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NinjaFlex filament

Discussion in 'Printing Filament' started by Melody Bliss, Jan 13, 2014.

  1. Mike Kelly

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    Might need to add some washers to increase the hobbed bolt tension. I've never printed ninjaflex so i can't be much help
     
  2. mark tomlinson

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    You can use the plastic tube method -- I had it extended all the way up to above the hobb (with the notch for the hobb to get at the filament).
     
  3. bryson bishop

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    @mark could you post a picture of your method?
     
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    Thanks! I didn't see it in the other thread but what did you use to hold it in place?
     
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    The filament feed mechanism itself. Undo the screws and feed it (with filament in it) down into the hotend.

    The small section missing was what was pressed up against the hobb (with NijaFlex inside of it of coourse). The rest extended up above the hobbed bolt a bit and then down into the hotend.
     
  7. robert sanchez

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    Guess my tension was off.
    Bummer.
     

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    that is why I prefer the plastic tube method I use, it keeps the filament in-line (in the tube) from before the hobb to the cold side of the hotend.
     
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  9. robert sanchez

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    Well I guess I'll be raiding my desk drawer this morning for pens.

    The more I think about your statement, the more I realize, the value in the design your using.

    Worse case I have 10 more inches of brass tube, but the plastic will be easier to use.
     
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    Good luck :)

    You will want to experiment with other printer settings.
    The NinjaFlex is compressed into the tube and extrudes differently in some respects (the hobbed bolt stopping will not immediately stop the feed).
    So slow is good. Retraction is virtually pointless.
     
  11. robert sanchez

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    Ninjaflex progress. Finally got it printing with a filament multiplier of 1.25. 230c
    Hot end, 60c bed, 10mm/sec. Simplify3d supports.

    Built a filament guide and press fit in 1/8 brass tubing to support above the Hobbed bolt and 1/8 tube below it. I got the idea from this video. http://diy3dprinting.blogspot.com/2014/07/how-to-print-ninjaflex-on-printrbot.html?m=1

    my simplify3d file is attached and the stl. You can buy the brass tubing here: 8950K512. The stl file is intended for use with a 6-32 screw, which I used a tap to thread.

    I am running a stock R1 with the Hexagon hot end.
     

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  12. mark tomlinson

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    If you don't mind, share your factory file with the settings.
    I like the brass tube approach.
     
  13. robert sanchez

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    Please see my updated post.
     
  14. Mike Glass

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    Thanks Robert, I see now that ninjaflex has a new filament that is a semi flex, looks interesting.
     
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  15. Bray

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    Hey everybody, first post here.

    I had a really good couple of small test prints with Ninjaflex today. Before starting, I had read this forum and pulled together whatever info I could find elsewhere. I thought it kind to share my settings as well as some photos of the result. I made a guide as codeblue and 1nxtmonster suggested, using a tube for a mechanical pencil which size just barely fit down the hole in the platform. Once touching my hotend guide, I trimmed the top as close to the hobbed bolt as possible, but notched to get out of the way of the apposing bearing. (see photos)

    I have performed a few mods / upgrades to my Robo3D, the three which I can attribute to the successful Ninjaflex print would be:

    1) a replaced hobbed bolt
    2) the guide I just made
    3) Prometheus hot end

    Printed 223C first layer, 218C other layers. No hotbed, using blue tape. I just kept raising the temperature slowly and hand pushing the Ninjaflex until it resembled how PLA does at 180C. I did not disable retraction. In Slic3r Printer settings, I set Retraction Speed to 20mm/s.

    Test printed:
    http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:35998 Crown Of Polygonia
    http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:173992 0.4mm thin wall

    ninjaflex_bray1.jpg ninjaflex_bray2.jpg Screenshot 2015-01-17 19.47.46.png
     
  16. Mike Glass

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    looks good Bray, maybe on the hot side, what fan setup do you have, dual or single?
     
  17. Bray

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    I have the stock Robo fan, but with a reprinted bracket, so the Prometheus hot end will fit. Plus, the fan mounted to the hot end.
    https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/prometheus-hot-end

    I can try to reprint slightly cooler. I found it was very thick at 210-215. I'll try giving it a little longer to warm up and report back.
     
  18. Mike Glass

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    I use this fan duct, going to put a second one on as well, it made a huge difference in printing.
     
  19. Ocsff

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    I drilled out and added a PTFE tube and have successfully printed Ninja semi flex with a .4mm nozzle. Ordered a .6mm nozzle to print my Filaflex as it is even softer than regular Ninja Flex.
     
  20. Truman Heberle

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    Hello, I just ordered a roll of blue ninjaflex filament and tried getting it to extrude with no luck, which I anticipated as I used basically used default PLA settings to print.

    I found a tube from the inside of a mechanical pencil I have which perfectly guides the filament and I plan to use it as a guide so I can print ninjaflex. However, I am hesitant to use this plastic tube until I get more research or answers to the following questions:

    Will the plastic tube melt inside the extruder over time by being used as a filament guide?
    If inserted is there a barrier that would stop the plastic tube from making direct contact with the hot end?
    Would a brass tube serve better compared to a plastic tube?

    Help would be much appreciated, thanks!
     

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