Shoutbox Archive

Jul 20, 2017 at 5:10 AM - daniel871: Got an email about the Anet knockoff of the Creality CR-10 being on sale for $300. The race to the bottom is on.
Jul 20, 2017 at 5:23 AM - Geof: I think we are past the race to the bottom. Now its how unsafe can we make it
Jul 20, 2017 at 9:39 AM - JeffTheMess: afternoon roboneers
Jul 20, 2017 at 4:03 PM - OutsourcedGuru: Long time, no see. Had a server crash Friday. Much craziness has ensued.
Jul 20, 2017 at 4:58 PM - danzca6: In case you want to watch tonight. https://twitter.com/ROBO3D/status/888180986009325568
Jul 20, 2017 at 7:38 PM - KRGraphicsCG: Hey guys... anyone having issues with the bed making a buzzing noise when it is supposed to raise?

 

Jul 21, 2017 at 5:17 AM - Geof: hey KR if its buzzing you either have a mechanical bind or a stepper driver issue. You'll need to contact Robo about the driver to see if they have an adjustment since there is no POT on the board.
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:17 AM - Geof: Make sure to ask for a tier 2 tech so you dont deal with the customer service guy
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:17 AM - Geof: or gal
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:24 AM - JeffTheMess: good morning robonauts
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:24 AM - JeffTheMess:
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:25 AM - JeffTheMess: robo3d live unbox
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:30 AM - Geof: yep saw/watching that
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:30 AM - Geof: seeing anything interesting?
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:37 AM - JeffTheMess: not yet
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:39 AM - daniel871: LOL at the Youtube comments asking Joel why he was being snippy/terse with Braydon during the video. I haven't watched the whole video yet but I hope it's because he was getting sick of BS marketing claims by the end of it.
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:45 AM - JeffTheMess: its a robo way!
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:46 AM - Bill Monroe: anyone see where I parked my truck?
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:48 AM - JeffTheMess: somewhere in the real world
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:48 AM - Bill Monroe: oh wait.. valet took it
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:50 AM - Bill Monroe: man, I heard this tune on the radio yesterday and I'll be damned if I can find out who did it or what it's called
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:56 AM - JeffTheMess: i love how he avoids comparing it to ultimaker
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:56 AM - Geof: meh all the youtubers had alot of very negative things to say about Robo. After all that and watching the video it doens't seem snippy ?
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:56 AM - Geof: If I build a machine I'd love it if they compared mine in print quality and performance to a Ultimaker
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:57 AM - JeffTheMess: lol yeah but admit that though right?
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:58 AM - Bill Monroe: I think all the old-guard robo folx still remember the hype, and failure of the R1.. more hype isnt going to impress
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:58 AM - Geof: he said yes he took "inspiration" from all the big players
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:58 AM - Geof: lol I'm sure the R2 is a fine machine, dont have one so no real opinion other than "outside looking in"
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:59 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah, if it like the ultimaker it will be just fine
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:59 AM - Geof: Yep. Half the price
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:59 AM - JeffTheMess: thats a big plus
Jul 21, 2017 at 5:59 AM - Geof: my extended was 3k. 8.5x8.5x12 build
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:00 AM - Geof: I dont have much interest in the frills though lol. I just want to load a SD card with gcode and print. (and it work lol!!!!)
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:01 AM - JeffTheMess: we can all dream can we
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:02 AM - JeffTheMess: makermuse says the form2 is like that
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:07 AM - Bill Monroe: Found IT!
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:07 AM - Bill Monroe: slow hands.. Niall Horan
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:21 AM - Geof: lol I have most mine whipped into shape. Very few are "plug and print"
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:24 AM - JeffTheMess: sub 3k are like that
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:28 AM - daniel871: Yeah, I've been wanting a Form2 since not long after it was released and Maker's Muse not being able to come up with an otherwise printable shape that would fail with standard settings is a good test.
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:29 AM - daniel871: That fuckin' price tag though.
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:29 AM - JeffTheMess: try a duplicator 7 500 bucks
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:30 AM - daniel871: Yeah, no, I've not seen a video of that printer yet that didn't have a bunch of disclaimers that made it sound even more finicky than FDM printers.
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:31 AM - JeffTheMess: they actually have a fb page with video, quality isnt that great but for what it can doits not too bad
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:32 AM - daniel871: Someone pointed this one out, but it's an unknown at this point: https://uniz3d.com/
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:33 AM - daniel871: https://uniz3d.com/tech-specs/
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:33 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah same method of how the wanhao works with an lcd screen
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:34 AM - JeffTheMess: its good that it doesn't have to be 100 infill like formlab
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:34 AM - daniel871: One bit that bugs me is the bit where Maker's Muse talked about there being no real infill options unless you model it that way.
Jul 21, 2017 at 6:35 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah, you have to input drain holes and all that
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:16 AM - WheresWaldo: You need to remember that a closed space even if you have no infill will end up a solid with most resin printers. Also infill patterns won't allow complete draining or cleaning of the excess resin inside the model. SLA Resin printers aren't for everyone and you need to learn new modeling techniques to truly take advantage of the technology.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:18 AM - WheresWaldo: This model was printed at 0.025 mm layer height, it is 50 mm round and 4 mm thick not counting the supports. Took 3 hours 46 minutes to print on a cheap LCD printer.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:19 AM - JeffTheMess: this is your print?
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:19 AM - WheresWaldo: yes
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:20 AM - JeffTheMess: pretty good, you made it yourself or bought something similar to the wanhao
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:20 AM - WheresWaldo: It was still green when I snapped the image, all I had done was cleaned off the excess resin.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:21 AM - JeffTheMess: you have a uv light to cure or leave it in the sunlight
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:21 AM - WheresWaldo: It is a clone, Wanhao used their customer base as beta testers with the D7, this one is what the D7 was based off of. That said, version 1.4 of the D7 is a very good printer with a growing community behind it.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:22 AM - WheresWaldo: I have a UV Nail Dryer coming from AliExpress, but currently just leave it out in the sun for a couple of hours will fully cure the model.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:24 AM - JeffTheMess: thats pretty good, the 1.4 is getting pretty good reviews with slight variation on bad quality
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:26 AM - WheresWaldo: Since I am testing, I printed a lot of model so far that I normally wouldn't have looked at on Thingiverse. This was a failed print scaled down to just 25 mm tall
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:27 AM - JeffTheMess: failed yes, but a lot closer than you would normal get from an fdm
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:27 AM - WheresWaldo: The window details were too small. Again at 25 micron, not readily apparent in the image, but you can see the words Police Box very plainly on the top of the print.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:28 AM - JeffTheMess: whats your lcd res?
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:29 AM - WheresWaldo: The amount of detail that is retained is just incredible. 2K at 5.5 inches exactly like the D7 47.6 microns in X/Y dimensions.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:32 AM - JeffTheMess: well damn thats great
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:32 AM - WheresWaldo: It failed because my formula for dynamic lift speed (peel) was too fast.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:32 AM - JeffTheMess: I abandon the dlp 3d, and I am starting over with an lcd
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:33 AM - JeffTheMess: I have a 50W led coming in and I am using a phone screen I had lying around for it
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:33 AM - WheresWaldo: If you are not building your own then I wouldn't have issues recommending the v1.4 D7 now. But you have to want to learn a new workflow and abandon the lovefest for S3D.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:34 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah, I actually use twomon usb and the wanhao software it works fine
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:35 AM - WheresWaldo: be careful driving a lot of UV through the LCD, you can overpower the LCD's ability to block UV in the unexposed areas. This printer uses a 2 x 2 array that is 40W total.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:36 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah I heard of that, adding a few cm to offset it might help me
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:37 AM - WheresWaldo: I am in regular communication with someone who has the bigger brother KLD2160 printer, it is 2K at 8.9 inch has about 75 micron X/Y resolution. His prints are really good.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:38 AM - JeffTheMess: didn't know it had a bigger brother
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:41 AM - WheresWaldo: I have modified Marlin 1.0.2 to work with nanoDLP with no modifications. he is helping me test my changes. Yeah the bigger brother is pretty nice. https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/shipping-cost/1190493_32782673448.html
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:42 AM - WheresWaldo: That is the seller I used, I have since made a few modifications to the original printer, replaced the controller, bigger power supply, added my own rPi, etc.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:44 AM - JeffTheMess: will you add a tilt for the vat?
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:45 AM - WheresWaldo: Flex vat doesn't need tilt.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:45 AM - WheresWaldo: Tilt is only needed on rigid vats
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:47 AM - WheresWaldo: You just need to get the peel speed right in your resin profiles. A much simpler design without having a tilt mechanism.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:48 AM - WheresWaldo: Is your build a bottom up?
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:48 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah I haven't heard how long the flat vat last
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:48 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah bottom up is better in some cases
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:48 AM - JeffTheMess: my old dlp was top down
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:49 AM - WheresWaldo: The flex vat uses a sheet of FEP film for the bottom, it is replaceable, with care and using plastic tools you can get upwards of 50 prints or more before replacing.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:50 AM - JeffTheMess: alot less expensive than the glass and silicone
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:51 AM - WheresWaldo: FEB sheets are a consumable, LCD screen is a consumable (just like a DLP bulb). I have about 20 prints on my current sheet. I bought a 4' roll that netted 12 sheets cut.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:52 AM - WheresWaldo: If I get 50 prints per sheet that will last me at least 600 prints.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:53 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah I need to get a roll, whats the thickness of your, .175mm?
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:53 AM - WheresWaldo: I had heard you can recoat the vats but it is costly and time intensive.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:54 AM - WheresWaldo: Here https://flexvat.com/products/fep-film cheapest available in the U.S.
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:54 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah, i've seen videos of that. if its not damn near perfect it can screw it up
Jul 21, 2017 at 7:34 PM - KRGraphicsCG: Has anyone successfully printed the lattice torture test on the C2?

 

Jul 22, 2017 5:46 AM - daniel871: I've not seen any brag posts about it.
Jul 22, 2017 7:12 AM - Geof: I think youll be the first KR ! Make a tgread !
Jul 22, 2017 7:13 AM - Geof: Thread***
Jul 22, 2017 3:38 PM - Geof: Hi to Mike Kelly!
Jul 22, 2017 4:51 PM - Geof: anybody got any cool projects going on?

 

Jul 23, 2017 8:23 AM - Bill Monroe: Several cool projects.. but none use 3D printing
Jul 23, 2017 11:12 AM - Geof: Doesn't always have to be 3dp which ya got goin on?
Jul 23, 2017 1:03 PM - Bill Monroe: finishing up a machine for in-process testing of CPAP disposable sets. Making some prototype housings for a company who makes IOT enabled sensors that monitor stormdrain networks.. Putting together the final engineering package on my new shop so I can pull permits..
Jul 23, 2017 1:04 PM - Bill Monroe: But at the moment, getting ready for 2.0's Game Of Thrones party
Jul 23, 2017 1:51 PM - Geof: Very cool. Some serious stuff goin on (and what sounds like an epic party lol)
Jul 23, 2017 5:39 PM - KRGraphicsCG: I've been trying to print this damn lattice and the damn thing keeps messing up. I will try it again
Jul 23, 2017 7:00 PM - Geof: Slow it way down
Jul 23, 2017 8:11 PM - Ed Ferguson: I printed a lattice torture test on the R2 in June. Normal speeds. The C2 should perform the same. http://community.robo3d.com/index.php?threads/robo-r2-overhang-tests.18753/

 

Jul 24, 2017 4:34 AM - JeffTheMess: Happy Monday roboneers
Jul 24, 2017 5:30 AM - Kilrah: Printing a lattice right now
Jul 24, 2017 5:31 AM - Kilrah: on my R2
Jul 24, 2017 5:35 AM - JeffTheMess: got a live stream?
Jul 24, 2017 6:23 AM - Bill Monroe: http://imgur.com/gallery/e04zr
Jul 24, 2017 6:28 AM - Kilrah: nope
Jul 24, 2017 6:29 AM - JeffTheMess: the lion is cool I haven't tried it yet
Jul 24, 2017 6:31 AM - Kilrah: wow
Jul 24, 2017 6:32 AM - Bill Monroe: the real question is.. why? 100 houra, expensive printer.. and you have a blue plastic lion
Jul 24, 2017 6:43 AM - JeffTheMess: for the views
Jul 24, 2017 6:44 AM - JeffTheMess: he is an youtube entertainer
Jul 24, 2017 6:51 AM - Bill Monroe: he needs to rethink his life
Jul 24, 2017 6:55 AM - JeffTheMess: meh, whatever pays the bills
Jul 24, 2017 6:56 AM - Bill Monroe: oh, so he profits from that video?
Jul 24, 2017 6:57 AM - daniel871: Ad revenue.
Jul 24, 2017 6:58 AM - daniel871: Supposedly, the "youtube entertainers" make pretty decent money posting stupid videos like those.
Jul 24, 2017 7:28 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah pretty much, the money is always an upside, no one does it "for the love of entertaining"
Jul 24, 2017 8:08 AM - daniel871: Hell, I'd do it if I could think of a gimmick that wasn't already being used.
Jul 24, 2017 8:11 AM - JeffTheMess: doesn't matter everybody is a clone of everybody else
Jul 24, 2017 8:33 AM - Geof: I wouldn't be able to invest the time into it. Cant imagine how time consuming that can be/is
Jul 24, 2017 8:49 AM - JeffTheMess: yeah, I can't be all giddy for an entire video either
Jul 24, 2017 9:12 AM - daniel871: Register a trademark for "3dPrintingJerk" and get on it.
Jul 24, 2017 9:13 AM - daniel871: 1st video "Why MatterControl is a pile of hot garbage and nobody should use it, use literally any other software and it will work better"
Jul 24, 2017 9:13 AM - daniel871: The Maker Coin will have a middle finger icon in it.
Jul 24, 2017 9:14 AM - JeffTheMess: lulz
Jul 24, 2017 9:15 AM - daniel871: http://3dmag.org/en/market/item/2671/
Jul 24, 2017 9:17 AM - JeffTheMess: i think you should do it Dan
Jul 24, 2017 9:25 AM - danzca6: don't forget to setup your patreon account daniel...I guess that is where you get the real youtube entertainer money
Jul 24, 2017 9:36 AM - danzca6: Joel gets 1156/mo... Angus gets 2020/mo... Tom gets 2968/mo from patreon
Jul 24, 2017 9:42 AM - daniel871: The patreon shoutouts on live videos are the most aggravating things to watch, though.
Jul 24, 2017 9:42 AM - danzca6: agreed
Jul 24, 2017 9:43 AM - daniel871: Also that's kind of low pre-taxes.
Jul 24, 2017 9:44 AM - danzca6: yeah, barely min wage for Joel
Jul 24, 2017 9:44 AM - danzca6: of course he gets Adobe money for his full time job
Jul 24, 2017 10:09 AM - Geof: Hey Danz! Good to see you!
Jul 24, 2017 10:39 AM - danzca6: Hey Geof! Get your UM3 in yet?
Jul 24, 2017 11:09 AM - Geof: nope not yet Not sure if the deal is working out now
Jul 24, 2017 11:09 AM - Geof: D7 in route though
Jul 24, 2017 11:35 AM - JeffTheMess: <---*heavy breathing* Jealous
Jul 24, 2017 11:41 AM - Geof: hopes arnt real high for it. We shall see
Jul 24, 2017 11:44 AM - JeffTheMess: check their facebook community its really good
Jul 24, 2017 11:44 AM - JeffTheMess: the prints I see from there are pretty damn good
Jul 24, 2017 11:45 AM - cthig: can you guys check out my post in the r1 troubleshooting tab
Jul 24, 2017 11:45 AM - cthig: i need all the help i can get
Jul 24, 2017 11:58 AM - Geof: Jeff- I've seen some good ones as well yes. Seen the FB group. Not a FB fan
Jul 24, 2017 11:58 AM - Geof: Cthig yes
Jul 24, 2017 12:00 PM - Geof: looks like Mark has you under control buddy
Jul 24, 2017 12:42 PM - daniel871: Alternative option:
Jul 24, 2017 1:01 PM - Geof: I think you may be the alone in that club so far
Jul 24, 2017 1:46 PM - daniel871: Man, I'm trying to source some 1" 4130 tubing for the big MPCNC build and not having any luck with local shops, but prices online are pretty high so far.

 

Jul 24, 2017 10:16 PM - krouton3: well i did a quick calculation on how long it will take me to print off the remaining parts for this arm cannon.. i have 30 parts left its gonna take 188 hrs and 15min of print time and take 2481grams of filament =/
Jul 25, 2017 3:58 AM - daniel871: Eh. That's not so bad. Depending on where you buy filament that can be anywhere from 1.5-2.5 spools.
Jul 25, 2017 4:50 AM - JeffTheMess: morning roboneers
Jul 25, 2017 4:56 AM - Bill Monroe: Jeff
Jul 25, 2017 5:01 AM - WheresWaldo: Billy, long time!!!
Jul 25, 2017 5:01 AM - WheresWaldo: Hey there Jeff
Jul 25, 2017 5:02 AM - Bill Monroe: hey Waldo.. ya kinda got distracted for awhile
Jul 25, 2017 5:03 AM - WheresWaldo: Yeah, I have been under water with a lot of design requests lately, plus I took a small detour into UV Resin 3D printing.
Jul 25, 2017 5:04 AM - JeffTheMess: your on 3dhub
Jul 25, 2017 5:05 AM - WheresWaldo: Not on 3DHubs. I have a shapeways page and do a lot of small designs for bicycle accessories.
Jul 25, 2017 5:06 AM - Bill Monroe: my mother passed right before xmas, 2.0 and I have been building a home for my Dad on our place in Joshua Tree.. We now have a genuine complex up here
Jul 25, 2017 5:07 AM - WheresWaldo: Sorry to hear about your mother. I am 2500 miles from mine and I don't talk to her enough. I need to be a better son she is 85 this year.
Jul 25, 2017 5:07 AM - Bill Monroe: bad boy
Jul 25, 2017 5:08 AM - Bill Monroe: mine has succumbed to dimentia 10 years ago so really it was a good thing.. and now Dad can rest
Jul 25, 2017 5:10 AM - Bill Monroe: and he LOVES the desert weather... his new dad-shack as a great sweeping view, his dog now has my golden and porkie as buddies....He's pretty freekin happy
Jul 25, 2017 5:11 AM - WheresWaldo: Good to hear, keep your dad close, while he is still with you.
Jul 25, 2017 5:12 AM - Bill Monroe: after never owning anything but a Cadillac... he just bought a Smart Car!
Jul 25, 2017 5:12 AM - Bill Monroe: that is the funniest thing.. watching him putt around in that go kart
Jul 25, 2017 5:12 AM - WheresWaldo: lol
Jul 25, 2017 5:18 AM - Bill Monroe: anyway.. my Robo is in the closet.. havnt powered it up in months
Jul 25, 2017 5:24 AM - WheresWaldo: Mine is still on but I haven't printed anything with it in three weeks.
Jul 25, 2017 5:25 AM - Bill Monroe: I may bust it out again.. I had intended to make a replacement for my ABS printer after I sold it but havnt had time
Jul 25, 2017 5:27 AM - WheresWaldo: Pick up one of those Chinese LCD UV printers, been using it to make test prints of my models.
Jul 25, 2017 5:28 AM - Bill Monroe: I dunno... need something that will make durable prints impervious to heat and UV deterioration.. ABS so far has done the job
Jul 25, 2017 5:29 AM - WheresWaldo: It is a pretty good choice considering your requirements. My printing now is basically proofs of concept. It they don't last more than a week I don't really care. No heat or UV issues here.
Jul 25, 2017 5:30 AM - Bill Monroe: nice
Jul 25, 2017 5:30 AM - Bill Monroe: i know the finish is awesome
Jul 25, 2017 5:30 AM - Bill Monroe: i need stuff that will survive outdoors in the desert
Jul 25, 2017 5:30 AM - WheresWaldo: I print a lot of stuff in transparent resin, that way I can visualize the internal structures.
Jul 25, 2017 5:31 AM - Bill Monroe: i have some delrin stuff sitting out in the torture platform right now..
Jul 25, 2017 5:32 AM - WheresWaldo: Love Delrin, it seems to be so versitile and millable too.
Jul 25, 2017 5:32 AM - Bill Monroe: oh man.. it's so easy to machine
Jul 25, 2017 5:33 AM - Bill Monroe: getting ready to make some prototypes from Delrin... First time doing 3D machining on my mill
Jul 25, 2017 6:05 AM - daniel871: Have any of you given ASA filament a shot to compare to ABS? It's a related-material filament that supposedly prints "more easily" than ABS but shares the UV/Environmental resistance.
Jul 25, 2017 6:05 AM - daniel871: Also it's been out as a material for as long as ABS but nobody paid it much attention until relatively recently.
Jul 25, 2017 7:10 AM - daniel871: E3D's MatX is ASA filament, if you're trying to find some.
Jul 25, 2017 8:20 AM - Geof: ABS is cheap so I run that on my "abs" machines. ASA acetone smoothable? Whats the pros for the price increase?
Jul 25, 2017 8:20 AM - Geof: or is it just that if you dont have a ABS friendly machine, this stuff works?
Jul 25, 2017 9:40 AM - daniel871: It smooths the same way ABS does, and it works in machines that would otherwise need you to build an enclosure around it.
Jul 25, 2017 9:41 AM - daniel871: Also, S3D dropped a big update this morning and nerds are freaking out about it.
Jul 25, 2017 9:46 AM - Geof: gotya. Neat on the ASA. Already have the 4.0- downloaded. Not much really of interest to me. maybe the smoother implementation of different processes but meh the old way worked fine too
Jul 25, 2017 9:46 AM - daniel871: Yeah, most of the updates are about smoother-implementation of things that were already there.
Jul 25, 2017 9:47 AM - daniel871: Still though, the variable extrusion width is a nice update.
Jul 25, 2017 9:48 AM - daniel871: Having the "dense fill" support be the secondary material and the sparse support being primary material seems like it would be a nice way to have PVA/whatever between your desired print and the support with minimal "blips" from removing support.
Jul 25, 2017 9:49 AM - daniel871: Also LOL at how hard their site is being hit right now.
Jul 25, 2017 10:00 AM - Geof: yea I got mine early. The PVA is neat form a hobbyist stand point, I charge out for any PVA use so that wasn't a wow for me either. lol.
Jul 25, 2017 10:01 AM - Geof: Plus most mechanical designs dont need PVA so meh. all in all same ole same ole
Jul 25, 2017 11:36 AM - daniel871: "Brim for supports" is nice vs. having to specify some massive brim amount to cover all possible supports.
Jul 25, 2017 11:41 AM - daniel871: I'd be interested in playing with the "improved sequential printing" bit, too. It'd be nice to be able to do complete object prints in a row on the Y-axis without having to do multiple setups or put up with multiple rapids between parts without any defects in the parts where those rapid moves happen (also cut down the rapid moves to decrease print time).
Jul 25, 2017 1:11 PM - Geof: yea it is nice for the sequential part. I use it on my Type A and UM all the time. Its very cool for quick run short parts.

 

Jul 26, 2017 at 1:25 AM - Kilrah: oh nice about the brim around supports, was actually surprised it didn't do it since every other slicer I've used does
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:31 AM - danzca6: yeah the gap has been closing around S3D and their free competitors for some time. Not sure if 4.0 added enough to be a huge standout it once was. Some of the stuff are catch-up features that other slicers have already added.
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:33 AM - Geof: Until the "free ones" work as well and have the support manipulation I'll stay with S3D for the majority of my machines.
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:33 AM - Geof: That said I dont have the "failures" other people report with S3D
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:33 AM - danzca6: yeah if you already invested in S3D it makes sense to stay
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:34 AM - danzca6: I just see less and less of a need to spend the $150
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:34 AM - Geof: nah I'd still buy it today. The support placement and removal is huge (expecially on large build machines).
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:34 AM - danzca6: of course it isn't my living either
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:34 AM - Geof: Cura is doing well. Slic3r PE is fine for my Prusa lol.
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:35 AM - Geof: but they really need to implement the support manipulation for me to break away from S3D...plus the print times are way different (in a good way) so improved tool paths would be cool
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:35 AM - Geof: (in the free ones).
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:36 AM - Geof: I still need to play with dual extrusion in S3D now that its "fixed" to see if it can even come close to competing with BCN Cura
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:36 AM - danzca6: yeah with your harem of printers and all the different prints you do I can see making the investment
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:36 AM - Geof: It use to be horrible
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:37 AM - Geof: being able to do a tower or two of supports vs auto generated supports is often the difference between one spool doing the print with a bit left over to having to coordinate a filament change in the print sometime lol.
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:37 AM - Geof: and that suuuuucccckkkkssssss
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:38 AM - danzca6: cough...filament runout sensor
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:38 AM - Geof: (I like to think of the them as a gaggle of printers ) lol
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:38 AM - Geof: LOL! I have them but I perfer to do the change during infill so its not seen and even then you may "bump" it to where you wasted a full spool
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:38 AM - danzca6: hahaha....it's a s%$t ton
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:39 AM - Geof: LOL! Were approaching that amount
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:39 AM - danzca6: when does the D7 arrive?
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:39 AM - Geof: I dont think were there anymore (I have way more room than I use to ! lol)
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:39 AM - Geof: says Friday
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:39 AM - daniel871: Christ. Does anyone actually use Twitter around here? The Orange Turd just did something even more monumentally stupid than usual.
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:39 AM - daniel871: Literally just said he was going to ban an entire class of citizens from serving in the military.
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:40 AM - danzca6: I took all social media stuff off my phone so I just read about 20 minutes a day on my PC at home if I get the time
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:41 AM - daniel871: I kept it so I can get that spike of anger to get good and awake every day because I'm not allowed to have coffee any more.
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:42 AM - danzca6: hahaha...that will do it
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:42 AM - danzca6: Geof, love to see what you think of the SLA world
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:42 AM - danzca6: can S3D even work with SLA?
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:42 AM - daniel871: The only thing stopping me from getting the D7 is the semi-active maintenance with toxic material handling.
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:44 AM - daniel871: I'm pretty sure S3D is 100% FDM, but looking at the supported printers list now.
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:44 AM - Geof: No not with SLA.
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:45 AM - Geof: all the cool kids appear to be running pi for the D7 (nano DLP) so I'll be joining that
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:45 AM - Geof: (already set up just waiting on the machine lol)
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:47 AM - Geof: Yea the awesomely terrible materials is pretty suck but meh lol. Can only stick with only FDM for so long right gotta expand the capabilities
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:47 AM - daniel871: Yeah, no supported SLA printers in the list.
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:48 AM - daniel871: I'm pretty sure some people have done some kludging to use Simplify3d to generate Gcode and then the printer itself interprets the G-code to make the SLA print, but it just ends up looking like an FDM part.
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:49 AM - Geof: yea its best to keep the processes seperate I think
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:49 AM - Geof: FDM for FDM stuff and resin for resin stuff.
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:49 AM - Geof:
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:51 AM - daniel871: Also I'm not too sure about how much real hassle it is to keep the printer running with all of the consumable parts in it. No real data on the lifespan of the LED screen vs. an FDM printer's hotend, for example.
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:52 AM - daniel871: Or even LED screens vs. lasers in the printers that use lasers.
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:52 AM - danzca6: well I hope it works out for you Geof. If it's reliable, it will make a nice offering for your customers
Jul 26, 2017 at 6:52 AM - daniel871: (cost of replacement vs. lifespan)
Jul 26, 2017 at 7:16 AM - Geof: Hey guys sorry bit crazy today. Daniel- I'm guessing twice the cost of FDM at 2x the interval
Jul 26, 2017 at 7:16 AM - Geof: (thats being conservative)
Jul 26, 2017 at 7:16 AM - Geof: the LCD is cheap sub 70.00, I imagine it wont last a year.
Jul 26, 2017 at 7:16 AM - Geof: The FEP sheets are suggested to change every 2 bottles
Jul 26, 2017 at 7:33 AM - WheresWaldo: Prusa will sort of slice for SLA, it will convert an STL to an SVG almost instantly no mattter how big or complex. Then the host control program like nanoDLP can slice that a bit faster than straight from STL
Jul 26, 2017 at 7:37 AM - WheresWaldo: nanoDLP also now support remote slicing from a PC/Mac/Linux or even from another rPi. Photonic3D has a javascript slicer that can pretty much work cross platform.
Jul 26, 2017 at 7:46 AM - Geof: I think I'll just use the nano
Jul 26, 2017 at 7:46 AM - Geof: I dont mind waiting since I'll be waiting 6+ hours for a print bwahahaha
Jul 26, 2017 at 9:17 AM - WheresWaldo: I have sliced some pretty high polygon count models and only seen the most complex one take about 5 minutes to slice. Nice thing is since the slices are just PNG files you can start printing as soon as the first PNG is written to the SD card
Jul 26, 2017 at 12:10 PM - Geof: Thats good to know! Got my Pi3 ready and set up with nano dlp image, just waiting on the darn printe r
Jul 26, 2017 at 12:10 PM - Geof: lol
Jul 26, 2017 at 12:17 PM - daniel871: Aw, that "3D Printing Professor" got an Anycubic Kossel delta and he's reviewing it. That's adorable.
Jul 26, 2017 at 12:21 PM - daniel871: 3 minutes spent on how the motion control works vs. a cartesian printer as though delta robots are a new idea.
Jul 26, 2017 at 12:25 PM - danzca6: some may not know
Jul 26, 2017 at 12:39 PM - Geof: I have one of those with the linear rails. Not very safe from a firmware perspetive. Thermal runaway is not enabled. pull the thermistor and watch her burn
Jul 26, 2017 at 12:40 PM - Geof: mine has been fixed since then, just a comment on something I thought was wierd concerning that brand printer
Jul 26, 2017 at 12:52 PM - daniel871: I would assume you'd flash current Marlin on it and check that kind of thing, though. Even a cursory search about what kind of 3d printer to get tells you that Deltas are not for beginners.
Jul 26, 2017 at 12:53 PM - Geof: I did not. I built it, since had to flash their firmware on it I just decided to look at the safety side and saw that and some odd max temps so fixed that and used their firmware (with those changes).
Jul 26, 2017 at 12:53 PM - Geof: Deltas are quite irritating to get tuned in. I got mine rolling pretty quickly and it sits in a corner lol.
Jul 26, 2017 at 12:54 PM - Geof: I have to many other machines that are more "stable" than a delta.

 

Jul 27, 2017 12:07 PM - daniel871: Anybody in Dallas, TX interested in a $700 RPSLA printer? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/805820742923208
Jul 27, 2017 12:14 PM - Geof: LMAO thats funny
Jul 27, 2017 12:18 PM - WheresWaldo: The LittleRP has been accepted by the community of users as a perfectly capable SLA printer.
Jul 27, 2017 12:21 PM - Geof: I have always found them "cute" lol
Jul 27, 2017 2:17 PM - cthig: hello
Jul 27, 2017 2:17 PM - cthig: anyone online?
Jul 27, 2017 2:51 PM - Geof: always . Responded to your PPM
Jul 27, 2017 2:51 PM - Geof: PM*
Jul 27, 2017 7:03 PM - Toro1966: Hey guys quick question -iut's been a while. After updating the firmware with arduino - what commands do I need to send again? Is it M502, and then M500?

 

Jul 28, 2017 3:01 AM - WheresWaldo: Yes
Jul 28, 2017 4:45 AM - KRGraphicsCG: Morning guys
Jul 28, 2017 5:46 AM - Geof: good morning
Jul 28, 2017 6:07 AM - Bill Monroe: Friday
Jul 28, 2017 7:30 AM - daniel871: #FailureFriday
Jul 28, 2017 11:41 AM - daniel871:
Jul 28, 2017 11:41 AM - daniel871: First review of the mini delta is up by probably the worst reviewer I've ever listened to.
Jul 28, 2017 11:45 AM - daniel871: LOL at the car analogy regarding print speeds and acceleration.
Jul 28, 2017 11:51 AM - Geof: I couldn't watch it.
Jul 28, 2017 11:51 AM - Geof: lol
Jul 28, 2017 11:59 AM - daniel871: It almost sounds like a text-to-speech program.
Jul 28, 2017 12:00 PM - daniel871: If you mute the sound and just skip forward you'll start seeing sample prints that look surprisingly good.
Jul 28, 2017 12:00 PM - daniel871: Still a few artifacts in some of them, but I think that's more the guy making the video not really being all that good at adjusting slicer settings.
Jul 28, 2017 6:52 PM - toymaker: i got my deltas highly tuned... only took surface plate, height gauge, dial indicator, and a starret master 12" sqaure

 

Jul 29, 2017 at 7:10 AM - Bill Monroe: What the heck is going on in Imgur??? all the posts look like family photos from liberals....
Jul 29, 2017 at 8:03 AM - daniel871: https://www.google.com/amp/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=July%2029&amp=true
Jul 29, 2017 at 8:46 AM - NFOsec: Bill: too funny...

 

Jul 30, 2017 2:25 PM - Jerry RoBo 3D: I'm looking for the thread that discusses the robo filament not fitting on the R2. can anyone link me to that?
Jul 30, 2017 2:51 PM - Toro1966: Here you go. not sure if this is the same one you're looking for. http://community.robo3d.com/index.php?threads/old-robo-filament-new-r2.19028/
Jul 30, 2017 5:03 PM - Geof: That's the one, thanks toro
Jul 30, 2017 7:27 PM - danzca6: Haha, yeah I saw Garrett has about a dozen rolls of Robo filament that won't fit in the universal spool holder that comes on the R2...I found it funny
Jul 30, 2017 7:36 PM - danzca6: I sent them that link... Hopefully it helps

 

Jul 31, 2017 at 7:59 AM - Geof: I did as well. They just arnt having a good go lol
Jul 31, 2017 at 8:42 AM - daniel871: What's the deal with people getting scratches on the door from the bed lowering as it prints?
Jul 31, 2017 at 8:42 AM - daniel871: Warped door panels that bow inward?
Jul 31, 2017 at 9:08 AM - daniel871: This is a work of Art: http://i.imgur.com/yRXBaRA.gifv
Jul 31, 2017 at 9:41 AM - KRGraphicsCG: Hey guys... has anyone measured the print bed on the C2?
Jul 31, 2017 at 9:41 AM - KRGraphicsCG: The bed is 5 3/4in
Jul 31, 2017 at 9:49 AM - KRGraphicsCG: I can knock out a large print like a vase
Jul 31, 2017 at 1:10 PM - OutsourcedGuru: @KRGraphicsCG I've managed to tweak my Cura settings to print slightly beyond the maximum footprint for the C2.
Jul 31, 2017 at 1:10 PM - OutsourcedGuru: But you have to be careful because in some cases this results in a raft getting narrowed, making it difficult to remove.
Jul 31, 2017 at 1:11 PM - OutsourcedGuru: See http://community.robo3d.com/index.php?threads/pushing-the-edge-of-print-volume.18778/
Jul 31, 2017 at 1:13 PM - OutsourcedGuru: And for what it's worth, the black tape squares are slightly less than your 5.75".
Jul 31, 2017 at 1:36 PM - daniel871:
Jul 31, 2017 at 1:36 PM - daniel871: I'm dyin'
Jul 31, 2017 at 1:40 PM - KRGraphicsCG: I could change the print bed settings in Cura to accommodate things like printing vases.
Jul 31, 2017 at 1:41 PM - KRGraphicsCG: especially tapered ones that go beyond the print size
Jul 31, 2017 at 7:10 PM - OutsourcedGuru: @KRGraphicsCG What I do is to run the G0 X0, for example, from the OctoPrint interface and then use a caliper to measure the distance from the edge of the bed.
Jul 31, 2017 at 7:11 PM - OutsourcedGuru: You can then run a G0 X125 (or X135) and see if it actually moves to the new extent that you have in mind.
Jul 31, 2017 at 7:11 PM - OutsourcedGuru: I have considered actually moving the physical switches which limit the edges of the travel but haven't done so yet.
Jul 31, 2017 at 7:14 PM - OutsourcedGuru: @daniel871 "I found my Nirvana!"

 

Aug 1, 2017 8:14 AM - Geof: Good Morning all
Aug 1, 2017 8:52 AM - Toro1966: Morning everyone. Sorry it's been a while. I have been crazy busy.
Aug 1, 2017 8:59 AM - Geof: Hey Toro! Good to see you
Aug 1, 2017 10:14 AM - Toro1966: Thaks Geof. Been crazy busy. Hope you guys have been well.
Aug 1, 2017 10:53 AM - Geof: hangin in there meltin some plastic. ya know, same ole same hbu?
Aug 1, 2017 11:57 AM - Toro1966: Moved to California...!
Aug 1, 2017 12:09 PM - daniel871: Fell for "West Coast, Best Coast" or?
Aug 1, 2017 12:11 PM - Toro1966: Nah. Military transfer lol
Aug 1, 2017 12:31 PM - JeffTheMess: Nice Cali is very chill
Aug 1, 2017 12:46 PM - Toro1966: Not bad so far.
Aug 1, 2017 2:14 PM - daniel871: LOL at people in some groups obsessing over running prints tethered to their PC on printers that have LCDs/controls built onto the printer with SD card slots.
Aug 1, 2017 2:15 PM - daniel871: Somebody was all "My printer didn't come with a USB cable" and I replied "If only if there were some kind of memory storage that could be inserted into the machine that was more reliable than a USB connection."
Aug 1, 2017 3:35 PM - OutsourcedGuru: @Toro1966 SOCAL...? I'm here in San Diego, btw.
Aug 1, 2017 3:36 PM - OutsourcedGuru: @daniel871 Every day I'm perplexed at the average person's anti-knowledge in the area of I.T.
Aug 1, 2017 7:01 PM - Bill Monroe: Did someone say San Diego?

 

Aug 2, 2017 7:07 AM - Toro1966: I'm actually in Ventura
Aug 2, 2017 7:17 AM - Geof: Good Morning All
Aug 2, 2017 7:33 AM - daniel871: This post made me chuckle. https://www.facebook.com/groups/WanhaoDi3/permalink/882658458552053/
Aug 2, 2017 7:35 AM - daniel871: For the hipsters that aren't on Facebook:
Aug 2, 2017 7:47 AM - Geof: hipsters? I'm no hipster
Aug 2, 2017 12:09 PM - daniel871: Ugh, I wish they'd send Hucky Boo Boo packing and bring Sean Spicer back for these Press Briefings. At least he was funny.
Aug 2, 2017 12:39 PM - OutsourcedGuru: @Bill Monroe I did indeed. @Toto1966 I think my father was stationed at Pt. Mugu for a bit.
Aug 2, 2017 12:56 PM - daniel871: Hm. https://wtfsigte.com

 

Aug 3, 2017 6:14 AM - Geof: Good Morning
Aug 3, 2017 8:41 AM - OutsourcedGuru: Good morning, Geof. I likely get fired at 3PM today (PST). Ought to be interesting.
Aug 3, 2017 8:47 AM - Geof: that doesn't sound like a very good morning
Aug 3, 2017 8:54 AM - OutsourcedGuru: Yes and no. If you're calm about it and you have everything in order, it can be one of the best mornings ever.
Aug 3, 2017 8:58 AM - Geof: true
Aug 3, 2017 8:58 AM - Geof: Good luck either way !
Aug 3, 2017 9:01 AM - OutsourcedGuru: Good can come out of it; I could be hired somewhere else where I enjoy things better. I've applied to Robo, for what it's worth.
Aug 3, 2017 9:20 AM - NFOsec: Gosh, that bakery from yesterday looked good...
Aug 3, 2017 9:28 AM - NFOsec: How are the Robonaults today?
Aug 3, 2017 9:29 AM - WheresWaldo: Hey NFO we are walking on the top side of the grass today.
Aug 3, 2017 9:29 AM - NFOsec: that's nice dude... I always remembered back in the early days when the Cub's Stadium was being built, the foreman told the Polish immigrants to plant the sod green side up.
Aug 3, 2017 9:30 AM - NFOsec: I'm just prepping my system to install that Olsson Ruby hot end, had it since it came out but have been procrastinating... what's up with you?
Aug 3, 2017 9:34 AM - WheresWaldo: Been playing with different slicers today as well as doing as bit of work on my LCD Resin printer.
Aug 3, 2017 9:36 AM - NFOsec: That's cool. I've only been sticking with the Simpliy3D and Cura myself... I use S3D exclusively for most prints now since 4.0 came out and it's a MUCH better repair and slicing utility than before.
Aug 3, 2017 9:36 AM - NFOsec: I remember your initial efforts on the LCD Resin, making anything or still in build mode?
Aug 3, 2017 9:47 AM - NFOsec: mmph brb...
Aug 3, 2017 9:50 AM - WheresWaldo: Printing now, done with modifying Marlin and upgrades. now has a Makerbase Base-L controller and Marlin 1.0.2 running as well as an internal rPi3 with nanoDLP.
Aug 3, 2017 9:57 AM - Geof: Waldo is killin the resin scene
Aug 3, 2017 10:14 AM - Toro1966: Looking to potentially upgrade from my R1+'s. I thew R2orht it. What should be my next move?
Aug 3, 2017 10:15 AM - Toro1966: Sorry, is the R2 worth it?
Aug 3, 2017 10:16 AM - Geof: Seems to be some issues with the R2
Aug 3, 2017 10:16 AM - Geof: what are you looking for? (I dont have a R2 so just speaking from what I'm seeing)
Aug 3, 2017 10:18 AM - Toro1966: Seeing the same thing - thought geenrally only those with problems are vocal - so it might not be as bad. Looking for a little better build volume and possible dual extrusion. Was looking at the N2+ - pricey but seems pretty good.
Aug 3, 2017 10:19 AM - Toro1966: I also want a little better quality.Don't get me wrong. Mt Robo prints pretty darn nicely, but I have seen better.resolution
Aug 3, 2017 10:20 AM - Geof: dual extrusion IMO is the Sigma or UM3
Aug 3, 2017 10:20 AM - Geof: bigger build volume? CR10, Ultimaker, Sigma kinda?, (cr10 is the cheapest I can say works)
Aug 3, 2017 10:20 AM - Geof: the others get espensive lol
Aug 3, 2017 10:21 AM - Toro1966: have heard mixed things regarding ultimaker
Aug 3, 2017 10:21 AM - Geof: the UM3?
Aug 3, 2017 10:22 AM - Geof: or ultimaker in general?
Aug 3, 2017 10:22 AM - Toro1966: Yep.
Aug 3, 2017 10:22 AM - Toro1966: UM3
Aug 3, 2017 10:22 AM - Geof: meh depends on what ya want. lol. Sigma is a mixed bag too. Dual extrusion is...hard.
Aug 3, 2017 10:22 AM - Geof: I personally bought the sigma (before the UM3 was out) and even now wouldn't have gone a different route. Though the original sigmas had some issues the R17 upgrades are fantastic.
Aug 3, 2017 10:23 AM - Toro1966: also, I have little experience in dual extrusion. I just know that I print a lot of novelty things for family and friends and changing filament can be a PITA. How difficult is it - with adual extrusion printer - to slcie a file for multiple colors? Does S3D let you do that natively?
Aug 3, 2017 10:23 AM - Toro1966: Was waiting to hear the reviews of Prusas multi color
Aug 3, 2017 10:23 AM - Geof: yes it has a dual extrusion wizard. The hard part is modeling 2 seperate parts that fit togather perfectly (thats how dual extrusion works)
Aug 3, 2017 10:24 AM - Geof: It seems to have issues but dual extrusion is hard so 4xthat would hard as well.
Aug 3, 2017 10:24 AM - Geof: The real hard part is modeling for dual extrusion
Aug 3, 2017 10:24 AM - Geof: (its easier to paint )
Aug 3, 2017 10:25 AM - Toro1966: Lol - so can I take a regular file from thingiverse and print in dual colors with the S3D wizard?
Aug 3, 2017 10:25 AM - Toro1966: how do you like the sigma?
Aug 3, 2017 10:26 AM - Toro1966: Does it have wireless capability or camera capability?
Aug 3, 2017 10:53 AM - Geof: nope not out of the box. its a standard sd card reading printer with a touch screen.
Aug 3, 2017 10:53 AM - Geof: nothing fancy (just the way I like em lol)
Aug 3, 2017 10:53 AM - Geof: you can add a pi and a camera to it no problem if wanted. and no to the regular file from thingiverse. No machine can do that.
Aug 3, 2017 10:53 AM - Geof: download a dual extrusion print from thingiverse like the nervous system tree frog. You'll see there are 2 .stl files that match up perfectly to eachother (Like 2 puzzle pieces)
Aug 3, 2017 10:54 AM - Geof: thats how the 2 colors/materials work.
Aug 3, 2017 10:54 AM - Toro1966: ahh. got it. Thanks!
Aug 3, 2017 10:56 AM - daniel871: It's kind of weird watching people in the group for the Monoprice Delta fumbling around because they made the mistake of making their first 3d printer a delta.
Aug 3, 2017 10:56 AM - daniel871: And one that was out of the first manufactured batch in a pre-order.
Aug 3, 2017 10:57 AM - daniel871: "How do I get my printer to read STL files?" level stuff.
Aug 3, 2017 10:57 AM - daniel871: :facepalm:
Aug 3, 2017 11:00 AM - Geof: thats why I stay away from Facebook
Aug 3, 2017 11:00 AM - Geof: no problem Toro. Hit me up if you have any other questions
Aug 3, 2017 11:01 AM - daniel871: I use facebook as a general filter to keep in touch with people that I don't want randomly calling me on my phone.
Aug 3, 2017 11:02 AM - daniel871: And the Facebook app on my phone has notifications disabled, so I only see updates when I actually open the app.
Aug 3, 2017 11:07 AM - Geof: I find more headache then good with it some people really like it but trying to help people with their tech on there is sort of like teaching someone to cut glass without a glass cutter
Aug 3, 2017 11:27 AM - daniel871:
Aug 3, 2017 1:02 PM - OutsourcedGuru: Wow, I did not know that about dual extruders (requiring two separate STL files). That. Kind. Of. Sucks.
Aug 3, 2017 1:15 PM - daniel871: That's just for hobby level machines due to the limitations of STL files.
Aug 3, 2017 1:18 PM - daniel871: The big actual full color industrial 3d printers use VRML or some proprietary format.
Aug 3, 2017 1:18 PM - daniel871: And they have a lot of caveats about the limitations of their machines, but they do help you save everything as a single file for their software to slice.
Aug 3, 2017 1:19 PM - daniel871: I think Shapeways even has a semi-tutorial for doing it with 3DSMAX and a handful of other programs.
Aug 3, 2017 1:20 PM - daniel871: https://www.shapeways.com/tutorials/full_color_3d_printing_from_3ds_max
Aug 3, 2017 1:20 PM - daniel871: https://www.shapeways.com/tutorials/fixing_maya_full_color_vrml_with_magics
Aug 3, 2017 1:21 PM - NFOsec: what a freak.
Aug 3, 2017 1:21 PM - daniel871: Eh?
Aug 3, 2017 1:22 PM - NFOsec: LOL. I knew you were still awake. How goes Daniel?
Aug 3, 2017 1:24 PM - NFOsec: mmm... been a long time, I think I need to heat up the hot end before attempting to remove the heat shield from the hot-end base.
Aug 3, 2017 1:42 PM - daniel871: I'm in kind of a bad place right now. I've run out of things to print.
Aug 3, 2017 1:42 PM - daniel871: Also random weirdos sending me messages asking what printer I'd recommend that wasn't a Robo printer, wtf.
Aug 3, 2017 1:49 PM - daniel871: "Whatever you can afford between these options: Monoprice Mini V2, Original Prusa MK2, the latest Makergear, the latest Ultimaker, Raise3D N2"
Aug 3, 2017 1:50 PM - daniel871: "Or just mortgage a house and jump straight to the big leagues with a Stratasys".
Aug 3, 2017 2:00 PM - Toro1966: So what do you think about the N2+? I saw it listed above an dhave looked at it before. Just wasn't sure what the general consensus was on it.
Aug 3, 2017 2:08 PM - daniel871: I think the general consensus is "Average/expected performance for machines at that price point".
Aug 3, 2017 2:09 PM - daniel871: AKA "Unicorn kickstarter printer that actually resulted in a successful company"
Aug 3, 2017 2:10 PM - daniel871: You can download their IdeaMaker slicer and give it a shot on printers you already own to get an idea of how their machine will perform with the profiles they created for it.
Aug 3, 2017 2:11 PM - daniel871: https://www.raise3d.com/pages/ideamaker
Aug 3, 2017 2:11 PM - daniel871: Maker's Muse gave it a shoutout as a surprisingly good new free slicer people can use alongside Slic3r Prusa Edition and Cura
Aug 3, 2017 2:26 PM - WheresWaldo: Dan, I have been playing with Ideamaker most of the day, it borrows a lot from S3D
Aug 3, 2017 2:29 PM - daniel871: Angus made a similar comment about it. Something like "Very close to but not quite S3D, just a small number of features missing, but still really good software"
Aug 3, 2017 2:32 PM - WheresWaldo: I am still not a fan of S3D pricing and licensing structure, it isa about time someone with a free slicer competes. Prusa could if it wanted to, Cura wants the whole world to own Ultimakers.
Aug 3, 2017 2:48 PM - daniel871: That makes sense though, since Ultimaker develops Cura.
Aug 3, 2017 2:49 PM - daniel871: Pretty much anything is still better than MatterControl, still, right?
Aug 3, 2017 2:51 PM - NFOsec: definitely the truth Daniel...
Aug 3, 2017 2:51 PM - NFOsec: I am a strong S3D fan, but I'm confused, what pricing and licensing structure?
Aug 3, 2017 2:51 PM - NFOsec: I thought it was flat priced?
Aug 3, 2017 2:52 PM - NFOsec: oh, adding additional licenses at the same cost, yeah, that sucks.
Aug 3, 2017 2:53 PM - NFOsec: daniel, so, I'm right, removing heat sink or whatever that radiator is called should be best done after heating up the block eh? I would hate to break that thing.
Aug 3, 2017 3:11 PM - daniel871: If you're talking to me I need a reminder of what you're talking about.
Aug 3, 2017 3:12 PM - daniel871: If you mean the hotend on a given printer, yeah, usually you at least want it "warmed up" so that if there is any melted filament stuck in the heat break it doesn't act in a way that causes you to, er, break it.
Aug 3, 2017 3:12 PM - NFOsec: the radiator (heat shield or aluminum-ribbed part) that goes from the extruder to the heat block -- a fan clips on there...
Aug 3, 2017 3:13 PM - NFOsec: heat break... that's the word.
Aug 3, 2017 3:13 PM - NFOsec: yeah...
Aug 3, 2017 3:13 PM - NFOsec: I'll probably have to heat that baby up to 200 just to be safe.
Aug 3, 2017 3:14 PM - NFOsec: I should order a spare or two just in case this stuff becomes antiquated. I'm installing the Olsson Ruby hot head, have been flawless printing for ages since I put the Ev6 and Bondtech extruder on there.
Aug 3, 2017 3:14 PM - daniel871: The entire thing should come off of the carriage, and you hold it by the heater block with an adjustable wrench and then loosen things while it cools down (tell it to stop heating before you begin disassembly so that most of the components can cool by the time you're ready to handle them after loosening things.
Aug 3, 2017 3:14 PM - NFOsec: what, maybe 21 months now?
Aug 3, 2017 3:14 PM - NFOsec: ah, 19.

 

Aug 3, 2017 3:15 PM - daniel871: I could see putting one of those Olsson Ruby nozzles on an Ultimaker or something, but a sub-$1k printer doesn't seem like it gains much unless you're going for "I'm never replacing a nozzle again after this and I have things dialed where I never get clogs"
Aug 3, 2017 3:41 PM - NFOsec: Well, actually the more abraisive filaments greatly benefits from it, including the carbonized ones I have. Far more consistent heating quality at least, but I agree, it's like putting lipstick on a pig.
Aug 3, 2017 3:42 PM - NFOsec: pretty pig, still makes bacon.
Aug 3, 2017 3:42 PM - NFOsec: bbiaf.

 

Aug 4, 2017 at 5:11 AM - daniel871: Did anyone see the Prusa MK2 featured in this Cyanide and Happiness skit?
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:01 AM - Geof: daniel...I cant get that time back you know lol
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:12 AM - daniel871: I'd like to see their slicer/settings, haha.
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:16 AM - Toro1966: Morning all.
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:18 AM - Geof: LOL daniel. Good morning Toro
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:23 AM - Toro1966: What's up Daniel?
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:23 AM - Toro1966: What's up Geof?
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:25 AM - Geof: playin with printers learning how to do molds with .stl files for a client
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:28 AM - Toro1966: Nice! I need to really start working on designing my own stuff. I know very little about how to do that. I have made a couple of very basic things in Fusion 360 - but that's it. I also need to try and dial in my printer a little better. It actually prints very well and very consistently comparitively, but I like it looking great with very little to no post processing.
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:31 AM - daniel871: I can design things pretty easily, having the initial idea for something to design is the hard part.
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:39 AM - Toro1966: What's the lowest resolution the Robo can do with a .4 nozzle? .1mm?
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:48 AM - daniel871: Depends on which threaded rods are used on the Z-axis.
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:48 AM - daniel871: You basically want to calculate the Z-distance a full stepper step increment changes and use a multiple of that as your layer height.
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:50 AM - Geof: toro, I've done .05 layers but really if you want to go lower than .1 you should change to a lower nozzle size. The z steps are for sure to be taken into account but on the R1+ .05 is fine.
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:50 AM - Geof: .15 nozzle you can go pretty much whatever size you want
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:50 AM - Geof: just takes 10 years to make a print of good size bahahahhahah
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:51 AM - daniel871: Yeah, that kind if thing is more for situations like
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:51 AM - daniel871: "I'm going on vacation for a week, better set my printer up to make a ridiculously fine layer height object and let it run the whole time.
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:52 AM - daniel871: (With a UPS that has a large reservoir of power on it, and a full spool of filament).
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:56 AM - Geof: lol I use it for mini stuff or high detail hollow stuff. Its fun to play with. .25 or .3 is much more "balanced"
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:59 AM - daniel871: Here I am using .8mm because nothing I'm printing needs intricate details and printing a .8mm means my print times are effectively cut in half for the same general layer/detail settings.
Aug 4, 2017 at 8:38 AM - Geof: yea when I do that on my gmax I use a 1.0 and a volcano
Aug 4, 2017 at 8:38 AM - Geof: huge stuff in a few hours (if that) even with that gigantor build plate
Aug 4, 2017 at 8:40 AM - OutsourcedGuru: Hey everyone... (didn't get fiyahd yesterday, yay).
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:04 AM - Toro1966: Thanks. I just prefer ess layer lines and smoother finish if that makes sense
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:10 AM - daniel871: Depends on the filament you're using and how easy/hard it is to smooth the finish after printing.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:10 AM - daniel871: If you want truly smooth layers and very little post processing, you're going to have to go for SLA.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:11 AM - daniel871: Well, beyond the alcohol bath and UV curing.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:12 AM - Toro1966: Problem with SLA is it is still a pain in post processing and messy - rinsing, etc.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:12 AM - Toro1966: I know - I am not easily pleased
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:12 AM - Toro1966: Is there an easier way to smooth PLA besides sanding?
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:15 AM - daniel871: Get some MEK and vapor smooth the same way you use acetone for ABS, but it's a lot more dangerous to do that.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:16 AM - Toro1966: Why is it more dangerous? MEK isn't much more dangerous than Acetone
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:16 AM - daniel871: More for the skin exposure damage related things than flashpoints.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:17 AM - daniel871: If you could dial PETG in properly all you'd need to smooth the layers on it is a heat gun and judicious use of it.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:17 AM - Toro1966: Got it. I actually print PETG pretty well. key is making sure it's not too low to the bed.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:18 AM - Geof: playin with a D7 and enjoying it Toro. No real complaints nice deetails, just a bit expensive
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:18 AM - Toro1966: Limjited colors though for PETG
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:18 AM - daniel871: By the same token, if you had steady enough hands you could use a soldering iron to smooth PLA.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:18 AM - Geof: if the resin was ....oh IDK...half the price I'd love it lol
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:18 AM - Toro1966: I actually don't paint a lot of my objects. I like the way they look when printed right.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:18 AM - daniel871: Just set the iron at the lowest temperature that it has that still melts PLA to give you more time to smooth it before it just flat out melts on contact and runs.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:19 AM - Toro1966: I agree Geof! Probably going to upgrade the Robo in the near future, been batting it back and forth for some time, just can't make up my mind. Plus, the Robo is printing well.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:19 AM - daniel871: Leave the Robo alone if it is printing well and save up for another machine.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:19 AM - daniel871: There are much better machines out now at the price point you probably bought the Robo for way back when you bought it.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:20 AM - Geof: agreed with Daniel. I love my 2 Robos but getting a high quality machine is nice.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:20 AM - Toro1966: That's what the plan is. Not trying to do anything else to the Robo - looking for another machine. I like the N2+
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:20 AM - Geof: agreed. 800 back in 2014/2015 was cheap. 800 now isn't so "cheap" lol.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:20 AM - Toro1966: Also looked at the Sigma yesterday. Looks like a nice machine. Don't like the proprietary nature of the Ultimaker.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:20 AM - Geof: oh Toro....2 extruders on one carriage is problematic my friend lol.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:21 AM - Geof: I dont recommend it (the 2nd nozzle loves to knock over your prints)
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:21 AM - daniel871: If you can afford an N2 you could probably afford a Makergear and those things are supposed to be incredibly good machines.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:21 AM - Toro1966: Haven't looked at the Makergear.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:21 AM - Geof: I saw the Makergear dual extruder machine at TCT. It looks very very nice.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:22 AM - Geof: Toro I dig the sigma. Its not without its faults and its not "fancy" but when you get it dialed in man it just prints nice.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:22 AM - Toro1966: Biggest problem is that I want a big build volume.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:22 AM - Geof: plus they are constantly updating firmware, their flavor cura, the progen for s3d and materials etc.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:22 AM - Toro1966: I hate putting 10 pieces together LOL. And they never all line up exactly how they should.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:22 AM - daniel871: Here's Makergear's version of the Sigma: https://www.makergear.com/products/m3-dual?variant=43101758095
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:22 AM - Geof: welllllll (IMO) there are no desktop large scale dual extruder machines that work "well"
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:23 AM - Geof: yep thats the one I saw. It seemed to be printing flawlessly.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:23 AM - Toro1966: Can't believe for 3K it doesn't even have an LCD.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:23 AM - Geof: Toro- 2nd part to large format is time does not scale with your print scale. a 10" round 20.5 inch tall hallow print took around 40 hours
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:24 AM - Geof: hollow*** it wasn't sanctified lol
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:24 AM - daniel871: It comes with Octopi already set up on it, Toro.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:25 AM - Toro1966: Ahhh. So i can just use the app on my phone or compuetr
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:25 AM - daniel871: If you must have an LCD the Prusa MK2S leadtimes have dropped to about one week for $800.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:25 AM - daniel871: Yes on the App.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:25 AM - Geof: I like my Prusa alot...but I dont love it. There are better machines in the next price bracket (IMO)
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:26 AM - Geof: Toro Shoot me a DM on large format
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:26 AM - daniel871: The only draw on the Prusa that really holds my attention is the MMU that they support in-house.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:27 AM - daniel871: Actual print quality I've seen on it matches what I get out of my modified i3 that I've only got a total of $400 in.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:27 AM - Geof: I've seen it. They get good results with it and so does very advanced users (or people with lots of time to play with it) but I saw quite alot of defects in the prints
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:28 AM - Geof: It does print nice, but agreed. My robo prints just as well (and actually faster).
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:28 AM - Toro1966: Thanks. Will hit you up Geof.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:30 AM - Geof: Daniel- I will say I built my mk2 kit and ran it a few thousand hours before a real "break" (thermistor failure) and it does print well out of the box so that is something but for people like us that dont mind the tinker, its nothing really "special". I still recommend it to people wanting a reliable machine or just starting out
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:30 AM - Toro1966: Would like to try and keep it around $2k if I can but I am willing to spend a little more if the difference is worth it.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:30 AM - Geof: but advanced users I tend to push to the next price bracket machines. My M200s put the MK2 to shame in print quality and reliability
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:31 AM - daniel871: How's the M300?
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:31 AM - daniel871: Or do you not have that one yet?
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM - Geof: I dont have that one. I wont buy it. I run Z Ultrat (ABS blend) and it runs flawlessly on the M200. M300 doesn't support it
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM - Geof: and I hate their piss poor attempt at making it open source
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM - Geof: but my M200s (all of them) have well over 3k hours , most over 4, some over 5. They just flat out work.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:33 AM - Geof: Toro large format for under 2k is easy. Dual materials...nope lol
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:33 AM - Geof: (not in a way that works reliably)
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:34 AM - daniel871: I still think dual materials are a gimmick outside of very limited applications.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:35 AM - daniel871: The only reason I stare at the Prusa MMU is thinking about how neat it would be to print a bunch of different material components on the plate.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:35 AM - Toro1966: I would say must haves are larger format, great quality, and flexibility of materials.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:36 AM - daniel871: That's pretty standard on most machines out right now that aren't PLA-only gimmick machines.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:36 AM - Toro1966: I print a lot of novelty stuff for the family. I don't sell things but the college coasters, etc are a hit. i do those in multi color.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:36 AM - Toro1966: By changing filamet
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:37 AM - daniel871: You'd probably like the MK2S with the MMU setup that makes changing automatic, then.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:37 AM - daniel871: That or drop the cost of another machine on that Palette thing and hook it up to your current printer.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:37 AM - daniel871: It's ridiculously expensive but it apparently works.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:40 AM - daniel871: Holy crap look at the Zortrax Inventure system. lol
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:45 AM - daniel871: https://zortrax.com/printers/zortrax-inventure/
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:45 AM - daniel871: About 4K, comes with support dissolving station.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:47 AM - Toro1966: Spendy
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:48 AM - Toro1966: I like the MK2 and was going to get one but to be honest it seemed not much better than I have my Robo now.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:51 AM - Geof: there in the same league in my opinion Toro. Daniel that inventure is about 3 years to late lol

 

Aug 4, 2017 at 9:51 AM - Geof: way to expensive and small
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:53 AM - daniel871: I know, hence the lol
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:54 AM - daniel871: Eh. I like the Y-carriage on the MK2 much more than the one on the R1.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:54 AM - daniel871: Too much mass & too much hassle to replace if Robo is out of stock.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:55 AM - daniel871: Also the odds of having to replace it are much higher, given how easy it is to shatter the glass.
Aug 4, 2017 at 9:56 AM - daniel871: (can't shatter the PCB on the MK2 by dropping a tool on it)
Aug 4, 2017 at 10:06 AM - Geof: no but that PEI is a pain in the dick lol
Aug 4, 2017 at 10:06 AM - Geof: I hate hate hate it.
Aug 4, 2017 at 10:06 AM - Geof: would much perfer to print on glass, but meh it works i suppose
Aug 4, 2017 at 10:07 AM - Geof: the y on the robo never really bothered me. I print on a glass sheet clipped to the bed so wont replace another bed. The MK2 bed is...wobbly lol. Not very secure.
Aug 4, 2017 at 10:07 AM - Geof: (mine isn't the MK2S, its still just zip ties) Works fine just annoyance.
Aug 4, 2017 at 10:08 AM - Toro1966: Don't want to jinx myself but I have printed a good deal and my bed is just fine.
Aug 4, 2017 at 10:09 AM - Toro1966: I actaully have a spare in a box just in case from Robo lol
Aug 4, 2017 at 10:09 AM - Geof: indeed. My first one lasted a very long time before it chipped. Even with a chip clip a glass sheet to it and good to go
Aug 4, 2017 at 10:09 AM - Geof: not a deal breaker for me
Aug 4, 2017 at 11:36 AM - NFOsec: yo. Anyone have a photo of the wiring coming into the extruder/stepper/hotend/fan area? Robo R2plusyplus... I'm wondering why it seems my wiring went outside the ribbon/rails.
Aug 4, 2017 at 11:40 AM - NFOsec: I must've connected wiring after remounting everything vs. loading it over the top. duh. oh well. later.
Aug 4, 2017 at 12:47 PM - OutsourcedGuru: I show a $3K price for the Zortrax Inventure here at OwlBox3D.com (local retailer), btw.
Aug 4, 2017 at 12:59 PM - Geof: I think its somehwere between 3 and 4k. Not sure. to darn much for outdated tech. granted since its zortrax it will likely be plug and play...but still. good lord
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:13 PM - daniel871: That Owlbox3d has the M200 for 1700 if you're willing to take a "demo" unit. $1,800 +shipping to get one with the enclosure addon.
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:14 PM - OutsourcedGuru: I've been toying with the idea of adding a second extruder to the C2, using that for some kind of water-soluable filament and then figuring out how I could change the slicing to just use this at the transitions.
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:14 PM - OutsourcedGuru: They're a short drive from me, btw. (Owl)
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:16 PM - OutsourcedGuru: So it would be like... 1) raft, 2) second extruder, 3) part and support from 1st extruder up to some specific Z, 4) switch to 2nd extruder for a few layers on the top of that support, 5) back to the 1st extruder to finish the job.
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:16 PM - daniel871: I think Simplify3d has it already where you can just use the soluble material for just the portion where supports would normally touch the part.
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:16 PM - OutsourcedGuru: How much is that again?
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:16 PM - daniel871: Yeah, it's one of the big deal features in the current version.
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:16 PM - daniel871: $150, never expires, always get all upgrades that come out.
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:17 PM - OutsourcedGuru: And there's a water-soluable filament, right?
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:17 PM - OutsourcedGuru: @ 1.75mm
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:17 PM - daniel871: PVA
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:17 PM - OutsourcedGuru: That would work, right?
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:17 PM - OutsourcedGuru: No more fussy break-aways
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:17 PM - daniel871: Yeah, PVA is your water-soluble filament. Just put it in a warm water bath and agitate the water somehow.
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:18 PM - OutsourcedGuru: Coolness
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:19 PM - daniel871: PVA is best bought in small spools though, since the water-soluble nature of it means that you don't want to have to keep a large spool of it dry long-term
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:22 PM - OutsourcedGuru: I have some industrial-sized Tyvek-wrapped desiccant, if that helps.
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:22 PM - OutsourcedGuru: https://www.uline.com/Product/Detai...VXlgNCh3Y9g7AEAYYASABEgI53_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Aug 4, 2017 at 1:28 PM - daniel871: Yeah, you could always toss your spool into one of those when not using it.
Aug 4, 2017 at 7:42 PM - KRGraphicsCG: Sweet Victory... just knocked out a .04mm layer height print... about to try 30 microns

 

Aug 5, 2017 at 5:50 AM - AutopsyTurvy: Two wee quick questions...
Aug 5, 2017 at 5:51 AM - AutopsyTurvy: 1) For the E3D with the ancient kickstarter Robo, do I need the 12v or the 24v? I'm almost sure it's the 12v but I'd feel real dumb getting the wrong one.
Aug 5, 2017 at 5:52 AM - AutopsyTurvy: 2) Do I need to change anything in the firmware if I'm going from E3D v... idk, 3? 4? At least a couple years old now... I know they've changed the thermistor (which is the main reason I want the new one, so sick of the delicate snowflake thermistors) but I haven't touched my firmware in years now.
Aug 5, 2017 at 6:46 AM - WheresWaldo: Thermistor is Type 1 for most glass beads and E3D uses a Type 5 so if you changed your firmware at the time of your first E3D install there would be no need to change it again now. All E3D did was change the physical packaging of the thermistor. This change is made in Configuration.h.
Aug 5, 2017 at 6:48 AM - WheresWaldo: Also it is 12v
Aug 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM - AutopsyTurvy: Cool cool - I must've changed it back then cos I've been using the e3d successfully for a while, but every time I get a clog and break it down to burn it out, I end up breaking the thermistor wires somehow, no matter how careful I am.
Aug 5, 2017 at 7:20 AM - AutopsyTurvy: Part of me just wants to go "the hell with it" and order an R2 but I have a hard time justifying that when (last I checked) my printer still works fine. Better than fine, really, and far better than it really should, considering it's a hot mess.
Aug 5, 2017 at 7:24 AM - WheresWaldo: Yes the new thremistor arrangement encased in the 3mm tube is much more robust than the simple glass bead.
Aug 5, 2017 at 8:27 AM - Toro1966: Morning all

 

Aug 6, 2017 8:21 AM - Toro1966: Morning all.
Aug 6, 2017 8:54 AM - Geof: Good morning toro
Aug 6, 2017 8:57 AM - Toro1966: What you been up to Geof?
Aug 6, 2017 8:57 AM - Toro1966: Thinking about getting a CR-10. Thoughts?
Aug 6, 2017 9:24 AM - Toro1966: I like to print large things, and I don't like to glue stuff together any more than I have to.
Aug 6, 2017 9:24 AM - Toro1966: Saw the Gmax XT+ plus is it really that much better than the CR10 which is only 400?
Aug 6, 2017 9:25 AM - Toro1966: The Gmax is almost 3k.
Aug 6, 2017 9:55 AM - Geof: Hey tori.
Aug 6, 2017 9:56 AM - Geof: Cr10 is a decent CHEAP machine. But it is cheap. Could use some China knocked out of it. Now
Aug 6, 2017 9:56 AM - Geof: I had tons of issues with my gmax but after sorting it out it is a tank of a machine
Aug 6, 2017 9:57 AM - Geof: There is a reason for massive price difference. Though I do think the gmax brand is far overpriced at this stage of 3dp
Aug 6, 2017 9:59 AM - Geof: If your gonna print pla and ok with fixing or tweaking some things the cr10 is fine, just cheap parts and not a very strong heatbed, not capable of reaching high temps
Aug 6, 2017 10:00 AM - Geof: That said the gmax is considerably larger build plate then the cr10, I ordered the 500.00 heatbed which is quite capable and paid extra for the e3dv6 option
Aug 6, 2017 10:00 AM - Geof: (So gmax is more like 3500.00 when I bought mine)
Aug 6, 2017 11:00 AM - Toro1966: I do print mostly with PLA but they also now have bigger build volume versions of the CR10. even at 999 you get 500x500x500
Aug 6, 2017 11:01 AM - Toro1966: What tweaks did you have to do with the CR10? I ask because the Robo is printing great, but was anything but plug and play and I have learned a lot from you guys over the last year. Just wondering if the price difference between the CR10 and Gmax is warranted. Also, how do they compare to the N2+
Aug 6, 2017 11:29 AM - Geof: I despise the n2 for using 2013 dual extrusion method. Its more problem than anything IMO. The cr10 needs extruder calibrated, new glass, wire management, bed insulator (cork and hvac tape). Its a fine machine for the money, just cheap. A melzi boaed that is not flashable. No autolevel, old marlin
Aug 6, 2017 11:30 AM - Geof: The gmax is a well constructed machine mine was just assembled poorly IMO. It is far more robust. New firmware euns current marlin. Autilevel via bltouch
Aug 6, 2017 11:31 AM - Geof: Both are good machines. Just the gmax has better componenets but alot more money.
Aug 6, 2017 11:35 AM - Toro1966: Thansk Geof. Really giving this some thought. If I got the N2+ I would probably only get single extruder. Still debating. With the CR10 and the Gmax - can I swap filament colors like I currently do with the LCD or with PRUSA's Colorprint website?
Aug 6, 2017 11:35 AM - Toro1966: Also - any coupons you know of for the Gmax
Aug 6, 2017 11:36 AM - OutsourcedGuru: @KRGraphicsCG Nicely done.
Aug 6, 2017 12:09 PM - Geof: Yes to the colorchange. Gcreate doesnt do coupons lol
Aug 6, 2017 12:13 PM - Toro1966: Lol - I only asked because they ask for them at checkout. Gotta love it. Probably going to wait until black friday and see what kind of deals we might see.
Aug 6, 2017 12:14 PM - Toro1966: How about the FT5? Any experience with that one?
Aug 6, 2017 12:37 PM - Geof: Might be a good idea. I'll try to gather up some pictures of both machines and send your way. No experience with ft5. Seems over complicated for no reason lol
Aug 6, 2017 12:38 PM - Geof: I think Chris has one
Aug 6, 2017 1:24 PM - Toro1966: Thanks Geof! I have the itch!