 quintillion nonces, whatever those are, must be tried to add a new block
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:53 AM - daniel871: Miners are even funnier, because of the money spent on electricity on the rigs that generate anything being well in excess of the theoretical currency gained.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:53 AM - Stephen Capistron: either way, 200 quintillion is a huge number and it is only getting bigger
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:53 AM - daniel871: (Also the ones that burn their house down because they neglected a cooling system because it was even more expensive)
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:53 AM - jbigler1986: UMMM. Nonces (a person convicted of a sexual offense, especially child molesting.)
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:53 AM - jbigler1986: WTF
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:53 AM - Mike Kelly: the shit
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:54 AM - Stephen Capistron: nonce is a cryptographic thing
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:54 AM - jbigler1986: i just googled it and that was the first thing. weird
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:54 AM - Stephen Capistron: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_nonce
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:56 AM - daniel871: Wait, which part is the WTF, the bitcoiners setting their homes on fire or the nonce?
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:56 AM - jbigler1986: yeah bitmining is over my head
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:58 AM - Mike Kelly: oh cool we had people making 6 figures RECYCLING METAL
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:58 AM - daniel871: http://www.popularmechanics.com/cul...pens-when-a-bitcoin-mine-burns-down-17410755/
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:58 AM - Mike Kelly: my boss is crazy
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:59 AM - daniel871: That's one of the bigger ones people were laughing about. But the forums for bitcoin are full of threads where people have lost thousands of dollars building mining rigs that fail spectacularly.
Jun 23, 2015 at 8:59 AM - Mike Kelly: omg that wiring
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:00 AM - Mike Kelly: i know chinas really big into bitcoin mining
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:00 AM - Stephen Capistron: where i used to work the recyclred metal went to the annual bbq fund
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:00 AM - Mike Kelly: lol
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:01 AM - Mike Kelly: my miser boss wouldn't even buy us food for the freaking holiday party
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:01 AM - Mike Kelly: "potluck"
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:01 AM - Stephen Capistron: most of our stuff was made of PEEK so there wasnt a ton
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:01 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah they recycled like 3 tons
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:01 AM - Mike Kelly: which probably wasted just an absolute staggering amount of material
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:01 AM - daniel871: I try to find a way to have vacation scheduled for holidays just so I don't have to put up with work drama around those things.
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:02 AM - Mike Kelly: i solved that problem by not going
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:02 AM - Mike Kelly: i don't cook so i'm not about to have my wife make something for other people
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:03 AM - jbigler1986: i love to cook
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:03 AM - daniel871: I wouldn't eat some of the stuff other people where I work have cooked.
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:03 AM - Stephen Capistron: you could have brought beer and said "this is the only thing I know how to make"
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:03 AM - daniel871: Have seen too many of them walk straight back out of the shitter and back to their desk without washing their hands.
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:03 AM - Mike Kelly: i always bring my beer lol
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:03 AM - Mike Kelly: that's gross
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:04 AM - jbigler1986: that is disgusting
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:04 AM - Stephen Capistron: What always amazes me with that situation is the obliviousness that the guilty party has. They just walk on out like it ain't no thing
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:04 AM - jbigler1986: take 1 minute out of ur damn day and wash ur damn hands. so lazy
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:04 AM - daniel871: Yep. So all of the things where people leave out cookies or a shipping company buys donuts for the office or whatever are things I avoid because VP Shithands may have touched them first.
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:05 AM - jbigler1986: lol
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:05 AM - jbigler1986: i try to avoid all bathrooms besides at home
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:06 AM - daniel871: Ugh, lot of good it does to pack a can of soup without packing a bowl to heat it in.
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:06 AM - jbigler1986: just put it in the microwave and watch the light show
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:07 AM - donhuevo: looks I walked in just in time to step in it
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:07 AM - Mike Kelly: wrap it in a bunch of wet paper towels
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:07 AM - Mike Kelly: the water in the paper towels will absorb the microwaves and heat the can
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:08 AM - Stephen Capistron: sous vide the canned food
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:09 AM - jbigler1986: don your z offset wouldn't even work
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:10 AM - donhuevo: my z offset?
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:10 AM - jbigler1986: M565 started working again last night
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:10 AM - donhuevo: that's weird
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:10 AM - jbigler1986: yep
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:10 AM - jbigler1986: like i said. it has happened before
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:11 AM - jbigler1986: didn't take 3 days to start working again last time though
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:12 AM - jbigler1986: ptfe/filament may be getting pinched inside the extruder
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:13 AM - jbigler1986: gonna bore out the hole some and try again. my last fix before throwing it back on to the carriage
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:15 AM - donhuevo: you have that see through ptfe right?
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:15 AM - jbigler1986: yeah
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:15 AM - donhuevo: how does filament feel in just the tube without connectors, extruders or hot ends in the way?
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:16 AM - jbigler1986: fixed the drive gear leaving marks on the filament
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:16 AM - jbigler1986: feels fine
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:16 AM - jbigler1986: pretty smooth
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:17 AM - donhuevo: with the earlier jam and molten plastic getting up inside the heat break, were you able to get that completely cleaned out? I've run a drill bit inside my heat breaks from time to time
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:17 AM - jbigler1986: yeah that's how i cleared it
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:18 AM - donhuevo: that's a weird one then
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:18 AM - daniel871: Hey JB, on the modified Greg's Wade you were talking about a while back, what size pins were you using with it?
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:19 AM - daniel871: Or did it never get that far before you went back to direct drive?
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:20 AM - jbigler1986: well when i put the ptfe in the bowden adapter and push it through the filament/ptfe hole to get it close to the drive gear it gets stuck on something. won't let me push it through any farther. thinking that may be pinching it. we will see
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:20 AM - jbigler1986: didn't get that far daniel
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:21 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah test the ptfe itself for stiction
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:21 AM - Mike Kelly: also did you put some oil in it?
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:21 AM - daniel871: I always have a little resistance where the PTFE tubing goes into the heatbreak, but it's more like a brief breaking then snapping forward into place than a binding.
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:21 AM - daniel871: breaking -> braking.
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:24 AM - daniel871: There's also the briefest of "skips" when first inserting filament as well, so I'm thinking there is a very slight difference between the ID of the PTFE and the ID of the heat break.
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:24 AM - jbigler1986: ptfe itself is easy to push and pull filament through
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:25 AM - jbigler1986: probably won't fix it but why not try it
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:30 AM - Stephen Capistron: neat idea > http://www.csmonitor.com/Technology...ent-accidents-while-passing-on-the-road-video
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:34 AM - Mike Kelly: that's awesome
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:35 AM - donhuevo: until the truck driver switches the rear display to porn
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:35 AM - Mike Kelly: hahahaha
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:35 AM - Mike Kelly: don has a one track mind
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:35 AM - Mike Kelly: or a one lane road
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:36 AM - donhuevo: I guess maybe I do
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:37 AM - jbigler1986: or if the video has a delay or glitch
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:37 AM - donhuevo: second flood warning of the day
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:39 AM - Mike Kelly: geez
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:39 AM - Mike Kelly: it finally stopped raining every day here
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:39 AM - donhuevo: yep cats and dogs and ferrets and pot belly pigs today
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:39 AM - Mike Kelly: now i need to fix my sprinklers and get those up and running
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:39 AM - jbigler1986: we had like 2 weeks where is rained every day
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:40 AM - Mike Kelly: something like 30/40 days we had rain
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:40 AM - jbigler1986: i see a lot of people rear ending those trucks
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:40 AM - Mike Kelly: which is just... bonker amount of rain

 

Jun 23, 2015 at 9:40 AM - Mike Kelly: lol
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:40 AM - Stephen Capistron: thinking they can just drive through the "window"
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:40 AM - Mike Kelly: "sweet nothing in front of me"
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:41 AM - jbigler1986: "hold on let me get closer to see if there are cars coming"
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:43 AM - jbigler1986: good idea. but won't happen in the states
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:43 AM - Mike Kelly: i know this is kinda vague and open ended, but what do you think it would take for you/other people to use the projects resource?
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:44 AM - jbigler1986: as far as?
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:45 AM - jbigler1986: I mean there is a My Printer and Mods/Upgrades section
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:45 AM - Mike Kelly: for posting various projects or thing
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:45 AM - Mike Kelly: my printer is now show and tell
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:45 AM - jbigler1986: hmmm.
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:45 AM - Stephen Capistron: Like a "lets develop an awesome filament sensor" kind of thing
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:45 AM - Mike Kelly: becuase people kept viewing it as "place to post questions about my printer"
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:45 AM - jbigler1986: I like that idea stephen
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:45 AM - Mike Kelly: i also had them add "General Questions" to try and catch those
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:46 AM - donhuevo: would it even be proper to chronicle my printerator there? or just limit it to my robo mods?
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:46 AM - Mike Kelly: i think any sort of project should be allowed
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:46 AM - Mike Kelly: for example mark's blaster gun would go in there
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:46 AM - donhuevo: I will blast you
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:47 AM - Mike Kelly: right now there's a divide because we have the Projects forum and the Projects resource
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:47 AM - donhuevo: - Marvin
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:47 AM - jbigler1986: i think its a good idea. kinda clean up the actual forums some
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:47 AM - Mike Kelly: so there needs to be some sort of incentive to move to the newer system
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:47 AM - Stephen Capistron: I know a good way to cleanup the forums
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:47 AM - Stephen Capistron: Have some QC procedures
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:47 AM - jbigler1986: ha
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:48 AM - Mike Kelly: in their grandiose vision they want the forums to not be primarily troubleshooting but rather a community of makers
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:48 AM - Mike Kelly: which right now it really isn't
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:48 AM - Mike Kelly: there's like 5 of us
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:49 AM - jbigler1986: well there needs to be troubleshooting. it's actually helping sales
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:49 AM - Mike Kelly: so i'm trying to brainstorm ways to incentivize people to stay and continue to share what they're making
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:49 AM - Mike Kelly: troubleshooting won't go away no
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:49 AM - jbigler1986: but yeah. it's mostly troubleshooting
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:49 AM - Mike Kelly: but instead of 90% troubleshooting we bring that down to 50% or so
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:50 AM - Stephen Capistron: free filament for hiting project posting milestones until some sort of critical mass is reached
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:50 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah they definitely need rewards and prizes
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:50 AM - jbigler1986: ha. Robo team has been MIA
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:50 AM - Stephen Capistron: you can't have a stick without a carrot
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:51 AM - Stephen Capistron: and if it is that sample filament they ship with the printer GTFO
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:52 AM - jbigler1986: i will use it to test my bowden feed.
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:52 AM - Stephen Capistron:
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:52 AM - Mike Kelly: jerry was saying he's going to china for 15 days
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:52 AM - Mike Kelly: hopefully to improve quality
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:53 AM - Mike Kelly: so yeah i just need to make a good case and plan for the forum transition
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:53 AM - Mike Kelly: and then they need to supply prizes or incentives to generate content
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:55 AM - Stephen Capistron: I have been sitting on this all morning waiting for MG to show up because they are in Montana, but this seems like an incredibly well laid out kickstarter / project management plan
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:55 AM - Stephen Capistron: http://www.pocketnc.com/blog/
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:56 AM - jbigler1986: i would like to discuss my bowden attempt and get some good input. Is that the kind of "Projects" or more like the blaster gun, filament sensor type of stuff
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:57 AM - Mike Kelly: that's a good project
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:57 AM - Mike Kelly: i view mods/upgrades as a "I completed this mod and here's how you do it
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:57 AM - Stephen Capistron: They actually were testing betas as far back as 2013 and spent all this time working out the kinks before even having a kickstarter page
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:57 AM - Mike Kelly: neat
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:58 AM - Mike Kelly: how do you remove a part from a sacrificial base like that? just cut off the excess with a band saw?
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:58 AM - Stephen Capistron: if there were true karmic justice they would win a judgement against tiko and they would be forced to give all their kickstarter money to the pocket cnc guys (and girl)
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:58 AM - Stephen Capistron: <shrugs>
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:59 AM - Mike Kelly: that's what i don't understand about CNC milling
Jun 23, 2015 at 9:59 AM - Stephen Capistron: Flip it over and mill off the bottom? Design everything with a flat bottom?
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:00 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah i guess i struggle with understanding how it's secured
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:01 AM - Mike Kelly: 3500
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:03 AM - Stephen Capistron: 3 axis proxxon is about 1200
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:03 AM - Stephen Capistron: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p...achine&ie=UTF8&qid=1435079051&rnid=2528832011
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:03 AM - Stephen Capistron: extra 1k per axis and for it to be made in the states seems reasonable
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:04 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah definitely not a bad price
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:05 AM - Stephen Capistron: Odds that MG goes for the 5k option solely so he can get it made in his bobcat colors?
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:05 AM - Mike Kelly: haha
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:07 AM - Mike Glass:
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:08 AM - Mike Glass: thought you could buy those from Harbor Freght for $600
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:08 AM - Mike Kelly: he's talking the pocketnc
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:09 AM - donhuevo: I think I'd love to have a v8 weedwhacker
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:10 AM - Mike Kelly: let's start calling don Tim Taylor
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:10 AM - jbigler1986: Haha
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:11 AM - donhuevo: I'd be honored
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:11 AM - Mike Glass: Hey, they are from Bozeman(PocketNC), that is where the bobcats are..lol
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:11 AM - jbigler1986: Tool time chick ftw
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:11 AM - Mike Kelly: so they'd be all about making you a bobcat colored version
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:12 AM - Stephen Capistron: I was waiting for you to post the pocketnc thing, but couldn't wait any longer
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:13 AM - Mike Glass: I'm pretty sure I know that guy, think he used to buy equipment from me.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:13 AM - Stephen Capistron: I'm surprised it isn't bobcat colours already then.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:15 AM - Mike Kelly: his ears were burning
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:16 AM - Mike Glass: Nope different guy, oh well, guess cant get a deal on it..poop
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:17 AM - Mike Kelly: hahaha
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:17 AM - Stephen Capistron: Offer to make a sign for them. duh
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:17 AM - Mike Kelly: man i wish my 3dconnexion would do more angles and off kilter adjustments
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:17 AM - Mike Kelly: it only works in one direction at a time which is dumb
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM - Mike Glass: what software?
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM - Mike Kelly: soilidworks
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM - Mike Glass: thats odd, my is free floating
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM - Mike Kelly: did you even have to ask
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM - Mike Kelly: so if you pull in and push left it'll do both at once?
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM - Mike Kelly: mine it does one then the other
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:19 AM - Mike Glass: yea
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:19 AM - Mike Glass: you must have something not configured
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:19 AM - Mike Kelly: maybe it's because "Dominant" is enabled?
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:20 AM - Mike Kelly: ok yeah that was it
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:20 AM - Mike Kelly: much better
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:20 AM - Mike Glass: lol
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:20 AM - Mike Kelly: man that's like night and day difference
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:20 AM - Mike Glass: IKR
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:20 AM - Mike Kelly: i wonder if the 3dconnexion works over the network
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:20 AM - Mike Kelly: through splashtop

 

Jun 23, 2015 at 10:20 AM - Mike Kelly: i'd vote no
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:21 AM - Mike Glass: sometimes i just sit and make an object go wacko spinning around if im stuck on a project.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:21 AM - Harry: Hey guys, just wanted to let you know were going to go offline for a few minutes around 11 PST for an update
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:21 AM - Stephen Capistron: i've never used a 3d mouse
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:21 AM - Mike Glass: oh your one of those!
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:21 AM - Stephen Capistron: i am
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:21 AM - Mike Kelly: i like it
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:22 AM - Mike Kelly: certainly not necessary but it is time saving and comes in very handy
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:22 AM - Mike Glass: I wont use anything else, very time saving
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:22 AM - Stephen Capistron: i've been using 4 different CAD programs recently and am all screwed up as to what button does pan and which does rotate
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:22 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah i have trouble with that
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:23 AM - Mike Kelly: especially when you add in netfabb/simplify3d/cura/repetier
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:23 AM - Mike Glass: I want to get the portable version, I hate packing this 7 pound one around
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:23 AM - Mike Kelly: who all do things a bit different
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:23 AM - Mike Glass: it works well in blender as well
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:24 AM - Mike Kelly: i really need to expand my toolbox
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:24 AM - Mike Kelly: i've become a one trick pony
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:24 AM - Stephen Capistron: Get the pocket CNC so you can mess with autodesk
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:24 AM - Mike Kelly: lol
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:24 AM - Stephen Capistron: I use logic well
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:25 AM - Mike Kelly: i started on inventor
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:25 AM - Mike Kelly: i need to play with stuff like creo and onshape more
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:25 AM - Mike Kelly: just kinda hard to get motivated to try new things when solidworks does 90%of what i'm after
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:25 AM - Mike Kelly: though i really need to play with more mesh manipulation
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:25 AM - Stephen Capistron: I was just using CREO parametric 2.0 (the cad formerly known as ProE) and it does some neat stuff
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:27 AM - Mike Glass: fusion is $40 a month,
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:28 AM - Stephen Capistron: If you are making an array of holes it will give the radius of the first hole as a snap-to option
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:29 AM - jbigler1986: What speeds can you print with the Tiko?
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:29 AM - jbigler1986: Crap wrong forum
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:29 AM - donhuevo: none. they don't exist yet
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:29 AM - Stephen Capistron: we all easily spend $40/month on stuff we don't need / use (cell phone package, cable, fancy filament, gym membership, ...)
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:30 AM - Stephen Capistron: and to come full circle that is why PocketCNC seems so good. They didn't have a kickstarter until they were actually ready
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:31 AM - jbigler1986: Yeah lots of people need the money to get ut going
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:31 AM - jbigler1986: How long did it take robo to deliver
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM - donhuevo: I think mine was 3 months
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM - donhuevo: maybe 4?
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM - jbigler1986: Thats not to bad
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM - donhuevo: and I ordered just after the kickstarter ended
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM - Stephen Capistron: that was a kit that you assembled or a built machine?
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM - Mike Kelly: well i get the genius award of the day
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM - Harry: JBigler1986, if you order now before 12 PST we can usually get it out same day
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM - donhuevo: came built
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:33 AM - Harry: Not going to guarantee that, but that is where we are at right now.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:33 AM - donhuevo: but built badly
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:33 AM - Mike Kelly: i was taking my dog out and there's a garage door that is usually all the way open
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:33 AM - Stephen Capistron: MK, what did you do?
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:33 AM - Mike Kelly: well today it wasn't
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:33 AM - Mike Kelly: and as i was walking back in i was too distracted by my phone to remember
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:33 AM - Mike Kelly: and walked right into it
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:33 AM - Mike Kelly: cutting my forehead
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:33 AM - donhuevo: stitches Mike?
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:34 AM - Mike Kelly: no not that bad but facial wounds always bleed a lot
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:34 AM - jbigler1986: Ha. Been waiting on a response from Braydon for like 3 weeks on buying another Robo. Get on that Harry
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:34 AM - Harry: I'll tell him right now, he's super busy but you can also email our support email and they'll get back to you!
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM - Harry: Can you message me your email just so I can tell Braydon though?
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM - jbigler1986: He has it. We were going back and forth
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM - jbigler1986: But i can message it to you
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM - Harry: Yea message me just so I can tell him who it is
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:36 AM - Harry: Thank you!
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:36 AM - Mike Kelly: but ow
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:38 AM - donhuevo: it's no wonder we didn't evolve with our heads in the middle of our torso's
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:39 AM - donhuevo: I think I said that wrong
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:39 AM - daniel871: We did, they just usually finish dropping out before birth.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:39 AM - donhuevo: we should have evolved with our heads in the middle of our torso's
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:39 AM - daniel871: Bad-dum-tsh.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:41 AM - Mike Kelly: evolution never expected the smart phone
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:41 AM - Mike Kelly: hitting my head also smacked my jaws together so i hope i'm not concussed
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:42 AM - daniel871: Did you bite your tongue?
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:42 AM - daniel871:
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:42 AM - daniel871: Hm.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:42 AM - Mike Kelly: no
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:42 AM - Mike Kelly: daniel we disabled members in chat because it kept catching our attention when people left/joined
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:42 AM - Mike Kelly: we just need to remove that thing completely
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:42 AM - daniel871: Seems redundant.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM - daniel871: (especially since the one at the top seems to work fine)
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM - Mike Kelly: yeah
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM - Mike Kelly: i'd never noticed that before
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM - Mike Glass: or just use the same code on the one on the right.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM - Harry: haha i'll take care of that
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM - Harry: wont be in the update at 11 AM PST but will be in an update next week
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM - daniel871: I think the one on the right is leftover from being on the main forum page vs. just the shoutbox page.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:44 AM - daniel871: If that makes sense.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM - daniel871: Yep.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM - daniel871:
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM - Mike Kelly: ugh i'm annoyed we're having a 1pm meeting
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM - Mike Kelly: i usually take lunch at 12:30
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM - daniel871: Better than a 4:45 meeting.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM - Mike Glass: then you can be casually late.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM - jbigler1986: True that. My work knows better
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:46 AM - daniel871: Or literally be walking out the door and get snagged by a VP with a "Hey, can you join us in here for a minute?" and get stuck for two hours.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:46 AM - donhuevo: the blue on the dark theme could stand to be a few shades darker too...
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:46 AM - daniel871: Yellow on White on Red theme.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:46 AM - jbigler1986: If i have to work late due to being busy not a big deal. If its bc of someone being amoron they will know it
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:46 AM - daniel871:
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:47 AM - jbigler1986: Purple on pink on teal
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:47 AM - donhuevo: sorry jb. sometimes my moron just slips out
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:47 AM - daniel871: That's a weird name for it.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:48 AM - Stephen Capistron: Don't we want red on green and mess with anyone that is color blind?
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:49 AM - daniel871: That only works for certain patterns.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:49 AM - jbigler1986:

 

Jun 23, 2015 at 10:49 AM - daniel871: Like this one http://i.imgur.com/ooBK4Sz.jpg
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:49 AM - donhuevo: bacon
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:49 AM - daniel871: Would look better if the ice cream didn't look like mayonaise.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:50 AM - donhuevo: and the caramel looks a little like mustard
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:50 AM - Stephen Capistron: I don't even remember what colors it is, but they had to re do their methods of outlining things because someone was color blind. Just one of those things no one ever thinks of and I'll inapproriately make fun of
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:50 AM - donhuevo: where did that gray circle go?
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:51 AM - Stephen Capistron: i see what you did there
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:51 AM - daniel871: I took the tags off of it so that the archive didn't cause trouble.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:51 AM - daniel871: Like the overweight stripper did.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:52 AM - donhuevo: haha
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:52 AM - daniel871: To make up for it.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:52 AM - daniel871:
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:52 AM - jbigler1986: Hey. Don was in love
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:52 AM - daniel871: Best art display I've seen recently.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:52 AM - donhuevo: I was. once.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:53 AM - jbigler1986: Sorry. Don is in love
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:53 AM - jbigler1986: He told her to pose for that pic
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:54 AM - donhuevo: what she's doing with that other guy though...
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:54 AM - Harry: Just a reminder guys, a forum update will start in about 5 minutes.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:54 AM - donhuevo: I thought you said 11PST
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:54 AM - daniel871: 11AM PST, yeah. Right up at the top of the screen.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:54 AM - donhuevo: oh am
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:54 AM - donhuevo: I'm a dumbass
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:55 AM - daniel871: Another case of West Coast Best Coast time zone shenanigans.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:55 AM - Harry: haha
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:55 AM - donhuevo: AND the skeleton of a woman that's apparently the love of my life got caught doing another guy in an art gallery
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:56 AM - daniel871: See everyone on the other side of the update.
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:56 AM - Harry: Its almost all backend stuff, so you guys wont really notice anything haha
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:57 AM - Harry: A few security updates, and stability updates is all for the most part
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:57 AM - jbigler1986: Website troubleshooting posts gonna happen soon
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:57 AM - jbigler1986:
Jun 23, 2015 at 10:57 AM - Harry: Alright guys, see you soon! haha
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:21 AM - Harry: Hey All!
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:21 AM - Harry: Were back
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:23 AM - donhuevo: that was quick
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:25 AM - Harry: Yea! Just a bunch of small quick updates on the back end. That was all
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:25 AM - donhuevo: how much trouble is it to tweak the css on this package?
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:26 AM - Mike Kelly:
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:26 AM - Mike Kelly: that was fun to clean up
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:26 AM - donhuevo: looks like your spools got into a fist fight
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:27 AM - donhuevo: white's bleeding all over the place
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:27 AM - Mike Kelly: the red (salmon really) looped around the hips and took it for a ride
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:28 AM - Harry: not bad at all, why donhuevo?
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:28 AM - Mike Kelly: https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=9c76e55e5a9cc1ef311d10f43931814d&oe=562C6C92
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:28 AM - Mike Kelly: true words
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:28 AM - donhuevo: switch to the dark theme and have a look around
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:30 AM - Harry: yea it could use some work
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:31 AM - Harry: I'll add that to my list
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:32 AM - donhuevo: yep, just a couple instances of blue that should be darker is all I can see
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:32 AM - donhuevo: maybe your red text too
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:32 AM - Harry: yea
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:41 AM - Stephen Capistron: for mini robo > https://sdp-si.com/eStore/Catalog/PartNumber/S99LBCM003010
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:43 AM - Mike Kelly: time to make a sub mini cnc
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:44 AM - Mike Glass: ^
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:53 AM - Mike Glass: I see some people converting these. http://www.grizzly.com/products/Drill-Mill-with-Stand/G0704
Jun 23, 2015 at 11:54 AM - Stephen Capistron: i thought lateral cutting movements on those is a bad idea
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:07 PM - Mike Glass: http://www.cnczone.com/forums/benchtop-machines/172388-grahams-optimum-bf20-build-8.html Nice
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:08 PM - daniel871: Click here for CAD model.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:08 PM - daniel871: Clicks
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:09 PM - daniel871: Sorry, the CAD model for this part is unavailable.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:10 PM - daniel871: There are an awful lot of people having a hard time with the initial Robo setup with the MatterControl software on the Facebook hobby group I'm part of.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:10 PM - daniel871: Take that, English grammar rules!
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:11 PM - donhuevo: battered and bloody, grammar runs home yelling, "I'm telling my mom!"
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:12 PM - daniel871: German doesn't care.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:15 PM - Mike Glass: Starks law is stoopid.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:17 PM - daniel871: Not really. Easy work-around is for a practice to have all of the stuff it needs to do everything itself.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:17 PM - daniel871: Like the Urologist I saw for my cancer stuff. CT scanner, MRI, chemotherapy and everything was in the same building.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM - daniel871: Everything but Chemo was on the same floor, even (I think the chemo took place on a separate floor because it was such a depressing thing to see).
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:19 PM - daniel871: It isn't self-referral if you just go down the hall and run the test within the same practice.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:19 PM - Mike Glass: This lady is trying to use it on some printer they want to put in our clinic, but we told her no, we need a certain brand. Then she pulls Stark out her ass.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:20 PM - daniel871: Pretty sure it doesn't even apply.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:21 PM - daniel871: Stark Law has to do with actual health services related to medicare/medicaid patients, so...
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:21 PM - Mike Glass: yea, nothing to do with patient referrals.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:21 PM - Mike Glass: exactly
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:21 PM - donhuevo: yep, tell her to put it right back in her ass where she found it
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:22 PM - jbigler1986: WOAH
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:22 PM - daniel871: It talks about equipment/supplies, but that is specifically for things like syringes or drugs, not a printer.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:22 PM - Mike Glass: I will let my manager tell her, I would tell her she is full of shit.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:23 PM - daniel871: Who goes around trying to sell printers anyway?
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:23 PM - daniel871: Just buy one through Amazon or something and put it on the business account.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:23 PM - daniel871: Or have IT do it, because that's exactly what they will do.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:23 PM - Mike Glass: Not selling, we are connected to the hostpital and its to print from thier system. they just dont want to buy different printers
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:24 PM - Mike Glass: I am IT
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:24 PM - daniel871: I'm still trying to wrap my head around why the printer brand matters.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:24 PM - donhuevo: I found a reasonably cheap source for refurbished printers
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:24 PM - daniel871: It's not like we still live in the days of hard coded dot matrix printers that won't work without a dongle.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:24 PM - Mike Glass: They dont have network cards, they are wireless, Im not dealing with wireless printers
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:25 PM - daniel871: The only not-wireless printer I deal with is literally the Robo. Every printer at work is Wireless and we have zero trouble with them.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:25 PM - Mike Glass: We have a dozen of another brand that is proven to work and my people know how to troubleshoot them.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:26 PM - daniel871: Mix and match of brands here ranging from Canon to Brother to HP. There's even a Lexmark in the accounting office.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:26 PM - donhuevo: yep. that's the only way to fly... hardware homogeneity
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:26 PM - Mike Glass: Its called man power, and Im about it, we have 5 new people this year so still training on all the systems.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:27 PM - daniel871: All of the printers are connected to the server room, and from there shared to all of the user stations whenever they log in. They just pick the printer and send a print to it.
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:28 PM - donhuevo: I'm going to frame MG for murdering the chat
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:30 PM - Stephen Capistron: the voices in your head don't count?
Jun 23, 2015 at 12:32 PM - Mike Glass: We dont use MS, we are linux shop, no ms file and print sharing is allowed.
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:25 PM - jbigler1986: it's all Don's fault
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:26 PM - jbigler1986: there is my helping hand for the day
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:26 PM - donhuevo: haha
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:27 PM - jbigler1986: where is ur extruder located?

 

Jun 23, 2015 at 1:28 PM - donhuevo:
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:28 PM - donhuevo:
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:28 PM - donhuevo: that's my current extruder setup
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:30 PM - jbigler1986: what is the setup inside that case
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:30 PM - donhuevo:
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:31 PM - donhuevo: about half the lever stroke moves the idler pulley out of the way and the rest tensions the spring
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:32 PM - jbigler1986: looks like clearance for the filament is low. am i right?
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:32 PM - donhuevo: not sure what you mean
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:32 PM - jbigler1986: like without hitting the spring tension bolt
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:33 PM - donhuevo: ah
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:33 PM - donhuevo: let me see if I can get you a pic at that angle...
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:36 PM - donhuevo:
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:36 PM - jbigler1986: man that's close. nice and compact
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:37 PM - donhuevo: I was hoping to fit it all into the motor's dimensions but it ended up spilling over
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:50 PM - donhuevo:
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:52 PM - Mike Kelly: just had my internet go out for like 40 minutes
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:52 PM - donhuevo: that sucks
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:53 PM - donhuevo: welcome back
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:54 PM - jbigler1986: nice. what drive gear are you using
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:54 PM - Mike Kelly: and before that i was in a meeting
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:54 PM - donhuevo: that's the one from Trinity Labs
Jun 23, 2015 at 1:57 PM - jbigler1986: looks kinda like the bondtech one
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:00 PM - donhuevo: it's been good. can't complain
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:16 PM - donhuevo: new hob idea... 1.8 end mill 45 degrees to perpendicular to a depth of 1mm. 48 teeth.
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:16 PM - donhuevo:
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:22 PM - donhuevo: after array, before subtraction...
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:25 PM - donhuevo: one stepper to hold the pulley and a linear actuator to hold the dremel. boom.
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:30 PM - Stephen Capistron: What is the OD of the trinity?
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:30 PM - Stephen Capistron: They went out of business right?
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:31 PM - donhuevo: 12.75mm and yes
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:32 PM - Stephen Capistron: The large OD helps a lot I bet
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:32 PM - donhuevo: it's on an 8mm shaft
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:33 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah i think so
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:33 PM - Stephen Capistron: I'm surprised I haven't seen one that is comically large with multiple idler pulleys. Something about the OD of the large gear with like 3 idlers for good contact
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:41 PM - Mike Kelly: i need something interesting to print to test out simplify3d 3.0
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:41 PM - donhuevo: http://www.grainger.com/product/MICRO-100-Carbide-End-Mill-14K568
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:41 PM - donhuevo: Yoda!
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:41 PM - Mike Kelly: i'd like to see something more like a tank tread
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:41 PM - Mike Kelly: what would yoda tell me
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:42 PM - donhuevo: printed well I did
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:42 PM - Stephen Capistron: Dermal doesn't sell a mill that is cheaper?
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:43 PM - donhuevo: they may. just wanted to see if I could find a 1.8mm square cut
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:43 PM - Stephen Capistron: Thers is not square I take it
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:43 PM - donhuevo: dunno
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:43 PM - donhuevo: first link I found that fit the bill
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:44 PM - Stephen Capistron: Mike you should print the Drexel drill press
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:44 PM - Stephen Capistron: F u autocorrect
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:47 PM - donhuevo: I'm gonna go make Mike's tank tread
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:51 PM - Mike Kelly: i've seen people try it used closed loop GT2 belts
Jun 23, 2015 at 2:58 PM - donhuevo: I'd like to see that
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:01 PM - Mike Kelly: i don't believe it worked very well
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:04 PM - Mike Kelly: i've also heard that stratasys printers use something like a worm gear to drive filament
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:10 PM - donhuevo:
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:10 PM - donhuevo:
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:11 PM - Mike Kelly: i think you're getting a bit crazy here
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:12 PM - donhuevo: you wanted tank tread
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:13 PM - donhuevo: just thinking how simple a machine it would be to build. I have some of my original robo steppers just sitting
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:13 PM - Mike Kelly: no like instead of a hobbed wheel
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:13 PM - Mike Kelly: it would be a conveyer type device
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:13 PM - donhuevo: now you're getting a bit crazy
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:14 PM - donhuevo: your turn to draw
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:15 PM - daniel871: Good grief. Someone on FB told someone else to install FTDI drivers on the Robo "because the card on the robo looks like the same FTDI card on my prusa i3".
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:16 PM - daniel871:
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:17 PM - Mike Kelly: good lord
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:17 PM - daniel871: I posted a link to the current firmware page and "or you could follow the instructions here". But it may be too late.
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:19 PM - daniel871: Jesus christ the other guy is arguing that third party firmware for a different printer will work just fine on the robo.
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:20 PM - daniel871: Facebook needs a "this person is actively trying to ruin someone else's property" button.
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:22 PM - Mike Kelly: arduino's are pretty durable, he can flash the correct one later
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:23 PM - Mike Kelly: don
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:23 PM - Mike Kelly:
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:24 PM - donhuevo: ummmm...
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:24 PM - daniel871: Also had someone ask how S3D was better than MatterControl.
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:24 PM - donhuevo: some kind of tacky drum?
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:25 PM - donhuevo: like a printer platen maybe?
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:26 PM - daniel871: Would "Simplify3D : Matter Control :: Having Sex : Masturbation" be in the right reaponse ballpark?
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:26 PM - daniel871: Response
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:27 PM - donhuevo: that could depend entirely on the goat
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:27 PM - daniel871:
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:29 PM - Mike Kelly: simplify3D is to car as mattercontrol is to a bike
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:29 PM - donhuevo: simplify is to Ferarri as mattercontrol is to chevette
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:30 PM - daniel871: How about a wheel instead of bike. Since there are people that argue bikes are better than cars.
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:31 PM - donhuevo: McDonald's hamburger -> filet mignon?
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:31 PM - daniel871: Matter Control is Ford Pinto, Simplify3D is Ford GT.
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:32 PM - donhuevo: lunchlady -> Wolfgang Puck?
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:32 PM - Mike Kelly: yeah let's see which person wins in a cross country race, bike vs car
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:33 PM - Mike Kelly: IIACA
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:33 PM - donhuevo: Linda Hamilton now -> 1980's Linda Hamilton
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:34 PM - daniel871: Sally Field now vs Sally Field in Stay Hungry.
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:34 PM - daniel871: Side note, everyone should watch that.
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:34 PM - donhuevo: Texas Instruments calculator -> iPhone
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:35 PM - daniel871: Both for young topless Sally Field and Arnold Schwarzenneger as the lead fiddle in a bluegrass band.
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:35 PM - daniel871: It is every bit as hilarious as it sounds.
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:36 PM - donhuevo: sounds almost as painful as Clint with an orangutan
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:37 PM - daniel871: Its actually a fun movie that pokes a lot of fun at Alabama.
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:37 PM - donhuevo: or that abortion with Sly and Dolly Parton
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:38 PM - daniel871: Its Arnold's first movie appearance, so there is that.
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:38 PM - donhuevo: well that settles it then. a must watch
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:39 PM - Mike Kelly: https://plus.google.com/u/1/+josebecerra/posts/ZRMEijw6SXR?cfem=1
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:39 PM - Mike Kelly: neat
Jun 23, 2015 at 3:41 PM - daniel871: Also Robert Englund as someone not Freddy Kruger.